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post Dec 29 2011, 09:26 PM

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A good actor is when the also have good roles/carry a movie before, during & after Bond.


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post Oct 15 2012, 09:54 AM

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yup, pretty much hope to return to some parts of the original 'bond'

i'm sure skyfall will need to return back to the some suave swagger of "Casino Royale" after the little dull "Quantum Of Solace".

Not sure if the sexual innuendo's will be back.. or at least the beginning of the movie intro/theme. cool2.gif
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post Oct 15 2012, 10:41 AM

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Pretty much a excellent villain we can expect in Javier Bardem (Raoul Silva). if he is any chilling portrayal as anton chigurh (NCFOM), if not better.

looks like reviews are very good. looking fwd to watching an timeless old friend cool2.gif



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post Oct 18 2012, 04:35 PM

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i'm not so sure of the adele's 'skyfall' track. no doubt she has excellent voice.

somehow it lacks the punch to be memorable.


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post Oct 26 2012, 11:22 AM

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Psychologist: I'm going to say a word, and I want you to say the first word that comes into your head. Country?
James Bond: England.

Psychologist: Gun?
James Bond: Shot.

Psychologist: Agent?
James Bond: Provocateur.

Psychologist: Murder?
James Bond: Employment.

Psychologist: Skyfall?

Psychologist: Skyfall?
Koolspyda: Done.

(caught it at yesterday preview) biggrin.gif






Skyfall is excellent, storywise. With Sam Mendes at the helm, you'll see Bond like you never seen before. As in the movie synopsis, Bond's loyalty to M was tested.
The whole MI6 was caught flat footed when they didn't know or understand the enemy. Javier Bardem (Raoul Silva) was excellent. Though i guess to many peoples opinion maybe not equal heath ledger posthumous oscar performance, or maybe unfair to judge simply because TDK came first. Still, taking that aside, Bardem was still excellent. Notable mention too that has been her best 'M' portrayal to date is Judi Drench. Outstanding female cast, well i won't say the other female cast were just mere eye candy but little bite compared to Judi's role. Take nothing away of Berenice Marlohe (Severine), Naomie Harris (Eve) performances, 'M' is female lead!


Some traditional stuff associated with Bond movies are implied, not in your face. There were of some return of familiar Bond's props, the iconic Aston Martin DB5 (ejector button is still there. seen, not used cool2.gif), Bond's favourite walther PPK/S. Macallan 12 (or 18?) Year Single Malt Scotch Whisky, and Bond says "a waste of a fine scotch" or something like that. cool2.gif The familiar surreal sexy movie intro, little muted on the sexiness but miles better then QOS & CR's. The Aston Martin DB5, oh i did i not mention already? The DB5 gets to strut her blazing guns. thumbup.gif

The new Q (Ben Whishaw), gets more airtime then any previous Q. We'll also see some familiar old faces will pass on, probably new ones will continue their mettle in the next Bond instalments, so a few surprises to be revealed.




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Happy 50th anniversary, Bond!

Long live bond, James Bond cool2.gif

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ps. Only the very best Bonds (actor) got to drive the DB5 in Bond movies. Can you name them all? cool2.gif

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post Oct 29 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 29 2012, 01:56 PM)
haha agree with you, i have never seen older bond movie but compare pierce and craig, i will pick pierce, as a spy u need to blend in, looks normal, handsome is ok, but craig look like a bad ass assassin those type will get thoroughly scan at custom  tongue.gif
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i think someone (not sure if its in LYN) has mentioned before, a face like Bronson will 'stand' out more (good looking). but someone like craig would blend in better as a real spy (as some even called him un'JB looking)

i liked pierce too but i've have to agree, with the current reality theme's, craig is totally spot on as 'the' james bond. Taking noting away from sean & the rest, they were good for their periods.

I suspect the younger chums might not take to this new 'skyfall' movie as well as slick 'casino royale'.



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post Oct 30 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(masterelr @ Oct 30 2012, 07:25 AM)
I've never been a Bond fan (only watched the last four or five Bond movies) but the action scenes never fail to wow me. Judging by the trailer, looks like I'm gonna have a blast watching this. I just hope there's enough to keep someone like me occupied.
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double O seven = Craig owns the moment cool2.gif


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post Oct 30 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(thesaufi @ Oct 30 2012, 12:54 PM)
yeah i guess there are 2 mentalities to watching bond. the newer fans might want to go for realism but the original bond up until pierce brosnans last film is all about escapism, a mans fantasies of being a spy, not really about being a spy. i mean, what kind of spy would everyone villain in the world knows about, and gladly telling people his real name, "Bond, James Bond".
the success of the bourne series prompted the producers to go younger, more direct, and brutal with craig and the bruising action scenes and camerawork. while lifelong fans of bond had no real sense of escapism.
while Casino Royale is a very fine movie when judged by today action movies standard, comparing it with older bond movies since the times of Sean Roger and Pierce feels like an awkward shift. anyway i would still go watch Skyfall just out of sheer fandom of James Bond.

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well, there are tons of people who felt the bourne series came out (or other pretenders), not only were seem more brutal in the actions (realism) hence probably the pressure to the owners of 'bond' (EON productions & Broccoli). Skyfall continues from same type of what if "real world scenarios" like CR & QOS but in terms of story, it has a lot more bite. Here we too see more glimpse into bond's past &..
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post Oct 31 2012, 09:41 AM

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The romp part in Skyfall..

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beautiful Berenice Marlohe
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Didn't pass ours censors. I suspect in the same reins as his expose in girl with dragon tattoo
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post Oct 31 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Oct 31 2012, 11:23 AM)
Who said that scene was for Skyfall - - it isn't. It is the same actress in another movie/TV show.
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the 2nd link (Marlohe in black) was just how pretty she. It was wasnt the reference of skyfall (since it was censored & not real link of THAT scene). THE reference of the censored was the above spoiler/description cool2.gif

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post Nov 1 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(reehdus @ Nov 1 2012, 05:58 PM)
The red wig scene is not from Skyfall
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Skyfall beauty Berenice Marlohe has revealed that she had to coax Craig to remove his garments for a sex scene between the pair.


The stunning actress said: 'He was very shy and when he saw me entering the shower he was like, "Oh my God."

'He tried to keep his underpants on for the shower scenes but I said, "No, come on, don't be shy. I will do anything to make you feel comfortable."'
While Marlohe was kind to the shy actor during their love scene, she made sure he knew that she wouldn't be happy being the victim of one of his pranks.

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post Nov 2 2012, 01:08 AM

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Casino Royale had finesse (in eva green) lead lady much like Heath ledger influence to Dark Knight.

agree on the better continuation if this skyfall had follow after CR. QOS was weaker of the three.

still its worth to know what lies ahead, future's bright for Bond.

movie's dialogue is great

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QUOTE(ElaineChewMeow @ Nov 2 2012, 10:15 AM)
am i the only one feel boring all along the movie?
too many scripts instead of actions IMO.
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It not exactly Christmas (for those who wanted gadgets, gadgets etc)



but the whole movie as a package fills one's senses when it comes to dialogue, when we discover the (full) origins of bond, never had any previous bond other then a mere mention did we develop a bond with the character by discovering his roots. smile.gif cool2.gif





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"What makes you think this is my First time"
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tasty Bérénice Marlohe cool2.gif
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Nov 2 2012, 11:47 AM)
"Casino Royale" was bad? No way... the second one "Quantum of Solace" was quite underwhelming and was a little lost (oil? or was it water). Daniel Craig made Pierce Brosnan look like a softy. Ball scratcher torture scene, come on, what a pain that was to watch and Brosnan would probably start crying in an instant after the first 'hit'.

I am quite confident "Skyfall" will be a notch better than QoS but since I haven't seen it, it would be a mighty achievement if it was better than the "Casino Royale". Watching it tonight. Haven't read a single review entirely, all I know it is pretty good... can't wait to see Javier Bardem in a villain role again.
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I been seeing comments by some other lads & gals on other forums that they find Skyfall humour is dry rolleyes.gif & tooo much talking, not enough of 'action', story to them is prediCtable shakehead.gif
on that score i might suggest to them transformers 1-4, later 5, Avatar kinda movies etc




Stig doing some driving on behalf the actors
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post Nov 5 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Claire Farron @ Nov 4 2012, 10:02 PM)
Quite a let down for me, first half of the film was incredible and I was ready to give it a 10/10, but after Silva was captured and they got back to London it just turned into a snoozefest for me. Got cheered up a bit when the DB5 appeared and Bond mentioned about the ejector seat, but that whole sequence at Bond's childhood home was really boring.

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And I don't get what's all the craze with Javier Bardem's performance. IMO he looks like a pretty weak villain. Daniel Craig's performance in this film is way better than him imo.

Overall 7/10. Casino Royale still remains as the best modern Bond film for me. Skyfall isn't even close on being on the same level as Casino Royale.

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on that score, i agree javier was scarier in "No country for old men", but nonetheless i feel he wasn't accorded enough time (alone) to display his sinister motives.


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post Nov 5 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Nov 5 2012, 04:19 PM)
I agree i love cars and the women in Bond. But with M being the core if the story, it may explain why they chose to minimize other female characters in the film. Especially when they were trying to make a strong case of M being the most important woman in Bond's life. And with the introduction of new characters like Monepenny, the new M and Q, there's very little screen time for anything else.
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As i mentioned earlier the female lead is M. tongue.gif


CR had lots of Eva green, was quite an eye candy too. maybe thats why people are clamouring for the tidy bit part of Bérénice Marlohe tongue.gif cool2.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Nov 6 2012, 12:53 PM)
I think the sense of drama is well executed and needed. Unlike before, the structure of the series have changed in that there's continuity in Craig's Bond and plots.

CR and QoS may be different in style, but in terms of plot it was one long continuing story. In CR, Bond was operating within his comfort zone so in terms of the traditional Bond-like movie, it was the series closest resembling to old Bond films. Bond was in control, doing things we expect him to do, until he got burned by Vesper. At the end, you knew he was going to go apeshit.

In QoS, Bond's state of mind was in a mess. He was grieving, conflicted yet driven by more than his sense of duty. Here the pace and intensity of the film increased and the fast cutting editing mirrored it. Bond's recklessness takes on a whole new level, and M began to question whether or not Bond can be controlled. This fleeting moment of doubt from M will come back in force later in Skyfall. At the end of QoS, you get the idea that Bond was mellowing out after getting some closure. The strong drama and somber mood of the closing scene will set the tone of the next film.

Skyfall is like a breakdown after a relentless chorus in a song. It is slow and deliberate, almost to the point of depressing. The main story breaks away from Quantum but the film explores the issue of loyalty which QoS had subtly touched. There's not much of espionage because the danger is too close to home. A drama is fitting because the issue of loyalty and the paranoia of insecurity is normally a psychological one. Besides the climax between Bond and M, the introduction of new characters are also brilliant dramatized by Mendes.

Should the pattern continues, the end of Skyfall should sets up the tone for the next film. If this is the case, i don't think Mendes will direct the next Bond movie. Bond looks angry but equally excited, i think a more explosive and action oriented film is forthcoming. So for this reason, i won't be surprised if Nolan gets the nod - tho he won't be my first choice. But with Skyfall already in course to becoming the highest grossing Bond film, the man in suits will be tempted to use Nolan given his status as among one of most bankable directors of his generation.
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since we are on nolan. i share QuickFire's assessment on why nolan is not right for bond. he hasn't quite grasp 'action' yet, every other part of his direction-led movies are not bad. and beside the mountain scene in inception, the TDKR excitement plateaued when bruce got out from lazarus pit. tongue.gif

In my FB timeline, i've seen many different views on Skyfall. long time fans liked it, those that knew bond from dalton onwards, mostly hated it.

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Nov 6 2012, 09:54 PM)
Nolan along with his brother Jonathan can be a terrific writer, but the more I see his films the more I feel he just isn't good enough as a complete package director. His visual grasp is weak, arguably the most important aspect of a director's abilities. Mendes isn't an action director too- in terms of sheer fun and excitement I think the setpieces in Skyfall don't nearly reach the level of CR (who can forget the opening chase in Africa and then the airport sequence?), but he knows how to frame shots and piece scenes together with visual coherence and splendour, something Nolan is clearly lacking. And when you team up with one of the best cinematographers working today, you get action scenes with stunning backdrops. The blue neon background of the skyscraper in China. The glowing red Macau casino. The picturesque Scotland mountainside. The intense burning cottage in the final showoff, never far off the frame. You can't deny the action in Skyfall has arguably the best images in all of Bond films. I also love the shot of Bond walking from the dark hotel corridors into the bright, dusty streets of Istanbul. And that long introductory shot of Silva.
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nicely said. pretty much as most of us who seen it & loved it.

So far the haters (from my FB timeline/some places have been saying the story is weak, plot story is thin, bond girl died too fast, no elaborate car chase, no gadgets, bond not handsome. villain not fierce/scary,.. tongue.gif
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Mixture from what I read but I think those who enjoy good verbal banter. This 007 spectre should be excellent.

Probably lesser actions?

I will watch but I need to phased out the opening theme song tongue.gif
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Still a great Bond Movie. Ties up CR, QOS, SF...

Try not to compare between them 😎😎.
If you do, it might (just) leave you with the ambivalent experience.

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The Aston Martin DB10 in it is awesome

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