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post Nov 6 2008, 12:53 AM, updated 17y ago

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VERSION 2.0 - Continue from http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/783556

In view of the tremendous support we have been receiving for our Gainward VGA cards, esp. our Golden Sample models, this thread is started to cater for all Gainward users (both ATI and NVidia) and interested parties.

We will update all the latest news & reviews, products launch, answer your queries, provide support and give lots of goodies + freebies away.

Please do NOT ask us to quote price or COD, we do NOT sell to end users, only dealers.

Gainward cards are available from:

Low Yat Plaza: PC Zone, ATE, Thunder Match, Wawasan and more soon...

Digital Mall PJ: My Computer System, Wawasan IT, Octavo and more soon...

LYN resellers: Moderno, CEX, LingLoong and Leh Teck

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GAINWARD CLUB BENEFITS

1. Membership Reward Prizes - see below.

2. Cheap Games @ RM39 - see below.

3. Discounted Latest Games - see below.

4. Premiums for Club Members like Gainward T-Shirts, Caps, Mouse Pads etc. icon_idea.gif

5. Hot Sexy Models Pics: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/783556/+720 drool.gif

6. Free Gainward EXPERToolâ„¢ 4.0 for 4850 and 4870: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/779908 flex.gif


NOV 2008 HOT PROMOTION

Free 3DMark Vantage Advance Edition worth RM80 with every purchase of Gainward NVidia 9600, 9800 & GTX series.

What is 3DMark Vantage? http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmar...e/introduction/

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We would like to thank all Gainward buyers and users for making us a phenomenal success! notworthy.gif


Greeting from Gainward new distro:

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post Nov 6 2008, 12:55 AM

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1st to report again rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Nice to have V2

How to get the discounted games?

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post Nov 6 2008, 12:59 AM

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Games for all Gainward ATI & NV users @ RM39 only: drool.gif

Full Retail Packs

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More hot titles coming.

How to buy:

1. Come to our office: http://www.netraid.com.my/contact_1.htm

2. For outstation users, please PM us and we will arrange courier to you.

3. Please bring along receipt, box, driver CD etc. to show that you are a Gainward user (any models).


CHEAP GAMES FOR GAINWARD USERS

Please take note that we will give discount vouchers for new games like Prince of Persia 3, EndWar, Call of Duty 5 and Far Cry 2 for all Gainward users who bought their cards here. Just be reasonable, don't expect RM39 for new games.

The discount vouchers will be inside Gainward box. We will email the discount vouchers with serial numbers to existing users who want to buy these new games.

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Also please don't ask us discounts for superhot games like Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. We know these titles will NOT be released anytime soon (think maybe in another year or more). So let's not talk about them now.

This program has been postponed indefinitely until further notice. We are very sorry. notworthy.gif

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hurray rclxm9.gif 2nd one to report in V2

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post Nov 6 2008, 01:02 AM

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MEMBERSHIP REWARD WINNERS:

Hot Prizes: drool.gif
1. Digisound MP3 or MP4 Player with Megabass Earphone (Default Prize)
2. JVC HA-F10 Hi-Fidelity Earphone with Holder
3. Secret Jackpot Prize


Winners on 13-Sep-2008
1. Lolhalol - most helpful
2. Lacus - most helpful
3. hilmiangah - proud & helpful Gainward NVidia owner

Winners on 23-Sep-2008 to 30-Sep-2008
1. Celciuz - for being helpful despite having a problems himself rclxms.gif
2. Jepertine90 - for your enthusiasm on Gainward 4670 despite not even launch then
3. Pikacu - giving accurate info & good help
4. Picksickrick - being helpful
5. Viperiii - being helpful
6. Leh Teck - for the "inspiring" pics. brows.gif
7. Hahn87 - for sharing superb pics of his awesome rig
8. Dark Steno - for really testing his card, and buying many games on offer.
9. Lacus - being consistently helpful, won again - Panasonic 8X DVDR 10pcs pack

Winners on 1-Oct-2008 to 15-Oct-2008
1. Aric_68 - for sharing ur gc temp/pics & helping
2. Nujo87 - for sharing ur OC experience
3. Owikh84 - bold move from Powercolor to Gainward & helping others. thumbup.gif
4. Celciuz - constant helping last 10 pages, won again
5. DaTUK_SErI - very nice & clear pics
6. Serigala - for being a showoff, hehe... nolar, for the excellent details of your rig setup. rclxms.gif
7. Desmond1310 - for curing poison, & helping. tongue.gif
8. Kar Hoe - for blogging about Gainward.

CONGRATS to the winners and please PM us for details on how to collect your prizes. rclxms.gif

To others, thank you for sharing and helping here. Since this is a ONGOING program, please keep posting and who knows, you might be the next winner soon. Remember, there is NO limit, past winners can win again! drool.gif

Membership Reward is different from Gainward premiums such as t-shirts, mouse pads, caps and etc. Due to our recent merger and restructuring, this program will only commence again after mid Nov.

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u do know right
u have to close the previous thread to open new one..

the hardware forum thread is not a membership or corporate sponsor program...

thats y they have the dealer thread...

also any sales question should not be conducted here.. aka pricing etc...



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post Nov 6 2008, 01:27 AM

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ANNOUNCEMENTS

WE HAVE MOVED - NETRAID NEW ADDRESS

To all valued dealers, customers and friends,

Please take note that effective 1st November, 2008, our new office will be located in the address below:

NETRAID SDN BHD
2nd Floor, Kompleks Penchala,
No.50 Jalan Penchala, Seksyen 51
46050 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia.

TEL: 603-77812987
FAX: 603-77813877


All handphone numbers will remain the same.

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PS. We share the same building with Scanart Data System (distro of Abit, Galaxy, GeCube, Fuji Xerox, CNet, Asus and etc) and SDS Distribution (distro of Gigabyte, Sunbeam, Tuniq, Deepcool).

NETRAID PART OF SCANART GROUP EFFECTIVE 1ST NOVEMBER 2008

We are pleased to announce that SCANART DATA SYSTEM (M) SDN BHD, the distributor for Abit, Galaxy, GeCube, Fuji Xerox, CNet, Panasonic, Asus and etc has bought over NETRAID SDN BHD effective 1st November, 2008. Scanart also owns SDS Distribution (distro of Gigabyte, Sunbeam, Tuniq, Deepcool).

Therefore all products (Gainward, Albatron, Digisound, JVC & InfoSmart) distributed by NETRAID SDN BHD will be taken over by SCANART DATA SYSTEM (M) SDN BHD effective 1st November, 2008.

All warranty claim and RMA will be handled and serviced by Scanart Technical Department with nationwide branches and service centers. Please call 03-7782 4700 for more information or assistance.

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rclxm9.gif congratulations on V2 of this club..can't wait to join gainward...might go work part time a while...hopefully i'm still able to get reference card by then sweat.gif or not i might have to change to 2 units of 4850GS brows.gif
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HOT LAUNCH - AVAILABLE NOW!!

Here it is guys, the FASTEST VGA in the world: Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell thumbup.gif rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif drool.gif

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For more info, check out the awesome presentations below (click on the links):

Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell details

Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell - Fastest VGA in the world!


Available from our dealers nationwide (see below):

Low Yat Plaza: PC Zone, ATE, Thunder Match, Wawasan and more soon...

Digital Mall PJ: My Computer System, Wawasan IT, Octavo and more soon...

LYN resellers: Moderno, CEX, LingLoong and Leh Teck

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Welcome Scanart rclxms.gif

Seem like the RM39 games still available.
And we can still spam in this new thread tongue.gif

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rm39 games are what titles?

btw, the discount vouchers can use to buy games where?
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QUOTE(nujo87 @ Nov 6 2008, 02:13 AM)
Welcome Scanart rclxms.gif

Seem like the RM39 games still available.
And we can still spam in this new thread tongue.gif
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spam and I clean up laugh.gif


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eh, can palit user/dealer buy your games laugh.gif
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To prevent repeated questions, please SEARCH this huge thread first (3340 posts, 168 pages): http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/783556

Also see all the links in the signature below:


Please check/search the thread above first BEFORE asking what PSU to use, how fast, how cool, what temp etc? Thanks. notworthy.gif

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Yeah wonder too,if Palit applicable..Since Palit is Parent Company of Gainward whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2008, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Nov 6 2008, 02:23 AM)
spam and I clean up laugh.gif
@scanart
eh, can palit user/dealer buy your games laugh.gif
Sorry guys, NO. Because Palit is NOT Gainward. shakehead.gif And all the marketing planning, funds and support is for Gainward only! Even Palit don't give Free 3DMark Vantage.

So ONLY Gainward. But no need to buy Gainward because of the free gifts, cheap games, free software etc. Buy Gainward because it's the BEST! thumbup.gif See the comparison links in Netraid post earlier. icon_idea.gif
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rclxms.gif Congratulation and finally the v2 has be created, interest to buy the Ghost Recon game with the cheap price. BTW, who should i contact with, still the same person that mention in NetRaid thread?
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QUOTE(Siu_Keong @ Nov 6 2008, 02:59 AM)
rclxms.gif Congratulation and finally the v2 has be created, interest to buy the Ghost Recon game with the cheap price. BTW, who should i contact with, still the same person that mention in NetRaid thread?
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I also want to know. Since they said they'll email to the Gainward user.
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 6 2008, 02:49 AM)
Sorry guys, NO. Because Palit is NOT Gainward.  shakehead.gif And all the marketing planning, funds and support is for Gainward only! Even Palit don't give Free 3DMark Vantage.

So ONLY Gainward. But no need to buy Gainward because of the free gifts, cheap games, free software etc. Buy Gainward because it's the BEST!  thumbup.gif  See the comparison links in Netraid post earlier.  icon_idea.gif
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TS really doesnt understand what bryan just asked...
tsk tsk tsk.. very bad product knowledge..

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V2 already, congratulations!

Any news on the 4850x2? Or maybe 4870x2 GS since Palit already has one, so a Golden Sample should be appearing soon?
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woot..v2...
well..lets make it to v3 then..
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congrate V2 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

i had bought a silverstone ST52F from my fren and now run very smoothly.
cant wait for farcry2, crysis etc....no time for so many games yet, now onli test power on FIFA09
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I thought Palit is a parent company of Gainward right?ah nvm..
Palit has almost the same design as the Gainward
Sonic = Golden Sample
Gratz anyway,i think price update = rise..1 USD 3.6 edy...
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 6 2008, 11:13 AM)
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I thought Palit is a parent company of Gainward right?ah nvm..
Palit has almost the same design as the Gainward
Sonic = Golden Sample
Gratz anyway,i think price update = rise..1 USD 3.6 edy...
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palit sonic not as same as GS...
saw it myself...sonic uglier and look cheap... nod.gif
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can a st56f full load a 4850x 2? =(
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 6 2008, 11:29 AM)
palit sonic not as same as GS...
saw it myself...sonic uglier and look cheap... nod.gif
Foxconn & Universal (ABit parent company) makes mobo for Asus, Gigabyte, IBM, Dell and so so many brands? But are they Asus? Are they Gigabyte?

Guys, please read the thread properly lar before asking those same questions again and again. Read slowly first page.

How to buy cheap games:

1. Come to our office: http://www.netraid.com.my/contact_1.htm

2. For outstation users, please PM us and we will arrange courier to you.

3. Please bring along receipt, box, driver CD etc. to show that you are a Gainward user (any models).

Discounted games vouchers will NOT be available till end Nov. This is also said on the first page.


Few links on Gainward vs others:

http://www.netraid.com.my/Custom-HD4850-comparison.pdf

http://www.netraid.com.my/Gainward-4850-Go...-4850-Toxic.pdf

More links on the first page in NETRAID post (see signature).

Thanks all.

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just a questions, how do you intend to send the discount vouchers to existing users?

i mean i bought the card like 3-4 months ago.. tongue.gif

and i wanna buy the newer games like PrinceofPersia...

miraculously the new office is near my house...hahaha
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Tried called TEL: 603-77812987 now ...... no answer for 3 times :S

Lunch time maybe ?

Jsut want to know, is there any stock right now for 4850GS? According to the map (I stay behind Asia Jaya LRT ^^V), can i go to you by tonight ?
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 6 2008, 11:29 AM)
palit sonic not as same as GS...
saw it myself...sonic uglier and look cheap... nod.gif
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Yes,they may look uglier.
But lets compare
the HD 4870 GS = Dual Fan
Palit Sonic = Dual Fan
Has Turbo Mode
Just slightly diffrent..
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lol still no 4870x2 GS, can only dream
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Congrats for V2 rclxms.gif

Wah, now after the NetRaid has moved, its quite far from my place edi... hmm.gif

but nvm, congrats for new office le thumbup.gif
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It Seem Scanart has branches at other places too like penang, Ipoh etc.(i myself at ipoh tongue.gif )

so will gainward product available at ipoh now?Or still only available at KL area?
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if im not mistaken, netraid once said that, newer game discount coupon will be in the gainward box for november...
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Aiyoh guys, pleeeeeeease lar... READ THE FIRST PAGE SLOWLY. All the answers are in the first page. doh.gif

For the common question:

The discount vouchers will be inside Gainward box. We will email the discount vouchers with serial numbers to existing users who want to buy these new games. We also said "Due to our recent merger and restructuring, this program will only commence near end Nov." So please don't ask now.

Also, we do NOT sell to any end users. Read the first page for dealers lists and contacts. All new models should be here next week.

For those wanting to buy RM39 games, just call Kenneth 016-3358337 for the time being. He will process your order. Read the first page for detail instructions.


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helo guys... i am new to the forum here. and i would like to buy new vga card which is around RM300-500 either ATI or Nvidia for my cc. any recommendation is very much apprieciated,... ty

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QUOTE(dichoz @ Nov 6 2008, 04:46 PM)
helo guys... i am new to the forum here. and i would like to buy new vga card which is around RM300-500 either ATI or Nvidia for my cc. any recommendation is very much apprieciated,... ty
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HD4830 or 9800GT
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bro dichoz...this is not recommendation thread...please read up.. smile.gif

but then again, if around that price just get 4830 later...now price quite expensive... smile.gif

if tak tahan can get 4670 now also smile.gif
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Get 4850 better
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Charles dupe account ! haha, anyway, there's a new challenger...

Triple slot 4870

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When will Gainward steal the idea from their main division and come out with a triple slot cooler GC rclxms.gif
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man is posted by pikachu b4! and resize ur image please!
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tat one is hd4870x2 laugh.gif

anyway, read up guys, gainward is going to get spotlight rclxms.gif

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...10321&Itemid=34
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if that gonna be Golden sample x2..count i'm in..i want 1..
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serigala very rich sia... so many gc u get le!
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not rich lol..
now only have 4 gc..2 low end and 2 high end...
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4870X2 GOLDEN SAMPLE !!!!11satusatu rclxm9.gif


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sos : http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.p...212#post1049212

I knew gainward will release golden sample once palit done with their custom pcb design brows.gif
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Damn it. 4870x2 too tempting.

Gainward HD 4870 X2 Golden Sample

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Right after Palit, Gainward has also released HD 4870 X2 Golden Sample. Because Gainward now is a part of Palit, so the card is the same with Revolution 700 Deluxe, having a jumbo three slot cooler. Within the cooler there are four heatpipes and two PWM fans. Other than two RV770XT GPUs, the card also utilized with 2GB GDDR5 memory.

The card runs at 750/950MHz(Core/memory), only slightly uplocked the GDDR5 memory a bit, leaving some overclock headroom for users. Now no words on price and release date yet.

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where is serigala? laugh.gif

she/he will be jumping madnessly when see this laugh.gif
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damn..i'm gonna get 1..
seller..do take note plz..if available do inform me so i can arrange the payment..especially lehtek..i will be your loyal customer..

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Wow..its going to use up 3 slots? Looks nice though.
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 6 2008, 08:37 PM)
where is serigala? laugh.gif

she/he will be jumping madnessly when see this laugh.gif
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i'm already are..was waiting everyday for this kinda news..
asus top edition is a no no for me..
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Wah! Expected it once I see the Palit one tongue.gif.

Mean looking card! Cool color scheme! Prefer this one than Palit's tongue.gif
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but i do hope the cooler gold,silver or nickel plated..gold much better..24k gold^^gonna cost extra Rm50 to send it to be plated..

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where is 4850X2 GS??? T_T

maybe it's me but somehow i'd rather have 4850X2 than 4870X2
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 6 2008, 08:54 PM)
Wah! Expected it once I see the Palit one tongue.gif.

Mean looking card! Cool color scheme! Prefer this one than Palit's tongue.gif
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geee this card with either the rampage 2 extreme and rampage extreme should produce interesting result...

count me in...

no need to be hold etc...


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where is 4850X2 GS??? T_T

maybe it's me but somehow i'd rather have 4850X2 than 4870X2
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ah .. obviously u didnt think all the way with that statement


take it like this if the crossfire doesnt work.. u end with with a card of a performance comparable to a 9800gtx

but with the 4870x2 worse case scenario is a card comparable to a GTx260
its a win win situation.


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geee this card with either the rampage 2 extreme and rampage extreme should produce interesting result...

count me in...

no need to be hold etc...


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ah .. obviously u didnt think all the way with that statement
take it like this if the crossfire doesnt work.. u end with with a card of a performance comparable to a 9800gtx

but with the 4870x2 worse case scenario is a card comparable to a GTx260
its a win win situation.
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I thought 4850x2 is direct competitor for GTX260?? hmm.gif
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as long crossfire is supported bro for that game
if its not... then it will HAHAHAHAH for that person..

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Wondering will this huge and hot card bottlenecked by 4.0Ghz E8400?
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Wondering will this huge and hot card bottlenecked by 4.0Ghz E8400?
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even Core 2 Extreme proc still can't show the maximum potential of 4870x2 laugh.gif
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even Core 2 Extreme proc still can't show the maximum potential of 4870x2 laugh.gif
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even Core 2 Extreme proc still can't show the maximum potential of 4870x2 laugh.gif
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hey guys regarding on my prev post which is:
most of the sources are saying dat the 1gb has less oc-ing potential den d 512mb...the core can reach 850 easily but the memory cant even surpasses 1020(without artifacts after testing),low mem oc potential
i havent reli tested it yet...any advices? and also...i cant return to 2d mode after oc-ing with rivatuner 2.11, it maintains on the oc-ed clock speed icon_question.gif
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hey guys regarding on my prev post which is: 
most of the sources are saying dat the 1gb has less oc-ing potential den d 512mb...the core can reach 850 easily but the memory cant even surpasses 1020(without artifacts after testing),low mem oc potential
i havent reli tested it yet...any advices? and also...i cant return to 2d mode after oc-ing with rivatuner 2.11, it maintains on the oc-ed clock speed icon_question.gif
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dude overclocking ati cards has a max gain limit....
the 1gb version even at 775 is faster...

give u a hint for u to scout around
the 1gb with c2d 4.5ghz ddr2 is around 17.2k 3dmark06.. thats at stock...500fsb+

the 512mb with c2d 4.6ghz ddr2 is around 16.6 k overclocked... 600fsb+ somemore

showed the bus clocks incase u think it was the mem
and it will get worst when u go higher reso...

all this with virtual mem disable and totally loaded unto mem.

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Sorry noob question.. how to know if the processor is bottlenecking the graphic card?

I'm still using C2D E6600 2.4GHz OCed @ 3.4GHz.. was wondering if it will bottleneck 4870x2 if i plan to upgrade to it in future.
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QUOTE(Archaven @ Nov 7 2008, 06:17 PM)
Sorry noob question.. how to know if the processor is bottlenecking the graphic card?

I'm still using C2D E6600 2.4GHz OCed @ 3.4GHz.. was wondering if it will bottleneck 4870x2 if i plan to upgrade to it in future.
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before u look at cpu bottleneck u should look at mem bolleneck..

do some everest ram bandwidth...
having 9-10k for ddr2 would be optimum...
most games nowadays are loading a load of textures to ure rams and then will be loaded off to GC mems.
reason for this i guess would be three things

its definately faster way of prefetching textures...
second with the gurrent GC market .. only a few cards are having 1gbs.
and the dependencies on cpu speeds would be on the physx reasons rather than textures aka the things blowing up etc..
nvidia has a point here..
but with the current i7 with insane mem controller and godlike speed...
was kindda happy that intel didnt end up with the parth of pentium 4... keep increaing the multiplier and bus.
but it would have been great if the ended the core 2 duo era with a 1600bus on every proc rather than 1333 other than the qx9770.



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well whats the mem speed ure running at??
and how much mem...
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u try clocking with everest benchies..
every increase u get in everest will lead to ure gpu increase.

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i dn know how to oc or wad la adui... i buy 4870gs also see people song song all buy then i buy de lol.. after i buy i still play dota hahaha
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tellmewhy ... seriously too rich... hehehe

6000+stock with 4870gs will bottleneck meh? gc or processor?

i'm using 6000+ stock with 4850 ... wont bottleneck gua
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6000+ is the bottleneck
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Damn it. 4870x2 too tempting.

Gainward HD 4870 X2 Golden Sample

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Right after Palit, Gainward has also released HD 4870 X2 Golden Sample. Because Gainward now is a part of Palit, so the card is the same with  Revolution 700 Deluxe, having a jumbo three slot cooler. Within the cooler there are four heatpipes and two PWM fans. Other than two RV770XT GPUs, the card also utilized with 2GB GDDR5 memory.

The card runs at 750/950MHz(Core/memory), only slightly uplocked the GDDR5 memory a bit, leaving some overclock headroom for users. Now no words on price and release date yet.

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There will 2 models: 4870X Rampage GS and 4870X2 Rampage GS Goes Like Hell (with a further overclocked core and extras!). drool.gif

Details coming soon...
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6000+ is the bottleneck
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The names of the 4870 fits well with ASUS Rampage Formula users biggrin.gif
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There will 2 models: 4870X Rampage GS and 4870X2 Rampage GS Goes Like Hell (with a further overclocked core and extras!).  drool.gif

Details coming soon...
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QUOTE(picksickrick @ Nov 7 2008, 11:37 PM)
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tellmewhy ... seriously too rich... hehehe

6000+stock with 4870gs will bottleneck meh? gc or processor?

i'm using 6000+ stock with 4850 ... wont bottleneck gua
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i using vista 64 bit lu , crysis also lag... almost unplayable T.T
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all high , all medium , 1440x 900 , vantage now 5k liao ... -.-... nvm i sold this computer liao... after spm i go get e8400
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finally can find a review on fudz...
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not yet....need a few more weeks....
can u guys show me d speed u r running now with gs?TQ!!
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Hye guys, I wana ask something, if i connect HDMI cable from my LCD to my GPU, the image quality become better? in game ? or just in movie?
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HDMI image quality is the same as DVI quality.

if im not mistaken, the image is sharper , if compare DVI and VGA display input. but i don't think common people can spot the difference between dvi and vga..
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HDMI image quality is the same as DVI quality.

if im not mistaken, the image is sharper , if compare DVI and VGA display input. but i don't think common people can spot the difference between dvi and vga..
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 9 2008, 12:00 PM)
Hye guys, I wana ask something, if i connect HDMI cable from my LCD to my GPU, the image quality become better? in game ? or just in movie?
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Using HDMI the quality is the best, because it's uncompressed digital signal, DVI is same with HDMI, but too bad almost all the HD tv does not have DVI input
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Anyone can help me with this?
I am planning to get a HD4850 Golden Sample from Gainward but I need to clear some doubts before I buy it.

I am now using a stock PSU from Dell with power rating 305W max, powering T6300 Core2Duo 1.86Ghz proc with 2gb ram and 2 Hdds.
Currently using Nvidia 7300 LE and wanting to upgrade.

If I use HD4850 Golden sample, would my stock PSU able to handle the power consumption?
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Nov 9 2008, 12:58 PM)
Anyone can help me with this?
I am planning to get a HD4850 Golden Sample from Gainward but I need to clear some doubts before I buy it.

I am now using a stock PSU from Dell with power rating 305W max, powering T6300 Core2Duo 1.86Ghz proc with 2gb ram and 2 Hdds.
Currently using Nvidia 7300 LE and wanting to upgrade.

If I use HD4850 Golden sample, would my stock PSU able to handle the power consumption?
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U need at least 500w true power PSU for HD 4850
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Using HDMI the quality is the best, because it's uncompressed digital signal, DVI is same with HDMI, but too bad almost all the HD tv does not have DVI input
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dvi is better cause it doesnt have refresh rate limitation

very hdmi has...

on high fps very noticeable...
and even worse when u enable vsync for some reason.. although it was suppose to correct the issue above.

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U need at least 500w true power PSU for HD 4850
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500w truepower can fire up 4870 already..
atleast 400w true power PSU is need for ur setup to fire up HD4850..
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 9 2008, 01:39 PM)
500w truepower can fire up 4870 already..
atleast 400w true power PSU is need for ur setup to fire up HD4850..
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dont advice anybody to follow such advice

cause if u want to clock and maybe have one hdd...
this is the guy u will need to consult..


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Um, sorry, I don't quite understand...

I am not planning to overclock it anytime soon.
Just want to buy it for "futureproof" as I might upgrade my whole rig by the end of next year.

Currently not enough money to change everything yet, just the graphics.

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get a 620 watts with high efficiency

i recommend ppl to go single rail or dual rail max...

and u wouldnt be having any issue on a single card overclocked cpu rig for a long time...

psu's is one of the things that u wouldnt want to upgrade in the future.. including casing...


been using my st750 and da1200's for a long time...


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Ok, decided! I will get a new Thermaltake 450w True power PSU and 4850 GS...
This will cause me to go into 2 weeks of maggie mee or single meal per day diet program but should be worth it, lol.

But then will 4850 GS run smoothly on my E6300 proc and PCIE 1.0?
I saw somewhere that it won't bottleneck on E6300 and difference of PCIE 1.0 and 2.0 for 4850 GS would be around 4-5 frames per second, but I would like to know the opinions of the experts here.
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Ok, decided! I will get a new Thermaltake 450w True power PSU and 4850 GS...
This will cause me to go into 2 weeks of maggie mee or single meal per day diet program but should be worth it, lol.

But then will 4850 GS run smoothly on my E6300 proc and PCIE 1.0?
I saw somewhere that it won't bottleneck on E6300 and difference of PCIE 1.0 and 2.0 for 4850 GS would be around 4-5 frames per second, but I would like to know the opinions of the experts here.
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get faster mem...first... with low tRD's on a good mobo...
then only u can see real cpu scaling...

a lot of reviews out there.. sishh damn stupid on cpu scaling..

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CPU scaling? Sorry, not familiar with the term, still quite noob on comps rite now.

I plan to get 4gb ddr2 800mhz value memory maybe by end of this year. Should this suffice?

About mobo, I am totally out of ideas. Decent mobos with PCIE 2.0 costs RM500 and above is a bit too expensive for me, at least for this year.

Being a student with no income has its disadvantages =/
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rm500? u serious? haha...there are some good and cheaper mobos out there..
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Nov 9 2008, 02:49 PM)
Ok, decided! I will get a new Thermaltake 450w True power PSU and 4850 GS...
This will cause me to go into 2 weeks of maggie mee or single meal per day diet program but should be worth it, lol.

But then will 4850 GS run smoothly on my E6300 proc and PCIE 1.0?
I saw somewhere that it won't bottleneck on E6300 and difference of PCIE 1.0 and 2.0 for 4850 GS would be around 4-5 frames per second, but I would like to know the opinions of the experts here.
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oc ur proc to atleast 2.6.. icon_rolleyes.gif
pcie 1 still ok...the performance differ is negligible..only a bit..u are still good to go..
i'm not an expert^_^


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CPU scaling? Sorry, not familiar with the term, still quite noob on comps rite now.

I plan to get 4gb ddr2 800mhz value memory maybe by end of this year. Should this suffice?

About mobo, I am totally out of ideas. Decent mobos with PCIE 2.0 costs RM500 and above is a bit too expensive for me, at least for this year.

Being a student with no income has its disadvantages =/
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p45 mobo..u can get 1 at Rm440..
or if u are not planning to go CF..u can resort to p43 chipset..i think it is ok..

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oc ur proc to atleast 2.6.. icon_rolleyes.gif
pcie 1 still ok...the performance differ is negligible..only a bit..u are still good to go..
i'm not an expert^_^
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Well.....If u use stock E6300 will bottomneck..

Mine OC'ed to 2.7 Ghz.

COmpared To Stock I gained around 10-20 FPS in Games

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Just now, my sister went to Lowyat plaza to buy a 4850GS, but all of the shops have sold out.........man, what a bad luck.....
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Just now, my sister went to Lowyat plaza to buy a 4850GS, but all of the shops have sold out.........man, what a bad luck.....
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 9 2008, 03:41 PM)
Just now, my sister went to Lowyat plaza to buy a 4850GS, but all of the shops have sold out.........man, what a bad luck.....
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Did you try to ask at ATE?
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 9 2008, 03:41 PM)
Just now, my sister went to Lowyat plaza to buy a 4850GS, but all of the shops have sold out.........man, what a bad luck.....
Sorry to hear that. We already said many times 2 weeks ago that stock finished. Call Carlson 012-3118567 to locate your nearest Gainward dealers.

Anyway, all stock will be here by Tue/Wed next week, with the following new models:

1. Gainward 4650-1GB
2. Gainward 4670-1GB
3. Gainward 4850-1GB Golden Sample
4. Gainward 4870-1GB Golden Sample
5. Gainward 4870X2-2GB

By end Nov, we will have special 4830, 4870X2 Rampage GS and 4870X2 GS Goes Like Hell.

Great improvement reported for the latest batch of 4850 Golden Sample, idle around 35C-40C and load around 60C. Easily overclockable to extreme speed. See here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/783556/+3080

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I see, then this saturday or sunday, I shall ask my sis to go there again >.<. Btw, how much will the 4850GS 1GB cost?

Edit: err....u mean tuesday,11/11/2008 and wednesday,12/11/2008?

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 9 2008, 06:49 PM)
I see, then this saturday or sunday, I shall ask my sis to go there again >.<. Btw, how much will the 4850GS 1GB cost?

Edit: err....u mean tuesday,11/11/2008 and wednesday,12/11/2008?
Yes, either 11/11/2008 or 12/11/2008. Best you call Carlson 012-3118567 first to find out which dealers in Low Yat Plaza (or anywhere else) have stock.

Alternatively, check with the following online dealers after 12-11-2008:
Leh Teck, Moderno and CEX

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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 9 2008, 07:01 PM)
Yes, either 11/11/2008 or 12/11/2008. Best you call Carlson 012-3118567 first to find out which dealers in Low Yat Plaza (or anywhere else) have stock.

Alternatively, check with the following online dealers after 12-11-2008:
Leh Teck, Moderno and CEX
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 9 2008, 06:42 PM)

By end Nov, we will have special 4830, 4870X2 Rampage GS and 4870X2 GS Goes Like Hell.

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i want it..i want it..possible price for GLH?
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4850GS 1gb and 4850GS 512mb which one better and what's the diff other than the 512mb diff.

gaming wise which one better?
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4850GS 1gb and 4850GS 512mb which one better and what's the diff other than the 512mb diff.

gaming wise which one better?
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Hmm......well, I prefer to buy on the spot rather than online. Apparently, a new power supply is a must for the 4850GS. Since the card is out of stock, I asked my sister to go around the shops in the plaza to find a good & cheap power supply. From this forum, Silverstone ST50F attracts my attention as it only costs RM259-260. But to my surprise, my sister informed me that only one shop sell that particular model and it costs RM299. So, anyone know other brand of power supply that can support 4850gs and does not exceed my poor budget of RM260?
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 9 2008, 11:05 PM)
Hmm......well, I prefer to buy on the spot rather than online. Apparently, a new power supply is a must for the 4850GS. Since the card is out of stock, I asked my sister to go around the shops in the plaza to find a good & cheap power supply. From this forum, Silverstone ST50F attracts my attention as it only costs RM259-260. But to my surprise, my sister informed me that only one shop sell that particular model and it costs RM299. So, anyone know other brand of power supply that can support 4850gs and does not exceed my poor budget of RM260?
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Bro, you can refer zhen^wei for the Silverstone ST50F since he sell at RM250 and postage is around RM10++. Refer here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/821330
I prefer Corsair since it provide 5 years warranty and powerfully single +12v rail. thumbup.gif If you not enough budget, can consider Vantec ION2+ which pre-sleeved in blue can refer here http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=783866
I give you the link for reference and price info only since knowing u prefer buy on the spot. Maybe you can try Cex since he have a shop at Serdang there, my 4850GS also buy at there. smile.gif http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=754350
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QUOTE(Siu_Keong @ Nov 9 2008, 11:30 PM)
Bro, you can refer zhen^wei for the Silverstone ST50F since he sell at RM250 and postage is around RM10++. Refer here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/821330
I prefer Corsair since it provide 5 years warranty and powerfully single +12v rail.  thumbup.gif  If you not enough budget, can consider Vantec ION2+ which pre-sleeved in blue can refer here http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=783866
I give you the link for reference and price info only since knowing u prefer buy on the spot. Maybe you can try Cex since he have a shop at Serdang there, my 4850GS also buy at there. smile.gif http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=754350
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yes ST56F 560w cheaper than corsair vx550w because st56f is much older model.

st56f supports ATX v2.0 and corsair vx550 supports newer ATX v2.2.

the main thing you need to take note here is corsair has a single powerful 12v rail. and st56f has dual 12v rails. better get either single 12v or three or four 12v rails.

High end SLI/Crossfire (x1800xt/x1900xt/7950GX2/8800GTS/8800GTX etc) users make sure you grab a single or triple/quad 12V rail PSU as its been found that most dual 12V rail PSU's won't work at all in such systems.

just to make sure the poster understands. better invest your money in other psu.

http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Power_Supply_Unit

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Guys... long time no check out the thread so fast v2
anyway
last time when i got my 4870GS i wan running on 64bit vista... then on 3dmark vantage.. always driver crash and can't proceed... turbo mode. (forgot if i tested normal mode or not)
games keep on hang a while because the driver would crash and reload
i got fed up and last night i convert to vista 32bit... thinking everything would be solved..... but i run 3dmark vantage... same thing happen... so i figure... i change back to normal. and it goes thru the test just fine but i am very very uncertain about the score..
i am using Biostar Tpower i45 motherboard with coolermaster real power pro 750w PSU.
4gb corsair XMS2 DHX DDR2-800 ram
here is the screanie.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

the score doesn't seem alright to me but i am uncertain..so i need u guys help to check it out.
and i wonder if the card got problem in turbo mode... and should i send for RMA or not.......

oh Scanart... if send for RMA how long can i get my card back....... cause i don't really have any graphic card on backup since this is a new rig that i build.....

3dmark vantage was bench at high mode which is 1680x1050 reso..
ya the driver crash on turbo mode happen also on default without OC (in case you guys might ask)
tried to OC the GC once but it just wont clock up.. even just on catalyst overdrive... core speed max increase was only to 790mhz.. was unstable and crash

GUIDE ME PLEASE cry.gif

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why do you use H preset? use Performance (P) preset...lol
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i will run another using P later today and post it up

but how bout the problem on turbo mode? the crashes and stuff

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I am using old AMD 939 3200+ Processor. Is it recommended to buy the 4850 GS ??
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not really
buy new proc....
GC cant utilize

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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 10 2008, 09:23 PM)
why nobody answer me question geh T_T
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u changed turbo mode while in windows?
or u shutdown,change to turbo..turn on back?
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 10 2008, 09:42 PM)
u changed turbo mode while in windows?
or u shutdown,change to turbo..turn on back?
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the turbo mode is actually stupid.................
if i already pay extra for non reference cooler + factory OC, y the hell i still wanna it 2 run @ "slow setting"?
just use turbo mode all the time, if u wanna underclock, create a profile 4 it la...........
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 10 2008, 09:57 PM)
the turbo mode is actually stupid.................
if i already pay extra for non reference cooler + factory OC, y the hell i still wanna it 2 run @ "slow setting"?
just use turbo mode all the time, if u wanna underclock, create a profile 4 it la...........
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Dual bioses got advantage here. Each bios OCed to 775Mhz and 850Mhz respectively
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i think turbo mode is for all the time..unless you are environment lover or want to save electricity then turn it off
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 10 2008, 10:21 PM)
Dual bioses got advantage here. Each bios OCed to 775Mhz and 850Mhz respectively
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4 me, dual bios just extra security wen flashing bios.................=_=

1st of all, the turbo button is on the wrong place,
2nd, u need 2 restart.....................

dis 2 important point mek the turbo button a stupid design.
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I did some research..

My E6300 1.86 + 4850 = 40fps.

My E6300 @ 2.7 + 4850 =65 fps.

Game tested = GRID

Processer does affect the GPU.
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QUOTE(king99 @ Nov 10 2008, 11:01 PM)
I did some research..

My E6300 1.86 + 4850 = 40fps.

My E6300 @ 2.7 + 4850 =65 fps.

Game tested = GRID

Processer does affect the GPU.
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QUOTE(king99 @ Nov 10 2008, 11:01 PM)
I did some research..

My E6300 1.86 + 4850 = 40fps.

My E6300 @ 2.7 + 4850 =65 fps.

Game tested = GRID

Processer does affect the GPU.
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ha ha h
of coz la................1.86 sure bottleneck.

if u test e8400 @ 3.0 & @ 4.0, i bet it wont yield much performance gain.
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Guys...i need a serious help....i bought HD4850 Gainward....but...i encounter black scrn problem ONLY ON Directx10 game...it works perfectly fine for directx9 games....I have already return the card once...and this is the second time i encounter tis black scrn problem...hope someone really help me out here....pretty upset for tis gainward card i bought ...
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QUOTE(twopiece @ Nov 11 2008, 12:37 AM)
Guys...i need a serious help....i bought HD4850 Gainward....but...i encounter black scrn problem ONLY ON Directx10 game...it works perfectly fine for directx9 games....I have already return the card once...and this is the second time i encounter tis black scrn problem...hope someone really help me out here....pretty upset for tis gainward card i bought ...
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the black screen , isit signal lost?
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guys... i did turn off the PC and switch to turbo mode then only i boot up.. i been using turbo mode for a month... then driver keep crashing on 3dmark vantage. COD4. crysis warhead and so on.
and the card is not willing to OC. now even on the normal mode
it still crashes but less.
i tried 3dmark vantage in performance bench as promise and funny... the display driver crash and the benchmark got interrupted and stops.
then my question is.... is there anything wrong with my card and should i RMA it...

and question to Scanart: how long would it take to RMA my card and izzit possible to have one to one exchange if checked and confirm got problem because this is now my only graphic card and without it i kenot run my PC. i am on P45 motherboard and there is NO intergrated graphic for me to temporary use.
in short i need it to be done fast. possible?

and... tech3910: what i can say is.. the golden sample 4870 is actually prices at the same as the reference cooler model from other brand or not cheaper at the time. and as for the turbo switch. extra feature.. why not? owikh84 say both mode overclock differently i am not sure but if it's true then it's very good to know. and of course u need to restart... is the bios u are messing with. u mess with ur motherboard bios or flash it. u need to restart also what.
last but not least i believe most ppl buy custom cooler graphic card is not for the extra power but is for countering the heat.

anyway.. i need my questions answered.. please and thank you ><

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Nov 9 2008, 07:17 PM)
Hmm, actually you could ask LYN admin to change your nick as this is a special case, you are changing nick to represent the new distro.
Coz I'm only running this thread temp till the new mod/PM is ready and familiar with Gainward products. If you see my signature, you will discover it's all SI/OA products, the Division I'm heading.


Hi hahn87,

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Please call Carlson 012-3118567 and ask him to expedite the RMA for you. Then sms him your service report once you send back the card to us. Tell him you need the card asap.


Hi Desmond,

Gainward 4830 will only be available by month end. No details yet because nothing is finalized. Although it has a custom cooler, we are not sure if it's an overclocked version.

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QUOTE(twopiece @ Nov 11 2008, 12:37 AM)
Guys...i need a serious help....i bought HD4850 Gainward....but...i encounter black scrn problem ONLY ON Directx10 game...it works perfectly fine for directx9 games....I have already return the card once...and this is the second time i encounter tis black scrn problem...hope someone really help me out here....pretty upset for tis gainward card i bought ...
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a while bck, people wit 1st batch 4850gs faces dis problem. urs is which batch?
the heatpipe is silver or gold color?
QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 11 2008, 01:16 AM)
guys... i did turn off the PC and switch to turbo mode then only i boot up.. i been using turbo mode for a month... then driver keep crashing on 3dmark vantage. COD4. crysis warhead and so on.
and the card is not willing to OC. now even on the normal mode
it still crashes but less.
i tried 3dmark vantage in performance bench as promise and funny... the display driver crash and the benchmark got interrupted and stops.
then my  question is.... is there anything wrong with my card and should i RMA it...

and question to Scanart: how long would it take to RMA my card and izzit possible to have one to one exchange if checked and confirm got problem because this is now my only graphic card and without it i kenot run my PC. i am on P45 motherboard and there is NO intergrated graphic for me to temporary use.
in short i need it to be done fast. possible?

and... tech3910: what i can say is.. the golden sample 4870 is actually prices at the same as the reference cooler model from other brand or not cheaper at the time. and as for the turbo switch. extra feature.. why not? owikh84 say both mode overclock differently i am not sure but if it's true then it's very good to know. and of course u need to restart... is the bios u are messing with. u mess with ur motherboard bios or flash it. u need to restart also what.
last but not least i believe most ppl buy custom cooler graphic card is not for the extra power but is for countering the heat.

anyway.. i need my questions answered.. please and thank you ><
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u shud try on another system 1st, RAM if the problem still persist.

btw, reference 4870 is much cheaper...........but not dat i recommend it, coz its hot.......
i know both bios oc differently, so wat? y i wanna OC to only 7XX wen i can OC 8XX?
the principle is like buying a quad core pc wit 4870x2 just 2 play super mario.....................
if the turbo bios is the powerful 1, y i wanna use the "slow bios"?
i'll just ran @ turbo mode all the time, i du nwanna waste my time restart pc wen i wanna ply game...............get my point?

i'm not saying turbo boots is bad......................i'm saying dat it is a unneeded design.............
dual bios is good, for extra security while flashing bios, but the turbo button just useless.
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Mine is not GS...normal version..custom fan..its not signal lost...the scrn still on ....it will flash and flash sometimes...sometimes just black out n once i exit the program den no problem d....
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QUOTE(twopiece @ Nov 11 2008, 01:55 AM)
Mine is not GS...normal version..custom fan..its not signal lost...the scrn still on ....it will flash and flash sometimes...sometimes just black out n once i exit the program den no problem d....
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try 2 resit the card, might hav something 2 do wit positioning.

sometimes, wen my pc on, i use my hand 2 touch the bck of the pbc 2 c how hot it is.
it also black sometimes, but actually no big deal. works fine running all kind of games and benches.
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4850gs 1gb already out right?
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thx scanart. now still need to use PC so still cannot send the card for RMA.
and finally vantage got through in Performance bench
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is this score normal for a E8600 core 2 duo with 4gb ram and 4870 512mb?


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hte gpu score is normal, for stock clock non OC 4870.
cpu score i dunno.
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what's the cpu speed? 3ghz?
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just saw d new price for Gainward family...
sadly d price is up edy...
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QUOTE(twopiece @ Nov 11 2008, 01:55 AM)
Mine is not GS...normal version..custom fan..its not signal lost...the scrn still on ....it will flash and flash sometimes...sometimes just black out n once i exit the program den no problem d....
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Hmm, this does sound like the problem I had while having the first batch which I RMA-ed earlier. The moment the program is turned off, the display either comes back immediately or remains black until the next restart.
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Due to Revolution R700 is identical to Gainward's 4870x2 GS, so i just post it here.

Palit Revolution 700 Deluxe 4870X2 First Look & Test: http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/palit-revo...-test/6190.html

QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 11 2008, 04:24 AM)
thx scanart. now still need to use PC so still cannot send the card for RMA.
and finally vantage got through in Performance bench
is this score normal for a E8600 core 2 duo with 4gb ram and 4870 512mb?
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the gpu score looks normal to me..

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66C is quite ok..
6pin + 8pin must get prepared..
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 11 2008, 10:00 AM)
Hmm, this does sound like the problem I had while having the first batch which I RMA-ed earlier. The moment the program is turned off, the display either comes back immediately or remains black until the next restart.
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Could it be driver issue since DX10 games got problem while DX9 no problem? I think he need to use Furmark to test it out.
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Palit Revolution R700 review
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/Revolution_R700/

p/s: i seriously doubt TPU's benchmark nowadays, due to outdated setup..
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Take a look at the new models just arrived:

1. Gainward 4650-1GB
2. Gainward 4670-1GB
3. Gainward 4850-1GB Golden Sample
4. Gainward 4870-1GB Golden Sample
5. Gainward 4870X2

Please call Camie or Carlson to find out where to get these hot models! Contact info here: http://www.scanart.com.my/v2/branches.php

All the best! icon_rolleyes.gif

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hmmm nvidia looks more attractive at those prices..
anybody wants a gainward GS 4870 1gb?? .. kekeke

dont want to be have anything in my arsenal that has anything to do with scanart..


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 12 2008, 01:19 AM)
hmmm nvidia looks more attractive at those prices..
anybody wants a gainward GS 4870 1gb?? .. kekeke

dont want to be have anything in my arsenal that has anything to do with scanart..
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why???

its the warranty procedure and length isnt it..............
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Just want to know...

2 x HD 4870 512mb GS is better than HD 4870x2 1gb GS ?
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Just want to know...

2 x HD 4870 512mb GS is better than HD 4870x2 1gb GS ?
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In performance ? or izzit the same ?
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Can anyone post a specification on the dimension for both 4850GS and 4870GS? I just realized that my motherboard is actually BTX form factor rather than ATX! Hope it fits in my casing >.<

EDIT: Just in case you guys are wondering... My desktop is Dell Dimension E520 with a big ass heatsink+cover right next to the 16 pin pcie slot.

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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Nov 12 2008, 03:24 AM)
Can anyone post a specification on the dimension for both 4850GS and 4870GS? I just realized that my motherboard is actually BTX form factor rather than ATX! Hope it fits in my casing >.<

EDIT: Just in case you guys are wondering... My desktop is Dell Dimension E520 with a big ass heatsink+cover right next to the 16 pin pcie slot.
Gainward 4850 Golden Sample: 4.376" X 8.5"

Better check with your PSU before buying these cards. Read this thread for the min PSU requirement.

Thanks for considering Gainward. notworthy.gif

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Im using a 4870GS 512mb... can i run it at 1680 x 1050 highest setting no AA and Anisotropic for any recent game like WARHEAD ?
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I want to buy 4870X2 Rampage GS, can anyone tell me where I can buy it?
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QUOTE(yo el rey @ Nov 12 2008, 11:25 AM)
I want to buy 4870X2 Rampage GS, can anyone tell me where I can buy it?
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 9 2008, 06:42 PM)
Sorry to hear that. We already said many times 2 weeks ago that stock finished. Call Carlson 012-3118567 to locate your nearest Gainward dealers.

Anyway, all stock will be here by Tue/Wed next week, with the following new models:

1. Gainward 4650-1GB
2. Gainward 4670-1GB
3. Gainward 4850-1GB Golden Sample
4. Gainward 4870-1GB Golden Sample
5. Gainward 4870X2-2GB

By end Nov, we will have special 4830, 4870X2 Rampage GS and 4870X2 GS Goes Like Hell.


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heck..i'm also cannot wait..wanna get 1...u can buy from Lehtek,cex or moderno..

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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 12 2008, 11:22 AM)
Gainward 4850 Golden Sample: 4.376" X 8.5"

Better check with your PSU before buying these cards. Read this thread for the min PSU requirement.

Thanks for considering Gainward.  notworthy.gif
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Haha, bought a new PSU, 500W true power, so no worries about it.

The only problem remaining is actually more of a "fitting a big graphic card into a strange btx motherboard", lol.

Just wondering if anyone here uses a BTX motherboard like me, can give me some advice please.

EDIT: I actually bought the Gainward 4850 GS 512MB already, waiting it to arrive at my doorstep, haha. Can't wait.

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QUOTE(James_yka @ Nov 12 2008, 11:23 AM)
Im using a 4870GS 512mb... can i run it at 1680 x 1050 highest setting no AA and Anisotropic  for any recent game like WARHEAD ?
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What CPU you using? Normally, 4870 should be able to run smoothly at the setting on WARHEAD.
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here is your answer...
heck..i'm also cannot wait..wanna get 1...u can buy from Lehtek,cex or moderno..
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What CPU you using? Normally, 4870 should be able to run smoothly at the setting on WARHEAD.
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Im using Phenom 9550 with DFI 790FXB-MR2SH and Corsair 4gb Dominator...

So 512mb should be enough to run 1680 x 1050 res ? cos i still cant max the setting, only able to play in Gamer setting average smooth... i tot it might be the cause of insufficient GRam...
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try OC ur proc till 3.0Ghz..
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 12 2008, 12:42 PM)
try OC ur proc till 3.0Ghz..
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Tried OverDrive, can only get 2.7ghz... still using the ori HSF, if i would to change HSF what should i get, i really dunno wat is good or not...

Thz for the recommendation...
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ok dudes and dudettes. after much drama with my gainward 4850 sent back for warranty purposes, the dealer asked me if i would accept a gainward, but this time nvidia 9800gt golden sample 1024 mb. so... the question is... is it worth it? am i losing or gaining anything from this swap?
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4850 way superrior than 9800gt

and yeah, u will lose expected performance if u change to 9800GT

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guys, am considering the 4850 GS 512MB, does it still have problem like black outs?
how to determine if its 1st batch or not?
look @ the heatpipe? if its silver means? gold means?
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but from what i can see in reviews, the two are marginally close, the difference being 1-2 fps at different resolutions
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Nov 12 2008, 03:35 PM)
guys, am considering the 4850 GS 512MB, does it still have problem like black outs?
how to determine if its 1st batch or not?
look @ the heatpipe? if its silver means? gold means?
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1st batch have gold color heatpipe.

currently, new stocks is silver-color heatpipe..

QUOTE(Zan @ Nov 12 2008, 03:43 PM)
but from what i can see in reviews, the two are marginally close, the difference being 1-2 fps at different resolutions
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i think u either mistaken 9800GTX/+ as the 9800GT , or HD4850 as HD4830 sweat.gif

take a look here : http://techreport.com/articles.x/14967

and here : http://techreport.com/articles.x/15752/4

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i think not sweat.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/article/call-of-duty...formance-test/6
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that is new game, and amd has no official driver for it yet sweat.gif
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aaah... so, the plot thickens, my friend. smile.gif

ok, i think we can go back and forth on this thing till the end of time, but try to be objective about this (not that i`m implying you`re a fanboy or anything), and tell me if i should bust a cap in my dealer`s knee for screwing me over with this nvidia/ati gainward thingie. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zan @ Nov 12 2008, 04:13 PM)
aaah... so, the plot thickens, my friend. smile.gif

ok, i think we can go back and forth on this thing till the end of time, but try to be objective about this (not that i`m implying you`re a fanboy or anything), and tell me if i should bust a cap in my dealer`s knee for screwing me over with this nvidia/ati gainward thingie. smile.gif
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if you take a look around anandtech, guru3d, techpowerup, techreport and others review website, 4850 competitor is 9800GTX+, and 9800GT competitor is 4830

im not sure thou, Gainward 4850 priced around RM550~565, while Gainward 9800GT priced below RM499, so it is up to you the swap worth it or not
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the thing is, i don`t get a refund. so i`m guessing the dealer is trying to bend me over the table with this deal. aaight... i`ll take the advice of the pro on this one. thanks alot for your time, pikacu.
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QUOTE(Zan @ Nov 12 2008, 04:25 PM)
the thing is, i don`t get a refund. so i`m guessing the dealer is trying to bend me over the table with this deal. aaight... i`ll take the advice of the pro on this one. thanks alot for your time, pikacu.
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another question.. is there really a big difference between 4850 GS 512MB and 4850 512MB?
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guys , i only put 1 connector with 4870 gs and 4850 HIS iceq turbo end up can boot but my whole casing got electric , i just kena sot zzzz damm got problem izit? zzzz
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Nov 12 2008, 05:44 PM)
another question.. is there really a big difference between 4850 GS 512MB and 4850 512MB?
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can run on turbo mode..a bit OC and also better temperature due to good cooler design...
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Nov 12 2008, 05:44 PM)
another question.. is there really a big difference between 4850 GS 512MB and 4850 512MB?
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the biggest improvement is temperature.
performance wise & OC ability of coz also better.
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i see, thanks alot for the answers people.
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@ tellmewhy,
Wow kena sot from putting in Gainward and HIS card? You tried CF-ing is it? It's odd.. owikh84 CF-ed his cards too, but no problem.
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@ tellmewhy,
Wow kena sot from putting in Gainward and HIS card? You tried CF-ing is it? It's odd.. owikh84 CF-ed his cards too, but no problem.
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Hi guys.

I am having black screen problem with Gainward HD 4850 512MB DDR3 (first batch I guess, is bronze color heatpipe).

I am using Catalyst 8.10 (with Control Center installed). Set Fan Speed to Manual at 45%

Black screen happens while:
1. Update Vista Score, around Direct3D stages (it happens randomlly)
2. 3DMarks - Second stage (it happends while starting at the first few seconds)
3. Red Alert 3 - After playing for minutes, the screen will shake. Randomlly is becomes black screen


Please advice which driver or should I install control center, etc.

Thanks



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hmm, u got it recently? the gpu i meant..This u need to consult Scanart regarding the blackout issue..not sure if they still offer 1 to 1 exchange for it.
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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Nov 12 2008, 05:52 PM)
guys , i only put 1 connector with 4870 gs and 4850 HIS iceq turbo end up can boot but my whole casing got electric , i just kena sot zzzz damm got problem izit? zzzz
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Electric leakage. Last time I hv this issue with my old casing. Changed to new case everything's fine now. Check the wired from PSU. May be got cut cables & exposed/contacting with others. nod.gif

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@ tellmewhy,
Wow kena sot from putting in Gainward and HIS card? You tried CF-ing is it? It's odd.. owikh84 CF-ed his cards too, but no problem.
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Glad u all still remember my CF 4870GS + PowerColor 4850 rclxms.gif
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Hehe you're by far with the outstanding signature in this thread biggrin.gif Sold your 4850 d?
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Hehe you're by far with the outstanding signature in this thread biggrin.gif Sold your 4850 d?
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Lolz laugh.gif .. Sold my 4850 n Vortexx NEO long time ago now playing with single 4870GS
No reason to CF 4850 + 4870 since the performance is the same with CF 4850 or 4850x2 doh.gif
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I see biggrin.gif I may consider buying your sound card anytime soon hehee
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QUOTE(kcherng @ Nov 12 2008, 10:21 PM)
Hi guys.
I am having black screen problem with Gainward HD 4850 512MB DDR3 (first batch I guess, is bronze color heatpipe).
I am using Catalyst 8.10 (with Control Center installed). Set Fan Speed to Manual at 45%

Black screen happens while:
1. Update Vista Score, around Direct3D stages (it happens randomlly)
2. 3DMarks - Second stage (it happends while starting at the first few seconds)
3. Red Alert 3 - After playing for minutes, the screen will shake. Randomlly is becomes black screen
Please advice which driver or should I install control center, etc.
Hi there,

Yours card looks like one of those defective first batch. Please send it back to us for RMA. Courier it back to us. Click the company link below for our address and contact details. Just send the card back, wrap properly with anti-static bubble plastic in a tight box. Write down Gainward first batch RMA, and put ATTN: Mr. Steven Cheah.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused notworthy.gif, but please be assured that once you see the low temp of the latest batch (with nickel plated heatpipes and better chips), it will put a smile back to your face again. If you search the Net, you'll see that our card not only has low temp & super cooler, it's also highly overclockable. icon_idea.gif

Thank you for choosing Gainward.
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Hi there,

Yours card looks like one of those defective first batch. Please send it back to us for RMA. Courier it back to us. Click the company link below for our address and contact details. Just send the card back, wrap properly with anti-static bubble plastic in a tight box. Write down Gainward first batch RMA, and put ATTN: Mr. Steven Cheah.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused  notworthy.gif, but please be assured that once you see the low temp of the latest batch (with nickel plated heatpipes and better chips), it will put a smile back to your face again. If you search the Net, you'll see that our card not only has low temp & super cooler, it's also highly overclockable.  icon_idea.gif

Thank you for choosing Gainward.
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Hi,

I will try to send it back to you.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 13 2008, 01:07 AM)
Hi there,

Yours card looks like one of those defective first batch. Please send it back to us for RMA. Courier it back to us. Click the company link below for our address and contact details. Just send the card back, wrap properly with anti-static bubble plastic in a tight box. Write down Gainward first batch RMA, and put ATTN: Mr. Steven Cheah.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused  notworthy.gif, but please be assured that once you see the low temp of the latest batch (with nickel plated heatpipes and better chips), it will put a smile back to your face again. If you search the Net, you'll see that our card not only has low temp & super cooler, it's also highly overclockable.  icon_idea.gif

Thank you for choosing Gainward.
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Yes the second batch has a terrifying low temp.
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hey guy, i plan to buy Gainward HD4850 512MB, but i not sure whether my pc (3 years old) can support the gc, i need the advice from the expert here before go to buy it.

my pc spec
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no money to buy new pc cry.gif cry.gif
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sopremo, what is your mobo? if it doesn't come with PCIE slot ... then sorry your PC can't support tongue.gif


BTW, COD my 4850GS tomolo @ moderno site wuakakakakkak !!!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(sopremo @ Nov 13 2008, 03:11 PM)
hey guy, i plan to buy Gainward HD4850 512MB, but i not sure whether my pc (3 years old) can support the gc, i need the advice from the expert here before go to buy it.

my pc spec
Pentium 4 2.8GHz
2GB RAM - Kingston 533 DDR2
80GB Seagate [Sata]
Samsung DVDRW 16x [IDE]
ATX 450W PSU

no money to buy new pc cry.gif  cry.gif
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bottleneck possibility...
ur PSU true power or just chap ayam PSU?
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That P4 2.8GHz is definitely going to bottleneck the 4850. Either upgrade the CPU, or go for a lower end card since you won't be able to unleash the full potential of the 4850 with that processor.
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Nov 13 2008, 03:25 PM)
sopremo, what is your mobo? if it doesn't come with PCIE slot ... then sorry your PC can't support tongue.gif
BTW,  COD my 4850GS tomolo @ moderno site wuakakakakkak !!!! rclxms.gif
Although price increase ..... sweat.gif
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yup, my modo come with PCIE slot

QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 13 2008, 03:28 PM)
bottleneck possibility...
ur PSU true power or just chap ayam PSU?
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i not sure is true power o not, i using icute 450W/p4

QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 13 2008, 03:28 PM)
That P4 2.8GHz is definitely going to bottleneck the 4850. Either upgrade the CPU, or go for a lower end card since you won't be able to unleash the full potential of the 4850 with that processor.
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ic, then which card is suitable for my pc? 4760? 3850?

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i not sure is true power o not, i using icute 450W/p4

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Any Gainward HD 4850 512MB custom cooler owner here? Can show me the idle and load temperature?
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go for a true power psu range from Rm200 to RM280 then get yourself a HD4650 if u dont want change the proc..but i u wanna change..u have to get atleast E5200 if u dont plan to OC ur proc..
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 13 2008, 04:10 PM)
go for a true power psu range  from Rm200 to RM280 then get yourself a HD4650 if u dont want change the proc..but i u wanna change..u have to get atleast E5200 if u dont plan to OC ur proc..
Hi Sopremo,

Good suggestion by Serigala. If you don't want to change/upgrade anything or your PC, the best choice for you is Gainward 4670-512, performance close to NV 9600 but just use power from the PCI-E slot. If you are considering 4830 onwards, then your CPU might cause a bottleneck.

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Gainward 4670 comes with all ports: D-Sub (CRT), DVI, HDMI and Display Port.

Further, Gainward 4670 Custom Cooler has an anti-static, anti-dust PCB cover for protection.

Gainward HD4670 full info: http://www.netraid.com.my/Gainward-HD4670-512MB.pdf

For all those who are confused or uncertain with regards to ATI 4670 vs 3600 series vs 9500GT, read the link below:

ATI HD4600 series full info: http://www.netraid.com.my/ATI-HD4600-RV730...resentation.pdf

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Compare 4670 with 3850, which is better? coz i see the price for both card are not much different

3850 suitable for my pc?

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Can you guys help me to identify this is the first or 2nd batch ??
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Can you guys help me to identify this is the first or 2nd batch ??

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From the silver color nickel plated heatpipes, it looks like 2nd batch onwards...

But more importantly is the temp, 2nd batch Waaaaaaaay cooler, idle around 35C to 40C, load around 55C to 60C.

Even our first batch (with golden color copper heatpipes) beat most of the othe brands, lower temp. See this link: http://www.geeks3d.com/?p=1480

user posted image First batch review already very cool, now much cooler.

Reference 4850 is too hot and some normal 4850 is still hot, unless you spend RM150+ to buy a 3rd party cooler. If that is the case, then you paid more than Gainward 4850 GS already, for slower speed some more... That's why Gainward 4850 GS is so popular, best value for money. Thanks everyone for choosing Gainward. notworthy.gif
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I see thanks for the clarification ..

Mine idles at around 40C to 43C with 50% fan speed..

Fast and cooling .. well that's the reason why i get this card .. laugh.gif
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GS heatsink can work on par with accelero twin turbo cooler
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4870 1 ? or 4850?
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4870..
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Hi Scanart, may i know the cooling system of Gainward 4670?

i mean the temperatre at idle/load
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Hi all,

Just bought a Gainward 4850 GS today.

Was debating whether to get HIS 4850ICEQ4 or GW4850GS, glad that i chose Gainward.

Satisfied user here and the temps are Lowww. 40 - 45C idle.
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hi,

just bought a 4870 1gb GS. idle at 56 full load around 66 no aircond..

fan at auto, are the temperature as it is for malaysian climate?
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QUOTE(demeter @ Nov 13 2008, 08:25 PM)
hi,

just bought a 4870 1gb GS. idle at 56 full load around 66 no aircond..

fan at auto, are the temperature as it is for malaysian climate?
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Temp depends on ur room & casing temp too. Make sure that u hv a good cable management so that the air flows smoothly inside ur case nod.gif
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my 4870 1gb gs getting 56C idle....

in expertool ati, fan should be set fixed or dynamic better?

currently im using fixed fan...at 60% speed
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I am worry about the heat of the graphic card. In case where the fan has failed to function(Eg:stop spinning), what will happen to the card? Wont the graphic card notice the user about it?
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I am worry about the heat of the graphic card. In case where the fan has failed to function(Eg:stop spinning), what will happen to the card? Wont the graphic card notice the user about it?
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 13 2008, 09:14 PM)
I am worry about the heat of the graphic card. In case where the fan has failed to function(Eg:stop spinning), what will happen to the card? Wont the graphic card notice the user about it?
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i'm getting about that temp as well...u can change your fan speed to 85% or 80%...can't remember exctly which value but it will help lower down the temp to below 50'C...
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 13 2008, 08:55 PM)
my 4870 1gb gs getting 56C idle....

in expertool ati, fan should be set fixed or dynamic better?

currently im using fixed fan...at 60% speed
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Nov 13 2008, 10:23 PM)
i'm getting about that temp as well...u can change your fan speed to 85% or 80%...can't remember exctly which value but it will help lower down the temp to below 50'C...
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 13 2008, 06:06 PM)
From the silver color nickel plated heatpipes, it looks like 2nd batch onwards...

But more importantly is the temp, 2nd batch Waaaaaaaay cooler, idle around 35C to 40C, load around 55C to 60C.

Even our first batch (with golden color copper heatpipes) beat most of the othe brands, lower temp. See this link: http://www.geeks3d.com/?p=1480

user posted image First batch review already very cool, now much cooler.

Reference 4850 is too hot and some normal 4850 is still hot, unless you spend RM150+ to buy a 3rd party cooler. If that is the case, then you paid more than Gainward 4850 GS already, for slower speed some more... That's why Gainward 4850 GS is so popular, best value for money. Thanks everyone for choosing Gainward.  notworthy.gif
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i heard about 4850gs got such 1st batch ,2nd batch thingy la; so 4870gs got such problem like 1st batch /2nd batch thing?

so tempting to get 1 liao~

thanks for any reply thumbup.gif

off topic a bit, how much a 2ndhand value for sapphire 4850 ref

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temp 46' at idle for 4850 oke?50% fan speed
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QUOTE(maxburnz @ Nov 14 2008, 02:10 AM)
temp 46' at idle for 4850 oke?50% fan speed
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Pretty normal idle temp for a 4850 n 4870 as well.
Depends on ur room temp n casing.

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Izzit possible to OC eventho im using GS ? XD

I tried the CCC, it can only OC by a bit... 790 and 1050... possible to get higher ?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 13 2008, 08:40 PM)
My 4870GS 512MB shows 47C idle n 60C load. Never exceed 60C so far.
Temp depends on ur room & casing temp too. Make sure that u hv a good cable management so that the air flows smoothly inside ur case  nod.gif
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why mine cannot go more than 54c on load even when ambient temp is 34c?last time 85c at load.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 13 2008, 10:36 PM)
80%?? noisy as a hairdryer?  shocking.gif
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not as noisy as my delta fan..pumping 190cfm at 4000RPM..hell..i was thankful to my speaker system for being more louder...

QUOTE(James_yka @ Nov 14 2008, 08:57 AM)
Izzit possible to OC eventho im using GS ? XD

I tried the CCC, it can only OC by a bit... 790 and 1050... possible to get higher ?
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riva tuner anybody?maybe u can ask owikh how he do it..

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Anyone using CCC 8.11 now? My Windows Vista Ultimate is screwed up because of that. Everytime I boot up now, I can't see the Welcome screen. Upon going to desktop, I can't see my taskbar at all. Right clicking pops out but the options selected doesn't work. Nothing works!!!!!

HELP!
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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 14 2008, 11:01 AM)
Anyone using CCC 8.11 now? My Windows Vista Ultimate is screwed up because of that. Everytime I boot up now, I can't see the Welcome screen. Upon going to desktop, I can't see my taskbar at all. Right clicking pops out but the options selected doesn't work. Nothing works!!!!!

HELP!
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same here,got problem with 8.11..reboot into safe mode,uninstall driver,clean all da junk with driver cleaner pro and re-install back...atm everything seems to be alright except i cant use ccc anymore,maybe becuz im on onboard gc..
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Me too.. EXACTLY the same problem. I even tried reverting back to 8.10. SAME problem! Wahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!


Added on November 14, 2008, 11:11 amAny Superman/woman here can help us please. Thanks. Sigh.

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I'm using 8.11, just installed this morning biggrin.gif. And was playing COD5 with it rclxm9.gif

Just a bit pissed off with my onboard ALC888 audio ._.
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I'm gonna go find out a solution in the mean time.


Added on November 14, 2008, 11:12 amIt's working? Oh noes. Why oh why.

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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 14 2008, 11:09 AM)
Me too.. EXACTLY the same problem. I even tried reverting back to 8.10. SAME problem! Wahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
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hmm...weird,ccc cant be use on hd4850..i thought this prob only occur on igp..try clean everything including chipset driver..
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i have no problem installing 8.11, all i did was install it over 8.10, because last time when I uninstall, reboot, use driver cleaner and try install new driver always got problem.
install ontop of previous driver no problem for me
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But, bout the black screen one, I encountered this once or twice before. Right after the loading bar, it went all black. That was 8.10 though, and very rarely. Probably once or twice only.
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Chipset driver? And where do I get the driver once I cleaned it out?


Added on November 14, 2008, 11:18 amWow.. it's so odd. Others seem to have them work fine. While me and DunkyKung having problems.

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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 14 2008, 11:15 AM)
Chipset driver? And where do I get the driver once I cleaned it out?
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on ur mobo cd maybe.. icon_rolleyes.gif

well,other ppl can use 8.11 by install over 8.10,i did dat before,and da result is,when boot into window,screen freeze and distort.. doh.gif hmm..maybe clash with other s/w?
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I'll go meddle with it now.. Sigh.
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Oh, mine I uninstalled, reboot safe mode, used the driver cleaner and then installed it. Works perfectly fine. smile.gif.
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Alrighty.. I've yet to install CCC 8.11, but I've:
- Gone into safe mode and used Driver Sweeper and CCleaner to clean out the ATI software,
- Got back into Windows nicely and went to Uninstall the remains of the ATI driver,
- Went back into Safe Mode to clean the mess (suprisingly there's still remains of the ATI driver)
- Now going to install the driver. Wish me luck.


Added on November 14, 2008, 12:06 pmThe same problem happened after a very clean installment of the driver. Gonna try 8.10 now.

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QUOTE(James_yka @ Nov 14 2008, 08:57 AM)
Izzit possible to OC eventho im using GS ? XD

I tried the CCC, it can only OC by a bit... 790 and 1050... possible to get higher ?
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Okay.. now 8.10 also gives me the same problem as 8.11. What the heck is going on? Looks like there's some sort of a bug in my system now that I find it hard to recover from.

@ DunkyKung, any luck to getting it work?
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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 14 2008, 12:37 PM)
Okay.. now 8.10 also gives me the same problem as 8.11. What the heck is going on? Looks like there's some sort of a bug in my system now that I find it hard to recover from.

@ DunkyKung, any luck to getting it work?
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I guess you have to repair ur windows, try to reinstall ur windows and install the CCC
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I wished that's not the only resolution left.. I'll leave that as last resort.
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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 14 2008, 12:49 PM)
I wished that's not the only resolution left.. I'll leave that as last resort.
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Hmm.. I don't see what other options I can use d. This is sooo bad.
Decided to reformat d. Geez just because of a driver I got this screwed. rclxub.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 14 2008, 01:21 PM)
Hmm.. I don't see what other options I can use d. This is sooo bad.
Decided to reformat d. Geez just because of a driver I got this screwed.  rclxub.gif  cry.gif
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wait..ill try figure it out...
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Owkay. I'll get ready my stuff for reformatting at the moment.
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Got my Gainward 4850 GS from Cex yesterday!

39 degrees idle at night, 41 degrees during day time.

Average 53 degrees when playing RA3 on maximum graphics and 1280 X 1024 reso.

I am loving it rclxm9.gif

PS: Casing is left open and lie down on the table due to the enormous size of the GC. Currently my proc heatsink is standing on top of the proc, not skrued on.
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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Nov 14 2008, 03:03 PM)
Got my Gainward 4850 GS from Cex yesterday!

39 degrees idle at night, 41 degrees during day time.

Average 53 degrees when playing RA3 on maximum graphics and 1280 X 1024 reso.

I am loving it  rclxm9.gif

PS: Casing is left open and lie down on the table due to the enormous size of the GC. Currently my proc heatsink is standing on top of the proc, not skrued on.
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u tried vantage edi?
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Hey dudes and dudettes. It`s me again. biggrin.gif I have a quick question for y`all... I`m looking for a mobo to match my 4850 GS (yes, that`s right, i went to the dealer and put my foot down so now i get to be upgraded from GW 4850 non GS to GS version).

I`m not trying to do Crossfire, and it has to be with DDR2, since i heard that DDR3 is not much of an improvement but with big difference in price. Oh yeah... and i have a C2D E7300.

Thanks

LE: oh... and not too pricey icon_question.gif

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if its me..i wouldnt mind to get myself a p45 chipset mobo..
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P35 or P45 depending on budget. Or if you want something new, but not into overclocking, can opt for the lite P45 (Asus has them) without the CFX, or the P43.
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Like your mobo, celciuz? Is your mobo suiting you well?
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Hey guys can anyone update me on the top 10 graphic cards lately?
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Like your mobo, celciuz? Is your mobo suiting you well?
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QUOTE(Strayfah @ Nov 14 2008, 05:07 PM)
Hey guys can anyone update me on the top 10 graphic cards lately?
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1) hd4870 x2 2gb
2) hd4850 x2 2gb
3) gtx 280
4) 9800gtx2
5) hd4870 1gb
6) gtx 260
7) 9800gtx+
8) hd4850 512mb
9) hd4850 1gb
10) hd4850 512mb

order: top gpu ( 1-10 )


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QUOTE(rd33 @ Nov 14 2008, 05:24 PM)
1)  hd4870 x2 2gb
2)  hd4850 x2 2gb
3)  gtx 280
4)  9800gtx2
5)  hd4870 1gb
6)  gtx 260
7)  9800gtx+
8)  hd4850 512mb-->actually HD4870 512MB
9)  hd4850 1gb
10) hd4850 512mb

order: top gpu ( 1-10 )
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QUOTE(desmond1310 @ Nov 14 2008, 02:15 PM)
Owkay. I'll get ready my stuff for reformatting at the moment.
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ady formatted?i just back from my exam..sorry..will try aite now.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(EasternBadge @ Nov 13 2008, 04:08 PM)
Any Gainward HD 4850 512MB custom cooler owner here? Can show me the idle and load temperature?
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Why no one answer my question one? cry.gif
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okay here we go,i ady recover from our probo,

this is my step
1.uninstall all ati driver using your uninstaller 2008(not using control panel)
2.clean data using cc cleaner
3.reboot into safe mode
4.run driver cleaner pro,clean all ati driver
5.reboot back,run cc cleaner,if have tune up utilities,use tune up 1 click
6.install back driver 8.10(i dun try yet tis kind of method for driver 8.11)
7.reboot.


c if u can use ccc,if not,i dunno lor..btw im glad to help u.. biggrin.gif

off topic-
u at mmu melaka?lol..im at utem melaka.. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(EasternBadge @ Nov 14 2008, 07:10 PM)
Why no one answer my question one?  cry.gif
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dunno coz i use HD4870..
but from thread version 1 they do post they temp..around 40 to 50 on idle(depends on ambient temp) and 60 to 70 on load(also depends on ambient temp)
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I bought a Gainward 4870x2 2gb ddr5 for my friend........ I'd tried on his pc, all games runs very smoothly and no lagg at all high configuration setting! LOve it very much and hope to get 1 Gainward 4870x2 if i got money! GAINWARD THE BEST FOR 4870x2!!!! wink.gif

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QUOTE(popothegreat @ Nov 14 2008, 07:28 PM)
I bought a Gainward 4870x2 2gb ddr5 for my friend........ I'd tried on his pc, all games runs very  smoothly and no lagg at all high configuration setting! LOve it very much and hope to get 1 Gainward 4870x2 if i got money! GAINWARD THE BEST FOR 4870x2!!!! wink.gif
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very nice card u got there..but sad,my gaming mood all gone sad.gif if not sure angkat gainward 4850gs..now still thinking should get 4670 or not...
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 14 2008, 07:19 PM)
dunno coz i use HD4870..
but from thread version 1 they do post they temp..around 40 to 50 on idle(depends on ambient temp) and 60 to 70 on load(also depends on ambient temp)
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Are you talking about 4850 GS? But I meant the Gainward HD 4850 with custom fan.
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QUOTE(DunkyKung @ Nov 14 2008, 08:14 PM)
okay here we go,i ady recover from our probo,

this is my step
1.uninstall all ati driver using your uninstaller 2008(not using control panel)
2.clean data using cc cleaner
3.reboot into safe mode
4.run driver cleaner pro,clean all ati driver
5.reboot back,run cc cleaner,if have tune up utilities,use tune up 1 click
6.install back driver 8.10(i dun try yet tis kind of method for driver 8.11)
7.reboot.
c if u can use ccc,if not,i dunno lor..btw im glad to help u.. biggrin.gif

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u at mmu melaka?lol..im at utem melaka.. rolleyes.gif
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Haha reformatted d. After all I've tried all sorts of ways.. cannot jalan also. Thanks for the effort biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DunkyKung @ Nov 14 2008, 07:31 PM)
very nice card u got there..but sad,my gaming mood all gone sad.gif if not sure angkat gainward 4850gs..now still thinking should get 4670 or not...
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GAINWARD HD4670 is a card that challenge the Nvidia 9600gt card.... The 4670 is great also...... Can play all kind of games already..... It is worth to buy it..... wink.gif
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QUOTE(commandboy @ Nov 14 2008, 02:06 AM)
i heard about 4850gs got such 1st batch ,2nd batch thingy la; so 4870gs got such problem like 1st batch /2nd batch thing?

so tempting to get 1 liao~

thanks for any reply  thumbup.gif

off topic a bit, how much a 2ndhand value for sapphire 4850 ref
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no 1 reply me cry.gif
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hmm, less than 500? since new 1 should b around Rm550 already biggrin.gif...ref card...yummy...wanna try CF
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is there any differences between the old batch and the new batch of 4870GS???

4850GS old=copper colored heatsink
4850GS new=nickel plated heatsink..

4870GS??
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Hi again people!

I just built the computer in my new antec 300 case cause of height of s1283 heatpipe cooler that was too much for my previous tower case.

But I am having some serious problems, I install every version of ati drivers for 4800 series and the screen becomes completely green sad.gif those drivers from the CD included in the package don't work too...

I'm now without drivers (display controlers of windows) and the colours are correct but cannot play anything and everything is kind of slow.

Any ideas what could be my problem?? is this a defective one?

I have the 2nd batch of the card.

Help!! cry.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Nov 15 2008, 03:42 AM)
is there any differences between the old batch and the new batch of 4870GS???

4850GS old=copper colored heatsink
4850GS new=nickel plated heatsink..

4870GS??
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Same as 4850GS

QUOTE(legendofvoodoo @ Nov 15 2008, 06:39 AM)
Hi again people!

I just built the computer in my new antec 300 case cause of height of s1283 heatpipe cooler that was too much for my previous tower case.

But I am having some serious problems, I install every version of ati drivers for 4800 series and the screen becomes completely green  sad.gif  those drivers from the CD included in the package don't work too...

I'm now without drivers (display controlers of windows) and the colours are correct but cannot play anything and everything is kind of slow.

Any ideas what could be my problem?? is this a defective one?

I have the 2nd batch of the card.

Help!! cry.gif
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Try chance to other cable i.e. VGA, DVI, or HDMI.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Nov 15 2008, 03:42 AM)
is there any differences between the old batch and the new batch of 4870GS???

4850GS old=copper colored heatsink
4850GS new=nickel plated heatsink..

4870GS??
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thanks dude, i wanna know also...

or in other words, 4870gs all is nickel plated heatsink ???


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Same as 4850GS
Try chance to other cable i.e. VGA, DVI, or HDMI.
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owikh84, i saw few page back there, realize u got urself a 4870gs , how it perform ? better than other non-reference ???(4870gs yet the most fastest card among all?)



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4870x2 GS > 4870GS > 4850GS
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guys gainward 4670,can compete with nv 9600gt kah??got very similar price between these two..
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QUOTE(commandboy @ Nov 15 2008, 09:45 AM)
thanks dude, i wanna know also...

or in other words, 4870gs all is nickel plated heatsink ???


Added on November 15, 2008, 9:48 am

owikh84, i saw few page back there, realize u got urself a  4870gs , how it perform ? better than other non-reference ???(4870gs yet the most fastest card among all?)
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I'm not sure whether cooper heatpipes exist for 4870GS. Better ask Scanart to confirm.
I'd say 4870GS is among the best factory-OCed 4870 around, with its low temps of 47/60C
And of course 775/1000 is the fastest clock atm.

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QUOTE(DunkyKung @ Nov 15 2008, 10:14 AM)
guys gainward 4670,can compete with nv 9600gt kah??got very similar price between these two..
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some cases, 9600GT win, some ases, 4670 win.

but overall game performance, 9600GT win


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 15 2008, 10:18 AM)
I'm not sure whether cooper heatpipes exist for 4870GS. Better ask Scanart to confirm.
I'd say 4870GS is among the best factory-OCed 4870 around, with its low temps of 47/60C
And of course 775/1000 is the fastest clock atm.
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xiexie...

hope scanart can confirm me, coz scare buy wrong... whistling.gif

i saw many review of 4850gs , as compared , gainward is most fastest 4850gc(i think la) n "sejuk"; but not sure 4870gs ,coz i interested in 4870gs ma ~

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QUOTE(legendofvoodoo @ Nov 15 2008, 06:39 AM)
Hi again people!

I just built the computer in my new antec 300 case cause of height of s1283 heatpipe cooler that was too much for my previous tower case.

But I am having some serious problems, I install every version of ati drivers for 4800 series and the screen becomes completely green  sad.gif  those drivers from the CD included in the package don't work too...

I'm now without drivers (display controlers of windows) and the colours are correct but cannot play anything and everything is kind of slow.

Any ideas what could be my problem?? is this a defective one?

I have the 2nd batch of the card.

Help!! cry.gif
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Try different dvi/vga cable or reseat it,i would say this is it.
How is the green like??Any picture?

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hayy...may i ask the question here...
Gainward HD 4850 GS can be crossfire with other HD4850 model ha??? (w/o GS)

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Haha reformatted d. After all I've tried all sorts of ways.. cannot jalan also. Thanks for the effort biggrin.gif
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Anyone here got gainward 4850 reference card?
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NEW user here 4850GS 1GB DDR3. biggrin.gif Using E6300 slightly overclock to 2.0G only. Hope dun be bottleneck for my CARD. tongue.gif
BTW the card come with

1) DVI to VGA connector
2) 6 pin to 8 pin converter?
3) DRIVER CD
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How come no DVI to HDMI converter? Or have i missing something else? Hope someone to clarify this Thank you. icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(pot @ Nov 15 2008, 03:46 PM)
NEW user here 4850GS 1GB DDR3. biggrin.gif Using E6300 slightly overclock to 2.0G only. Hope dun be bottleneck for my CARD.  tongue.gif
BTW the card come with

1) DVI to VGA connector
2) 6 pin to 8 pin converter?
3) DRIVER CD
4) USER Manual

How come no DVI to HDMI converter? Or have i missing something else? Hope someone to clarify this Thank you.  icon_question.gif
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If I get the HD4850GS which needs 8 pin PCI-E power connector when my PSU only has 6 pin ones, will the card run? Need some clarifications... smile.gif
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If I get the HD4850GS which needs 8 pin PCI-E power connector when my PSU only has 6 pin ones, will the card run? Need some clarifications... smile.gif
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there is converter bundle along with the card
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Anyone using E2140 with HD4870? Hehe want to know how's the perfomance so far. If no BIG troubles / bottleneck, might leave my E2140 stay in the case pair with this beast and hold the upgrade. Just put my E2140 like normal to 3.4GHz blush.gif

Hunting this gainward GS too..hope good offer will knock my inbox door soon biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 13 2008, 01:07 AM)
Hi there,

Yours card looks like one of those defective first batch. Please send it back to us for RMA. Courier it back to us. Click the company link below for our address and contact details. Just send the card back, wrap properly with anti-static bubble plastic in a tight box. Write down Gainward first batch RMA, and put ATTN: Mr. Steven Cheah.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused  notworthy.gif, but please be assured that once you see the low temp of the latest batch (with nickel plated heatpipes and better chips), it will put a smile back to your face again. If you search the Net, you'll see that our card not only has low temp & super cooler, it's also highly overclockable.  icon_idea.gif

Thank you for choosing Gainward.
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I would like to know, is there any other option to RMA? say,
I notice there is a ScanArt branch in Johor (Batu Pahat), which is just opposite of my house.
It would be nice if I can just exchange in the Johor (Batu Pahat) branch.

BTW, what is RMA?
For this case, I could get 1 to 1 exchange right?

Thanks
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I wonder if my AMD 5200 will bottleneck or not. Can feel a mild lag in game.
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QUOTE(legendofvoodoo @ Nov 15 2008, 06:39 AM)
Hi again people!
I just built the computer in my new antec 300 case cause of height of s1283 heatpipe cooler that was too much for my previous tower case.
But I am having some serious problems, I install every version of ati drivers for 4800 series and the screen becomes completely green  sad.gif  those drivers from the CD included in the package don't work too...
I'm now without drivers (display controlers of windows) and the colours are correct but cannot play anything and everything is kind of slow.
Any ideas what could be my problem?? is this a defective one?
I have the 2nd batch of the card.
Help!! cry.gif
1st make sure you card is plug in properly and tightly. Do you hear any beeping sound when from switch till you boot into windows? If yes, how many beep?

2nd, make sure you have COMPLETELY UNINSTALL the previous drivers. ATI drivers are hard to remove completely from the folders and registry. Try using http://www.ccleaner.com/ and Drive Sweeper to clean your PC. Once that is done, reinstall the driver again, perhaps CCC 8.10

3rd, as a control test, bring your card over to another friend's PC with similar specs (and enough power), plug it in and see if it works.

If all 3 failed, then bring it back to us for RMA (click on the Scanart link below).


QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 15 2008, 10:18 AM)
I'm not sure whether cooper heatpipes exist for 4870GS. Better ask Scanart to confirm.
I'd say 4870GS is among the best factory-OCed 4870 around, with its low temps of 47/60C
And of course 775/1000 is the fastest clock atm.
No cooper heatpipes for Gainward 4870 GS, all nickel plated heatpipes. See these links for more info: thumbup.gif

http://www.netraid.com.my/Gainward-HD4870-...lden-Sample.pdf

http://www.netraid.com.my/Gainward-HD4870-Golden-Sample.pdf


QUOTE(kcherng @ Nov 15 2008, 06:41 PM)
Hi,
I would like to know, is there any other option to RMA? say,
I notice there is a ScanArt branch in Johor (Batu Pahat), which is just opposite of my house.
It would be nice if I can just exchange in the Johor (Batu Pahat) branch.

BTW, what is RMA?
For this case, I could get 1 to 1 exchange right?
Thanks
Our BP branch can take in your card but we do NOT process RMA in our branches. All must be send back to our HQ. So you can send to our branch but you need to wait. Best is to courier direct to our HQ in PJ (click link below). Call our Gainward Product Manager Carlson 012-3118567 to put your case on priority. Please be patience. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. notworthy.gif


NEWS FLASH - WAREHOUSE CLEARANCE FOR GAINWARD USERS
We are organising a Warehouse Clearance day just for Gainward users in our PJ HQ. There will tons of IT products to clear (MP3, MP4, Cameras, Digital Cameras, DV, Webcam, Accessories, Networking products etc etc) at dirt cheap prices. Watch out for our announcement here soon.

Welcome all new Gainward users to the club! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 15 2008, 09:31 PM)
No cooper heatpipes for Gainward 4870 GS, all nickel plated heatpipes. See these links for more info:


Welcome all new Gainward users to the club!  rclxms.gif
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hi scanart , so there is no 1st batch or 2nd batch for 4870gs ,all is same ma?

thanks for ur reply 1st~ rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(commandboy @ Nov 15 2008, 09:46 PM)
hi scanart , so there is no 1st batch or 2nd batch for 4870gs ,all is same ma?
thanks for ur reply 1st~ rclxms.gif
Of course there are 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th so on and on for ALL products mah. If no batches, that means no sales lar, goods stuck.

Anyway, don't worry so much. There are plenty of 4870 GS users here, read the whole thread yourself. We do not have any batch issue with Gainward 4870.

Furthermore, it's Gainward practice to continously improve all their products if possible. That's why you see such an awesome batch of Gainward 4850 GS recently, supercool and superfast.
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Scanart, please release an update regarding Gainward's 4830 as soon as the news is leaked. Thank you! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 15 2008, 09:56 PM)
Of course there are 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th so on and on for ALL products mah. If no batches, that means no sales lar, goods stuck.

Anyway, don't worry so much. There are plenty of 4870 GS users here, read the whole thread yourself. We do not have any batch issue with Gainward 4870.

Furthermore, it's Gainward practice to continously improve all their products if possible. That's why you see such an awesome batch of Gainward 4850 GS recently, supercool and superfast.
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thanks for ur reply, yeah as i heard too , gainward 4850gs most fast n cool atm...


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mine 4850GS idle @ 40 celsius nia

Fantastic !!

but my CPU AMD X2 4000 @ 2.7Ghz only hhahahah

Still very smooth game for Far Cry 2@ Very High Setting.

*Going to test COD5 tomolo, just finish *ahem*.
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nice nice, welcome to gainward club lol....

u tried vantage edi?
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And how do I do that? lol
Can gimme a step by step or redirect me to a how-to?
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Er, nope...
And how do I do that? lol
Can gimme a step by step or redirect me to a how-to?
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urs gainward sure bundle with 3d vantage right? download 3d vantage> http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmarkvantage/download/ > then key in the code that came with ur bundle > then run test in performance mod
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QUOTE(kcherng @ Nov 15 2008, 06:41 PM)
Hi,

I would like to know, is there any other option to RMA? say,
I notice there is a ScanArt branch in Johor (Batu Pahat), which is just opposite of my house.
It would be nice if I can just exchange in the Johor (Batu Pahat) branch.

BTW, what is RMA?
For this case, I could get 1 to 1 exchange right?

Thanks
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Hi!

You can send your Gainward VGA Card to our Batu Pahat Branch, our Batu Pahat Branch will send your card to our HQ for RMA.

Thanks! For your support.
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Someone pls clarify me that this for 4850GS 1GB, i have only

1) DVI to VGA connector
2) 6 pin to 8 pin converter?
3) DRIVER CD
4) USER Manual

Just the 4 item in this package, I have no 3d vantage with my package? Does the 512MB package come with DVI to HDMI converter? TQ
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No DVI-HDMI convertor for the 4850GS.

I think the Vantage is only for 4870GS isn't it?
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eh so many ppl here especially one fella with the signature so big about the 4870x2 wtb

nobody bought any yet..

tsk tsk tsk..


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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 15 2008, 09:56 PM)
Of course there are 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th so on and on for ALL products mah. If no batches, that means no sales lar, goods stuck.

Anyway, don't worry so much. There are plenty of 4870 GS users here, read the whole thread yourself. We do not have any batch issue with Gainward 4870.

Furthermore, it's Gainward practice to continously improve all their products if possible. That's why you see such an awesome batch of Gainward 4850 GS recently, supercool and superfast.
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sisshhh somebody doesnt understand ppl here meant batches as revision...

not as sales batch...

like duh


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 16 2008, 09:45 PM)
eh so many ppl here especially one fella with the signature so big about the 4870x2 wtb

nobody bought any yet..

tsk tsk tsk..
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i dont buy yet coz i still dont find what i needed..maybe GLH was it...

btw..why u seems like hate scanart soo much..mind sharing us ur stories?ur experience?
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Thank you celciuz for the HDMI converter. TQ biggrin.gif
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Just bought a 4670 for a customer. Not bad bad card, I would say. but-

- It does not come with DVI-Analog converter, S-video cable

- Has some fitment issues with certain casings. Like the In-Win Z series
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i think this thread should be put under price and dealer guide section . more promotion/advertisment then discussion. hmm.gif

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cstkl1,, because of rma process?
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM)
i think this thread should be put under price and dealer guide section . more promotion/advertisment then discussion.  hmm.gif
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nah.i dont think it like that...
more like a group of gainward and people who interested in gainward discussion..
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How much 4850GS now?
issit worth if i buy 1gb version?
becouse i just wanna play in 1280X800 res

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i read sumwhere that 1gb strength is when playing crysis...
correct me ig i'm wrong...but i know what i read lor...
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hmm, i though it's more for higher resolution? 1gb full potential can be unleash with 4870 due to GDDR5 biggrin.gif
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seems like i am the only person having problem with my 4870gs...
finish COD4 yesterday.. throughout the game i have more than 30 times driver crash.... 3 times BSOD... uhhh~~ scratch head.... now either turbo or normal mode can't even finish complete bench of 3dmark06 and vantage.. driver crash and benching stop... the crysis warhead same case..... the game i run most stable now is GRID which the driver still crashes but far less... and... play any game with 8x AA guaranteed BSOD. tested and confirm.. grid 8XAA very smooth still but after a while hang and BSOD.... RA3 same case.... if i remember correctly Mass Effect oso same case... going to RMA real soon... because now i still need to use the PC and no spare card i have to wait =.=
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Nov 17 2008, 03:35 PM)
hmm, i though it's more for higher resolution? 1gb full potential can be unleash with 4870 due to GDDR5 biggrin.gif
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haish...i'm talking on 1280*1024 reso boss... tongue.gif
and of cos 1GB ram is good for higher reso... smile.gif
but if he wanted to play on 1280, it can run smoother... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 17 2008, 04:08 PM)
seems like i am the only person having problem with my 4870gs...
finish COD4 yesterday.. throughout the game i have more than 30 times driver crash.... 3 times BSOD... uhhh~~ scratch head.... now either turbo or normal mode can't even finish complete bench of 3dmark06 and vantage.. driver crash and benching stop... the crysis warhead same case..... the game i run most stable now is GRID which the driver still crashes but far less... and... play any game with 8x AA guaranteed BSOD. tested and confirm.. grid 8XAA very smooth still but after a while hang and BSOD.... RA3 same case.... if i remember correctly Mass Effect oso same case... going to RMA real soon... because now i still need to use the PC and no spare card i have to wait =.=
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ur mobo dont have on board IGP?
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 17 2008, 03:19 PM)
i read sumwhere that 1gb strength is when playing crysis...
correct me ig i'm wrong...but i know what i read lor...
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i dont think there's major diff...usually the perf diff is noticeable at 1680x1050 or above...esp in the 1920x1200 section
jst completed ra3 with it brows.gif ultra high settings with 2xaa(with vertical sync)
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QUOTE(humanoid86 @ Nov 17 2008, 04:40 PM)
i dont think there's major diff...usually the perf diff is noticeable at 1680x1050 or above...esp in the 1920x1200 section
jst completed ra3 with it brows.gif ultra high settings with 2xaa(with vertical sync)
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I read it here bro...
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@serigala.. ermm noob question.. apa itu IGP?
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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 17 2008, 05:39 PM)
@serigala.. ermm noob question.. apa itu IGP?
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IGP = Integrated Graphic Processor
means on board graphic.

btw, did u OC processor or ram?
i suggest u lower ur ram speed & loosen the timing.
den test again if it crash.

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erm
stock.. non OC right now.. it's a corsair XMS2 DHX DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
it shows on cpuz that now it's on 5-5-5-15
and no IGP... it's a P45 board. biostar tpower i45

same case when i OC
same case when i am on stock
so...... any suggestion???
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card need to be RMA i think..just use any Pcie cards for a while..
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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 17 2008, 04:08 PM)
seems like i am the only person having problem with my 4870gs...
finish COD4 yesterday.. throughout the game i have more than 30 times driver crash.... 3 times BSOD... uhhh~~ scratch head.... now either turbo or normal mode can't even finish complete bench of 3dmark06 and vantage.. driver crash and benching stop... the crysis warhead same case..... the game i run most stable now is GRID which the driver still crashes but far less... and... play any game with 8x AA guaranteed BSOD. tested and confirm.. grid 8XAA very smooth still but after a while hang and BSOD.... RA3 same case.... if i remember correctly Mass Effect oso same case... going to RMA real soon... because now i still need to use the PC and no spare card i have to wait =.=
Sorry to hear about your card.

Before you RMA, can you please tell us:

1. When exactly you bought the card?

2. What mode are you using it, normal or turbo?

3. Do you know how to flash the BIOS youself, both normal and turbo?

Let us know and we'll see if it's a BIOS issue.

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purchase date on my receipt is 19/09/08 from skcs1985 - CEX

i tested both turbo and normal mode.. turbo mode from what i experience crash more often than normal mode.. normal mode still crashes

flashing bios? i tot just shut down the PC. change the mode.. boot the PC and the driver reinstall? correct.. this is how i switch between mode.. i shut down 1st.

and yes 8xAA on turbo and normal mode. sure BSOD.

any solution suggest pls.. or i going to send it back to skcs in a few days time.. i already told him what scanart told me to contact carlson saying i need the card back fast....
but still if there is any solution i am very welcome.... RMA the card meaning i dun get to game for sometime and that's..... devastating T_T



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hahn87, your PC specs? PSU especially. The card should not crash at Turbo/Normal mode.
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Yea, its better if you state down your rig , easier for the pro to troubleshoot for you smile.gif
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i'm planing to get a 4870, compare to saphire, is gainward better ?

can't wait to play tomb raider underworld smile.gif

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in dilemma now.

should i get;

a gainward GS 4850 512mb

or

a gainward 4830 with sunbeamtech core contact freezer / deepcool killerwhale cpu cooler?

cant decide.

i'm gaming on 22" LCD monitor and in the future, maybe intend to OC my proc.
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 17 2008, 11:36 PM)
3. Do you know how to flash the BIOS youself, both normal and turbo?

Let us know and we'll see if it's a BIOS issue.

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i state down my spec few times ady... nobody notice only
biostar tpower i45 motherboard
C2D E8600
4gb corsair xms2 dhx ddr2-800 4-4-4-14
cooler master real power pro 750w
4870GS
arctic cooling freezer extreme
500gb+320gb+80gb+40gb hdd
cooler master HAF932 casing with LOADS of fans.
pioneer dvd burner..

detail enuf? lol
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Nov 18 2008, 02:28 PM)
in dilemma now.

should i get;

a gainward GS 4850 512mb

or

a gainward 4830 with sunbeamtech core contact freezer / deepcool killerwhale cpu cooler?

cant decide.

i'm gaming on 22" LCD monitor and in the future, maybe intend to OC my proc.
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does flashing bios void the warranty?
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and if scanart says its ok then its ok lor
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Hi sifu out there may i know is better i upgrade my current proccesor from C2D E6300 to C2Q Q6600 to better utilise my 4850GS 1GB?
My E6300 slightly overclock to 2GHZ only(stock HSF). since i using 965P Gigabyte DS3 support to 1066FSB only biggrin.gif TQ


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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 18 2008, 03:35 PM)
i state down my spec few times ady... nobody notice only
biostar tpower i45 motherboard
C2D E8600
4gb corsair xms2 dhx ddr2-800 4-4-4-14
cooler master real power pro 750w
4870GS
arctic cooling freezer extreme
500gb+320gb+80gb+40gb hdd
cooler master HAF932 casing with LOADS of fans.
pioneer dvd burner..

detail enuf? lol
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ur spec dont have any prob..i think i already state that in version 1 of this thread..dont remember anymore...
try flashing the bios 1st then..
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QUOTE(pot @ Nov 18 2008, 04:00 PM)
Hi sifu out there may i know is better i upgrade my current proccesor from C2D E6300 to C2Q Q6600 to better utilise my 4850GS 1GB?
My E6300 slightly overclock to 2GHZ only(stock HSF). since i using 965P Gigabyte DS3 support to 1066FSB only biggrin.gif TQ
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hurm..if u only do gaming and u want to save more..u can get C2D proc E7200/E7300 shall do great...
but if u want to topup Rm200 extra and still wanna go Q6600 also good..
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QUOTE(pot @ Nov 18 2008, 04:00 PM)
Hi sifu out there may i know is better i upgrade my current proccesor from C2D E6300 to C2Q Q6600 to better utilise my 4850GS 1GB?
My E6300 slightly overclock to 2GHZ only(stock HSF). since i using 965P Gigabyte DS3 support to 1066FSB only biggrin.gif TQ
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if u're getting q6600, it would b quite a waste if u dun OC............
wat can i say, dis baby is meant 2 be OC......... thumbup.gif
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@serigala
mind to guide me on flashing the 4870 bios?
i google around dun have any guide oso...
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try to read here..hope it helps..
http://wccftech.com/forum/overclocking-mod...h-included.html
and also here
http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/17/37/
in case..
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1113/.html

but still..i dont recommend it much..better to just send it for RMA...

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QUOTE(rockysta @ Nov 18 2008, 11:13 AM)
i'm planing to get a 4870, compare to saphire, is gainward better ?

can't wait to play tomb raider underworld smile.gif
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yeah...i wanna know too... any comparison benchmark will be great...
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@serigala
lol seems like u just put a fullstop on my problem lol. concluded... RMA =.=
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QUOTE(rockysta @ Nov 18 2008, 11:13 AM)
i'm planing to get a 4870, compare to saphire, is gainward better ?

can't wait to play tomb raider underworld smile.gif
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cannot find comparison for gainward vs sapphire..
but i do find saphhire vs (the twin for GS) palit Hd4870 Sonic benchmark..

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1648/5/pa...card/index.html
but too bad it is 1GB vs the 512MB version...


Added on November 18, 2008, 5:33 pm
QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 18 2008, 05:13 PM)
@serigala
lol seems like u just put a fullstop on my problem lol. concluded... RMA =.=
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well..raise another question..if u RMA ur card,yet u dont have IGP..u already have spare GC?

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borrow a 6600GT from friend T_T no gaming.. argh... this gonna sux
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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 18 2008, 03:35 PM)
i state down my spec few times ady... nobody notice only
biostar tpower i45 motherboard
C2D E8600
4gb corsair xms2 dhx ddr2-800 4-4-4-14
cooler master real power pro 750w
4870GS
arctic cooling freezer extreme
500gb+320gb+80gb+40gb hdd
cooler master HAF932 casing with LOADS of fans.
pioneer dvd burner..

detail enuf? lol
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what a lousy system

lol


Added on November 18, 2008, 6:43 pmalso ps for 4870 to work on biostar properly

for the latest bios u have to enable a function..
cant remember what is..

but thats what that function is for
hd4870,8800gtx only has that issue
of hanging during 3dmark etc

geee and somebody wanted to flash the bios of ure card...

tsk tsk tsk..


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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 18 2008, 04:15 PM)
hurm..if u only do gaming and u want to save more..u can get C2D proc E7200/E7300 shall do great...
but if u want to topup Rm200 extra and still wanna go Q6600 also good..
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but i check gigabyte there stated not support E7000 series? even is only 1066FSB same with my current E6300 so izzit no problem to get that CPU? Q6600 beter than E7000 series?
I do gaming while BT. notworthy.gif Q6600 suite me more? what after market OC heat sink recommended for 'SLIGHTLY' OC? TQ
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bt doesnt stress the cpu at all...heck once my BT rig was only amd Duron 1.4GHz with geforce 4 mx440...
quad power more needed in rendering soft like autocad,photochop,video and audio editing..
quite hard to say E7x00 support or doesnt support coz some list doesnt updated..i always do trial and error method..

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oh so that guy just has a problem with his mobo la..biggrin.gif

not the GC prob..
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Nov 18 2008, 09:37 PM)
oh so that guy just has a problem with his mobo la..biggrin.gif

not the GC prob..
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which guy?
we have loads of guys here?happy.gif
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i has 4870 1gb and i is loving it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 18 2008, 09:41 PM)
which guy?
we have loads of guys here?happy.gif
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that hahn87 guy le..biggrin.gif not u sweetie..hehe tongue.gif

and btw, you IS right..hehe tongue.gif
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lol cstkl1...be nice...hehehe...

anyways it could be anything... i've never tried that much of mobo's before so i wouldn't know...

but since can RMA...why dont you try that one first? few days dont play game takkan pengsan wann...

haha..cheers...
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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 18 2008, 04:54 AM)
purchase date on my receipt is 19/09/08 from skcs1985 - CEX

i tested both turbo and normal mode.. turbo mode from what i experience crash more often than normal mode.. normal mode still crashes

flashing bios? i tot just shut down the PC. change the mode.. boot the PC and the driver reinstall? correct.. this is how i switch between mode.. i shut down 1st.

and yes 8xAA on turbo and normal mode. sure BSOD.

any solution suggest pls.. or i going to send it back to skcs in a few days time.. i already told him what scanart told me to contact carlson saying i need the card back fast....
but still if there is any solution i am very welcome....  RMA the card meaning i dun get to game for sometime and that's..... devastating T_T
Hi Hahn,

Let me be more specific. We have a batch of 4870GS (few pcs only) with unstable BIOS causing BSOD and from the date of your purchase, it looks like your card is from that batch.

That is why I ask if you know how to flash the 4870GS BIOS with the latest one from Gainward. If are you unsure, then just send it back for RMA. Please call Carlson once you have sent the card back to SKCS/CEX and tell him to flash it with the latest BIOS. Hopefully it will solve the card BSOD instantly so minimum delay for you.


QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 18 2008, 02:41 PM)
does flashing bios void the warranty?
Nope, we will be updating the card with the latest BIOS from Gainward. Thanks to Serigala, Celciuz and everyone who tried to help Hahn87 here. notworthy.gif
You are being noticed and appreciation will come soon... brows.gif
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Hey doods... and Serigala smile.gif just got my brand new silver heat pipe 4850 GS. yeeey. works like a charm with the new 8.11 Catalyst buuuut... as always I have a problem. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to set the display on my tv. it shows black. i`ve tried everything: clone, extend, even each PAL settings on the list but the tv still shoes black. Now, i know the tv-out is not broken, since the booting process does display on the tv (mobo boot logo, windows xp loading) up until the part i have to sign in my user account. then, the tv goes black again. the lcd works perfect, the tv... not so much.

Any of you guys... and Serigala smile.gif encountered this problem?
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QUOTE(Zan @ Nov 19 2008, 02:44 AM)
Hey doods... and Serigala smile.gif just got my brand new silver heat pipe 4850 GS. yeeey. works like a charm with the new 8.11 Catalyst buuuut... as always I have a problem. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to set the display on my tv. it shows black. i`ve tried everything: clone, extend, even each PAL settings on the list but the tv still shoes black. Now, i know the tv-out is not broken, since the booting process does display on the tv (mobo boot logo, windows xp loading) up until the part i have to sign in my user account. then, the tv goes black again. the lcd works perfect, the tv... not so much.

Any of you guys... and Serigala smile.gif encountered this problem?
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adjust the refresh rate & resolution.
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nope. still not working 1280x1024 on the lcd and 1024x768 on the tv
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tv or lcd tv?
if TV(normal big-ass,heavy) u have to set the resolution to lowest..try go for 640x480..
black screen tv usually caused by resolution..

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my 4870gs brought at november , now at drawer already ... -.-
if no issue still need to flash bios? cuz i sold my rig , as cs said , i going to buy biostar Ti45 , will i hit the same thing as han87 face?
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QUOTE(picksickrick @ Nov 18 2008, 11:27 PM)
lol cstkl1...be nice...hehehe...

anyways it could be anything... i've never tried that much of mobo's before so i wouldn't know...

but since can RMA...why dont you try that one first? few days dont play game takkan pengsan wann...

haha..cheers...
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well i have tested most of almost all the bioses for hd4870
well i know most of the FAE's. duh...

the early batches of hd4870 bioses has the tightest gpu mem timings.
the later had loosen..

what does this mean..
even if u clock the card mem so much ure gain is less. it was done because of the core restriction.
theres a bus like interface on the gc that works with the gpu core..
thats y it was loosen sm3 scores..

the most wanted bios is still the asus top versions..
this have tight mem timings and high vcore potential..
again asus did a magic....as always.

the 1gb has tighter mem timings..
how to check via benching..
look at ure mem clocks on 3dmark06

its not a gc bios issue...

again for t-power bios u need to enable this function...
cant remember cause was benching with that mobo like few months ago... and from then till now already had more than 10 motherboards...
cant remember every motherboard bios...

the t-power has a crossover issue with certain gc.
the notable one was the hd4000 series and 8800gtx during the early test of of the bios
it was resolved later. with that extra function in the bios.
was benching the mobo with a few hd4000's and it always fails 3dmark06 until that bios came out.

try that first...
u may find it in my signature forum somewhere..

also the rampage extreme also suffers some stability issue on high clocks/ram speeds when tried with HD4000..
gtx280/260 much easier

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QUOTE(Zan @ Nov 19 2008, 02:55 AM)
nope. still not working 1280x1024 on the lcd and 1024x768 on the tv
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hmm, or another setting..Detect whenever CCC is opened. Did u try this? Btw which 1 did u use actually? DVI?
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QUOTE(rockysta @ Nov 18 2008, 11:13 AM)
i'm planing to get a 4870, compare to saphire, is gainward better ?

can't wait to play tomb raider underworld smile.gif
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get the gainward gs4870 512mb for sure...get 1gb if u have xtra budget, sapphire's toxic seems to be a good deal but i bet the price will definitely be higher den gs
tomb raider underworld..isit any good?anyone has played the game yet..
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 19 2008, 07:06 AM)
try Force Tv detection setting
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I`ve tried that too. but as i said: the tv is shown on the list of devices, only no picture.

I could try the 8.10 Catalyst but i`m affraid i`ll lose my FarCry 2 maxed out settings biggrin.gif


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tv or lcd tv?
if TV(normal big-ass,heavy) u have to set the resolution to lowest..try go for 640x480..
black screen tv usually caused by resolution..
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it is normal big-ass heavy, but it worked with my other 4850, no problem, all the more reason the problem escapes me

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hmm weird, i got mine working on HD3870

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QUOTE(Zan @ Nov 19 2008, 02:44 PM)
I`ve tried that too. but as i said: the tv is shown on the list of devices, only no picture.

I could try the 8.10 Catalyst but i`m affraid i`ll lose my FarCry 2 maxed out settings biggrin.gif


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it is normal big-ass heavy, but it worked with my other 4850, no problem, all the more reason the problem escapes me
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different cards different capabilities..also different drivers...
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so should i downgrade the driver? is that what you`re saying?
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pikacu, i have euro-scart cable


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hmm, wonder is it because of the cable?
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it can`t be. as i`ve said before, it worked just fine with the other cards.
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hmm,did u try other cables?
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last driver that worked is 8.10 rite?
now u use 8.11?
worth a shot to try 8.10..

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QUOTE(humanoid86 @ Nov 19 2008, 02:24 PM)
get the gainward gs4870 512mb for sure...get 1gb if u have xtra budget, sapphire's toxic seems to be a good deal but i bet the price will definitely be higher den gs
tomb raider underworld..isit any good?anyone has played the game yet..
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the sapphire toxic has higher price? performance wise between both? temps?
just want to ask cause if in the case of 4850GS and 4850 Toxic temps wise, the GS is much lower, and 2nd in line of temps is HIS 4850 IceQ4
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ok. thanks for all the help. will see if it does the trick.
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@cstkl1
you started the tpower thread 1 marh. haha i've been posting there having problem with my board not posting at all if direct power on after shut down thing.
err what function on the motherboard i have to check? the ONE menu there the clockgen part the PCI-E speed need to change? i tried change just to 110mhz the motherboard wont post at all.....
oh yah.. how lousy is lousy do u mean of my system tongue.gif

@serigala
the bios i gave me is the Asus TOP edition punya.... so now i need to flash to the asus top version or the later gainward 4870gs bios
anybody can link me to the bios of the lastest 4870GS i can i would really like to do it myself before sending to SKCS1985.. coz i am from penang and it would be an hassle to courier back to them .

really really appreciete u guys's help..
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Nov 19 2008, 04:36 PM)
the sapphire toxic has higher price? performance wise between both? temps?
just want to ask cause if in the case of 4850GS and 4850 Toxic temps wise, the GS is much lower, and 2nd in line of temps is HIS 4850 IceQ4
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erm...infact sapphire toxic is not even available at our market yet...correct me if i'm wrong..perf wise shd be abt the same and temps also...my gs4870 idles at 43celcius and abt 60 under max load, it works fine for me...i suppose sapphire cant offer such competitive pricing as compared to gs

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QUOTE(humanoid86 @ Nov 19 2008, 06:37 PM)
erm...infact sapphire toxic is not even available at our market yet...correct me if i'm wrong..perf wise shd be abt the same and temps also...my gs4870 idles at 43celcius and abt 60 under max load, it works fine for me...i suppose sapphire cant offer such competitive pricing as compared to gs
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4850 toxic is at LYP, but not sure for 4870 toxic
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that just guide and soft needed to do bios flash..
next to find a GS bios version..i will try to google it up later
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 19 2008, 07:35 PM)
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that just guide and soft needed to do bios flash..
next to find a GS bios version..i will try to google it up later
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upload it to techpowerup la.
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done. reinstalled 8.10 then reinstalled 8.11, and now all is well in the world. thank you all and enjoy your evening/day smile.gif
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done. reinstalled 8.10 then reinstalled 8.11, and now all is well in the world. thank you all and enjoy your evening/day smile.gif
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good to hear that..confirm driver compatibility..

still no luck in finding the bios file for GS..only find for normal gainward..any1 have a lead or hint?

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or anybody with the latest batch can extract the bios for me?
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found it... han87

thats the one..

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so i just enable the FSB fine tune on ONE? i go try it now~~~
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is ures the 1gb version or 512mb version??

also have the latest from the FAE.

u want the stock or the latest.


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I hv 4870 on my pc and im using 2 LCD..One is on extended windows (not clone mode). When i switch off and on 1st LCD monitor, 2nd LCD will blink few times..If im playing a movie on that extended screen, it will blinks and crash sometime.. Anyone know solution for this?

B4 this im on nvidia card n no such issue..

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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 19 2008, 08:55 PM)
good to hear that..confirm driver compatibility..
still no luck in finding the bios file for GS..only find for normal gainward..any1 have a lead or hint?
Gainward 4870GS latest BIOS is with us. For obvious reasons, we do not share it out. We managed to solve 2 cases of 4870GS BSOD in Sep by flashing to the new BIOS as recommended by Gainward. We are not entirely sure if Hahn87 case is similar but that will be the first thing we do after testing/checking the card (if he RMA it).

Please people, do not attempt to flash BIOS on your own. Thanks. icon_rolleyes.gif


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i am using the 512mb 4870GS
nood question: apa itu FAE?

Edit: FSB FineTune enable on my mobo didn't help... driver still crashes and reload

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Finally, Gainward HD4870 GS 1GB review : http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/11/1...golden-sample/1

Nvidia is manipulating reviews? : http://technologic.ysoserius.com/2008/11/n...ng-reviews.html

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hi..

gainward 4870 1gb GS user here

i noticed when i play red alert 3 there's A LOT of yellow dots on the grass ,

when i run ati tools also there's a lot of yellow dots when i click scan for artifact, the funny thing is the things keeps goin as it detects no artifact..

is it artifact or is it drivers?

i'm using the hotfix drivers for farcry 2 and fallout 3

my psu is coolermaster 550w true power sli ready

here's the pic

[attachmentid=679629]

[attachmentid=679631]


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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 20 2008, 04:45 AM)
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i am using the 512mb 4870GS
nood question: apa itu FAE?

Edit: FSB FineTune enable on my mobo didn't help... driver still crashes and reload
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FAE = Field Asist Engineer

before u go to ure gc is the fault etc etc
ure running on a overclocked system right
does this issue happen on stock??
and if overclock can u pass the 4 test that i posted in the biostar thread.


QUOTE(demeter @ Nov 20 2008, 09:57 AM)
hi..

gainward 4870 1gb user here

i noticed when i play red alert 3 there's A LOT of yellow dots on the grass ,

when i run ati tools also there's a lot of yellow dots when i click scan for artifact, the funny thing is the things keeps goin as it detects no artifact..

is it artifact or is it drivers?

i'm using the hotfix drivers for farcry 2 and fallout 3

my psu is coolermaster 550w true power sli ready
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that is a GC issue... must be faulty mem.
return it and screw them up.
set in ati tools setting the artifact scanning to the lowest...

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FAE = Field Asist Engineer

before u go to ure gc is the fault etc etc
ure running on a overclocked system right
does this issue happen on stock??
and if overclock can u pass the 4 test that i posted in the biostar thread.
that is a GC issue... must be faulty mem.
return it and screw them up.
set in ati tools setting the artifact scanning to the lowest...
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yea bro, i tested the mem at 500 using ati catalyst no yellow dots!!, yellow dots starts to show at 940++

argh gonna take this card out to rma

crap just bought the card last week -.-" , back to 7900 gs then, thank god i didnt sell this card haha , good old nvidia tongue.gif J/K

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yea happen on stock also.
i dun understand much about the FAE but i did prime my system for hours and it doesn't crash
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QUOTE(hahn87 @ Nov 20 2008, 12:37 PM)
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yea happen on stock also.
i dun understand much about the FAE but i did prime my system for hours and it doesn't crash
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and atitool artifact scanning??

whats ure psu btw


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hi..

gainward 4870 1gb GS user here

i noticed when i play red alert 3 there's A LOT of yellow dots on the grass ,

when i run ati tools also there's a lot of yellow dots when i click scan for artifact, the funny thing is the things keeps goin as it detects no artifact..

is it artifact or is it drivers?

i'm using the hotfix drivers for farcry 2 and fallout 3

my psu is coolermaster 550w true power sli ready

here's the pic

[attachmentid=679629]

[attachmentid=679631]
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hmm rma ure card dude

looks like faulty gc mem.


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how long the warranty for 4870 GS 1gb?
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lol u guys ask about my spec any PSU few times ady marh...
i even made my signature already of my spec
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going back to hometown leaving my PC in penang... be back in a few days for exam.... keep u guys posted..

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hi
how long the warranty for 4870 GS 1gb?
tq
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All Gainward GC are in 2 Years Warranty Bro icon_rolleyes.gif

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All Gainward GC are in 2 Years Warranty Bro  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Any 4850 owners playing COD5 noticing err white lines? I get those white lines between graphics, and only happened when I look at it at certain view. Using 8.11 and all stock clock also happen.

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Celciuz, i`m guessing it has to be an issue with 8.11. i already had problems with two outputs (monitor+tv) and now i`m noticing something weird in FarCry2: the FPS diminuish after long periods of gameplay (3h+) and shadings dissapear. hope the next catalyst will have better understanding of the ATI hardware smile.gif
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could be driver issue...celciuz...try reverting back to 8.10 see if it still happen?
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QUOTE(lingloong @ Nov 20 2008, 06:34 PM)
Hi, 
All Gainward GC are in 2 Years Warranty Bro  icon_rolleyes.gif

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tq

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Rather than the two year warranty offered by most AMD graphics partners, Gainward offers a full three year warranty on the card, although after the first year during which returns are handled by the original retailer, you’ll need to send the faulty card directly to Gainward’s office in Germany for an RMA at your own expense, but be advised absolutely any tinkering with the card will void the warranty, as some of the frankly epic photos on Gainward’s website demonstrate.


i read that at 4870GS review
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i'm quite confuse right now

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I wonder does the seller mean 1 year claim from the shop the rest I claim from Gainward ?
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Well, it's 2 years warranty for all Gainward products, you can send it back to the dealer or send direct to us (click on Scanart link below).
That 3 years warranty statement is only valid for Gainward Europe, specifically Germany.

HOT LAUNCH - AVAILABLE NOW!!

Here it is guys, the FASTEST VGA in the world: Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell thumbup.gif rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif drool.gif

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HI.. I'm back from my bz life and exam!!! time to spam!!! haha smile.gif so many updates till i barely even catches up with the trend... =.= anyway... 1 question 1st : Do the newest Cat support Hd4670???(not for me i've changed my mind to Hd4850 and ready to own 1 in the upcoming Pc fair)

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yes.....new Catalyst full support HD4670 smile.gif
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the latest one 8.11
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pikacu i saw ur name on the price winner... XD
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Hi guys I'm getting a 4850 soon so I'm not clear about the Gainward 4850 version. It seems that there are several batches of the card. Does this means that the early batch cards are faulty? How do we identify which one is the latest batch?
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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Nov 20 2008, 11:37 PM)
pikacu i saw ur name on the price winner... XD
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QUOTE(HeWasOnly3 @ Nov 20 2008, 11:43 PM)
Hi guys I'm getting a 4850 soon so I'm not clear about the Gainward 4850 version. It seems that there are several batches of the card. Does this means that the early batch cards are faulty? How do we identify which one is the latest batch?
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current batch doesn't suffer the known problem anymore.

to identify the latest batch, take a look at the cooler heatpipe color, the latest one colored silver
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4850 copper plated 1 is the older version... if the 4850 is nickel plated then it is the new batch... good choice choosing gainward... is the best there is... smile.gif go for GS version!!!


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laugh.gif i think that was in v1 thread hmm.gif
really??? i just saw my name on it... did u get the prize??? 1st time win a prize in just forum chatting and i had no idea how to collect it... anyway i pmed scanart... been soooooo and sooooooo long away from this forum due to exam... =.=

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Cool thx guys for the info. How bout the BIOS? I heard u guys kept updating them. What did they fix in the latest BIOS?
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Cool thx guys for the info. How bout the BIOS? I heard u guys kept updating them. What did they fix in the latest BIOS?
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humm, never seen any gainward HD4850 GS bios lurking around web.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(HeWasOnly3 @ Nov 20 2008, 11:51 PM)
Cool thx guys for the info. How bout the BIOS? I heard u guys kept updating them. What did they fix in the latest BIOS?
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i dun think or recall that there are problem on the BIOS... if so is those really really faulty and old mobo... nt sure thou


Added on November 20, 2008, 11:57 pmHooHoo... jsut tested RA3 on HD4670... graphic superb when AA on... it shld be even better when i get my hand on HD4850 on the upcoming PC fair!!! gainward again... long live gainward!!! XD

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i dun think or recall that there are problem on the BIOS... if so is those really really faulty and old mobo... nt sure thou


Added on November 20, 2008, 11:57 pmHooHoo... jsut tested RA3 on HD4670... graphic superb when AA on... it shld be even better when i get my hand on HD4850 on the upcoming PC fair!!! gainward again... long live gainward!!! XD
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Ic Ic. Wuah... nice card u got there..... I'm getting impatient already..... I'm stuck with my old 6800 gs even play Fallout 3 also laggy.... darn...
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QUOTE(HeWasOnly3 @ Nov 21 2008, 12:02 AM)
Ic Ic. Wuah... nice card u got there..... I'm getting impatient already..... I'm stuck with my old 6800 gs even play Fallout 3 also laggy.... darn...
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just wait a couple of weeks... then buy it on the PC fair... save a couple of RM to have a coffee at starbucks and admire ur new GC... haha
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QUOTE(Scanart @ Nov 20 2008, 10:49 PM)
Well, it's 2 years warranty for all Gainward products, you can send it back to the dealer or send direct to us (click on Scanart link below).
That 3 years warranty statement is only valid for Gainward Europe, specifically Germany.

HOT LAUNCH - AVAILABLE NOW!!

Here it is guys, the FASTEST VGA in the world: Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif  drool.gif

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

For more info, check out the awesome presentations below (click on the links):

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Gainward Rampage 700 GS Goes Like Hell - Fastest VGA in the world!
Available from our dealers nationwide (see below):

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Digital Mall PJ: My Computer System, Wawasan IT, Octavo and more soon...

LYN resellers: Moderno, CEX, LingLoong and Leh Teck
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How much this card would cost ???

Goes like hell ... Don't really like the name sweat.gif
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erm... any of the prize winner know how to collect the prize??? i'ma 1st time win such kind of prize... just forum chatting and won a Mp3... =.= any idea???
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erm... any of the prize winner know how to collect the prize??? i'ma 1st time win such kind of prize... just forum chatting and won a Mp3... =.= any idea???
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pmed... hope he reply me... so exited... 1st time won a prize via internet... XD
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Hello there Scanart biggrin.gif

I just bought TWO new Gainward 4850 Golden Sample cards from Cex yesterday. Will be arriving today rclxm9.gif


can't wait testing both of these babies out.. rclxms.gif
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Im using 4850 also... Golden sample to be exact.. Driver 8.11

I reach that campaign already but don't see any lines like yours o.O


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Any 4850 owners playing COD5 noticing err white lines? I get those white lines between graphics, and only happened when I look at it at certain view. Using 8.11 and all stock clock also happen.

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It only happens at certain angle, disappears when I turn the view a little. ._. Guess I will try to reinstall the driver first.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Nov 21 2008, 01:03 AM)
Hello there Scanart  biggrin.gif

I just bought TWO new Gainward 4850 Golden Sample cards from Cex yesterday. Will be arriving today  rclxm9.gif
can't wait testing both of these babies out.. rclxms.gif
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RM2350 is the price?

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wow, that's a lot expensive then i thought
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wow, that's a lot expensive then i thought
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the asus hd4870x2 tri fan edition is only rm1900++
somemore with free game...

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 21 2008, 11:35 AM)
kekekek this what happens when scanart takes over
the asus hd4870x2 tri fan edition is only rm1900++
somemore with free game...
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Huh ... probably you can enlighten me on the take over thingy .. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 21 2008, 11:35 AM)
kekekek this what happens when scanart takes over
the asus hd4870x2 tri fan edition is only rm1900++
somemore with free game...
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wow that's quite a lot of price difference.. shocking.gif .

performance wise i think not that "Hellish" between asus and gainward.

hmm hmm.gif y gainward so expensive. 4850gs im getting is ok price and comparable to ice4 and toxic, but y this one is so much difference? popularity contest maybe? sweat.gif


btw, serigala...what do you think..two 4850gs..woohoo biggrin.gif...just got it and my new rig..woohoo


any 4850x2 yet???

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lol yet another person interested in 4850X2 hehehe
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yeah hoo, very soon will become part of gainward 4870 member too... already ordered but no stock atm until next week ...

btw advertise a bit, gonna let go my existing sapphire 4850 ,pm me who interested ...
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RM2350 versus RM1799 (Gainward reference 4870x2). Wonder if the performance increase justifies the RM550 increase or not though.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 21 2008, 04:34 PM)
RM2350 versus RM1799 (Gainward reference 4870x2). Wonder if the performance increase justifies the RM550 increase or not though.
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who cut me in a traffic jam in my lane

feel like going out and clapping to him..
yup ure 30 secs faster infront of me..


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if below 2k i should have received it by now..but..2.3k... happy.gif
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the price will keep drop , so serigala , dont wry about it , about below 2k its quite imposible in 1 month... 2.2k is posible ... 2350 price is nt firm ... pm me for the price... the real price i cnt tell at here... later kena bomb by some1.. -.-

double post again sry

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actually myself also wont buy such exp d card la.... siao neh... but ... if i sold some.. i got some money also ma hahaha.... i dn wan fight with money... =(
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price not really the issue if the performance is good

but dvi and vga ..

wheres the gun shooting smiley...

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register... cnt online bank ... limit rm 500 , bla bla bla ai yer ... -.-
the price 2mr will drop a bit again... so .. stay tune tongue.gif
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gainward keep releasing godly cards... and gainward 4870x2 is too expensive... it almost cost = a regular computer/laptop... really hoping to see its performance real time...
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may i ask price for gainward raise up ??? how much difference? 4850gs before n after ; 4870gs 512 before n after ?


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before : Gainward HD4850 GS ~RM650 , now RM665 (512MB model)
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I saw rampage 700 in a store today. The only card available in whole LYP. Lol.
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what is the price? :0


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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 22 2008, 12:24 AM)
what is the price? :0
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How much is 9800gtx+ 512mb and 1gb?
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around 700 for 512mb version and ~800 for 1GB version..
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WTA..how much can a 4850 512 MB GS be overclocked more ?
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9800gtx+ too expensive, I am considering 4850, but I saw many problems with ATI on internet, is it really that much problem with ATI? I don't want buy a RM 600+ card then later got display problem or crash during gaming.
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QUOTE(kok_hui @ Nov 22 2008, 12:53 AM)
I am considering 4850, but I saw many problems with ATI on internet, is it really that much problem with ATI?
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QUOTE(kok_hui @ Nov 22 2008, 12:53 AM)
9800gtx+ too expensive, I am considering 4850, but I saw many problems with ATI on internet, is it really that much problem with ATI? I don't want buy a RM 600+ card then later got display problem or crash during gaming.
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Any sources to those problems? Internet aren't full reliable you know?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 22 2008, 01:00 AM)
because you don't see enough of problem with nvidia laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kok_hui @ Nov 22 2008, 01:03 AM)
I am using nvidia now, no problem at all.
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i use both ati and nvidia now, both also no problem, can i say ati and nvidia have no problem at all? tongue.gif

for ur question , what kind of problem that u see on internet? mind to describe?
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 22 2008, 01:06 AM)
i use both ati and nvidia now, both also no problem, can i say ati and nvidia have no problem at all? tongue.gif

for ur question , what kind of problem that u see on internet? mind to describe?
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I can't remember, something like not compatible with some games. You sure no problem at all? Then I straight get the 4850.
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at my side, no problem at all. not sure for others, different system, different problem can occur sweat.gif

can provide the links for the problem? never heard "incompatible with some games" problem..
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QUOTE(kok_hui @ Nov 22 2008, 01:09 AM)
I can't remember, something like not compatible with some games. You sure no problem at all? Then I straight get the 4850.
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every GC also has bug.
go 2 AMD, on the ATI driver page, u can c the list of bugs.

as far as i'm concern, every major bug found on games will definitely b immediately fix by hotfix & the follow up driver.

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QUOTE(king99 @ Nov 22 2008, 12:53 AM)
WTA..how much can a 4850 512 MB GS be overclocked more ?
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 21 2008, 05:04 PM)
the difference reminds of some guys

who cut  me in a traffic jam in my lane

feel like going out and clapping to him..
yup ure 30 secs faster infront of me..
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add a rm100 more and u get another 4850..thats how much more expensive it is compared to normal 4870x2
my opinion, get the normal 4870x2 then buy a good 3rd party heatsink for a lower price..

man that's expensive but for "guys" who have the money ok la. i cant say notin bout that..the card looks phenomenal physically though

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Nov 22 2008, 12:15 PM)
add a rm100 more and u get another 4850..thats how much more expensive it is compared to normal 4870x2
my opinion, get the normal 4870x2 then buy a good 3rd party heatsink for a lower price..

man that's expensive but for "guys" who have the money ok la. i cant say notin bout that..the card looks phenomenal physically though
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the only good 3rd party heatsink for HD4870 x2 is watercooling block..
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 22 2008, 04:52 PM)
the only good 3rd party heatsink for HD4870 x2 is watercooling block..
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and for those who actually knows how to do a watercooling setup...
get a better water cooling pump and tubes
not a thermaltake bigwater crap

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just sharing d info...cheers...

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price drop again ya... but water cooling really better then fan a ? @.@

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afaik thundermatch dropped gainward..

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Hello,

A friend of mine have bought Gainward 4850 Golden Sample edition, had it for more than 3 month already but now when I play games, the screen keep on blinking for every 5 second. is it becau of my power supply doesnt support anymore ?

PC spec

Amd Phenom 9550 2.20
Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3
RAM 4GB
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Gigabyte PSU 550.



Please do assist me.

P/s: he say one of the capasitor of the GC is already burn, but the GC still able to function and the problem exist long before the capasitor went kong.

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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 22 2008, 07:13 PM)
haha..whats with the hate?
some thermaltake items are functioning well..just dont like radiator and cpu block..the aquabay m5 pump and the reservoir are quite cool..works well..better than i get CM aquagate^_^
i and some people here starts with bigwater 735..upgrade bit by bit..
water cooling also have it own downside..
i have to mod a fan to cooldown my mobo..especially the northbridge area..
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hmm change ure pump dude and get better tubes
and heck while ure at it get better rads...
hell change the whole WC setup...

good WC setup will last forever..
ure case not consider a upgrade..
u need a full change.

QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 22 2008, 07:16 PM)
what do u mean by that??
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dunno the other day heard they are going to drop gainward from a few vendors. who spoke to their management
not sure true or not.

oh yeah my usually rounds in lyn
go to all it.. to see their pricing and any weird interesting stuff they are selling..
usually buy accessories from them.
then once in a while go top floor.. and regret many times wasting energy going to thundermatch
then go to ate.. have a few laughs..
then pczone.. again have a few laughs...on what they dont have and ask the staff can i buy a ferrari here since u guys like to put everything to back to back order..
then czone.. usually they will have the latest but staff has no clue on what he is selling and by this time.. all the sarcasm has already no more in my body and mouth.. so will just tell they guy dont bother me...
then viewnet.. to see good deals.. they usually have on lcd's..
then only drop to cycom for some serious hardware...



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seems like alot of reports about GS's faulty card..
i'll be looking else where..
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QUOTE(mkyo3 @ Nov 22 2008, 07:05 PM)
Hello,

A friend of mine have bought Gainward 4850 Golden Sample edition, had it for more than 3 month already but now when I play games, the screen keep on blinking for every 5 second. is it becau of my power supply doesnt support anymore ?

PC spec

Amd Phenom 9550 2.20
Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3
RAM 4GB
Window Vista
Gainward 4850GS
Gigabyte PSU 550.
Please do assist me.

P/s: he say one of the capasitor of the GC is already burn, but the GC still able to function and the problem exist long before the capasitor went kong.
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blinking? seems to be refresh rate issue
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 22 2008, 07:24 PM)
hmm change ure pump dude and get better tubes
and heck while ure at it get better rads...
hell change the whole WC setup...

good WC setup will last forever..
ure case not consider a upgrade..
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wtheck..stop...happy.gif
i'm already using 240mm rads..full copper..1 coolermaster 90 cfm fan and another Delta 190cfm fan..
my tubes are a good 1 already..
500lph pums already good..dunt want to get a 1200lph pump coz i dont have any socket outlet anymore...dont hate bigwater soo much..not everything perfect..bigwater also have their own good stuff..
been running it 7 days a week 24 hours a day for 5 months now..no prob,no leaking..just need to clean the rads monthly..

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off topic ,
this is the first time I see a person who praise big water is sooo good.

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Nov 22 2008, 07:53 PM)
off topic ,
this is the first time I see a person who praise big water is sooo good.
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for me it is not that good..but it served well for budget wc setup..
i dont like the cpu block actually..gigabyte 1 do the job better..swiftech the best i have ever use..
the pump and reservoir worked well..

the 2nd batch for bigwater use larger tubes and the copper waterblock are machined better
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 22 2008, 10:38 PM)
2nd batch of production solved some of these prob..and also,it use 3/8 tube..yup,i do admit the flaws of the cpu waterblock,not doing its job superbly..but it is good for a budget watercooling setup..note the word budget happy.gif

afterall i'm not planning to go hardcore on WC setup..i'm not saying TT is the best...but it works well for a budget watercooling setup..the pump are rated 500lph..if it is 400lph also ok already for me..not planning for power pump or super flow pump..

i have 2 TT cpu water block..1st production and 2nd production..i know the flaws of the 1st..yup..even on 500lph pump it show it is at its limit..leak a bit..but the 2nd production works better..way heavier than the 1st one..

i'm not comparing TT kits with some high end kits like swiftech,kailon or any high end WC setup la..i have done my research before deciding to buy an WC kit..i go for budget kit coz i just OC a bit..not like u OCs gurus...

and i'm more to solve what air cooling cannot provide me..stable cooling at 35C ambient temp(my room is super hot)..at my room temp,with aircooling my proc temp would jump to 50 at idle ..at stock speed...basic low-end WC kit can low my temp to 42c at idle and giving me room to OC a bit..

any1 wanna bash me more on wc kit?and plz..be gentle on words..this is a public forum..any bashing can take to PM happy.gif tongue.gif
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Exploding waterblock laugh.gif
Dube,do you know the 1st thing in pump is hmax,not l/hr??
If you build your rig on budget,get an air cooling,it will pwn tt

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Nov 22 2008, 11:32 PM)
Exploding waterblock laugh.gif
Dube,do you know the 1st thing in pump is hmax,not l/hr??
If you build your rig on budget,get an air cooling,it will pwn tt
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well..2nd production improved a bit..i already stated how the result when use air cooling..infact 1st i was using sunbeam CCF..but my room temp is 35c +-
aquabay M5 pump hmax?
i read from website,500Lph..
sos
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx...62&ID=1638#Tab1

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Nov 22 2008, 07:51 PM)
where u heard and see this fact?  unsure.gif
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v1,v2..other hardware threads..that's reported, god knows how many more unreported ones..
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why not discussing gainward already ? next week my 4870 will arrived,i be part of it , now like this?!
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v1,v2..other hardware threads..that's reported, god knows how many more unreported ones..
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eh please la, thats some of the card got problem only , dn god here god there ,
myself already bought 4 4850 , 2 4870 dint see any of my customer got problem???

and please , the waterblock shit , stop it
scanart , u think post no problem? you promoting la
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somehow we end up fighting each other..whats with the hate?
be at peace la..this is Gainward club..
lets make it a club..
sorry for any of my off-topic post before this..
have any1 try to cool down their card using after market air cooling?
some result?

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dn dare to change le.... warranty void how -.- .....
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then buy d cheapest one lor...
GS kinda overprice edy...
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QUOTE(serigala @ Nov 23 2008, 09:36 AM)
somehow we end up fighting each other..whats with the hate?
be at peace la..this is Gainward club..
lets make it a club..
sorry for any of my off-topic post before this..
have any1 try to cool down their card using after market air cooling?
some result?
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I hv no balls to try 3rd party cooler

QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 23 2008, 09:41 AM)
then buy d cheapest one lor...
GS kinda overprice edy...
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So where's ur long waiting 4850?
Last time when the 4850GS down to cheapest price u also din buy. doh.gif
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guy , girls, check this out,another nvidia fans... sad.gif

Gaming Today: GTX 260 V Radeon 4870
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?re...id=668&pageid=1

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Nov 23 2008, 09:46 AM)
I hv no balls to try 3rd party cooler
So where's ur long waiting 4850?
Last time when the 4850GS down to cheapest price u also din buy.  doh.gif
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waiting next month lor...
sekali dng GTA4...(hopefully).... rolleyes.gif
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hello? u guys do know that posting craps in my thread doesn't add to your post count? so stop flaming. keep everything in order
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 23 2008, 10:04 AM)
waiting next month lor...
sekali dng GTA4...(hopefully).... rolleyes.gif
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Gainward comes with GTAIV, lol its impossible la bro, coz i never seen gainward product bundles with games...
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no la...
what i meant was i want to buy 4850 with GTA4 game...
and maybe i'm not buying Gainward...
pricey!!..hehe
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Anybody here using Huntkey aka CariKunci PSU with 4850GS? Does you PSU starts to make hell of buzzing sound randomly?
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celciuz , 6000+ with ur huntkey , but mine is vpower , with HIS , no buzzing sound tongue.gif but 2mr sh can give u a fine answer
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Mine is like... idling also buzz, damn loud that time. Irritating -.- Is it normal for PSU or what? A while got a while don't have. Last time is during gaming, in menu or whatever when the FPS is damn high got buzzing. But that one is soft.. compared to this time ._.
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actually , u can try in other computer with ur gs , or use ur huntkey on other gc , or same 4850gs , or 4850gs with other psu... if u near me.. i can help.. tongue.gif i many huntkey vpower ahahaha
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 23 2008, 10:23 AM)
hello? u guys do know that posting craps in my thread doesn't add to your post count? so stop flaming. keep everything in order
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errr tis thread is yours??? -.-!!!! but can advertise gc selling in hardware... i thought is in garage sales... not here
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that post of lucifah came from kopitiam iianm...
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that post of lucifah came from kopitiam iianm...
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btw, hardware forum will soon be out of post count. so, those flamers will be gone and get their post count from somewhere else instead


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 23 2008, 01:53 PM)
nope. that post is specifically for those flamers and retards who thinks that they can increase their post count by starting a flame war in hardware forum

btw, hardware forum will soon be out of post count. so, those flamers will be gone and get their post count from somewhere else instead
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but is also wrong to advertise gainward selling in hardware section.. it should be in garage sales... tis discussing bout hardware and stuff.. not selling things... i also know wont increase count also here..
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post Nov 23 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 23 2008, 10:43 AM)
Anybody here using Huntkey aka CariKunci PSU with 4850GS? Does you PSU starts to make hell of buzzing sound randomly?
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What happen to your psu laugh.gif
Mine still no problem so far.
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post Nov 23 2008, 02:09 PM

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yes..please only discuss about the card...and yeah i'm using 3rd party cooler... it works fine
spideysam
post Nov 23 2008, 02:12 PM

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okk so how u guys find gainward gs 4850 card?? better than asus or sapphire gs??
pikacu
post Nov 23 2008, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 23 2008, 01:53 PM)
nope. that post is specifically for those flamers and retards who thinks that they can increase their post count by starting a flame war in hardware forum

btw, hardware forum will soon be out of post count. so, those flamers will be gone and get their post count from somewhere else instead
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i see, coz i saw similar post at kopitiam when semyon flames u laugh.gif

QUOTE(spideysam @ Nov 23 2008, 02:12 PM)
okk so how u guys find gainward gs 4850 card?? better than asus or sapphire gs??
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find in what term? quality or available location?

i think u r mistaken here, golden sample is gainward's, while asus is TOP, and sapphire is TOXIC.


sapphire 4850 toxic cooler is not as cool as gainward 4850 golden sample.

but if sapphire 4850 toxic vapor chamber cooler, that might be differ story (and i think vapor chamber cooler price is high than normal toxic)

and i ever see 4850 TOP card from asus , yet hmm.gif

and for available location, LYP is your best place..or garage sales

This post has been edited by pikacu: Nov 23 2008, 02:21 PM

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