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TSuzairi
post Oct 22 2008, 04:44 PM, updated 16y ago

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WELCOME To The TTT Club!! Enjoy your stay here!!

A present for all of you for succesfully launch of TTT V4.

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TTT Quick Guide 01 - Habitat Setup:
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TTT Quick Guide 02 - Lighting & Basking:
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TTT Quick Guide 03 - Food Source (Vege):
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TTT Quick Guide 04 - Teaching them to eat (Pellets -> Vege):
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TTT Quick Guide 05 - Determining the age :
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TTT Quick Guide 06 - Determining the gender :
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TTT Quick Guide 07 - Carapace problems counter measure:
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TTT Quick Guide 08 - Straight Carapace Length (SCL) How to measure:
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post Oct 22 2008, 04:46 PM

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Usefull Link :-

TTT V1

TTT V2

TTT V3


http://www.chelydra.org
http://www.chelonia.org
http://turtlepimp.com/
http://www.turtletimes.com
http://www.turtlesales.com/
http://www.turtleforum.com/
http://www.turtlepuddle.org/
http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/
http://www.empireoftheturtle.com/

Caresheet :-

Star Tortoise:
http://www.chelonia.org/articles/Geleganscare.htm
http://www.tortoisetrust.org/care/celegans.html
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Asian Leaf Turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Cyclmeyscare.htm
www.petco.com/caresheets/turtles/Turtle_AsianLeaf.pdf
www.asianturtle.org/htm/species_Cyclemys_dentata.html
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Red Eared Slider (RES):
http://www.brentozar.com/turtles/Frequentl...edQuestions.php (FAQ)
http://www.anapsid.org/reslider.html
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/elegans.html
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/redearsliders.htm
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Painted Turtle Caresheet:
http://www.smm.org/warnernaturecenter/prog...nted_turtle.php (FAQ)
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/chrysemy.html
http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLanding...nted_turtle.htm (Plenty of pics-Eastern Painted)
http://home.insightbb.com/~deenak/turtle.htm
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Map Turtle Caresheet:
http://www.unc.edu/~dtkirkpa/stuff/maps.html (Lots of reading)
http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/Care/miss...p-caresheet.htm
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Box Turtle Caresheet:
http://plato.phy.ohiou.edu/~mash/herp/boxturtlefaq.html (FAQ)
http://www.pogospals.com/pogospals/Box_Tur...ealth_Pg_1.html
http://www.pogospals.com/pogospals/Box_Tur...ealth_Pg_2.html
http://www.turtlepuddle.org/cuora/caresheet.html (Asian Box Turtle)
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Camboinensiscare.htm (Malayan Box Turtle)
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Terrapenecare.htm (North American Box Turtles (Terrapene)
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/TerrapenecareSZ.htm (Info and Pics)
http://www.boxturtlesite.org/ (Box turtle information page)
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Snapper Caresheet:
http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLanding...ping_turtle.htm (mostly pics)
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/macrocl.html (The Alligator Snapping Turtle)
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Spiny Softshell Turtle:
http://www.smm.org/warnernaturecenter/prog...hell_turtle.php (FAQ)
http://www.tortoise.org/archives/apalone.html
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/softshellcare.htm
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Stinkpot turtle:
http://gctts.org/WS/WS.php/Public/StinkpotTurtle
http://www.herpnet.net/Iowa-Herpetology/re...s/stinkpot.html
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Sideneck turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/acanthochelys_gallery.htm (Pics of different sidenecks)
http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/Care/cs-y...eadedamazon.htm (Yellow headed sideneck)
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Longneck turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/easternlongneck.htm (Eastern longneck)
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Musk Turtle:
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/sternotheruscare.htm
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Geochelone Sulcata:
http://sulcata-station.org/
http://www.anapsid.org/sulcata.html
http://www.chelonia.org/articles/sulcatacare.htm
http://africantortoise.com/




Something usefull :-

Metabolic Bone Desease (MBD)
http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/reptilesgen...metabolicbd.htm

Light and Heat
http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/reptiles/a/reptlightheat.htm

UV
http://dermatology.about.com/od/glossaryu/g/uvb.htm

Floating Plants

- Water Lettuce (Pistia stratiotes)
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- Water Hyacinth (Eichhornia crassipes)
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post Oct 22 2008, 04:47 PM

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Turtle & Tortoise Anatomy
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Turtle & Tortoise Terminology
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TTT Jargon

WC - Wild Caught
CB - Captive Bred
CH - Captive Hatched
LTC - Long Term Captive
SCL - Straight Carapace Length
RNS - Runny Nose Syndrome
MBD - Metabolic Bone Desease
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post Oct 22 2008, 04:47 PM

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Top 10 posters (sorted by V3 post counts):-

1. uzairi
2. SAMPERTH
3. Fat^Cat
4. beardiekid
5. dzi921
6. inexsis
7. slackerz
8. Jamien
9. blazin_fir3
10. JonYeap



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1. Drascox - V1
2. uzairi - V2
3. uzairi - V3
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post Oct 22 2008, 04:48 PM

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Welcome and enjoy yourself with TTT Thread V4. brows.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 04:56 PM

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post Oct 22 2008, 05:02 PM

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Hi nice to meet you guys.

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Hello V4
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post Oct 22 2008, 05:28 PM

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Gratz on V4
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hope to get my tort next year...
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can those star turtle keep outdoor?
will it be too wet"?
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post Oct 22 2008, 05:35 PM

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Its star "tortoise" bro, by the name you should already know that they should be kept on dry environment. Do your studies bro, if you got any problems just ask here we would glad to help you.
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QUOTE(pioneer411 @ Oct 22 2008, 06:28 PM)
Gratz on V4
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hope to get my tort next year...
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can those star turtle keep outdoor?
will it be too wet"?
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 22 2008, 06:35 PM)
Its star "tortoise" bro, by the name you should already know that they should be kept on dry environment. Do your studies bro, if you got any problems just ask here we would glad to help you.
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Indoor or Outdoor does not matter as indoor could be as humid as outdoor if the water bowl capsize or inapproperite substrate used ie mulch or bark ...etc
Outdoor could be as dry as you want it to be when you add a roof over and a high wattage basking light used !!

So as long as the right environment is provided most species can do pretty well in a country as humid as ours !!
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post Oct 22 2008, 07:16 PM

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YAY !! rclxm9.gif V4 is here ~ rclxms.gif Congrats ~

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v4 oledi..congrats!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 22 2008, 04:56 PM)
Hello...

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whooa, thats a nasty one. u want a piece of me? brows.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(xgambler @ Oct 22 2008, 07:23 PM)
whooa, thats a nasty one. u want a piece of me? brows.gif
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thats normal, tort never smilelah, tongue.gif, huhu

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post Oct 22 2008, 07:28 PM

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hi, where can i look for the v1 n v2?


Added on October 22, 2008, 7:29 pmnvr mind saw it

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QUOTE(xgambler @ Oct 22 2008, 07:28 PM)
hi, where can i look for the v1 n v2?


Added on October 22, 2008, 7:29 pmnvr mind saw it
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post Oct 22 2008, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 22 2008, 05:35 PM)
Its star "tortoise" bro, by the name you should already know that they should be kept on dry environment. Do your studies bro, if you got any problems just ask here we would glad to help you.
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thanks for remind...
be4 i keep as pet.. i will ask clearly be4 i made my purchase
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hehehhee

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QUOTE(pioneer411 @ Oct 22 2008, 07:48 PM)
thanks for remind...
be4 i keep as pet.. i will ask clearly be4 i made my purchase
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kind of interested where will u make ur phurchase , hehe brows.gif ,mind sharing? tongue.gif
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post Oct 22 2008, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 22 2008, 06:05 PM)
Indoor or Outdoor does not matter as indoor could be as humid as outdoor if the water bowl capsize or inapproperite substrate used ie mulch or bark ...etc
Outdoor could be as dry as you want it to be when you add a roof over and a high wattage basking light used !!

So as long as the right environment is provided most species can do pretty well in a country as humid as ours !!
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Yes its true but that depends on individual specimen too as some might get RNS even with the proper environment ie humidity and etc what else outdoor tongue.gif

I said that because last time one of my st keep on having RNS even with the proper setup, others are doing fine without the RNS. Even with RNS the st still eat and pee/poo like there's nobody business LOL

QUOTE(pioneer411 @ Oct 22 2008, 07:48 PM)
thanks for remind...
be4 i keep as pet.. i will ask clearly be4 i made my purchase
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Its okay, just ask what u want and everyone here will help you.
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 22 2008, 06:05 PM)
Indoor or Outdoor does not matter as indoor could be as humid as outdoor if the water bowl capsize or inapproperite substrate used ie mulch or bark ...etc
Outdoor could be as dry as you want it to be when you add a roof over and a high wattage basking light used !!

So as long as the right environment is provided most species can do pretty well in a country as humid as ours !!
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mine they sleep indoors, no vivarium or uv light. wake up, after b'fast they'll go n walk outside to the soil, play under the sun rclxm9.gif , hide under the shade, eat some plants, then by evening they'll come back home by themselves. look healthy to me. the funny thing is, when 1 of them is hiding or missing in action, the other one would go round the house looking for it laugh.gif .
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Congratulations on v4

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Wow...V4 now and hope it's still counting...

ok...sending my troops in



yellow spotted river t.
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andersoni f. t.
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chicken t.
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yellow bellied slider
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Oct 22 2008, 11:13 PM)
Wow...V4 now and hope it's still counting...

ok...sending my troops in
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andersoni f. t.
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nice specimens u have there..i always planning to rear turtle,but no time and budget,ha3. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Oct 22 2008, 11:13 PM)
Wow...V4 now and hope it's still counting...

ok...sending my troops in
yellow spotted river t.

andersoni f. t.

chicken t.

yellow bellied slider
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Nice stuff bro! rclxms.gif
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Hi there guys,

For ST, difficult to get the humidity down to 40-50% even with Repti Glo Neodymium 50W basking light. The exoterra hygrometer is only reading 60% at best but the ST seems to be enjoying the heat smile.gif
75W feels too hot as I have another tight beam at 75W....so not using that for now. What are you guys mainly using? These buggers do get some natural sunlight 3-4 times a week for 1-2hours each time.

Cheers wink.gif
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Oct 22 2008, 11:13 PM)
Wow...V4 now and hope it's still counting...

ok...sending my troops in
yellow spotted river t.
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chicken t.
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yellow bellied slider
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nice terrapins........... except for this one

andersoni f. t.
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ph34r.gif damn ugly ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 23 2008, 08:43 AM)
nice terrapins........... except for this one

andersoni f. t.
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doh.gif ekekkekek...fell pity for him ~...turtles... always wanted to have them, i like to see them swimming n catches they prey, but to lazy to deal with water , to do maintenance n change it ~, huhu...someday may be, for now i just stick with non-swimming shelled reptiles, hehe tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Oct 23 2008, 05:30 AM)
Hi there guys,

For ST, difficult to get the humidity down to 40-50% even with Repti Glo Neodymium 50W basking light. The exoterra hygrometer is only reading 60% at best but the ST seems to be enjoying the heat smile.gif
75W feels too hot as I have another tight beam at 75W....so not using that for now. What are you guys mainly using? These buggers do get some natural sunlight 3-4 times a week for 1-2hours each time.

Cheers wink.gif
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50-60% is already ok bro, dont worry much.
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 22 2008, 04:44 PM)
WELCOME To The TTT Club!! Enjoy your stay here!!
A present for all of you for succesfully launch of TTT V4.
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uzairi, no new present one ka? olredi got dis one in V3 hehe tongue.gif

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hello !! ... I keep my star outdoor (5 inches above) so far so good ...
Now raining season will keep track their condition ... so far so good ..



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QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 23 2008, 04:57 PM)
hello !!  ... I keep my star outdoor (5 inches above) so far so good ...
Now raining season will keep track their condition ... so far so good ..
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hey, thats a big one, hmm.gif any offspring from them before?

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QUOTE(xgambler @ Oct 23 2008, 05:11 PM)
hey, thats a big one,  hmm.gif any offspring from them before?
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Not yet , I have one male 5 female ... thinking of give him some blue pill ... drool.gif

ps ...anyone have male st > 5 inches ..

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I have two terrapins before, olivia and david, my mummy set them free because too big alrdy, now got new turtle, the star turtle is niceee biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 23 2008, 04:57 PM)
hello !!  ... I keep my star outdoor (5 inches above) so far so good ...
Now raining season will keep track their condition ... so far so good ..
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nice tort bro, i see u also got leopard tortoise there wink.gif... they rilli got a nice home there biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 23 2008, 05:57 PM)
hello !!  ... I keep my star outdoor (5 inches above) so far so good ...
Now raining season will keep track their condition ... so far so good ..
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Very nice Star you have there !!
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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 23 2008, 08:43 AM)
nice terrapins........... except for this one

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eheh...that's the cutest i have you know...gosh...she would have been upset if she were to hear this cry.gif
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today i read in one website that tortoise can also have herpes infections shakehead.gif , is this true?

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QUOTE(xgambler @ Oct 23 2008, 08:17 PM)
today i read in one website that tortoise can also have herpes infections shakehead.gif , is this true?
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Ya possible but not on the Genital LOL

Mostly seen on the face and surround !!


I have not seen before above told to me by my fren !!

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QUOTE(duhknight @ Oct 22 2008, 11:13 PM)
Wow...V4 now and hope it's still counting...

ok...sending my troops in
yellow spotted river t.
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andersoni f. t.
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chicken t.
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yellow bellied slider
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Awesome Terrapins and Soft Shell!

QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 23 2008, 04:57 PM)
hello !!  ... I keep my star outdoor (5 inches above) so far so good ...
Now raining season will keep track their condition ... so far so good ..
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Wah. My favourite! i have 3 But i saw your previous pictures which are more of them + other sp. O.o




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QUOTE(Skatila @ Oct 23 2008, 04:00 PM)
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Oct 23 2008, 07:09 PM)
eheh...that's the cutest i have you know...gosh...she would have been upset if she were to hear this  cry.gif
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ha3,dun worry,everyone have their own interest and we must respect it..but i really admire 'ur cutest one'.nice turtle and terrapin u have there. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(babymina @ Oct 23 2008, 05:51 PM)
I have two terrapins before, olivia and david, my mummy set them free because too big alrdy, now got new turtle, the star turtle is niceee biggrin.gif
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In b4 star tortoise
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 23 2008, 05:17 PM)
Not yet , I have one male 5 female ... thinking of give him some blue pill ... drool.gif

ps ...anyone have male st > 5 inches ..
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Hey, if u ever successfully mate, sell one to me lah...
can't find star tort liau wei
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 23 2008, 06:17 PM)
Not yet , I have one male 5 female ... thinking of give him some blue pill ... drool.gif

ps ...anyone have male st > 5 inches ..
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They ( Male ) are quite rare above that size !! But I have seen 7 incher male !!

I managed to buy one off my fren at 6 inch !!

If you can come over ( Sabah ) to collect I can find you 5 - 6 incher Male easy ( virgin or proven )



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Can anyone amend the care sheet for Cherry heads? (Geochelone Carbonaria)?
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 24 2008, 09:52 AM)
Can anyone amend the care sheet for Cherry heads? (Geochelone Carbonaria)?
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Cut and paste you mean ?? What good is that ??

Might as well download/read it off the internet !! Better that way !!

As most owner have gone back into their closet or underground LOL

Just my view !!
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is Star still available on the market ?
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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 24 2008, 10:18 AM)
is Star still available on the market ?
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I thought there are some 3 incher being offered in Adpost.com ?? But price is too nice !!



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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 24 2008, 08:15 AM)
Hey, if u ever successfully mate, sell one to me lah...
can't find star tort liau wei
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They do lay eggs just that unfertilize .... I saw people selling 3 inches RM250 in penang recently ... but don't know still available or not ?
BTW from my experience male cannot last long ... haiz ...


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QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 24 2008, 10:27 AM)
They do lay eggs just that unfertilize .... I saw people selling 3 inches RM250 in penang recently  ... but don't know still available or not ?
BTW from my experience male cannot last long ... haiz ...
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What do you mean ? As in they get sick easier or ??
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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 24 2008, 09:18 AM)
is Star still available on the market ?
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i'm planning to get a pair and bring them out of the country, but im thinking whether is it worth the risk this time. any places still selling in k.l? whats the worst case senario if got caught at the airport sweat.gif ?
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is Star still available on the market ?
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well...there are 1 iklan selling star in mudah.com ~

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 09:37 AM)
What do you mean ? As in they get sick easier  or ??
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I also don't have any clue ... all my star is keeping in same environment and feeding with same food, somehow male are dying ... when reach 5 inches ...banyak sakit hati lar ...haiz cry.gif
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i'm planning to get a pair and bring them out of the country, but im thinking whether is it worth the risk this time. any places still selling in k.l? whats the worst case senario if got caught at the airport sweat.gif ?
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i dunno, but i think u will get caught, huhu, if u managed to pass at KLIA and the other country airpot, do tell us ur story biggrin.gif...worst scenario? 100k fine per tortoise head, jail? or maybe both? dunno, forgot the act... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 24 2008, 11:53 AM)
I also don't have any clue ... all my star is keeping in same environment and feeding with same food, somehow male are dying ... when reach 5 inches ...banyak sakit hati lar ...haiz  cry.gif
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Dying from sickness or ??

Maybe they keep think about the naughty stuff too much and forgot to eat and starve themselves to sickness LOL Joking !!
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QUOTE(Skatila @ Oct 24 2008, 10:56 AM)
i dunno, but i think u will get caught, huhu, if u managed to pass at KLIA and the other country airpot, do tell us ur story biggrin.gif...worst scenario? 100k fine per tortoise head, jail? or maybe both? dunno, forgot the act... tongue.gif
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actually i managed to get through before, at that time i didnt thought that it could be a serious matter tho. but having seen so many articles regarding the law being posted here, better think twice. find that the st are so cute the first time we saw them,jst bought them n flew them to my second home, didnt think much at that time. now i jst wanna add some friends to the existing pair, thats all.



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oh... i see, then its fine i guess smile.gif , cause we r pet owner, not seller tongue.gif , where is ur 2nd home?

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wah like that ah?
is female star bigger than males?
get female better loh ?

Anyone know if the pet shop in MV got sell?
monday i go check.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 24 2008, 03:07 PM)
wah like that ah?
is female star bigger than males?
get female better loh ?

Anyone know if the pet shop in MV got sell?
monday i go check.
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Ya Female Star grow faster and her maximum size is also larger !! If you dont believe me , try find 6 - 8 incher Male in private collection or those offered for sale and you will know !! But for female 8 to 10 or even 11 inch are quite "common" ( As if LOL )
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 09:08 AM)
Cut and paste you mean ?? What good is that ??

Might as well download/read it off the internet !! Better that way !!

As most owner have gone back into their closet or underground LOL

Just my view !!
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I mean like give me a link or something, i can't seem to find any proper care sheets for them.
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 24 2008, 05:25 PM)
I mean like give me a link or something, i can't seem to find any proper care sheets for them.
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Just treat them as Regular size Red Footed and you should find some / many !!


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My friend's setup ( only some are mine ) Will only get them back when they "harden" !!

Bought some few months back , a few are weak and when 2 died I assigned/board them to my friend till they are larger or tougher for beginer like me !!!

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 04:49 PM)
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My friend's setup ( only some are mine ) Will only get them back when they "harden" !!

Bought some few months back , a few are weak and when 2 died I assigned/board them to my friend till they are larger or tougher for beginer like me !!!
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 04:49 PM)
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My friend's setup ( only some are mine ) Will only get them back when they "harden" !!

Bought some few months back , a few are weak and when 2 died I assigned/board them to my friend till they are larger or tougher for beginer like me !!!
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how much for 1....???
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QUOTE(akuning @ Oct 24 2008, 06:56 PM)
how much for 1....???
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Mine not for sale !! My friend's one I think he selling RM 500 - 600 a pc locally as in Sabah !!

That picture taken few months back thus those picture are slightly bigger now about the 3 inch mark !!
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 04:49 PM)
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My friend's setup ( only some are mine ) Will only get them back when they "harden" !!

Bought some few months back , a few are weak and when 2 died I assigned/board them to my friend till they are larger or tougher for beginer like me !!!
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Cute, i might be getting one soon smile.gif

They live in humid enviroments right? So should i get a covered vivarium or a tub?
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 24 2008, 08:30 PM)
Cute, i might be getting one soon  smile.gif

They live in humid enviroments right? So should i get a covered vivarium or a tub?
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Covered vivarium ie Exo terra will hold the humid pretty well But tub work just as well as long as the right substrate is used

My friend use moss and peat mix in a tub !! Works well for him - in fact all his tropical sp's hatchlings are maintained this way !!


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Do you think they'll thrive well in a screen enclosure? but with the right substrate like peat moss?

Can i put 1 adult cherry head into a 4 ft tank? lol
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 24 2008, 10:09 PM)
Do you think they'll thrive well in a screen enclosure? but with the right substrate like peat moss?

Can i put 1 adult cherry head into a 4 ft tank? lol
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Just spray the enclosure often as our country is humid enough for them Just that those extra heat that we might provide will dry the enclosure a bit thus the supplement spraying to help maintain the humidity !!

Why not even adult Red footed can fit in a 4 ft tank just that substrate need spot cleaning more often as they poo a bit !!

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ha3,dun worry,everyone have their own interest and we must respect it..but i really admire 'ur cutest one'.nice turtle and terrapin u have there. thumbup.gif
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thanks dude...i appreciate that...

anyway...tortoises' gurus out there...im planning on keeping red foots as well...planning on expanding from turtles to tortoises...can they actually survive with those exo terra bulbs?

i'll start off with redfoot first...then i will get sulcatas and radiatas when my wallet is loaded...or should i change my sequence?
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 06:05 PM)
Mine not for sale !! My friend's one I think he selling RM 500 - 600 a pc locally as in Sabah !!

That picture taken few months back thus those picture are slightly bigger now about the 3 inch mark !!
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sad.....i only have 1....can i mate with u when grow up????(i mean tortoise)hahaha
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 09:49 PM)
Just spray the enclosure often as our country is humid enough for them Just that those extra that we might provide will dry the enclosure a bit thus the supplement spraying to help maintain the humidity !!

Why not even adult Red footed can fit in a 4 ft tank just that substrate need spot cleaning more often as they poo a bit !!
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Well then, i guess im ready for my red foot then biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 24 2008, 08:17 PM)
Covered vivarium ie Exo terra will hold the humid pretty well But tub work just as well as long as the right substrate is used

My friend use moss and peat mix in a tub !! Works well for him - in fact all his tropical sp's hatchlings are maintained this way !!
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Any problem with fungus ?
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 25 2008, 01:47 PM)
Any problem with fungus ?
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As fungus spores might be present !!

Treat your substrate first before use no matter the brand you might eventually choose !!

Depends on how you use them you might need to change the substrate often !!


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QUOTE(duhknight @ Oct 25 2008, 01:17 AM)
thanks dude...i appreciate that...

anyway...tortoises' gurus out there...im planning on keeping red foots as well...planning on expanding from turtles to tortoises...can they actually survive with those exo terra bulbs?

i'll start off with redfoot first...then i will get sulcatas and radiatas when my wallet is loaded...or should i change my sequence?
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You mean those UVB bulbs for Vitamin D3 ?? YA but result may differ !! Sun is still best !!

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You mean those UVB bulbs for Vitamin D3 ?? YA but result may differ !! Sun is still best !!
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So without using the bulbs, what is the best duration to keep them under sunlight?
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 25 2008, 05:18 PM)
As fungus spores might be present !!

Treat your substrate first before use no matter the brand you might eventually choose !!

Depends on how you use them you might need to change the substrate often !!


Added on October 25, 2008, 5:20 pm
You mean those UVB bulbs for Vitamin D3 ?? YA but result may differ !! Sun is still best !!
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What kind of treatment your friend use ? hmm.gif
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microwave on high for 10 minutes with oven preheated.
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Owh that one, heard that it is used widely for insects. Will try that once i have a microwave lol
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sunday is maintenance day... gotta clean my res enclosures..

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 26 2008, 01:44 PM)
sunday is maintenance day... gotta clean my res enclosures..

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wow, you do have a big house.
i have always wondering of house that can contain my pets like yours, cool... blush.gif


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Nice pics and discussion into v4.. =)
a bit lambat..long time no come lyn edi =P
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sham...RES enclosure only ke??
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 25 2008, 11:58 PM)
What kind of treatment your friend use ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 26 2008, 08:53 AM)
microwave on high for 10 minutes with oven preheated.
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Like what Camillenoir say heat treatment !!
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Yea, i tot the procedure is abit different lol
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QUOTE(lessilly @ Oct 26 2008, 06:25 PM)
sham...RES enclosure only ke??
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uh.. last time got albino ball there... but lepas in longkang oledi thumbup.gif

QUOTE(max-oasism @ Oct 26 2008, 02:05 PM)
wow, you do have a big house.
i have always wondering of house that can contain my pets like yours, cool... blush.gif
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my house is small only ma...

i thought sarawak easier to get land compared to peninsular smile.gif

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 22 2008, 10:14 PM)
Yes its true but that depends on individual specimen too as some might get RNS even with the proper environment ie humidity and etc what else outdoor tongue.gif

I said that because last time one of my st keep on having RNS even with the proper setup, others are doing fine without the RNS. Even with RNS the st still eat and pee/poo like there's nobody business LOL
Its okay, just ask what u want and everyone here will help you.
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wow...V4 alrdy....congrats.....i m trying to read all previous posts but still cant catch up tongue.gif

my ST also seems to have RNS all the time...as suggested by u all previously, i brought it to vet...it seems ok after taking medicine but after some time RNS back again... anyway, it is very active n eat a lot all the time... the other ST staying in the same enclosure is normal, no RNS... so, should i worry?? more medicine?? icon_question.gif
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where is your turtle dock/basking spot ?
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Just checked mid valley yesterday, damn disappointed... firstly, the shop is now 1 floor only from its previous 2 floor.
second, damn crowded. Third, no TTT whatsoever..... not even RES.

ain't going back there anymore.
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midvalley still have some pardalis, rm888.
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 26 2008, 12:44 PM)
sunday is maintenance day... gotta clean my res enclosures..

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wow, such a nice garden, thumbup.gif

camillenoir, what you put inside those aquariums?

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QUOTE(skim @ Oct 27 2008, 11:16 PM)
wow...V4 alrdy....congrats.....i m trying to read all previous posts but still cant catch up  tongue.gif

my ST also seems to have RNS all the time...as suggested by u all previously, i brought it to vet...it seems ok after taking medicine but after some time RNS back again... anyway, it is very active n eat a lot all the time... the other ST staying in the same enclosure is normal, no RNS... so, should i worry?? more medicine??  icon_question.gif
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allo! wut kind of cactus can be fed to the star tort? sumbody who has d knowledge please post sum pics of d said cactus..Thanx wink.gif
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QUOTE(LANuke @ Oct 28 2008, 10:47 AM)
wow, such a nice garden,  thumbup.gif

camillenoir, what you put inside those aquariums?
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thanks.

aquariums got fish.. red tail catfish, fire eel, etc.

QUOTE(peter pet @ Oct 28 2008, 12:28 PM)
allo!   wut kind of cactus can be fed to the star tort? sumbody who has d knowledge please post sum pics of d said cactus..Thanx wink.gif
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people usually give opuntia (prickly pear), which has less spines than other cactus.

got many species in the market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 27 2008, 02:27 AM)
uh.. last time got albino ball there... but lepas in longkang oledi  thumbup.gif
my house is small only ma...

i thought sarawak easier to get land compared to peninsular  smile.gif
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thats true, but i stay in hostel so no land is provided. even tanam ubi also kena curi already, so land is an issue to me currently. tongue.gif


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Just checked mid valley yesterday, damn disappointed... firstly, the shop is now 1 floor only from its previous 2 floor.
second, damn crowded. Third, no TTT whatsoever..... not even RES.

ain't going back there anymore.
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i dont know should i say this or not, few months back when i go there i saw horn frogs are damned expensive. i think its becuase of the business is hard to practice now adays.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 28 2008, 10:37 AM)
midvalley still have some pardalis, rm888.
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Yup, MV still have leopards at RM888 per pop..I think 4 left if my memory didnt fail.

Ironic why ST can't be traded with so many successful captive breeders in Msia, but the leopards can be openly sold.

CITES concept is just plain silly to me.

Anyway, the leopards there is kept together with a bearded dragon (same housing) using rabbit pellets as substrate...not our usual stuff

reccomended here...I happen to read a tortoise book in MV MPH that rabbit pellets are quite good as bedding as the torts enjoy digging a bit..

Wonder if Fat^Cat's "Cat Litter Recycled Paper" is still available at its usual place? Plan to get some..now using big wood chips...no smell though but

obviously not as soft and fluffy as recycled paper and I don't pile wood chips 10cm high wink.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Oct 28 2008, 10:21 PM)
Yup, MV still have leopards at RM888 per pop..I think 4 left if my memory didnt fail.

Ironic why ST can't be traded with so many successful captive breeders in Msia, but the leopards can be openly sold.

CITES concept is just plain silly to me.

Anyway, the leopards there is kept together with a bearded dragon (same housing) using rabbit pellets as substrate...not our usual stuff

reccomended here...I happen to read a tortoise book in MV MPH that rabbit pellets are quite good as bedding as the torts enjoy digging a bit..

Wonder if Fat^Cat's "Cat Litter Recycled Paper" is still available at its usual place? Plan to get some..now using big wood chips...no smell though but

obviously not as soft and fluffy as recycled paper and I don't pile wood chips 10cm high wink.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Leopards can be legally / openly sold due to them being imported legally thru CITES (Which I agree is just plain silly )
Be those Leopard CB or WC as long as the exporting countries can get a annual quota for them , the leopard can be traded !!!

On the other hand , WC Indian Star cant be imported legally due to India not allowing it !!

As for CB Star bred locally that cant be openly sold due to the breeding stock not having CITES import paper thus cant be legalised to breed CITES animals !! What a joke rite !!!

Thats why my fren went back into his closet to continue his illegal tortoise breeding activity !!
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 28 2008, 09:35 PM)
Leopards can be legally / openly sold due to them being imported legally thru CITES (Which I agree is just plain silly )
Be those Leopard CB or WC as long as the exporting countries can get a annual quota for them , the leopard can be traded !!!

On the other hand , WC Indian Star cant be imported legally due to India not allowing it !!

As for CB Star bred locally that cant be openly sold due to the breeding stock not having CITES import paper thus cant be legalised to breed CITES animals !!  What a joke rite !!!

Thats why my fren went back into his closet to continue his illegal tortoise breeding activity !!
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rclxms.gif Exactly...can't help but agree, but in a way, it does make the IST a more exotic pet with the ban on as much I dislike the way things are.

BTW, does radiata carapace pyramid once they get bigger? Yes, I read many articles online that radiatas don't pyramid naturally but has anyone despite good diet and UVB/D3 still get pyramiding?

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they said radiata carapace will form pyramid because thy starve it is it true ??
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MV sell leopard for RM 888?? RIPOFF!!!
ikano selling RM600 nia
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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Oct 28 2008, 09:21 PM)
Yup, MV still have leopards at RM888 per pop..I think 4 left if my memory didnt fail.

Ironic why ST can't be traded with so many successful captive breeders in Msia, but the leopards can be openly sold.

CITES concept is just plain silly to me.

Anyway, the leopards there is kept together with a bearded dragon (same housing) using rabbit pellets as substrate...not our usual stuff

reccomended here...I happen to read a tortoise book in MV MPH that rabbit pellets are quite good as bedding as the torts enjoy digging a bit..

Wonder if Fat^Cat's "Cat Litter Recycled Paper" is still available at its usual place? Plan to get some..now using big wood chips...no smell though but

obviously not as soft and fluffy as recycled paper and I don't pile wood chips 10cm high wink.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

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hurmm... wondering, they use rabbit pellets or breeder celect?
both looks almost alike.
maybe u differentiate wrongly.
but if they use rabbit pellets then i have no say.

cat litter reclycled paper is also called breeder celect rite?
if i am not wrong.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Oct 30 2008, 10:22 AM)
MV sell leopard for RM 888?? RIPOFF!!!
ikano selling RM600 nia
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the one in ikano is A. horsfeldii. Not a sulcata variant but a completely different species.

and i wouldn't buy any leopard from ikano, they keep on giving fruits (usually papaya) even though i've been telling them not to for years.

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reccomended here...I happen to read a tortoise book in MV MPH that rabbit pellets are quite good as bedding as the torts enjoy digging a bit..


jon is right... it is not recommended actually.

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MV sell leopard for RM 888?? RIPOFF!!!
ikano selling RM600 nia
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I think it was called "four footed tortoise" as they wrote there, looks really ill.

If you think 888 is expensive, you haven't seen expensive. Some geckos go for 10k.. =.=

OOT, what was the gecko morph? =.=
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here TTT thread...not gecko thread...
gecko will not worth as much as an angonoka or any other rare species..
in TTT people usually prefer getting ORIGINAL rather than morphs..
like T- and T+ sulcata...it worth more than 10k each.
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Normal yniphora cost more then 10k already tongue.gif
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 30 2008, 09:21 PM)
I think it was called "four footed tortoise" as they wrote there, looks really ill.

If you think 888 is expensive, you haven't seen expensive. Some geckos go for 10k.. =.=

OOT, what was the gecko morph? =.=
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mutation gecko is called morph.

free dictionary says--> One of various distinct forms of an organism or species


Added on October 30, 2008, 8:51 pmwhats t- and t+?

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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 30 2008, 09:21 PM)
I think it was called "four footed tortoise" as they wrote there, looks really ill.

If you think 888 is expensive, you haven't seen expensive. Some geckos go for 10k.. =.=

OOT, what was the gecko morph? =.=
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Normal wild form vs some Morph of course no fight lah !!!!


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Normal yniphora cost more then 10k already tongue.gif
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i think beardiekid's just ticked off by someone's reaction to the 888 price, his statement is just to emphasize how expensive/unimaginable animal's price can be.. leslie digressed the thread towards gay-ko discussion pulak wink.gif

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I think it was called "four footed tortoise" as they wrote there...

ROTFL... my res also four footed... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 31 2008, 07:04 AM)
i think beardiekid's just ticked off by someone's reaction to the 888 price, his statement is just to emphasize how expensive/unimaginable animal's price can be.. leslie digressed the thread towards gay-ko discussion pulak  wink.gif
ROTFL... my res also four footed...  laugh.gif
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I think he meant " four digits/claws " rather than " four footed " !!!

Thats what Russian Tortoise , A. horsfieldii are called in chinese !!! Right beardiekid ??
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yeah.. it was horsfeldii there in ikano... the label was four toed tortoise.

just want to have a good morning laugh biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 31 2008, 07:29 AM)
yeah.. it was horsfeldii there in ikano... the label was four toed tortoise.

just want to have a good morning laugh  biggrin.gif
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Hahaha !!

Hows the season so far (breeding from your herd ) ?? Many eggs ??

Me and my friend are waiting/expecting some rare eggs this season !! So far so good , Males are flashing their " thingy" a lot and trying to ram each other over !!!

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not so much from this season.. i shifted all of them res to new enclosures and they took some time acclimating. some are agitated and some big ones gone aggressive. got few offspring but next season should be better.

some stupid worker also managed to burn big specimen (40cm+) to death while clearing up land. (which is pretty f#cked up since i never authorize the use of fire).

the good news is some CB land bound res already seems interested in the opposite sex, and some hill-dwelling res are back in the oil palm plantation after been missing since the flood early last year.


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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 31 2008, 08:13 AM)
not so much from this season.. i shifted all of them res to new enclosures and they took some time acclimating. some are agitated and some big ones gone aggressive. got few offspring but next season should be better.

some stupid worker also managed to burn big specimen (40cm+) to death while clearing up land. (which is pretty f#cked up since i never authorize the use of fire).

the good news is some CB land bound res already seems interested in the opposite sex, and some hill-dwelling res are back in the oil palm plantation after been missing since the flood early last year.
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Good to hear !! Your so many RES doing well !!

Hows your local Painted RES doing , more eggs ??

The Hill-dwelling type , the Impress or the Brown RES ??

But glad to hear more local sp being propogated by local keeper/breeder !!

Sam @ emystiong sends his regards !!
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Aiyah, u misunderstand lah,
i'm not saying i am surprised by the price,

i'm saying ikano is selling RM288 cheaper... for the same tort.
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fulamak sham....u king of RES sial..
got brown res...hi dwelling...so many morphs?LOL..
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QUOTE(valjean @ Oct 31 2008, 11:02 AM)
should be emysking!!! haha
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Will let him know !! BTW he reads this forum from time to time !!

This year his emys production slowed a bit but another sp's up by a lot !! LOL

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One of your KK friend / associate took/bought quite a few from him right ?? All breedable adults both Male and Female !!

But his "emysking " title should still remain as he still have heaps of emys of all size !!!

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of coz....how to beat that kind of collection. needs time and $$$ to beat that amount.

what sp is on the up side? Hehe.
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 31 2008, 09:12 AM)
Good to hear !! Your so many RES doing well !!

Hows your local Painted RES doing , more eggs ??

The Hill-dwelling type , the Impress or the Brown RES ??

But glad to hear more local sp being propogated by local keeper/breeder !! 

Sam @ emystiong sends his regards !!
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I have some question on emys ...looking for Sam @ emystiong for advise .. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(valjean @ Oct 31 2008, 02:16 PM)
of coz....how to beat that kind of collection. needs time and $$$ to beat that amount.

what sp is on the up side? Hehe.
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Local Hill/Mountain dwelling sp !!

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 31 2008, 01:31 PM)
Local Hill/Mountain dwelling  sp !!
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spiny kot ??
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spiny kot ??
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From what I know
Spiny , how up in production also not many as they max also only 2 -3 eggs per clutch and rarely double clutch per season !! Of which he do breed as well ( But none for sale and some here do know why !!)

Impressed is the one !!


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ghosh...up the production of impress...high demand.
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 31 2008, 01:48 PM)
From what I know
Spiny , how up in production also not many as they max also only 2 -3 eggs per clutch and rarely double clutch per season !! Of which he do breed as well ( But none for sale and some here do know why !!)

Impressed is the one !!
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I though jabatan pehilitan will give cites licence for CB ... maybe the constrain is the F2 kot ... tongue.gif tongue.gif

Wow Impressed .. I know thailand had farm working on Impressed (quite impressive)
I already give up on impressed ...haiz cry.gif
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QUOTE(valjean @ Oct 31 2008, 01:16 PM)
of coz....how to beat that kind of collection. needs time and $$$ to beat that amount.
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time and money and large isolated land. smile.gif doing that kind of stuff in kl is plain suicide. which means we should marry some wealthy sino-kadazan to kickstart big-scale projects smile.gif

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Spiny , how up in production also not many as they max also only 2 -3 eggs per clutch and rarely double clutch per season !! Of which he do breed as well ( But none for sale and some here do know why !!)


yup, business wise, doing spiny is non-viable... unless doing morph smile.gif

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Anyone can tell me what happen to "Malaysia Fauna Forum" ?


malaysia fauna? interesting story...

the more reason for us to keep away from risky discussions (like how to smuggle animals on plane, where to get cheap star tortoise etc.) on this thread!!!

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I though jabatan pehilitan will give cites licence for CB ... maybe the constrain is the F2 kot ..


F18 also cannot get license if parent got no cites.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 31 2008, 02:36 PM)
time and money and large isolated land.  smile.gif  doing that kind of stuff in kl is plain suicide. which means we should marry some wealthy sino-kadazan girl to kickstart big-scale projects  smile.gif
yup, business wise, doing spiny is non-viable... unless doing morph smile.gif
malaysia fauna? interesting story...

the more reason for us to keep away from risky discussions (like how to smuggle animals on plane, where to get cheap star tortoise etc.) on this thread!!!
F18 also cannot get license if parent got no cites.
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Wah like that also can arh ? Emys , Impressed and spiny is local right . They should'nt prohibit us from CB.
I thought Jabatan pehilitan is encouraging people to CB this breed.
Please look at Arowana , they already have license for CITES, why tortoise cannot ?

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 31 2008, 03:36 PM)
time and money and large isolated land.  smile.gif   doing that kind of stuff in kl is plain suicide. which means we should marry some wealthy sino-kadazan to kickstart big-scale projects  smile.gif
yup, business wise, doing spiny is non-viable... unless doing morph smile.gif
malaysia fauna? interesting story...

the more reason for us to keep away from risky discussions (like how to smuggle animals on plane, where to get cheap star tortoise etc.) on this thread!!!
F18 also cannot get license if parent got no cites.
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But currently there are no CITES quota for WC Impressed , only some so call CITES CB appeared in US ( stating CB from Malaysia )

So parents no CITES F ?? also cannot get CITES LOL


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QUOTE(valjean @ Oct 31 2008, 03:02 PM)
ghosh...up the production of impress...high demand.
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Ya Those East Asian just cant get enough of them !! As CB are easier to care for and dont drop dead without notice !!!


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I though jabatan pehilitan will give cites licence for CB ... maybe the constrain is the F2 kot ... tongue.gif  tongue.gif

Wow Impressed .. I know thailand had farm working on Impressed (quite impressive)
I already give up on impressed ...haiz  cry.gif
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From what we know all CH from WC parents and most F dont make it to a second year to reproduce or just dont lay in the following year !!



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Added on October 31, 2008, 3:22 pm
Ya Those East Asian just cant get enough of them !! As CB are easier to care for and dont drop dead without notice !!!

Yupe, east asian order list is damn bloody high for emys. be in low land or high land. they just cant stop ordering.
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Anyone can tell me what happen to "Malaysia Fauna Forum" ?

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malaysia fauna? interesting story...

What is that? Sounds like a strip joint. Is it? brows.gif

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time and money and large isolated land.  smile.gif  doing that kind of stuff in kl is plain suicide. which means we should marry some wealthy sino-kadazan to kickstart big-scale projects  smile.gif
yup, business wise, doing spiny is non-viable... unless doing morph smile.gif

Once, the admin had suggested you to marry the tort king...but you dont want. Now pepandai la haha

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the more reason for us to keep away from risky discussions (like how to smuggle animals on plane, where to get cheap star tortoise etc.) on this thread!!!
F18 also cannot get license if parent got no cites.
You wouldn't believe the response the admin got from various people to open the forum back up again (locally and internationally). Everybody..including the licensees who sold the hobbyists out and the enforcers.

But hey since it's the admin's turf (and money)...the admin decided to f*** it. Let's go back to the stone age and talk crap from now on. Good job de notworthy.gif

The admin is now officially retired de...

p.s. Be appreciative that it's now closed. Or else there might be a lot more casualties among the hobbyists.

FYI!

Thanks
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so long never heard from scales then suddenly appear here. seems like you've been lurking around eh?

well, hope everything went fine for you bro, after all that 'period of turmoil'

missed the good old MF-ing days smile.gif






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sham...wan me intro u tak?wealthy sarawakian or sabahan?LOL!!!
or u prefer MARIA....
both also can kick start breeding project.LOL!!!!!
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 31 2008, 04:17 PM)
so long never heard from scales then suddenly appear here. seems like you've been lurking around eh?

well, hope everything went fine for you bro, after all that 'period of turmoil'

missed the good old MF-ing days  smile.gif
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Yeah. Bad habit. Hard to stop. Just like smoking...or wanking LMAO! Joke la biatch!

Life's a b****! So what? But no worries. The admin heals fast. Usually stronger than before the 'turmoil'. Unlike before, he's laying low before going Ka-Boom! That reminds me i.e. Heroes new season going to start soon. Haha!

He misses the good old Mother---[cool.gifF[b/]arking days as well. He misses you too...but not that much la. Haha

Wei, suddenly many RES morphs la.


Added on October 31, 2008, 4:43 pmWhy must Sarawakian or Sabahan? Try Indonesian or Thai or Pinoy lar. Their exotic-ness seems more appealing, whether it be animals or people. IMO la. I still have 3 vacancies to fill. Hmmm...Korean, Australian & maybe.....Hungarian LOL!

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haha.. i prefer czech for breeding project. smile.gif

p/s: heroes:villains started already in september

QUOTE(lessilly @ Oct 31 2008, 10:22 AM)
fulamak sham....u king of RES sial..
got brown res...hi dwelling...so many morphs?LOL..
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leslie @ king of les... i still haven't got any 3-d!cked res haha
play res la safe wink.gif

QUOTE(tony05 @ Oct 31 2008, 02:47 PM)
Wah like that also can arh ? Emys , Impressed and spiny is local right . They should'nt prohibit us from CB.
I thought Jabatan pehilitan is encouraging people to CB this breed.
Please look at Arowana , they already have license for CITES,  why tortoise cannot ?
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LOL...why don't you try to visit the nearest perhilitan office and ask them that same question? and don't forget to tell us the result of that, i really wanted to know their reaction

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Wow scales, long time didnt hear anything from you. How are you man ?
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Oct 31 2008, 06:37 PM)
haha.. i prefer czech for breeding project. smile.gif

p/s: heroes:villains started already in september
leslie @ king of les... i still haven't got any 3-d!cked res haha
play res la safe  wink.gif
LOL...why don't you try to visit the nearest perhilitan office and ask them that same question? and don't forget to tell us the result of that, i really wanted to know their reaction
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Nov 1 2008, 12:41 AM)
I do ask my area jabatan pehilitan, he ask me to show him when my tortoise lay eggs .... but i don't dare lah ....high risk lar ... tongue.gif
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No use lah they just trying to gather evidence to build up a case against you !!!!

My friend tried and showed them his Malayan Box's ( easiest and cheapest to replaced ) life cycle proof ....etc
- Mating , Egg laying , incubation , hatching ...etc But in the end come to nothing !!! Let alone other species both local and imported !!!
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you better get the hell out of here before someone report you in.

even spambots can do better than your 2-syllable comments.

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It used to be a real person with thinking-typing capabilities. Somehow it transformed into a troll early today. > Link

Question: Is egg binding a common occurrence in local tortoises? What is the easiest way to find out if a female becomes eggbound? (Asking for a friend).
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naa... in our climate, the presence of suitable egg-laying site should solve the problem. which says much about the giant res that had laid eggs on the floor. in the pantry. of my office.

i won't reply to the second question simply because i never experienced any egg-bound animals and nor do i want to google for obvious answer.

p/s: i'd blame Count Dooku. he (too) makes funny noises while taking a piss.

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Wah. Obvious answer...alright. Google it is then. ph34r.gif

Count Dooku ain't as bad as Jabba the Hut. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Nov 1 2008, 12:28 PM)
Wah. Obvious answer...alright. Google it is then. ph34r.gif

Count Dooku ain't as bad as Jabba the Hut. tongue.gif
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bro, you had misunderstood me tongue.gif

other forumers might have answers from experience, while i could only give no-brainer answers from google on this matter.



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Alright my master. Will wait for more inputs from others.
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behold... my latest import from Yogyakarta.

Flowerback Wood Turtle - Leucocephalon bullshitoi

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managed to smuggle it on flight, no problem whatsoever cool2.gif
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behold... my latest import from Yogyakarta.

Flowerback Wood Turtle - Leucocephalon bullshitoi

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behold... my latest import from Yogyakarta.

Flowerback Wood Turtle - Leucocephalon bullshitoi

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 1 2008, 05:07 PM)
behold... my latest import from Yogyakarta.

Flowerback Wood Turtle - Leucocephalon bullshitoi

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managed to smuggle it on flight, no problem whatsoever  cool2.gif
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rclxms.gif I heard this species will pyramid in 1 year's time wink.gif

But luckily it doesn't need to eat or pass motion in its lifetime, very cost effective pet
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Just wanted to share some pics of my friend's STs with LYN friends with similar interest in these little buggers tongue.gif

Planned to share earlier but was bz with work and stuff...

Pics taken off hp only...so pls don't mind the low res quality k...

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Nice torts

I meant to say four toed tortoise, typo tongue.gif
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Thx beardiekid wink.gif

Anyone has got any idea regarding where to get Baytril (enrofloxacin) nasal drops or injectables? And any vet who knows how to inject Baytril(im route) into tort's forearms?

Picked out something interest from chelonia.net
"A tip for vets from Chris Tabaka DVM: Do you use gentamicin Sulfate/betamethasone ophthalmic drops much there for tortoise URT disease? I've been using them two to three times daily in the eyes and also nostrils of a couple of recent cases in combination with the classic baytril 10 mg/kg every other day for two weeks with 100% success in a couple of chronic cases here. I think it is primarily the betamethasone that is decreasing the inflammation in the airways and thus eliminating the classic wheezing but the antibiotic duo seems to be knocking out the responsible bugs at the same time. Nothing like transforming "wheezy" the drippy eyed tortoise into a healthy, bright eyed tortoise."

What do the veterans here use for RNS..apart from sun-basking and Vitamin A.

Cheers!

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behold... my latest import from Yogyakarta.

Flowerback Wood Turtle - Leucocephalon bullshitoi

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Just wanted to share some pics of my friend's STs with LYN friends with similar interest in these little buggers  tongue.gif

Planned to share earlier but was bz with work and stuff...

Pics taken off hp only...so pls don't mind the low res quality k...
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Nice ally snapper there bro.. yours ?
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i wish lol.... took this yesterday in KL Tower, they having this SPCA animal world day event.

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one of the best ways to provoke ally snappers into aggression is failure to provide enough water. intentional?

SPCA display or public participation?
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LMAO @ enough water laugh.gif

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not funny! you are forgiven for not knowing, but SPCA (animal welfare movement no?) should know basic stuff about their exhibit.

water level should be higher than the highest point of the carapace to allow the snapper to fully submerge, otherwise they'd be stressed and moody.


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I didn't know that not fully submerging your ally snapper in water will cause it to be... well.. snappy. hmm.gif No wonder my lui lui is so lazy. She has so much water in her tank.

Is it the camera or is the snapper's tail green from algae growth?
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 3 2008, 04:12 PM)
not funny! you are forgiven for not knowing, but SPCA (animal welfare movement no?) should know basic stuff about their exhibit.

water level should be higher than the highest point of the carapace to allow the snapper to fully submerge, otherwise they'd be stressed and moody.
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Im sure they dont know that fact bro. Its weird to see people that are inside those organizations doesnt know much about animal doh.gif
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Im sure they dont know that fact bro. Its weird to see people that are inside those organizations doesnt know much about animal  doh.gif
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MAybe we can start a reptiles rescue here in Malaysia....adopt those unwanted iguanas or any big python which dump by their irresponsible owner...
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QUOTE(Genesisnation @ Nov 4 2008, 09:01 AM)
MAybe we can start a reptiles rescue here in Malaysia....adopt those unwanted iguanas or any big python which dump by their irresponsible owner...
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Need money to do that.... u sponsor ?
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its not immature...
it just not workable for time being...
it just an idea from him.
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ah, forgive me.
I have a propensity to be a bit straight forward at times.
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I'm a member of SPCA...and i admit...we dont really know how to handle shelled reptiles and in general...reptiles...usually people dont abondon their pet reptiles as they are expensive...unlike the mongrels...and some people are really rich and stupid enough to have abononed their pedigrees...thats why they've assigned me to be in charge of the exotic animals...we wouldnt encourage people to keep exotic animals at first...but as when it has become a trend...we've changed from 'discouraging' to 'being responsible towards your exotic pets'...and yes...whenever there's an event being held...those members who have pets will usually bring along their pets to the events for 'some purposes'...but that's what we are practising in SPCA Northern Malaysia...I don't know what my counterparts in Shah Alam doing for their events...

And reptilekingdom was right...we are now working on sheltering the unwanted reptiles...and we are on our way to raising the fund needed and we are planning on shifting our premise...but we still have a long way to go...

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All animals get stressed to some degree in any kind of exhibitions. Ive been to some cat's competitions and even those domesticated creatures get stressed. Just coz they seem placid or docile does not mean they arent stressed. Being in captivity itself is already stressful. Anyways, im sure SPCA has the best interest at heart when it comes to animal.
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why are you so immature?
Need money to do that.... u sponsor ?
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Everything starts from an IDEA.....only can be execute....we will go ask for sponsor from those good samaritans who love herps or animals...maybe we can start from a big bungalow with a piece of land...as reptiles dun nid super huge space like PAWS or SPCA....

its just my opinion...u can agree or disagree...

but for me i think the word ' IMMATURE ' is RUDE...
hope u mind ur words before ur finger touch the keyboard
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I think it requires a lot more than just acquiring a land and having the good intention.

The problem with the idea of running and sustaining an animal rescue center is public awareness. For one, a lot of people who decided to dump their animals, will not think about calling the animal rescue center. They just dump them. Just last week, someone i know wanted to ditch his ball python at the side of road, i was like you might as well just kill it yourself, as often they wont survive being not in captivity. So basically, the only way to increase awareness to spend a lot of money and effort to ensure the public knows that such thing as an exotic rescue center exists.

Also alof of these exotic animals require permits, many who purchase them without permits are a bit paranoid to talk to any animal welfare offcials.

I think establishments like SPCA and PAW are able to sustain their operations due to the support from the public. Such as people coming to adopt the animals and paying some fees. There are also volunteer work done by students and the likes. This is not the case with exotic animals as we talking about a niche hobby here. Dogs and cats are acceptable to the general public, snakes and iguanas are not.



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QUOTE(Genesisnation @ Nov 4 2008, 02:13 PM)
Everything starts from an IDEA.....only can be execute....we will go ask for sponsor from those good samaritans who love herps or animals...maybe we can start from a big bungalow with a piece of land...as reptiles dun nid super huge space like PAWS or SPCA....

its just my opinion...u can agree or disagree...

but for me i think the word ' IMMATURE ' is RUDE...
hope u mind ur words before ur finger touch the keyboard
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no need bungalow or land but a ware house where all the cats, dogs and exotics can be put together.
buy an old ware house is sufficient.

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I know its not an easy task to set up a rescue but it is also not impossible...now malaysia reptile keepers are still not much...so its under control...

I like the idea of having a warehouse and make it like an animals last resort after being dumped. At least there are space and also far from the public.
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no need bungalow or land but a ware house where all the cats, dogs and exotics can be put together.
buy an old ware house is sufficient.
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Right...and do you have any idea how bloody expensive the land is in Penang? Even an old warehouse will cost more than RM3m...wish it was that easy
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Yes yes.. we know how expensive land in Penang.. but have you thought of land in other place..?
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Yes yes.. we know how expensive land in Penang.. but have you thought of land in other place..?
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Well...we are only considering the land in Penang...there's already a branch in Butterworth...so if we buy a land in the mainland...the name of SPCA Penang will lose its meaning...
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juz yesterday my friend told me about his friend found ST in the middle of the road.....the ST quite big....mayb around 7-8inches....he took in the ST for shelter in his house....
but sadly...most of good samaritan didnt know anything about reptiles....
he juz let the ST sit in one place n feed him/her.
now i'm trying to get that ST from him smile.gif
thanks to him...the ST survive.....but i think the ST will not survive that long....i hope i get the ST A.S.A.P...
but....i'm not that pro about ST...... tongue.gif
i hope u guys will lend me sum help if i need it ya~~~~ peace

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Hello,

Can anyone kindly advise me where to get a pair of long-necked turtles? My friend needs to take them with him overseas and he is leaving tomorrow. I have tried calling most of the shops listed in the forums, but no shop seems to have la...

Any help is appreciated....

Thanks
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QUOTE(hfi @ Nov 4 2008, 12:54 PM)
All animals get stressed to some degree in any kind of exhibitions. Ive been to some cat's competitions and even those domesticated creatures get stressed. Just coz they seem placid or docile does not mean they arent stressed. Being in captivity itself is already stressful. Anyways, im sure SPCA has the best interest at heart when it comes to animal.
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there's a difference between stressing out for being in captivity and stressing out for being constantly provoked. that mistake was no big deal actually once it is corrected, but think of the wrong message that SPCA had sent to the public.

if i had not raised the issue here, many people would still think that the husbandry provided was valid.

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we've changed from 'discouraging' to 'being responsible towards your exotic pets'...and yes...whenever there's an event being held...those members who have pets will usually bring along their pets to the events for 'some purposes'...but that's what we are practising in SPCA Northern Malaysia...I don't know what my counterparts in Shah Alam doing for their events...


how is SPCA gonna educate the public on being responsible pet owners if they know nuts about exotic pets? having the best interest of heart is not gonna help if they are stuck on knowledge only on mainstream pets.

my advice to spca if they seriously want to initiate a reptile sanctuary; get more knowledge, recruit more reptile keepers, whatever you can on the know-how side. having land, funds etc won't mean anything if basic husbandry stuff remains ignored. it would only end up like sam poh tong or kek lok si.

duhknight, i'm glad that someone from SPCA is here. at least we could convey messages directly.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 4 2008, 08:08 PM)
my advice to spca if they seriously want to initiate a reptile sanctuary; get more knowledge, recruit more reptile keepers, whatever you can on the know-how side. having land, funds etc won't mean anything if basic husbandry stuff remains ignored. it would only end up like sam poh tong or kek lok si.

duhknight, i'm glad that someone from SPCA is here. at least we could convey messages directly.
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Right...thanks for your advice...but then again...most of our active volunteers are foreigners...ad they don't usually keep pets...and i find that most penangites do love keeping pets...but they dont really help out much when it comes to giving a hand doing charity for the poor animals...in terms of manpower as well as financial...well...as to your suggestion...we are doing the same thing right now...but those who know how to handle reptiles are all vets...its kinda hard to find any serious or seasoned reptile keepers in this island

maybe i could get some advice from all the gurus in this forum eh brows.gif
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Hello,

Can anyone kindly advise me where to get a pair of long-necked turtles? My friend needs to take them with him overseas and he is leaving tomorrow. I have tried calling most of the shops listed in the forums, but no shop seems to have la...

Any help is appreciated....

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Have you called Toby's pets at 1-Utama otherwise you can check jalan pasar in KL ? Last time i was there, i saw variety of turtles/tortoises.
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QUOTE(inexsis @ Nov 4 2008, 07:09 PM)
juz yesterday my friend told me about his friend found ST in the middle of the road.....the ST quite big....mayb around 7-8inches....he took in the ST for shelter in his house....
but sadly...most of good samaritan didnt know anything about reptiles....
he juz let the ST sit in one place n feed him/her.
now i'm trying to get that ST from him smile.gif
thanks to him...the ST survive.....but i think the ST will not survive that long....i hope i get the ST  A.S.A.P...
but....i'm not that pro about ST...... tongue.gif
i hope u guys will lend me sum help if i need it ya~~~~ peace
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wow, that is like.... so rare shocking.gif
lucky bugger shocking.gif
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Hello,

Can anyone kindly advise me where to get a pair of long-necked turtles? My friend needs to take them with him overseas and he is leaving tomorrow. I have tried calling most of the shops listed in the forums, but no shop seems to have la...

Any help is appreciated....

Thanks
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There's a well established aquarium located in Burma Road in Penang is currently selling the snake-necks...price is very low...but im not sure whether the turtles are healthy
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2008/11/04
10,000 smuggled turtle eggs seized
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SANDAKAN: The marine police have cracked their biggest case of turtle egg smuggling this year, with the seizure of some 10,000 eggs from the Philippines.
Four smugglers were unloading the eggs, worth about RM28,000, from a speedboat in the Kampung Forest beach area on Sunday night when a team of policemen arrived at the scene at 8.15pm.

On seeing the policemen, the smugglers panicked and escaped in the boat, leaving 20 sacks of eggs on the beach.

Acting Sandakan marine police chief ASP Muhammad Sallam Spawi described the seizure as the biggest this year.

He said marine police had increased operations to eradicate smuggling of the eggs and prevent its illegal sale in the district.
"Initial investigations have revealed that a syndicate obtained the eggs from several islands in the Philippines. While the syndicate is masterminded by foreigners, the locals sell the eggs in Bandar Sandakan for as much as RM2.80 per piece."

why are they so cruel cry.gif
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wow, that is like.... so rare shocking.gif
lucky bugger  shocking.gif
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i'm afraid this situation happens bcoz of the new law.....
people too afraid to keep their ST or sell them and juz throw them away like garbage..... vmad.gif vmad.gif
thank god the ST didnt get hit by car or any vehicle.....

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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 4 2008, 05:45 PM)
Right...and do you have any idea how bloody expensive the land is in Penang? Even an old warehouse will cost more than RM3m...wish it was that easy
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who doesn't know the land in Penang is expensive?
well, you can always collect the money and sponsor ship to help out so.

always start off small then shift to larger place from time to time or may be what you all can do is find a small old warehouse or small land which can let you build building within your budget then may be can start kua?

money stuff i think you can get from sponsors.

what camill said is precise to the event which skilful people or expert or serious enthusiast is required in the matter.

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why are they so cruel cry.gif
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now, what are the police going to do with those 10,000 eggs? hmm.gif

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money stuff i think you can get from sponsors.

sponsor is harder to get than you might think... smile.gif

even the chelonian section of the perhilitan-governed malacca zoo had tough luck finding annual sponsorship of only RM5k.

(i won't advise on sponsoring them, for that matter. no, not unless they stop feeding their emys ikan kembung for a start)

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now, what are the police going to do with those 10,000 eggs?  hmm.gif
sponsor is harder to get than you might think...  smile.gif

They will share among themselves and eat/sell them !!!

I have seen them change hands in Federal buildings in bags of 20 - 30 !! In that particular case in the Immigration Department (I was renewing my passport ) a few years back
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Added on November 5, 2008, 12:44 pm

who doesn't know the land in Penang is expensive?
well, you can always collect the money and sponsor ship to help out so.

always start off small then shift to larger place from time to time or may be what you all can do is find a small old warehouse or small land which can let you build building within your budget then may be can start kua?

money stuff i think you can get from sponsors.

what camill said is precise to the event which skilful people or expert or serious enthusiast is required in the matter.
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LOL...i've been working on the fund raising for 6 years...if getting sponsors was an easy stuff...we wouldnt have put so many poor strays to sleep...is not just about getting a premise you know...you will also have to take the area concerned into account...if that area is a residential area...you think the city council will let us to establish our premise there? Penangites are stingy...that includes me as well...
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 5 2008, 09:47 PM)
They will share among themselves and eat/sell them !!!

I have seen them change hands in Federal buildings in bags of 20 - 30 !! In that particular case in the Immigration Department (I was renewing my passport ) a few years back
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bullseye!!! stays true to the spirit of bolehland! rclxms.gif

again, those officers are the one who reap the benefits illegally, be it turtle eggs, snakes or tortoises (media announced 'sent back to country of origin' - bull).

our law enforcement makes good bar room jokes laugh.gif

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Obviously those officer ta pao back home la...
for sure sell off themself to get extra pocket money.
biasa ler...Boleh land...corrupted to the max...
eh sham...i tot UR the one with Uzairi kena raided in the party??
n u mcm scofield...Prison break while Uzairi still inside prison having fun with gay mates in the cell.LOL
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I don't mind sponsoring my time if anyone is serious about setting this up.
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QUOTE(lessilly @ Nov 6 2008, 09:11 AM)
Obviously those officer ta pao back home la...
for sure sell off themself to get extra pocket money.
biasa ler...Boleh land...corrupted to the max...
eh sham...i  tot UR the one with Uzairi kena raided in the party??
n u mcm scofield...Prison break while Uzairi still inside prison having fun with gay mates in the cell.LOL
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He's looking for potential victims to fall into his pink trap, Uzairi. Poor Leslie.
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anyone know where can i get flyriver turtle? ive seen the specimen at xian leng shah alam but its juz for display.....
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 5 2008, 11:30 PM)
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LOL...i've been working on the fund raising for 6 years...if getting sponsors was an easy stuff...we wouldnt have put so many poor strays to sleep...is not just about getting a premise you know...you will also have to take the area concerned into account...if that area is a residential area...you think the city council will let us to establish our premise there? Penangites are stingy...that includes me as well...
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if thats the case it was really hard for you guys out there.
whats your concept anyway? smile.gif

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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Nov 6 2008, 01:12 PM)
He's looking for potential victims to fall into his pink trap, Uzairi. Poor Leslie.
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leslie has a trap cheers.gif

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anyone know where can i get flyriver turtle?


during the launch of TRAFFIC's An Identification Guide to the Tortoises and Freshwater Turtles of Brunei Darussalam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Singapore and Timor Leste earlier this year, fly river turtle is one of those species heavily emphasized.

and since they fall under CITES since 2005, never ever had any quota allocated and now have bullseyes on their nose, it is now quite risky to have them on sale openly.

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 5 2008, 12:50 PM)
2008/11/04
10,000 smuggled turtle eggs seized
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SANDAKAN: The marine police have cracked their biggest case of turtle egg smuggling this year, with the seizure of some 10,000 eggs from the Philippines.
Four smugglers were unloading the eggs, worth about RM28,000, from a speedboat in the Kampung Forest beach area on Sunday night when a team of policemen arrived at the scene at 8.15pm.

On seeing the policemen, the smugglers panicked and escaped in the boat, leaving 20 sacks of eggs on the beach.

Acting Sandakan marine police chief ASP Muhammad Sallam Spawi described the seizure as the biggest this year.

He said marine police had increased operations to eradicate smuggling of the eggs and prevent its illegal sale in the district.
"Initial investigations have revealed that a syndicate obtained the eggs from several islands in the Philippines. While the syndicate is masterminded by foreigners, the locals sell the eggs in Bandar Sandakan for as much as RM2.80 per piece."

why are they so cruel cry.gif
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Just an update

They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!

Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!

LOL What are they thinking !! A remark from my friend !!!
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
Just an update

They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!

Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about  how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!

LOL What are they thinking !! A remark from my friend !!!
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Samperth, u from Sabah mah, just go and dot-com dot-my with them, maybe u can get some eh? smile.gif

BTW, what torts are they? Didnt really mention whether they were ST, leopards etc...

Cheers! smile.gif
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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Nov 6 2008, 08:11 PM)
Samperth, u from Sabah mah, just go and dot-com dot-my with them, maybe u can get some eh? smile.gif

BTW, what torts are they? Didnt really mention whether they were ST, leopards etc...

Cheers!  smile.gif
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Sea turtle eggs !!

No need to dot-com dot-my with them also can get !! And cheaper too !!
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They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!
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Will that ever work Samperth?
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BTW, what torts are they? Didnt really mention whether they were ST, leopards etc...
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duh... what are the odds of 10,000 star tortoise eggs smuggled out of philippines and sold in sandakan for rm2.80 each doh.gif

QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about  how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!
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they might as well mention those few unicorns that came out of those egg laugh.gif
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Will that ever work Samperth?
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Reptiles' eggs dont store well !! Especially with rough handling and days since being laid !!

The odds of hatching any from those 10k eggs is almost none !!

But that will be the best way to cover their " tracks / sales "
Since buried eggs can disappear ie dug up by predators .......etc or " nest site " cannot be found
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Logically put. Thanks for that.
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 6 2008, 08:35 PM)
duh... what are the odds of 10,000 star tortoise eggs smuggled out of philippines and sold in sandakan for rm2.80 each  doh.gif
they might as well mention those few unicorns that came out of those egg  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif not to mention some dragons and phoenixes as well eh...

Just wondering why you all are so prejudice against the Malaysian enforcement officers




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QUOTE(rafiqos @ Nov 6 2008, 01:12 PM)
He's looking for potential victims to fall into his pink trap, Uzairi. Poor Leslie.
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doh.gif dammit!

QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 6 2008, 04:01 PM)
leslie has a trap cheers.gif
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 6 2008, 05:53 PM)
Just an update

They plan to rebury the eggs and try to hatch them ( Fingers very crossed ) !!

Even mention in one of the local Chinese newspaper about  how some of the officer ( Perikanan ) have kept some eggs in their store and after a few days turtles hatch out ( some miracale ) !!!

LOL What are they thinking !! A remark from my friend !!!
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LOL, trying to be a good samaritan by telling ppl things like that ? doh.gif

QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 7 2008, 12:27 AM)
laugh.gif    not to mention some dragons and phoenixes as well eh...

Just wondering why you all are so prejudice against the Malaysian enforcement officers
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Why do you think we treat them like that ?
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Nov 7 2008, 12:44 AM)
doh.gif dammit!
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LOL, trying to be a good samaritan by telling ppl things like that ?  doh.gif
Why do you think we treat them like that ?
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well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?
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well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?
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Did their job as in the Sabah Turtle eggs case ??

Lets do some maths !!

Assume 10000 eggs sold for RM 2 ( cheaper price to speed sale ) a pc easily comes to RM 20 000 !!

How much could those Four smugglers offer in term of bribe ?? RM 100 , 200 , 500 or even 1000 !!
Now compare that !!

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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 7 2008, 11:30 AM)
well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?
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hey has anyone seen the taiwanese turtles on sale at toby's?

is the price displayed reasonable?
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hey has anyone seen the taiwanese turtles on sale at toby's?

is the price displayed reasonable?
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those Ocadia sinensis hatchling there are labelled as 'Taiwanese Turtle'... sold at RM40 each.

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well...at least they did their job...i mean...they could have taken th bribe...but instead of having done that...they played their part...now aint that professional?


if you had joined this community just one year earlier, you'd know better laugh.gif

we do not judge solely on one particular case. just look at the way they handle their confiscated and 'rescued' animals...

ever heard the story about the baby elephant that broke its feet and suffered under those irresponsible caretakers? ever read the news of snakes being sold by officers a day after it had been confiscated? ever check on the possibilities of why the whole colony of sumatran rhinos under their care perished? ever wondered why orchid collectors in Cameron got fined for collecting orchids in illegal logging areas while those that did the illegal logging had not been implicated at all?

i could go on rambling all night long.. so, you judge yourself smile.gif

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Ocadia Sinesis RM40 EACH? hatchling?? O.o mine rm6

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rm6? hmm... dirt cheap?

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yeah i knw. that's why i deleted it. lols


Added on November 7, 2008, 9:48 pmyeah. Who wanna buy mine for rm30 then? =D

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haha no la... i just wondering why u got it rm6 whereas toby is as high as rm40.
its like 650% more.
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haha no la... i just wondering why u got it rm6 whereas toby is as high as rm40.
its like 650% more.
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no idea. i got from CTY, Penang. Wahh i knew it! i told my friend should buy more then resell next time. mwahahahahahahaha.. and i was right.. i suppose.
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oh well...perhaps you guys have seen the scenarios that i havent seen before...thanks for the enlightenment...perhaps i've been doctrinated...

Yup...CTY is selling Ocadia Sinesis for RM5.80 to be precise a piece...bought mine two weeks ago...and guess what...it died 3 days later...again...

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oh well...perhaps you guys have seen the scenarios that i havent seen before...thanks for the enlightenment...perhaps i've been doctrinated...

Yup...CTY is selling Ocadia Sinesis for RM5.80 to be precise a piece...bought mine two weeks ago...and guess what...it died 3 days later...again...
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Mine survive quite long edi worh. haaha. My star last time died which was bought from CTY. LOLS.
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Mine survive quite long edi worh. haaha. My star last time died which was bought from CTY. LOLS.
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Thank you...you just reinforced my statements...

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Ocadia Sinesis = Chinese Striped neck turtle by common name

They are very hardy turtles. used to keep this before. They are abundant in china like malayan box here...

I oso saw Toby sell abit mahal...
Sometimes we cant judge an animal sell by the shop if they died. Some animals hav lotsa internal parasite which we dunno...its all depend on luck...i used to buy expensive radiata, Sulcata, leopard, burm star and i experience death oso even from the hardiest species....

So, do the checklist when u buy, thats what u can do. Dun be temped by the appearance or exoticness and ignore the health checklist.
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Lol, smaller fish shops around KL sells ocadias for 9-10 bucks. I got a pair, has been with me for nearly a month now.

Can recommend some diets we can give to our ocadia's?

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turtle pellets + many many plant items + some live food. they are much more vegetarian than res, and should accept many kinds of veges and fruit.

they ones i keep in outdoor enclosures gives no growing chance to water lettuce and water hyacinth smile.gif

p/s: they are very very susceptible to mbd (usually can be seen on depressed scutes, worse case deformed limbs) if their calcium/D3 requirement is not met.

QUOTE(Genesisnation @ Nov 8 2008, 07:00 PM)
Sometimes we cant judge an animal sell by the shop if they died. Some animals hav lotsa internal parasite which we dunno...its all depend on luck...
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naa... CB hatchling shouldn't have much problem with internal parasites.

the most common problem among hatchling Ocadia (and other species for that matter) is RI, which is often the direct result of neglect.

no need luck to know this if the shop keep their animals in shitty condition like CTY.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 9 2008, 10:51 AM)
turtle pellets + many many plant items + some live food. they are much more vegetarian than res, and should accept many kinds of veges and fruit.

they ones i keep in outdoor enclosures gives no growing chance to water lettuce and water hyacinth  smile.gif

p/s: they are very very susceptible to mbd (usually can be seen on depressed scutes, worse case deformed limbs) if their calcium/D3 requirement is not met.
naa... CB hatchling shouldn't have much problem with internal parasites.

the most common problem among hatchling Ocadia (and other species for that matter) is RI, which is often the direct result of neglect.

no need luck to know this if the shop keep their animals in shitty condition like CTY.
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so far i seen,CTY provide better husbandry if compare to other pet shops in the PG island.perhaps KW got some improvement now?? smile.gif

try to compare with the one at tanjong tokong blink.gif

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KW provides a good husbandry, CTY is just too cramped, tg tokong mix elongata, res, black marsh with.. DUCKS..
Seen 1 more place? Tg Tokong reptile corner if not wrong. Malay shop. The ST there is left in a cage. The kind of cage you put monkeys in..

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QUOTE(kenn91 @ Nov 9 2008, 02:10 PM)
KW provides a good husbandry, CTY is just too cramped, tg tokong mix elongata, res, black marsh with.. DUCKS..
Seen 1 more place? Tg Tokong reptile corner if not wrong. Malay shop. The ST there is left in a cage. The kind of cage you put monkeys in..
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if i am not mistasken its call viper shop.
some of the snake there is expensive too.
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so far i seen,CTY provide better husbandry if compare to other pet shops in the PG island.perhaps KW got some improvement now?? smile.gif

try to compare with the one at tanjong tokong blink.gif
LOL... tanjong tokong might be shittier, but it boils down the same--> cty's husbandry still shitty.
(having others that are worse does not mean that something is good, eh?)

keng weng... smile.gif

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Is there any other shops that sell tortoise in PENANG? Dono where else to explore edi. =\
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Saw two hatchling STs at a pet shop in Butterworth today...around two inch and are sold for RM300 each...one is burmese star and another one indian star
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 9 2008, 08:10 PM)
Saw two hatchling STs at a pet shop in Butterworth today...around two inch and are sold for RM300 each...one is burmese star and another one indian star
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You 100% sure about one of them being a Burmese star ?? at RM 300 a pc only ?? I would't mind buying if really a Burmese !!
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Saw two hatchling STs at a pet shop in Butterworth today...around two inch and are sold for RM300 each...one is burmese star and another one indian star
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i seriously doubt that bro... not at that price.

many people believe that burmese stars can be differentiated from their indian counterpart based only on the lack of those parallel lines on their carapace. in fact, it is normal for small indian stars not to have those lines (and some adult
also have didn't develop those lines)

had check the plastron or the lack of serration on its posterior edge?

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It couldnt be wrong...what i saw was really a burmese star...the boxy pattern with slightly light yellow was totally different from the indian star...wasnt a leopard either...you could recognise it at a first glance...and whats wrong with burmese stars? They are quite commonly sold in northern region...provided you have the cash that is...but RM300 is a bit expensive for a star...be it the indian star or burmese star

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Take a pic so that we can double confirm. I also doubt that its a burmese star at any circumstances.
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Why not you go and have a look at it yourself? It only takes you about an hour of ferry trip and another 45minutes of bus journey...from penang jetty that is

I will go there when im free again...hopefully it aint sold by then
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 9 2008, 09:24 PM)
It couldnt be wrong...what i saw was really a burmese star...the boxy pattern with slightly light yellow was totally different from the indian star...wasnt a leopard either...you could recognise it at a first glance...and whats wrong with burmese stars? They are quite commonly sold in northern region...provided you have the cash that is...but RM300 is a bit expensive for a star...be it the indian star or burmese star
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burmese stars are sold in Ks bro, not hundreds. rm300 is impossible.

like i said, sometimes indian stars do have carapace pattern that resembles burmese star. so carapace pattern is not a valid method to determine the species. got to check on pattern on plastron and/or other minor differences.

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Yup, that's true. Remember the IST specimen that we say few months back sis camill ? Looks like a burmese star but sadly it isnt. LOL
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 9 2008, 09:24 PM)
It couldnt be wrong...what i saw was really a burmese star...the boxy pattern with slightly light yellow was totally different from the indian star...wasnt a leopard either...you could recognise it at a first glance...and whats wrong with burmese stars? They are quite commonly sold in northern region...provided you have the cash that is...but RM300 is a bit expensive for a star...be it the indian star or burmese star
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i don think its common.i never see any sellin in pet shops.
plus thier high cost,i don think those shop will get them. nod.gif


Added on November 9, 2008, 10:42 pmuzairi
the pellets were awesome.
my turtle just like it very much.
unfortunately the nutrition list is not in english.

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Well then...so far as the supplier of the burmese star is concerned...there have been specimens being imported from Taiwan...those specimens are all captive bred...cool huh...
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QUOTE(eddie88 @ Nov 9 2008, 10:38 PM)
i don think its common.i never see any sellin in pet shops.
plus thier high cost,i don think those shop will get them. nod.gif


Added on November 9, 2008, 10:42 pmuzairi
the pellets were awesome.
my turtle just like it very much.
unfortunately the nutrition list is not in english.
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Told ya they'll go crazy over it. brows.gif


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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 9 2008, 09:31 PM)
Why not you go and have a look at it yourself? It only takes you about an hour of ferry trip and another 45minutes of bus journey...from penang jetty that is

I will go there when im free again...hopefully it aint sold by then
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pls pm me the shop...I wanna go to see it .. I from BM
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Indian !!
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 9 2008, 10:24 PM)
It couldnt be wrong...what i saw was really a burmese star...the boxy pattern with slightly light yellow was totally different from the indian star...wasnt a leopard either...you could recognise it at a first glance...and whats wrong with burmese stars? They are quite commonly sold in northern region...provided you have the cash that is...but RM300 is a bit expensive for a star...be it the indian star or burmese star
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Since you so sure you saw Burmese Star lets see if theres any Burmese star in the pic I posted ?


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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 9 2008, 11:45 PM)
Well then...so far as the supplier of the burmese star is concerned...there have been specimens being imported from Taiwan...those specimens are all captive bred...cool huh...
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Do you know how much a CB or WC Burmese Star can sell in Taiwan , Japan , Hong Kong , US ............ Why would a breeder want to sell to Malaysia and for less than USD 100 a pc !!!

- http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=50&de=644484 ( A recent classified in Kingsnake.com )

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Yup, that's true. Remember the IST specimen that we say few months back sis camill ? Looks like a burmese star but sadly it isnt. LOL
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seems to have alot of BURMESE STAR WANNABE in the market.

Guys, instead of asking whether yours is a burmese or a indian. why not google up and check the difference. You will get a better understanding on the diff btw them. if you ask us, we will just answer NO is not a burmese. Therefore do some reading on star tortoise.

For those who say you see this and that at this particular price bla bla bla. Dude, check the price in overseas and local pricing that was once offered. YOU AINT GETTING FOR THAT PRICE that you mention not by chance.

The resemble or look like but THEY ARE NOT. so just move on and admire the beauty of burmese star.

Uzairi...still remember the burm you keep. hehe
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pls pm me the shop...I wanna go to see it .. I from BM
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I cant remember the name of the shop...but its somewhere around Raja Uda en route to the jetty...quite a small but clean pet shop...do remember to take some pictures of the tortoises...thanks
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Its weird, dont expect to get any burmese star that cheap.
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QUOTE(valjean @ Nov 10 2008, 11:51 AM)
seems to have alot of BURMESE STAR WANNABE in the market.

Guys, instead of asking whether yours is a burmese or a indian. why not google up and check the difference. You will get a better understanding on the diff btw them. if you ask us, we will just answer NO is not a burmese. Therefore do some reading on star tortoise.

For those who say you see this and that at this particular price bla bla bla. Dude, check the price in overseas and local pricing that was once offered. YOU AINT GETTING FOR THAT PRICE that you mention not by chance.

The resemble or look like but THEY ARE NOT. so just move on and admire the beauty of burmese star.

Uzairi...still remember the burm you keep. hehe
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Not really...the radiata hatchlings are sold for US2grands plus in the overseas...but in penang...you could get it for around RM7xx...if you really tour around the pet shops in our northern region...you will really be shocked...and do you know that there was a batch of diamondback hatchlings being sold for RM8x per piece in Penang and Butterworth? Dont just follow the prices in central or southern region...
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 10 2008, 01:10 PM)
I cant remember the name of the shop...but its somewhere around Raja Uda en route to the jetty...quite a small but clean pet shop...do remember to take some pictures of the tortoises...thanks
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Do you meant the aquarium near appollo ?


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Not really...the radiata hatchlings are sold for US2grands plus in the overseas...but in penang...you could get it for around RM7xx...if you really tour around the pet shops in our northern region...you will really be shocked...and do you know that there was a batch of diamondback hatchlings being sold for RM8x per piece in Penang and Butterworth? Dont just follow the prices in central or southern region...
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The diamond back still available ?? I am interested to get one pair .. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 10 2008, 02:18 PM)
Not really...the radiata hatchlings are sold for US2grands plus in the overseas...but in penang...you could get it for around RM7xx...if you really tour around the pet shops in our northern region...you will really be shocked...and do you know that there was a batch of diamondback hatchlings being sold for RM8x per piece in Penang and Butterworth? Dont just follow the prices in central or southern region...
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Radiated are expensive oversea due to them being on CITES I and thus if not CB with the proper papers are not allowed for sale !!

Whereas over here they are imported from many places ( most/all without CITES ) thus the lower price !! There are also claims that they are produced locally with papers too !!!

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Beside CH and CB they ( Radiated ) could be WC ( larger specimen) as there are still so many of them both in their native island country and some nearby island where they are introduced !! In comparison for example the Burmese Star which are considered extinct in the wild !!

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Radiated are expensive oversea due to them being on CITES I and thus if not CB with the proper papers are not allowed for sale !!

Whereas over here they are imported from many places ( most/all without CITES ) thus the lower price !! There are also claims that they are produced locally with papers too !!!
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Malaysia don't have any act on the Tortoise ... it is true ?? CITES is only apply when you wanna import or export ... right ?

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 10 2008, 06:56 AM)
[attachmentid=665402]

Since you so sure you saw Burmese Star lets see if theres any Burmese star in the pic I posted ?


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Do you know how much a CB or WC Burmese Star can sell in Taiwan , Japan , Hong Kong , US ............  Why would a breeder want to sell to Malaysia and for less than USD 100 a pc !!!

- http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=50&de=644484 ( A recent classified in Kingsnake.com )
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Dude...im a burmese ST lover and have been hunting around for this sp for years...i could be mistaken sometimes but you think i would make this sort of joke in front of you the gurus? That one on the most upper second right grabs my intention the most but its caraspace pattern does not really seem convincing to me

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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 10 2008, 02:36 PM)
Dude...im a burmese ST lover and have been hunting around for this sp for years...i could be mistaken sometimes but you think i would make this sort of joke in front of you the gurus? That one on the most upper second right grabs my intention the most but its caraspace pattern does not really seem convincing to me
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If you are such a Burmese ST lover and saw one being offered for RM 300 a pc why dont you get it !! I would for sure !!
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QUOTE(valjean @ Nov 10 2008, 11:51 AM)
seems to have alot of BURMESE STAR WANNABE in the market.

Guys, instead of asking whether yours is a burmese or a indian. why not google up and check the difference. You will get a better understanding on the diff btw them. if you ask us, we will just answer NO is not a burmese. Therefore do some reading on star tortoise.

For those who say you see this and that at this particular price bla bla bla. Dude, check the price in overseas and local pricing that was once offered. YOU AINT GETTING FOR THAT PRICE that you mention not by chance.

The resemble or look like but THEY ARE NOT. so just move on and admire the beauty of burmese star.

Uzairi...still remember the burm you keep. hehe
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Knew you'd ask...'cause mine died before...and that one i saw was only 2inch+...thats why im keeping turtles instead...duh~
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duhknight...stop it le...stop making us laugh at u.
u sure u been hunting burmese star for years?
if u been hunting em for years..im pretty sure u know the pricing of burmese star...
samperth n some others here know all these tortoises for years...so just take their words.
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 10 2008, 02:53 PM)
Knew you'd ask...'cause mine died before...and that one i saw was only 2inch+...thats why im keeping turtles instead...duh~
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OK its your RM your choice !!

Heres mine [attachmentid=665677] they are about 2 inch ! !
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 10 2008, 01:53 PM)
Knew you'd ask...'cause mine died before...and that one i saw was only 2inch+...thats why im keeping turtles instead...duh~
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burmese don't drop dead as easily as indian, you know?

and do i even need to mention that those 2 distinct species came from different parts of the world and not likely to be mixed up in 1 shipment? which means that you are not going to get any burmese star while browsing through piles of indian star.

and why would anyone sell some f*cking rare tortoise (with more forgiving husbandry) at the price of (fragile) indian? even the source (neigbouring country up north) sells higher than that price!!

ok la i'm gonna stop discussing this up cause it's getting nowhere.

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yeayea...anything they say...i never meant to say against their statements...just that when i saw that lil guy...prima facie it got me thinking that it was a burmese...but ya'll should really have seen it...we have a guy going to that pet shop taking photos now...hope i was right
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 10 2008, 02:09 PM)
OK its your RM your choice !!

Heres mine  [attachmentid=665677]  they are about 2 inch ! !
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Nice burmese stars sam.

Their shells are really nice smile.gif
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 10 2008, 02:13 PM)
yeayea...anything they say...i never meant to say against their statements...just that when i saw that lil guy...prima facie it got me thinking that it was a burmese...but ya'll should really have seen it...we have a guy going to that pet shop taking photos now...hope i was right
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Can u give me more detail on the petshop ? I will go tonight ... if there are BS for sure I will take hehehe ...
but I don't put so much hope lah , if don't have just go and see look see look also ok ...hehe tongue.gif


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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 10 2008, 02:09 PM)
OK its your RM your choice !!

Heres mine  [attachmentid=665677]  they are about 2 inch ! !
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kind to pm me the price ... I have a quotation from myanmar thru a japanese ... but still cannot afford to get one shipment (minimum 40 pcs) rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(tony05 @ Nov 10 2008, 04:51 PM)
Can u give me more detail on the petshop ? I will go tonight ... if there are BS for sure I will take hehehe ...
but I don't put so much hope lah , if don't have  just go and see look see look  also ok ...hehe  tongue.gif


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kind to pm me the price ... I have a quotation from myanmar thru a japanese ... but still cannot afford to get one shipment (minimum 40 pcs)  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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If from myanmar must be from one of 2 Wildlife Sanctuary !! Why dont you try Thailand there are breeding farms selling them and you dont need to buy that many ie 40 to start with !!

Those 2 not for sale as my friend just bought them !! He may start selling when his start hatching ( soon ) Speaking of which I think there are upwards of 10 species's eggs cooking !!!
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 10 2008, 04:54 PM)
If from myanmar must be from one of 2 Wildlife Sanctuary !! Why dont you try Thailand there are breeding farms selling them and you dont need to buy that many ie 40 to start with !!

Those 2 not for sale as my friend just bought them !! He may start selling when his start hatching ( soon ) Speaking of which I think there are upwards of 10 species's eggs cooking !!!
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Thanks bro ...
Frankly speaking ... I would get a nyiphora or adlabra ...than a BS ....hehehe biggrin.gif:D
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Nov 10 2008, 06:26 PM)
Thanks bro ...
Frankly speaking ...   I would get a nyiphora  or adlabra ...than a BS ....hehehe   biggrin.gif:D
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Finding a Yniphora is easier than a Burmese Star I think ( by way of offer ) even thou a Yni is 2 - 3 times more expensive than a BS of the same size !! But all 3 make good , easy to care for pets !!


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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Nov 10 2008, 04:32 PM)
Nice burmese stars sam.

Their shells are really nice  smile.gif
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QUOTE(duhknight @ Nov 10 2008, 02:13 PM)
yeayea...anything they say...i never meant to say against their statements...just that when i saw that lil guy...prima facie it got me thinking that it was a burmese...but ya'll should really have seen it...we have a guy going to that pet shop taking photos now...hope i was right
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If its true, i think its worth it for me to come over from my place to penang just for the BS even with petrol and tolls.
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Nov 10 2008, 03:51 PM)
Can u give me more detail on the petshop ? I will go tonight ... if there are BS for sure I will take hehehe ...
but I don't put so much hope lah , if don't have  just go and see look see look  also ok ...hehe  tongue.gif


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kind to pm me the price ... I have a quotation from myanmar thru a japanese ... but still cannot afford to get one shipment (minimum 40 pcs)  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Sorry...i dont remember the name of that petshop...its just a small pet shop with lots of hamster cages in front of the shop...looks very tidy and clean...nothing really special except for the STs...its in somewhere around Raja Uda (if i get the name right) en route to the jetty


Well guys...i know what i saw...but still...my apology for having stirred up with this kind of nonsense
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 10 2008, 05:36 PM)
Finding a Yniphora is easier than a Burmese Star I think ( by way of offer ) even thou a Yni is 2 - 3 times more expensive than a BS of the same size !!  But all 3 make good , easy to care for pets !!


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Thanks !!
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Agree with the statement above, even tho they r expensive, but they are quite hardy and not prone to diseases....
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For me i might need to wait a few more years before getting them lol
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 10 2008, 04:54 PM)
If from myanmar must be from one of 2 Wildlife Sanctuary !! Why dont you try Thailand there are breeding farms selling them and you dont need to buy that many ie 40 to start with !!

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sam, can u tell me where's the place that i can get burmese star in thailand? thanx wink.gif
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hv u get the pic duhknight?
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sam, can u tell me where's the place that i can get burmese star in thailand? thanx wink.gif
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Sorry I cant and wont do that As many will be very very crossed

My sifu , and a few others in this forum !!
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Guys. Any idea on how to make my tortoise more active and increase it's appetite?
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More sunlight? Basking makes them more active. And basking helps them digest some vitamins. Move more, digest more, can eat more I guess.
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ok thanks. i shall try..
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Guys. Any idea on how to make my tortoise more active and increase it's appetite?
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indian star i suppose? they're naturally not one of those 'active' tortoises, so don't expect them to run around too much. as long as they are mobile during certain parts of their photoperiod is ok.

they certainly don't enjoy basking for too long either (a few minutes only then head straight into hiding. and don't force them into basking for too long, you might not like the consequences).

try feeding them every other day as opposed to every day, that should help increase their appetite.

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Exactly. The only tortoise sp i own. xD Hmmm... I will try what you've advised me. Thanks!!


Anyone knw any tortoise which is more active???

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QUOTE(kenn91 @ Nov 12 2008, 09:08 PM)
Exactly. The only tortoise sp i own. xD Hmmm... I will try what you've advised me. Thanks!!
Anyone knw any tortoise which is more active???
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Riadata , pancake , russian... hmm.gif
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Redfoot tortoise would be a good choice too. If you want active "tortoise" get the asian giant pond turtle H.Grandis and you might get shocked to see how active they are laugh.gif
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 12 2008, 08:47 PM)
indian star i suppose? they're naturally not one of those 'active' tortoises, so don't expect them to run around too much. as long as they are mobile during certain parts of their photoperiod is ok.

they certainly don't enjoy basking for too long either (a few minutes only then head straight into hiding. and don't force them into basking for too long, you might not like the consequences).

try feeding them every other day as opposed to every day, that should help increase their appetite.
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What happens when u overdid the basking/sunbathing for them like say 1 hour under the sun with water? I know consequences is not good, but if possible, kindly expand on that a bit?
Will they die of heatstroke?
Or become sick thereafter?
Become hyperactive for few minutes out of the sun then sleep whole day or become very lethargic?

Thanks!
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yes they can die out of heatstroke if you put them out in the sun for too long without any shade/hide. water for drinking/soaking won't help much because the shell is a damn good heat conductor.

depending on the severity of the damage (whether the tortoise had minor dehydration, foaming or had thoroughly been cooked up inside) the tortoise can die on the spot, live a few days in agony or just might survive. my advice, don't take chances!

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Become hyperactive for few minutes out of the sun then sleep whole day or become very lethargic?

they (IST) usually come out during dim light photoperiod (morning/late afternoon/early evening) when the heat is not so intense. most of the time the remain in hiding, whether sleeping or lazing off.

most petshops don't provide hide, and assume restless tortoises (in search of hide) as active tortoises.

QUOTE(uzairi @ Nov 13 2008, 03:02 AM)
Redfoot tortoise would be a good choice too. If you want active "tortoise" get the asian giant pond turtle H.Grandis and you might get shocked to see how active they are laugh.gif
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grandis... love them.

no matter how much they fight, they still ended up eating like pigs. even the smallest (lowest in hierarchy smile.gif ) don't seem to be affected by the bullying LOL..

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hey,my mum bought a turtle which is exactly same as king83,they called "star turtle"in chinese.
it already above 5-6 yrs i think,but we nvr keep it well,now i feel like give it a better environment,hope u guys can giv me more opinions ><
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guys do you know where to find bigger , deeper water tanks??
my common snappers are now at about 6" (measurement from top shell to bottom shell)
those i found are mostly fish tanks round type doesnt suit my snappers to swim around

btw now about 6" i read the snapper websites say about after hatchlings feed them once on two to three days , and adult once a week , what u guys advise ??

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u can use those tangki for house, very big and also hardy. Common snapper can get obese quite easily, few of my frens snapper really fat...u can feed yours 2 times a week la...thats my feeding frequency when i used to have them lastime
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yeah mine now dont have much space to move just craw in the water , i bring to dry land they fat until look like a fat frog adoi lolz

haih its either i find a big tangki or i have to dig a big pool for them in the garden
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or else u can use toyogo box....u can go those selling landscaping item shop or nursery to look for the tub...some of them using Koi tub...
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try hardware shop/supplier or fishery-related stockist for fiber tank. last time someone on agribazaar was even selling 5' X 10' for about rm500+ only.

nurseries usually sell them at f*cking high prices.
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Question: For like for ELMO's case, would the size of the tank affect the growth of his snapper? Coz some fishes tend to grow faster/bigger when they are reared in larger tanks. Was juz wondering if that applies to TTT also?

And also i think that elmo, you'd wanna get the maximum size u can now so that you don't have to keep changing when ur snapper gets bigger that'd save u alot of money n time to chg..my opinion..
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Nov 13 2008, 10:02 AM)
yes they can die out of heatstroke if you put them out in the sun for too long without any shade/hide. water for drinking/soaking won't help much because the shell is a damn good heat conductor.

depending on the severity of the damage (whether the tortoise had minor dehydration, foaming or had thoroughly been cooked up inside) the tortoise can die on the spot, live a few days in agony or just might survive. my advice, don't take chances!
they (IST) usually come out during dim light photoperiod (morning/late afternoon/early evening) when the heat is not so intense. most of the time the remain in hiding, whether sleeping or lazing off.

most petshops don't provide hide, and assume restless tortoises (in search of hide) as active tortoises.
grandis... love them.

no matter how much they fight, they still ended up eating like pigs. even the smallest (lowest in hierarchy smile.gif ) don't seem to be affected by the bullying LOL..
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QUOTE(fernando torres @ Nov 13 2008, 10:55 AM)
hey,my mum bought a turtle which is exactly same as king83,they called "star turtle"in chinese.
it already above 5-6 yrs i think,but we nvr keep it well,now i feel like give it a better environment,hope u guys can giv me more opinions ><
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Its star tortoise for a start and since you said u kept it for like 5-6 years care to put its enclosure so that we can see if its okay or not ?

QUOTE(ELM0 @ Nov 13 2008, 11:04 AM)
guys do you know where to find bigger , deeper water tanks??
my common snappers are now at about 6" (measurement from top shell to bottom shell)
those i found are mostly fish tanks round type doesnt suit my snappers to swim around

btw now about 6" i read the snapper websites say about after hatchlings feed them once on two to three days , and adult once a week , what u guys advise ??
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Feed them 2-3 times per week with those feeding fish, use less pellets as they can make them obese and pyramiding.

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Question: For like for ELMO's case, would the size of the tank affect the growth of his snapper? Coz some fishes tend to grow faster/bigger when they are reared in larger tanks. Was juz wondering if that applies to TTT also?

And also i think that elmo, you'd wanna get the maximum size u can now so that you don't have to keep changing when ur snapper gets bigger that'd save u alot of money n time to chg..my opinion..
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Same thing bro, bigger tank would allow them to grow bigger naturally.
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Hi. I have two red eared sliders, one is significantly larger than the other, but still within several inches only.. I noticed for a few days that the smaller one's been making funny noises, something like sneezing. Then he started to swim lopsided. I checked online and he most probable has an upper respiratory infection or pneumonia. Now apparently this is only treatable by vets. Do any of you know any turtle/terrapin vets in the ampang area? It'll be really helpful =). thanks!
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First of all,to even let u know where the vets are..you'll have to tell us where you're from..lol..anywayz,theres a pin up board of all available vets at the main page..pls look it up..

Thx uzairi for the info..meaning if a specimen is housed outdoors,they'd most likely grow at the same rate in the wild..
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First of all,to even let u know where the vets are..you'll have to tell us where you're from..lol..anywayz,theres a pin up board of all available vets at the main page..pls look it up..
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  Hi. I have two red eared sliders, one is significantly larger than the other, but still within several inches only.. I noticed for a few days that the smaller one's been making funny noises, something like sneezing. Then he started to swim lopsided. I checked online and he most probable has an upper respiratory infection or pneumonia. Now apparently this is only treatable by vets. Do any of you know any turtle/terrapin vets in the ampang area? It'll be really helpful =). thanks!


you could try dr yeoh at taman megah.

while you're having trouble finding vet to give your res antibiotic shots, do these:

-separate those turtles

-raise water temperature for the sick turtle to mid 80s

and make sure all the husbandry and diet requirements are met; basking spot, basking light, waste management, etc

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those anybody here could give your opinion....my tortoise refused to eat the foods i give if i mixed it with calcium powder...what shall i do...i once try to mixed the vegetables with anlene milk powder and he seems to love it...pls comments biggrin.gif hmm.gif
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Which food and calcium supplement that you use to feed your tort ?

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whoops..missed that ampang word..lolz..sry me bad..
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sorry for late reply
yeah i trying to 1 time buy a big pool for them
i cant tahan see them cant move much , make me cant enjoy watching them swim freely in a big pool , haha and the disadv part is they grow bigger to be a godzila
are they any other common snapper owners around?

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My star tortoise has been starting to make a click sound after i fed it with some pellets. Is it a respiratory infection or??
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My star tortoise has been starting to make a click sound after i fed it with some pellets. Is it a respiratory infection or??
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Hey Kenn91, hows ur STs doing? Still clicking?

Is it some pellet crumbs stuck in the URT? NO bubbly nose rite, if yes taht could be RNS or URI....

Sorry cant be of mcuh help as not much info supplied wink.gif

Hope it recovers with time...

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Thanks for helping. No bubbly nose. Everything okay. just the sound that i feel weird nii. =\
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if not mistaken the calcium powder i bougt named REPTI-CAL and its smell so strong
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if not mistaken the calcium powder i bougt named REPTI-CAL and its smell so strong
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yeah man...i also buy it from midvalley-2 months before expiry date....since my tortoise don't like it, i've thrown it away vmad.gif
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Thx beardiekid wink.gif

Anyone has got any idea regarding where to get Baytril (enrofloxacin) nasal drops or injectables? And any vet who knows how to inject Baytril(im route) into tort's forearms?

Picked out something interest from chelonia.net
"A tip for vets from Chris Tabaka DVM: Do you use gentamicin Sulfate/betamethasone ophthalmic drops much there for tortoise URT disease? I've been using them two to three times daily in the eyes and also nostrils of a couple of recent cases in combination with the classic baytril 10 mg/kg every other day for two weeks with 100% success in a couple of chronic cases here. I think it is primarily the betamethasone that is decreasing the inflammation in the airways and thus eliminating the classic wheezing but the antibiotic duo seems to be knocking out the responsible bugs at the same time. Nothing like transforming "wheezy" the drippy eyed tortoise into a healthy, bright eyed tortoise."

What do the veterans here use for RNS..apart from sun-basking and Vitamin A.

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Baytril nasal drops can be prepared manually, i have a whole bottle here....the concentration is 0.2%

baytril dose is 5-10mg/kg...use a lower dose for younger animals...

baytril injectables are better to be injected at the hindlimb and not the forelimb...

preferable because it's easier and safer....

must dilute before injecting because baytril is alkaline and is painful when injected intramuscularly...

i don recommend giving baytril to young animals as it will severely impair the growth of the animal later...


Added on November 22, 2008, 11:10 pmhi everybody

1st time in here and glad to meet all the pros here...

can i have some advice on star tortoise breeding from all of u here?

your help and advice is much appreciated...

thanks

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Baytril nasal drops can be prepared manually, i have a whole bottle here....the concentration is 0.2%

baytril dose is 5-10mg/kg...use a lower dose for younger animals...

baytril injectables are better to be injected at the hindlimb and not the forelimb...

preferable because it's easier and safer....

must dilute before injecting because baytril is alkaline and is painful when injected intramuscularly...

i don recommend giving baytril to young animals as it will severely impair the growth of the animal later...


Added on November 22, 2008, 11:10 pmhi everybody

1st time in here and glad to meet all the pros here...

can i have some advice on star tortoise breeding from all of u here?

your help and advice is much appreciated...

thanks
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Thx for your input jinwee28, I find that concocting Baytril nasal drops from tablet form is still not as neat as getting a commercial preparation
premixed solution. The Baytril tab I bought was 50mg per tab....the dosage recommended is only 5-10mg/kg...and the ST is only 105g.
That makes it 1.05mg ~1mg requirement every other day=give Day1, skip Day 2, give Day3 again etc...
Just say u dilute 1 tab of 50mg Baytril into 10ml of saline or water...u would need ~0.2ml for its daily requirement and this is not the actual nasal drop requirement but just the enteral or perenteral dosage. I find that the gentamicin-betamethasone combo is more easily administered...just
make sure to give them 1-2 times per day and not 3 times a day as gentamicin =aminoglycoside group, has risk of inducing renal failure due to its nephrotoxicity (in humans with impaired renal function too).

My fren's ST RNS has resolved after adding some regular sunbathing, infrared heat lamp (use 75W and below as it gets VERY hot), now it's back
with the gang, actively eating...and no more disturbing bubbly nose. Baytril was given initially for a few days but aborted as it has notorious side effects and wasnt easy to give, not to mention the fact that u could overdose if given more than u should...imagine giving 0.2 mls to the ST, how sure are u adequate amounts are received...

Anyway...nip the prob early with sunlight, heat lamp, antibiotics would be the way to go

Cheers
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Hi guys... i'm new to this thread, and actually found this forum thread while searching for soft shelled turtles. Anyway, does anyone here know where i can buy baby soft shelled turtles? Like in which pet shop will have them in stock? I know this is rude, but can anyone who knows please sms me the place that sells the soft shelled turtles? My number is 016-6929566. Can't go online to update myself frequently due to TM not yet getting my streamyx done. Thanks everyone for your help.
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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Nov 23 2008, 12:04 AM)
Thx for your input jinwee28, I find that concocting Baytril nasal drops from tablet form is still not as neat as getting a commercial preparation
premixed solution. The Baytril tab I bought was 50mg per tab....the dosage recommended is only 5-10mg/kg...and the ST is only 105g.
That makes it 1.05mg ~1mg requirement every other day=give Day1, skip Day 2, give Day3 again etc...
Just say u dilute 1 tab of 50mg Baytril into 10ml of saline or water...u would need ~0.2ml for its daily requirement and this is not the actual nasal drop requirement but just the enteral or perenteral dosage. I find that the gentamicin-betamethasone combo is more easily administered...just
make sure to give them 1-2 times per day and not 3 times a day as gentamicin =aminoglycoside group, has risk of inducing renal failure due to its nephrotoxicity (in humans with impaired renal function too).

My fren's ST RNS has resolved after adding some regular sunbathing, infrared heat lamp (use 75W and below as it gets VERY hot), now it's back
with the gang, actively eating...and no more disturbing bubbly nose. Baytril was given initially for a few days but aborted as it has notorious side effects and wasnt easy to give, not to mention the fact that u could overdose if given more than u should...imagine giving 0.2 mls to the ST, how sure are u adequate amounts are received...

Anyway...nip the prob early with sunlight, heat lamp, antibiotics would be the way to go

Cheers
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mine is done by premixing injectables baytril with distilled water...the concentration is 50mg/250ml of water

so i just mix 1 ml of baytril in 250ml basically...

i'm using it as a nasal flush....

it works on my star tortoise with RNS...i did not administer other drugs as well...the flush can be applied 2-3 times daily


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rclxm9.gif jst bought 4 young st biggrin.gif
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rclxm9.gif jst bought 4 young st  biggrin.gif
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rclxm9.gif jst bought 4 young st  biggrin.gif
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Harlow everybody~
forum like so slow..

took me quite sometimes to go thru V1 V2 and V3 -.-"

Phew~
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Harlow everybody~
forum like so slow..

took me quite sometimes to go thru V1 V2 and V3 -.-"

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Welcome !! Are you a TT owner to be or already one ??


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busy taking pics of the st, over few hundred already.
ta daaa...testing dunno can upload onot.

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bought these at chatuchak yesterday, 2 pairs from 2 different shop. saw some burmese there, quite a lot of shops selling st. they sell radiata n yniphora also but need to order. shiny st pair 1200 bht, non shiny st pair 900 bht. feeding them sang choy, then transfer them to the garden with the growing (choy sum). still fixing the fence separating the bigger pair. cheers


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wow...nice st

how much is 1?

i wanna get a few more also

should have met u earlier...haizzz
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ta daaa...testing dunno can upload onot.

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bought these at chatuchak yesterday, 2 pairs from 2 different shop. saw some burmese there, quite a lot of shops selling st. they sell radiata n yniphora also but need to order. shiny st pair 1200 bht, non shiny st pair 900 bht. feeding them sang choy, then transfer them to the garden with the growing (choy sum). still fixing the fence separating the bigger pair. cheers
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where r u from bro ? if Malaysia....how do u manage to bring back them into malaysia ? rclxub.gif
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wow...nice st

how much is 1?

i wanna get a few more also

should have met u earlier...haizzz
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bought in bangkok wor... 1 is around 900 - 1200 baht ( rm 90 - 120)


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where r u from bro ? if Malaysia....how do u manage to bring back them into malaysia ?  rclxub.gif
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i'm from everywhere brows.gif , not planning to bring back yet, but my bigger pair was smuggled into thai soil from mas, cos last time dunno thailand got sell, so many in chatuchak somemore. planning to take 1 pair of small one for a flight to somewhere else. hope that i can get thru thumbup.gif

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bought in bangkok wor... 1 is around 900 - 1200 baht ( rm 90 - 120)


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i'm from everywhere  brows.gif , not planning to bring back yet, but my bigger pair was smuggled into thai soil from mas, cos last time dunno thailand got sell, so many in chatuchak somemore. planning to take 1 pair of small one for a flight to somewhere else. hope that i can get thru  thumbup.gif
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that's so cheap

going to bangkok again? laugh.gif

then next time can tumpang d thumbup.gif

wanna get at least 4 more

bt i wonder how to get through....train possible or not?

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that's so cheap

going to bangkok again? laugh.gif

then next time can tumpang d thumbup.gif

wanna get at least 4 more

bt i wonder how to get through....train possible or not?
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leaving bangkok in a few days time, but not going back to malaysia....yet. u can get in malaysia blink.gif , why u wanna risk leh? malaysia sudah ada law wor, dun play play oh. at first i wanna buy from mas to thai but sked o, u pulak terbalik wanna get from thai shakehead.gif
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wahaha3,so cute... drool.gif and quiet cheap too..wanna go to buy there also lah,but worry if get caught..ho3 sweat.gif it all about law,but must obey it for the sake of conservation..harap2 la..but in my conservation biology class,it did mention that serious pet lovers or breeders also contribute to the conservation biology..but not many can become serious pet lovers,just wanna play2 with the pets. hope everyone in TTT not like that lah.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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star tortoise in thailand should be different, color, genes and origin

some might be wild caught also

i wanna keep some good ones as breeding stock later

i'm planning to become a good breeder and research officer later
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wahaha3,so cute... drool.gif and quiet cheap too..wanna go to buy there also lah,but worry if get caught..ho3 sweat.gif it all about law,but must obey it for the sake of conservation..harap2 la..but in my conservation biology class,it did mention that serious pet lovers or breeders also contribute to the conservation biology..but not many can become serious pet lovers,just wanna play2 with the pets. hope everyone in TTT not like that lah.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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But this kind of law doesnt help them in any way! So do you think the law is a correct by neglecting the good things the serious pet lover/breeder has done so far ?


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But this kind of law doesnt help them in any way! So do you think the law is a correct by neglecting the good things the serious pet lover/breeder has done so far ?
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yes, i admit,the law seems not holistic especially in Malaysia,we are too far behind.The law about TTT usually implemented by the CITES,not wildlife department and Malaysia as a members of CITES must obey it. but they do so just to reduce wildlife trade. even based on fact,moreless 20% only the livestock still alive when reach the destination. and sometimes those animal reach the end of their life in stupid petshop and stupid people. i oledi talk about it with some wildlife officer during my fieldwork because i think the law was not fair to serious breeder like u all,but he said that he cannot do anything because it involve top people(some of them didnt know nothing about wildlife,just bisnes).. hmm.gif maybe one of us must be one of a policy maker,kwah3. tongue.gif
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Got 2 RES..

Feel like having a sulcata but was wondering izzit CITES I or CITES II now?


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Got 2 RES..

Feel like having a sulcata but was wondering izzit CITES I or CITES II now?
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Its CITES II for now and if bought from the right place , the receipt issued by that place should enable you to apply for a license to keep !!


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yes, i admit,the law seems not holistic especially in Malaysia,we are too far behind.The law about TTT usually implemented by the CITES,not wildlife department and Malaysia as a members of CITES must obey it. but they do so just to reduce wildlife trade. even based on fact,moreless 20% only the livestock still alive when reach the destination. and sometimes those animal reach the end of their life in stupid petshop and stupid people. i oledi talk about it with some wildlife officer during my fieldwork because i think the law was not fair to serious breeder like u all,but he said that he cannot do anything because it involve top people(some of them didnt know nothing about wildlife,just bisnes).. hmm.gif maybe one of us must be one of a policy maker,kwah3. tongue.gif
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Even those local sp listed with CITES , they usually wont issue license ( individual hobbist like you and me ) too !!!

Base on what fact ?? I thought all underground ( how to estimate facts / numbers if cant be seen ) !! Most of these facts are made up by those people / body out to get conservation funds !!

From what I know the high death rate in transit were due to packing method ( efficient yet best to avoid dection by authorities ) !!

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cites = full of bollocks

law = same as above, theoriticaly n practicaly f**ked up
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Even those local sp listed with CITES , they usually wont issue license ( individual hobbist like you and me ) too !!!

Base on what fact ?? I thought all underground ( how to estimate facts / numbers if cant be seen ) !! Most of these facts are made up by those people / body out to get conservation funds !!

From what I know the high death rate in transit were due to packing method ( efficient yet best to avoid dection by authorities ) !!
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cites = full of bollocks

law   = same as above, theoriticaly n practicaly f**ked up
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ha3,i know this is the expecting outcome here tongue.gif .i know it because im also rear pet and fight like this with that wildlife officer, blush.gif . so chill out guys..just sharing what i know here..if u think that were trash,just throw it away,aha3. biggrin.gif

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Any idea where to get the license if the receipt is valid = ) hmm.gif rclxub.gif
Please enlight me.. ahh~ notworthy.gif
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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4187&sec=nation

Ain't that one big specimen? btw, they refer the soft shelled as a tortoise.. is tat right?
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Wah biggy biggy~
I dont believe that is tortoise.. blink.gif

Let the expert to determine wat sp is that rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(blazin_fir3 @ Nov 27 2008, 01:10 PM)
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4187&sec=nation

Ain't that one big specimen? btw, they refer the soft shelled as a tortoise.. is tat right?
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Totally wrong! laugh.gif

Even those basic things they got mixed up what more the species name! laugh.gif
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ha3..it same like some people always said "star turtle". laugh.gif
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Its 41kg mann..roughly how old or long would it take to reach that size?

btw, any1 can determine the species just by the pic?
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Its 41kg mann..roughly how old or long would it take to reach that size?

btw, any1 can determine the species just by the pic?
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Most likely Asian Softshell Turtle @ Amyda cartilaginea But I doubt that specimen is even close to 30 kg let alone 41 kg !!!

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Major haul: ASP Mohamad Pouzi (second from right) looking at the tortoise which was seized during the raid in Bukit Pasir on Tuesday night.



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Well,i wouldn't know..its wat they wrote in the papers so i guess we'll just have to accept that. Another question would be, what are they gonna do with it now since they did not say its dead and from the picture - it looks like its still alive..i hope..
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So anyone have any license for tortoise that from CITES 1 or 2 from wildlife dept?

Pls share if you do.

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hi guys, wanna ask, what is the dosage for deworming a 130g ST? and with what dewormer?
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I learn from the past few TTT V1 2 3.
The tai kor tai kor sekalian here suggested pumpkin as dewormer. = )

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Hope i am not wrong... blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif
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Here's something to reflect on
Pumpkin seeds as dewormersWorks primarily (and possibly only) on tapeworms.
But nothing like a good firm dose of Panacur can beat flushing away those parasites.

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hai all, i have a noob question here,

i have an IST, her claws form behind legs are very long and she doesnt move a lot. can i cut the claws out of it? i mean like 2/3 or 1/3 of its length.

another question, i notice her behavior is like resting most of the time, will that be ok? every morning before 10 or 11.30 i put her out to basking for about three minutes or 5 depends on the days.

thanks alot for helping her, i do hope that she is ok and in good health. =)
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http://www.adpost.com/my/pets/21294/

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Description

Selected Angonoka tortoise for sale
Details

Breed: Angonoka PureBred
Age: 2 Years
Sex: Male 
  Sterilised
Primary Color: Yellow 
Secondary Color: Brown 
Advertiser: Owner 
Price: 9000 RM Neg.
Payment Forms:  Cash
Estimated Shipping RM: Pick-up Only
  No International Shipping



Can offer for sale meh ?? Dare ho , some people !!



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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Nov 28 2008, 05:05 PM)
http://www.adpost.com/my/pets/21294/
Can offer for sale meh ?? Dare ho , some people !!
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At the time of this post..the ad have been removed..and i've got firewall error entering the web from kenn91..haha..
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you did? O.o his friend sms me the site. i can see worh. i save the pic sumor. it's at my desktop now. he has 4 ploughshares.
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QUOTE(kenn91 @ Dec 2 2008, 12:36 PM)
you did? O.o his friend sms me the site. i can see worh. i save the pic sumor. it's at my desktop now. he has 4 ploughshares.
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As that post in adpost will raise too much unwanted attention thus my post here ( due to ploughshares being CITES I ) !! I like his courage to even dare to post that ad in adpost after so many arrest this year !!

Tell his friend to tell him that I meant no harm !! as a fellow ploughshares owner ( more than his 4 ) I wount want the authorites to get to them by disguise-ing as potential buyer and got trap !!
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Newest addition !! cant wait till they grow to max. size !!!
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nice unifilis there. I use to have them. grow till 5 inches then give it to a fren already
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QUOTE(Genesisnation @ Dec 4 2008, 11:01 PM)
SAM,

nice unifilis there. I use to have them. grow till 5 inches then give it to a fren already
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Was wondering how fast they grow ? To 5 inches , 12 inches , 24 inches and beyond ??
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 2 2008, 12:48 PM)
As that post in adpost will raise too much unwanted attention thus my post here ( due to ploughshares being CITES I ) !! I like his courage to even dare to post that ad in adpost after so many arrest this year !! 

Tell his friend to tell him that I meant no harm !!  as a fellow ploughshares owner ( more than his 4 ) I wount want the authorites to get to them by disguise-ing as potential buyer  and got trap !!
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penang got one guy get into the trap , now oso dono what to do ...pity him sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tony05 @ Dec 5 2008, 02:53 AM)
penang got one guy get into the trap , now oso dono what to do  ...pity him  sweat.gif
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Can tell us more !! Who set the trap the seller or the buyer ?? As in most case its "the buyer" who set the trap and trap the seller ?? Any case where it was the other way round ??


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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 5 2008, 07:09 AM)
Can tell us more !! Who set the trap the seller or the buyer ?? As in most case its "the buyer" who set the trap and trap the seller ?? Any case where  it was the other way round ??
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he is a part time pets supplier , the buyer ask him to find something. and set up a trap during the transaction.... to bad ... doh.gif

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high risk high return, no pain no gain.

am 100% sure the "buyer" is from the dept. They will pose as buyer or even buy from you a few times,then only nab you in after few transactions. They are willing to pay cash upfront for the animal to avoid you from suspecting them.

i know two person that got into trouble for the same reason. Tell your friend, lesson learn and just get going. nth to pity,every biz have its risk. this is part of this trade.
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that's why i keep telling people here to avoid discussion on animal smuggling, etc.. attract unwanted attention and suddenly got zapped by "shieldtox"..

what they don't realize is several fellow thread members here also got caught (including those who's using laughable double, triple, quadruple accounts to support his case) by those darned traps.. not a nice experience.

so, to all noobs who knows nuts here, please keep your statement discreet and don't repeat stupid questions like "since you are in thai, can i ask you to bring in some ST?", "can i bring by train?". keep your f*cking curiosity to yourselves and keep this thread clean and safe.


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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
that's why i keep telling people here to avoid discussion on animal smuggling, etc.. attract unwanted attention and suddenly got zapped by "shieldtox"..

what they don't realize is several fellow thread members here also got caught (including those who's using laughable double, triple, quadruple accounts to support his case) by those darned traps.. not a nice experience.

so, to all noobs who knows nuts here, please keep your statement discreet and don't repeat stupid questions like "since you are in thai, can i ask you to bring in some ST?", "can i bring by train?".  keep your f*cking curiosity to yourselves and keep this thread clean and safe.
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agree with you. keep all your know how in your pocket. be in shieldtox or not. once you are in, prepare to go court and face those fierce bugger asking you lots of question. prepare money to pay fine as well and some money to give when you are in the cell. so that you get a place to sleep and some better food.


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QUOTE(valjean @ Dec 5 2008, 10:31 AM)
agree with you. keep all your know how in your pocket. be in shieldtox or not. once you are in, prepare to go court and face those fierce bugger asking you lots of question. prepare money to pay fine as well and some money to give when you are in the cell. so that you get a place to sleep and some better food.
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That why I don't give a dam to those pm me regarding unlegal stuf tongue.gif Now focus on my stingrays breeding project brows.gif

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QUOTE(tony05 @ Dec 5 2008, 11:37 AM)
I know a guys who is in the cell for 3 yrs in USA because of pets ... now still carry on with his business "legally" ... tongue.gif  tongue.gif
That why I don't give a dam to those pm me regarding unlegal stuf  tongue.gif Now focus on my stingrays breeding project  brows.gif
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Hi Gurus, i have a doubt here needed your advises very much.
1. Why is a small T always bit a big T?
a. Dislike?
b. Hungry?
c. Naughty?
d. Others?

2. What should i do? Seperate both?

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what T? more details on that?

depending on species/situation, it might just be a male trying to mate with a female.
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 6 2008, 12:51 AM)
what T? more details on that?

depending on species/situation, it might just be a male trying to mate with a female.
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Cami, TY very much for your replied.
Is a ST. One is 50cm & another one is 55cm.
The big ST, 1 of the rear foot nail was gone, i suspect it was due by the small ST. sad.gif
Really dont know what is worng. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ariesto @ Dec 6 2008, 12:21 AM)
Cami, TY very much for your replied.
Is a ST. One is 50cm & another one is 55cm.
The big ST, 1 of the rear foot nail was gone, i suspect it was due by the small ST. sad.gif
Really dont know what is worng. sad.gif
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i believe you meant to say 50mm & 55mm?

i've never come across STs as big as you mentioned. wink.gif
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Dec 6 2008, 12:22 PM)
i believe you meant to say 50mm & 55mm?

i've never come across STs as big as you mentioned. wink.gif
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QUOTE(ariesto @ Dec 6 2008, 01:21 AM)
Cami, TY very much for your replied.
Is a ST. One is 50cm & another one is 55cm.
The big ST, 1 of the rear foot nail was gone, i suspect it was due by the small ST. sad.gif
Really dont know what is worng. sad.gif
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Majority if not all of the ST in our market are WC thus missing a nail or two or even chip shell is commonplace !!

At 50 and 55 mm I will rule out the Male trying to mate theory !!

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Hey guys, what kinds of substrate do you use for your baby sulcatas?
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Sulcatas are originally African based, so something semi-arid or dry would be best...try using big woodchips or recycled paper pellets..

Avoid alfalfa or woodbark....

Sulcata will grow to large proportions if u intend to keep them for many many years...otherwise they are pretty cute fellas...

Just my 2 sen wink.gif

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Dec 14 2008, 04:04 AM)
Sulcatas are originally African based, so something semi-arid or dry would be best...try using big woodchips or recycled paper pellets..

Avoid alfalfa or woodbark....

Sulcata will grow to large proportions if u intend to keep them for many many years...otherwise they are pretty cute fellas...

Just my 2 sen wink.gif

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Recycled paper pellets or woodchips, thanks smile.gif
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if u have a lot of money, large area,just use natural grass on the field as their substrate, but need to have fence and small house to them,ha3. just kidding bro.. biggrin.gif why this thread become silent and quiet lately? hmm.gif
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Infact i do have a big area, that's why i planned to get a sulcata tongue.gif

I just need to know what kinds of substrate do i need to use when it's a baby xD
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i saw some Soft-Shell Turtles at my local pet store selling at RM3 per piece, they are so cute..

May i know how big will they grow?
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Dec 15 2008, 03:29 PM)
i saw some Soft-Shell Turtles at my local pet store selling at RM3 per piece, they are so cute..

May i know how big will they grow?
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Most likely this - Chinese Soft-shelled Turtle


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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 14 2008, 10:48 PM)
Infact i do have a big area, that's why i planned to get a sulcata  tongue.gif

I just need to know what kinds of substrate do i need to use when it's a baby xD
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really? drool.gif ur sulcata gerenti happy like crazy when they grow...ha3.anyway,sulcata has rapid growth rite?
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Like pumping a dude with steriods.. I have a friend that had this sulcata.. About during Jan, her sulcata was abour 2-3 inches

Now the buggers about 6-7 inches.. damn fast
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yeah, Sulcata growth is very fast, more or less like Aldabra
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Where can i get this?
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 15 2008, 07:57 PM)
Like pumping a dude with steriods.. I have a friend that had this sulcata.. About during Jan, her sulcata was abour 2-3 inches

Now the buggers about 6-7 inches.. damn fast
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thats really nice..maybe someone here know where to get it..tell us,we need to know.. notworthy.gif

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prepare a few ks first then only ask around. those morphs are not difficult to find when you have the $$$.

as i mentioned in V3, sellers usually won't stock up on them if there is no order.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 16 2008, 11:03 AM)
prepare a few ks first then only ask around. those morphs are not difficult to find when you have the $$$.

as i mentioned in V3, sellers usually won't stock up on them if there is no order.

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Sorry i haven prepare anything before asking, it won't happen again
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naa, no need for apologies. nothing wrong... wink.gif

it's just that sellers usually would require some deposits, sometimes full amount, before making orders.

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I like turtles very much, but when they grow big headache..
Any turtles/tortoise that wont grow so big to intro? my aunt has 3 star tortoise..
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Panic***!!!!!!!
My turtle is dying...what should i do???
Its a pig nose turtle and somehow the shell looks like
it keep getting hit or something...like cracking day by day....T_T

I dont know if it actually is dying or what...some how i just felt that its dying.
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QUOTE(Isolationx @ Dec 16 2008, 06:22 PM)
Panic***!!!!!!!
My turtle is dying...what should i do???
Its a pig nose turtle and somehow the shell looks like
it keep getting hit or something...like cracking day by day....T_T

I dont know if it actually is dying or what...some how i just felt that its dying.
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Can provide more information like
- Diet
- Enclosure ....etc


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Isolationx: Show us some pictures of the said specimen!
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Here it is
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those are minor and a turtle that size would most likely survive. and that sure looks like claw marks/damage from foreign objects.

check your tank, maybe the turtle hits sharp objects (edge of filters/skimmers) or something. and your substrate (gravel) is definitely too rough for piggies.

standard treatment procedure for injuries on softshell turtles that i usually implement are just the usage of aquarium salt and raised temperatures (85-86 degrees f)


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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 17 2008, 05:27 PM)
those are minor and a turtle that size would most likely survive. and that sure looks like claw marks/damage from foreign objects.

check your tank, maybe the turtle hits sharp objects (edge of filters/skimmers) or something. and your substrate (gravel) is definitely too rough for piggies.

standard treatment procedure for injuries on softshell turtles that i usually implement are just the usage of aquarium salt and raised temperatures (85-86 degrees f)
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thank you thank you...
yea maybe its the rock i guess,
then what should i do with the substrate? Get a new one?
ad errmm how do you raise the temperatures of the tank?
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no substrate (bare bottom) works fine for most keepers.

raise temperature of course use heater (with thermostat better)

anyway, those gravels would likely only cause injuries to the plastron (unless that piggy swims upside down) so there must be something else in the tank.
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 17 2008, 05:47 PM)
no substrate (bare bottom) works fine for most keepers.

raise temperature of course use heater (with thermostat better)

anyway, those gravels would likely only cause injuries to the plastron (unless that piggy swims upside down) so there must be something else in the tank.
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er got only peacock and 2 sucker fish
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er got only peacock and 2 sucker fish
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bingo!!

remove those ASAP
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 17 2008, 08:01 PM)
bingo!!

remove those ASAP
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ha3,Dr camillenoir... rclxms.gif
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can anyone help me identify what species is this?saw it in front of my house..it's still a baby..and it just won't eat..i tried to give him(her) small pieces of raw chicken meat,sausages,some vege..it's not eating them -.- and is it fine if i keep it in tap water?and do i need to put water heater for it?any information is much appreciated smile.gif

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looks like a piggy turtle isn't?

hmm..anyway..i wan to ask..does anybody have a full set of tank for 3 turtles?need them badly...and list the price too...^^


One More...i'm newbie to this Forum....
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QUOTE(oneoone1o1 @ Dec 18 2008, 02:21 PM)
can anyone help me identify what species is this?saw it in front of my house..it's still a baby..and it just won't eat..i tried to give him(her) small pieces of raw chicken meat,sausages,some vege..it's not eating them -.- and is it fine if i keep it in tap water?and do i need to put water heater for it?any information is much appreciated  smile.gif
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Amyda cartilaginea - Asian Softshelled Turtle ??

As WC try a few live stuff ie live shrimp , guppy , baby goldfish ....... !!






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dang..i wrong..
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dang..i wrong..
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The colour is not right for a start !!
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thanks for the info man, I'll try it out =)
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thanks for the info man, I'll try it out =)
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After some thoughts I think could be some other species ! Could you please post a pic of its underside ?


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ohh...i thought the colour is the lumut thingy...hehe....hey does anyone can recommend me a basking light for my 3 turtle pet??
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Exo-terra's swamp glo should be good for your turtles, what turtles do you have anyway? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 19 2008, 06:20 AM)
After some thoughts I think could be some other species ! Could you please post a pic of its underside ?
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QUOTE(oneoone1o1 @ Dec 19 2008, 06:39 PM)
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Pelodiscus sinensis - Chinese Softshell Turtle

As I was thinking local species !!

But the reddish plastron says it all !! Unless it was feed coloured fish pellets before !!

Where about are you in Kuching ?? As I know there are a few farms breeding this sp for sale in Kuching !!


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Sui yu? Isn't sui yu's underside white?
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Sui yu? Isn't sui yu's underside white?
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As if there is only one sp of "Sui yu" in the world !!

Google softshell turtle and you will know !!


By the way if it is indeed a Pelodiscus sinensis - Chinese Softshell Turtle The underside will turn white as it grow up !!!

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When i mean sui yu, i mean the ones they cook for soup dude.

Would you like to cook a fly river turtle for dinner? smile.gif And i don't think anyone calls soft shells "sui yu" other than the ones people use for boiling soup.

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well....how to post up my turtles?


Added on December 19, 2008, 8:33 pmhere they are....any ideas??

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ok..if i'm not mistaken they're Red Eared Sliders...and..which lamp is the best for them?UVB or UVA?

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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 19 2008, 09:06 PM)
When i mean sui yu, i mean the ones they cook for soup dude.

Would you like to cook a fly river turtle for dinner?  smile.gif And i don't think anyone calls soft shells "sui yu" other than the ones people use for boiling soup.
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Up to you to think that there is only one paticular sp that all call "Sui yu " !! But hey which sp is that then ??

And that paticular sp with a coloured underside is originaly from north asia - China , Taiwan , Hong Kong ....etc So should be the original "SuiYu" even before Malaysia has any Chinese ( You Malaysian Chinese rite ) !!

And your supposed " Suiyu" deemed for soup has white underside ( why ? you might ask , because all those you have tasted / seen are local sp ) !! LOL

And yes I dont mind cooking / having fly river turtle for dinner and have tasted them before in PNG and North Australia !! And I bet the natives there call them " SuiYu " in their own language !!! Thats what they are for - tucker before they reach the pet trade !! !

Go out more and read up more before leaving comments !!


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Good for you you have tasted, now i know what to try smile.gif

Yeah, i am malaysian chinese, and also, im also sure that lots of people here including me, (besides you) have only seen the ones they serve in chinese restaurants, and usually have white undersides smile.gif .

I also think that soft shell turtles they serve in shops, also are called sui yu, and like you said, to the locals, in north aussie or what other places you stated, might be called sui yu, but to us? blink.gif

I don't want to cause a racket here. Just stating out what i think.

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Dec 19 2008, 08:51 PM)
As if there is only one sp of "Sui yu"  in the world !!

Google softshell turtle and you will know !!
By the way if it is indeed a [b]Pelodiscus sinensis - Chinese Softshell Turtle The underside will turn white as it grow up !!![/B]
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 19 2008, 09:58 PM)
Good for you you have tasted, now i know what to try  smile.gif

Yeah, i am malaysian chinese, and also, im also sure that lots of people here including me, (besides you) have only seen the ones they serve in chinese restaurants, and usually have white undersides  smile.gif .

I also think that soft shell turtles they serve in shops, also are called sui yu, and like you said, to the locals, the might be called sui yu, but to us?  blink.gif


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When they're big smile.gif , and usually the softshells in restaurants are adult size


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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 19 2008, 10:13 PM)
When they're big  smile.gif , and usually the softshells in restaurants are adult size
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Added on December 20, 2008, 12:49 amok..if i'm not mistaken my turtle is Red Eared Sliders...and..which lamp is the best for them?UVB or UVA?pls...reply ASAP pls...T.T

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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 19 2008, 08:06 PM)
When i mean sui yu, i mean the ones they cook for soup dude.

Would you like to cook a fly river turtle for dinner?  smile.gif And i don't think anyone calls soft shells "sui yu" other than the ones people use for boiling soup.
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 19 2008, 08:58 PM)
Good for you you have tasted, now i know what to try  smile.gif

Yeah, i am malaysian chinese, and also, im also sure that lots of people here including me, (besides you) have only seen the ones they serve in chinese restaurants, and usually have white undersides  smile.gif .

I also think that soft shell turtles they serve in shops, also are called sui yu, and like you said, to the locals, in north aussie or what other places you stated,  might be called sui yu, but to us?  blink.gif

I don't want to cause a racket here. Just stating out what i think.
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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Dec 19 2008, 09:13 PM)
When they're big  smile.gif , and usually the softshells in restaurants are adult size
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hi guys..long time did not post anything...just want to know from all the sifu here..this is my new turtles.are they cumberland sliders(Trachemys scripta troosti)?i have check in the internet,but still not sure...

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and the picture below is also my new turtle..it is a special RES because it is blind!!emm anyone in here have some experience rearing this kind of turtle?or any advices for me?

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tq...

long live ttt!!!!!!!!!
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Nice turtles kaseinogen smile.gif

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tq beardiekid..
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tq beardiekid..
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i get them from jalan pasar pudu..they are in an aquarium with many RES..but i manage to spot the different in them because the color of their carapacea is different and they did not have red line on the head..so glad to have them..hahaha..
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The one in petaling street? I wanna
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not at petaling street lo...at jalan pudu...or many call jalan pasar..
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Ok, you chose them out from RES, so they'll be prob 10bucks +?
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QUOTE(kaseinogen @ Dec 20 2008, 04:40 PM)
hi guys..long time did not post anything...just want to know from all the sifu here..this is my new turtles.are they cumberland sliders(Trachemys scripta troosti)?i have check in the internet,but still not sure...
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hey bro kaseinogen(tong rite?)grad oledi?where are u now?or still in UM?how 'bout ur TTT and BP?still keeping them? laugh.gif
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bro and sis
i got 1 problem with my common snapper =(
duno why 1 of the snapper butt hole there come out 1 long thing kind the gray color and this morning i see the butt hole there bleed abit
i unable to identify is a poo or penis or internal organ , please help me

i try my best to upload the photo
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u put them together?maybe the other one bite it..but if u upload the pic,maybe someone here know what happened to it and how to solve that problem icon_rolleyes.gif ..
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beardiekid: i buy it for rm5 only..heheheh... biggrin.gif

camillenoir:ohhh..thanx for the explaination....ermmm..until now i still confuse
the different between sliders and cooters.... rclxub.gif

slackerz:hi slackerz...im still staying in 11 college..but not as student..i have appointed to be coordinators here..heheheh
all my TTT are still with me and they get even bigger right now..and the spp that i have also bigger now..
the latest was the turtles in the picture and an alligator snaping turtle..heheheh..my favourite turtle..at last i get to rear it.
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QUOTE(ELM0 @ Dec 21 2008, 09:46 PM)
bro and sis
i got 1 problem with my common snapper =(
duno why 1 of the snapper butt hole there come out 1 long thing kind the gray color and this morning i see the butt hole there bleed abit
i unable to identify is a poo or penis or internal organ , please help me

i try my best to upload the photo
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Till see pic to confirm , at the meantime my guess is the grey colour thing is its sex organ !!

How are they house ? Filters used ? Diet ?

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QUOTE(kaseinogen @ Dec 22 2008, 02:33 AM)
slackerz:hi slackerz...im still staying in 11 college..but not as student..i have appointed to be coordinators here..heheheh
all my TTT are still with me and they get even bigger right now..and the spp that i have also bigger now..
the latest was the turtles in the picture and an alligator snaping turtle..heheheh..my favourite turtle..at last i get to rear it.
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Ignorance kills my pet

Hi all. I'm not expecting any feedbacks on my post.
I just wanna to express my bottled-up emotions as I just lost my malayan box turtle yesterday.
She was given to me by my neighbour about 10 years ago. (I was in Form 5 back then).
She was an intelligent yet a bit shy girl.
She likes to sniff my toes as a sign of curiocity (I think).
She was very picky with her food. She likes shrimps and fishball. Sometimes I fed her boiled fish.
She dislikes veggies and fruits though. I tried to feed her bananas and papayas but she didn't shows any interest towards them.
On weekends, I would release her in my backyard and let her explores it as during weekdays she was confined in a basin.
I don't think she will enjoy living in a standard size aquarium throughout her life due to her large size.

But, for the past 2 months, she seems very tired....always sleeps during the day.
She eats less and sometimes do not want to eat for days.
When I put her at my backyard, she would not move an inch.
After several hours, she will be in the same spot where I put her earlier.
The obvious symptoms of her illness is her mouth will be foaming and she displays some sort of an anxiety in her intestine when I put her on land.
Strangely, she didn't show these acts when I put her back in the basin.
I thought that maybe she was foaming due to the hot sun.
I never bother in sending her to the vet as I had bad feedback from the local Jabatan Haiwan (Seremban).
Several years ago, when I sent my cat for treatment, I asked the Jabatan Haiwan's vet whether he would accept to examine a box turtle & terrapins.
I was turned down as the vet said that he don't have any experience in handling them.
Up until today, I always have a negative perception that vets only will treat dogs & cats as they are the common pets.

I still blame my self for not being more sensitive towards her. Her death was caused by my ignorance!

Personally, having pets means you need to have full commitment in living with them.
Once you start to grow up and having jobs and other commitments, you must develop your exit strategy if you think that you can't rear them anymore.
Some will take the easy way by dumping them back in the wild or some public lake/pond garden or even worse...the sewage/drainage system.
You could pass your pet to your younger relatives if they are interested in them.
Yes... these turtle do look cute and exotic while they are still in their baby stage.
They are easy to carry around and look after since they are still small. But as time flies, they will grow up and so does you.
You will have other priorities such as studies, office/works, family etc.
Remember that these pets are also a part of your family and they deserve to be loved and cared unquestionably.
I just hope that others will not be as ignorant as I did to my pet. Farewell.


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Greetings,

Does the PH of the water used for the turtle's aquarium will affect its health condition leading to any illness or skin disease ? unsure.gif

Regards,
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Added on December 22, 2008, 3:13 pmIs there any solution to heal 2 of my customer's turtles ... whereby :-

1. Is having white spots on the hands & legs with eye bloated as well
2. Is not eating the food that have been provided ..

What shall my customer do with it ? smile.gif

Thank you.

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Greetings,

Does the PH of the water used for the turtle's aquarium will affect its health condition leading to any illness or skin disease ? unsure.gif

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that 500kB PNG image is hosted by imageshack, takes forever to load and slowing my PIII system down.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 23 2008, 12:23 PM)
that 500kB PNG image is hosted by imageshack, takes forever to load and slowing my PIII system down.
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has nothing to do with CPU, it's screamyx problem sleep.gif
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has nothing to do with CPU, it's screamyx problem sleep.gif
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could anyone tell me the different of sliders and cooters?ihave been sarching in the web but still did not get the answers.... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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these info can only be obtained through years of scraping turtle ponds haha

i) Natural habitat of Pseudemys (aka cooter/Florida turtle) is around southeastern US while Trachemys (slider) are found much further south.

ii) Pseudemys generally gets bigger (to around 40cm) than Trachemys (around 30cm)

iii) Adult Pseudemys are highly herbivorous while Trachemys are highly carnivorous.

iv) Most adult male Trachemys tend to develop melanism while the occurence of melanism in adult male Pseudemys is lesser.

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v) Trachemys is more aggressive than Pseudemys

vi) Head Markings: Most Trachemys have a line behind the eyes which is notably wider and most of the time, red or reddish. The markings of Pseudemys are not that prominent.

vii) I'd say the pattern on the carapace of hatchling Pseudemys is more ornate than hatchling Trachemys (although not as beautiful as Graptemys in general).

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viii) Most sellers will sell Pseudemys at prices much higher than RES. your are really lucky to have them @ RM5!

p/s: kasei bro, when your Pseudemys gets too big, my Pseudemys colony can always welcome new family members laugh.gif

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tq camillenoir for such this big info..now i understand a little bit..thanx bro..heheheh..
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tq camillenoir for such this big info..now i understand a little bit..thanx bro..heheheh..
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my last Malayemys subtrijuga returned to God yesterday, ending my love affairs with shellrots, pus and golden apples. see ya in heaven!

and of course, my far-fetched wish for this new year is for Him to paint some of my newborns off-white pink (weatherbond only) and grant them rubies for eyes wink.gif
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 30 2008, 12:38 PM)
my last Malayemys subtrijuga returned to God yesterday, ending my love affairs with shellrots, pus and golden apples. see ya in heaven!

and of course, my far-fetched wish for this new year is for Him to paint some of my newborns off-white pink (weatherbond only) and grant them rubies for eyes  wink.gif
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 30 2008, 01:38 PM)
my last Malayemys subtrijuga returned to God yesterday, ending my love affairs with shellrots, pus and golden apples. see ya in heaven!

and of course, my far-fetched wish for this new year is for Him to paint some of my newborns off-white pink (weatherbond only) and grant them rubies for eyes  wink.gif
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A bit too far-fetched ? But its possible rite ! As many of your animals are WC and thus genes unproven ?

For me I just wish my co-own soccer ball Tortoise will give me some Ping pong size soccer ball !! - So I can train them in time for 2010 FIFA world cup !! LOL
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 30 2008, 12:38 PM)
my last Malayemys subtrijuga returned to God yesterday, ending my love affairs with shellrots, pus and golden apples. see ya in heaven!

and of course, my far-fetched wish for this new year is for Him to paint some of my newborns off-white pink (weatherbond only) and grant them rubies for eyes  wink.gif
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Sweet like candy.
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I want to get a star torstoise as pet, or any other suggested tortoise ??? And i want to know where to get a tortoise??? Ikano per shop??? i stay at BAndar Utama , near 1U? btw what is the price for star tortoirse???
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get some legally imported redfoot better, got license, approved by cites and ibama lol... ikano might have.

p/s: team malagasy already preparing for 2010 world cup smile.gif

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Apparently my friend has consulted our wildlife (PERHILITAN) on keeping of Star Tortoise and other CITES appendix I and II torts and was told that no licence is needed to keep or rear them unless trading/selling in big numbers or involved in import and exportation of these buggers wink.gif

So to date, people can't come into your house and confiscate the torts as PERHILITAN claims no need to apply for licence. When asked where is the source, just say CB or given by a friend. That is the standing rule at the moment. Just be a bit more careful if planning to sell and buy new ones...

Before this, we were always told that if authorities find out you have some ST or the like, they might barge in and confiscate them...well not the case in real life but nevertheless, keeping a low profile is always the way to go.

And please beware of tortoise farms from Cameroon. They are 90% fraud/scams and offer you torts at ridiculously cheap price. When a deal seems too good to be true, then it probably is wink.gif
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 30 2008, 10:27 PM)
get some legally imported redfoot better, got license, approved by cites and ibama lol... ikano might have.

p/s: team malagasy already preparing for 2010 world cup  smile.gif
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Ya , Redfoot are so much easier to care for beside many being legally imported !

p/s Our Team Burma 's quota already filled just awaiting their appearence !!
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Apparently my friend has consulted our wildlife (PERHILITAN) on keeping of Star Tortoise and other CITES appendix I and II torts and was told that no licence is needed to keep or rear them unless trading/selling in big numbers or involved in import and exportation of these buggers wink.gif

So to date, people can't come into your house and confiscate the torts as PERHILITAN claims no need to apply for licence. When asked where is the source, just say CB or given by a friend. That is the standing rule at the moment. Just be a bit more careful if planning to sell and buy new ones...

Before this, we were always told that if authorities find out you have some ST or the like, they might barge in and confiscate them...well not the case in real life but nevertheless, keeping a low profile is always the way to go.
please state the name, contact no and designation of the perhilitan officer who told your friend that no license is needed for individual owners to keep CITES I and II animals

and you better retract your statement before those who knew better give you a big gangbang.

p/s: have you ever gone fishing?

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 31 2008, 08:25 AM)

p/s: have you ever gone fishing?
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LOL at this statement. Agree with you Cam. They are putting a big bait out there. Bro Ogamix, just be extra careful. Trust what you see not what you hear.
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please post more tortoise, i want to see how to arrange tortoise cage. thq
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Condolences to you bro camill, my last Malayemys Subtrijuga soldiers decided to gave up their life and join their ancestors. Might try again in the near future if money is not the issue LOL

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howdy....3 Amigo (RES) reporting in.....


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QUOTE(atok194 @ Jan 1 2009, 05:02 PM)
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howdy....3 Amigo (RES) reporting in.....
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Hello welcome to this thread !!

Sorry to tell you something unpleasant upon first reply - if you do not already know , the top RES has some infection to the shell !!!

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HOLY f***?! WHICH ONE??

Jacky = In this water
Jeft = below Jacky (on the wood)
Jacko = below Jeft (on the wood)
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Dec 31 2008, 08:25 AM)
please state the name, contact no and designation of the perhilitan officer who told your friend that no license is needed for individual owners to keep CITES I and II animals

and you better retract your statement before those who knew better give you a big gangbang.

p/s: have you ever gone fishing?
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Well, I am just stating what was told by the Officer to my friend at Wildlife, his name is Ahmad.

It's very simple, just use your cousin's house phone and make a call to Wildlife and ask around, if you are asked to

apply for licence, then pls state the name and designation of the officer who told you.

All the news articles about IST being confiscated at airports and the like are due to unlicenced importation and smuggling.

CITES Appendix I licence can be issued if you look at CITES website. Annex I doesnt mean impossible to issue.

Anyway, no need to retract statement, if you want the truth, just ask wildlife...pls update yourself and enlighten us ya.

Dont live in the past...Happy New year!
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QUOTE(atok194 @ Jan 1 2009, 07:40 PM)
HOLY f***?! WHICH ONE??

Jacky = In this water
Jeft = below Jacky (on the wood)
Jacko = below Jeft (on the wood)
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Well, I am just stating what was told by the Officer to my friend at Wildlife, his name is Ahmad.

It's very simple, just use your cousin's house phone and make a call to Wildlife and ask around, if you are asked to

apply for licence, then pls state the name and designation  of the officer who told you.

All the news articles about IST being confiscated at airports and the like are due to unlicenced importation and smuggling.

CITES Appendix I licence can be issued if you look at CITES website. Annex I doesnt mean impossible to issue.
Anyway, no need to retract statement, if you want the truth, just ask wildlife...pls update yourself and enlighten us ya.

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I and my friend are very interested in this part !!

- Can you or your friend Ahmad help / guide us thru this , CITES Appendix I licence !!

You thought one could just apply for one ( CITES I especially ) after you declare your animals , pay a fine or some sort !!

We dont live in the past but just being real as some ( not meaning you but those so call officers who inform your friend ) can lie thru their nose just to set bait !!





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well...how to cure my jacky sickness.....he is very active.....not like jeft and jacko..they just sit on the wood and sleep..never eat...never move..never go swim...it's kinda scary...at first when i buy they 2...they very healthy...after a few days..they become like that..it's already 3 weeks they stay at that position without moving and do anthing...pls...help me..huhuhuuh...i wan all my turtles are active like my jacky...so please..anyone can help??pls...

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Well, I am just stating what was told by the Officer to my friend at Wildlife, his name is Ahmad.

It's very simple, just use your cousin's house phone and make a call to Wildlife and ask around, if you are asked to

apply for licence, then pls state the name and designation  of the officer who told you.

All the news articles about IST being confiscated at airports and the like are due to unlicenced importation and smuggling.

CITES Appendix I licence can be issued if you look at CITES website. Annex I doesnt mean impossible to issue.
Anyway, no need to retract statement, if you want the truth, just ask wildlife...pls update yourself and enlighten us ya.

Dont live in the past...Happy New year!


1st: you didn't even get firsthand information. your statement is based solely on loose oral sources.

2nd: you're either royalty, high-ranking politician or plainly uninformed, because not even zoos can get cites 1 license that easily.

3rd: you are not even aware of past year's turmoil. haha. good luck living in the new year.

4th: i'd rather pose as Noorul Rafiq Khan, Peter Parker or even Kayden Kross when talking to prospective offenders, because not even a 5th grader would believe in a beard-spinner who simply calls himself Ali, Abu or any 2-syllable name beginning with Alpha.

from those points, i could only conclude that you certainly know nuts about wildlife, cites, license application, etc; so once again, please retract your statement. we don't want anyone to get into trouble for believing in false information.

p/s: i certainly won't go fishing with you, that's for sure.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 1 2009, 11:22 PM)
4th: i'd rather pose as Noorul Rafiq Khan, Peter Parker or even Kayden Kross when talking to prospective offenders, because not even a 5th grader would believe a beard-spinner who simply calls himself Ali.
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I happen to know a beard-spinner named Sham. Lol!

Cabuuttt!
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Added on January 1, 2009, 11:34 pmNoorul Rafiq Khan, Peter Parker, Kayden Kross or beard-spinner named Sham ? Can u guys help me ? icon_question.gif

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i'd love to get a Tomistoma some day.

maybe if i tell wildlife people that it was a gift from my friend, i could get away with it and live happily ever after.

wakakaka...

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orang utan would be a better bet, better companion for you bro. tongue.gif

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I happen to know a beard-spinner named Sham. Lol!

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that guy went missing already, maybe got married to some Balinese girl on his last trip and decided to stay there happily ever after.

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orang utan would be a better bet, better companion for you bro. tongue.gif
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maybe if i shave him a little bit, dress him like a hobo and named him semundseth riise, those perhilitan would leave us alone when i tell them the orangutan is a red-haired cousin of mine visiting from norway.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 1 2009, 11:44 PM)
that guy went missing already, maybe got married to some Balinese girl on his last trip and decided to stay there happily ever after.
Kayden can hook you up to some rare exotic pets  wink.gif
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balinese maa... not aborigine.
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QUOTE(atok194 @ Jan 1 2009, 11:00 PM)
well...how to cure my jacky sickness.....he is very active.....not like jeft and jacko..they just sit on the wood and sleep..never eat...never move..never go swim...it's kinda scary...at first when i buy they 2...they very healthy...after a few days..they become like that..it's already 3 weeks they stay at that position without moving and do anthing...pls...help me..huhuhuuh...i wan all my turtles are active like my jacky...so please..anyone can help??pls...
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those turtles are trying to get some heat by basking themselves for 3 weeks. get them some basking light.

and filter, or those two will have jacky's carapace soon.
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Since the res are still small, try to sunbath them once in a while under the sun on weekends. That would help them at least.
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 1 2009, 11:22 PM)
1st: you didn't even get firsthand information. your statement is based solely on loose oral sources.

2nd: you're either royalty, high-ranking politician or plainly uninformed, because not even zoos can get cites 1 license that easily.

3rd: you are not even aware of past year's turmoil. haha. good luck living in the new year.

4th: i'd rather pose as Noorul Rafiq Khan, Peter Parker or even Kayden Kross when talking to prospective offenders, because not even a 5th grader would believe in a beard-spinner who simply calls himself Ali, Abu or any 2-syllable name beginning with Alpha.

from those points, i could only conclude that you certainly know nuts about wildlife, cites, license application, etc; so once again, please retract your statement. we don't one anyone to get into trouble for believing in false information.

p/s: i certainly won't go fishing with you, that's for sure.
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I think u shld just call wildlife malaysia and ask (but do it discreetly by using an outside number..duh!), dont waste time by posting stuff that incite a lot of controversy. Unless u claim to be involved in some bigtime smuggling of wildlife and got caught before, thus your unreasonable doubt or maybe u have tried applying for a permit and was trapped ad hoc, then perhaps u can share your exp with us. Was there any newspaper clipping about wildlife barging into a residential home and seizing a few endangered TTT? All the headlines were usually for hundreds of smuggled stuff (IST) that have no proper licence or permit, mostly at checkpoints ie airports etc. There's no provision under the 1972 Wildlife Protection Act regarding keeping them so far(but I believe they might be changing this rule soon or may have already?) but mainly on trading activities involving import/exportation across borders.

We are simply hoping to have more info, that's why it's a forum for discussion. Posts made here is open for discussion and not the law or fact.
I am not royalty and not a high ranking politician but I serve quite high in a company related to the ministry..I know where to ask around. When I say a friend, i hope u r not so naive to think just that. Anyway, it's open for discussion...no point speculating so much, anyone from the forum can simply call up and ask, and post back who the guy was over the phone and what his designation was & conclusion from wildlife. For those like you who are on alarm bells, just ignore it as u shouldnt be troubled if u knew so much. BTW, i did mention that you should be discreet and low profile despite not needing a permit just to keep, not like you shld go and shout around to inform everyone that u have this and that in your care.

However, pls be aware that selling or trading activities are strictly against the law without relevant permit though. Just browse and update wherever relevant:
***this link has been omitted for security reasons, kindly google search it if interested in wildlife website*** icon_rolleyes.gif

There's one table on Fi licence where you can see the charges for poaching activities allowed and licence needed. There's one part that states any activity involving a protected species requires a licence. So out of sheer curiosity, my source contacted them to clarify twice..they did ask where did u get the TTT, say CB or given by friend and unsure where he/she got it from, reply was no need apply for licence if just keeping unless u are trading or importing..then need CITES permit, shortly they hung up..maybe as you figured, a few pieces they arent interested. Anyway, if u happen to be well informed, kindly shed some light on this and update us IF u can wink.gif I am always looking for exp sharing but keep it friendly and not argumentative wink.gif I like the way how Valjean and Samperth phrase things, you should learn from them.

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well, you should learn that when somebody new has the balls to make a big statement like this

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Apparently my friend has consulted our wildlife (PERHILITAN) on keeping of Star Tortoise and other CITES appendix I and II torts and was told that no licence is needed to keep or rear them unless trading/selling in big numbers or involved in import and exportation of these buggers wink.gif

So to date, people can't come into your house and confiscate the torts as PERHILITAN claims no need to apply for licence. When asked where is the source, just say CB or given by a friend. That is the standing rule at the moment. Just be a bit more careful if planning to sell and buy new ones...

Before this, we were always told that if authorities find out you have some ST or the like, they might barge in and confiscate them...well not the case in real life but nevertheless, keeping a low profile is always the way to go.
like it was the fact, in a public forum, he/she should expect argumentative discussion. you're the one that posted stuff that incite controversy, plus you refused to retract them when i told you so (edit function easy to use, eh?).

plus, it is f*cking rude for you to ask me to update myself and not live in the past when it is evident that you're the one giving false advice while being unaware of stuff that happened in the real world. need i say more?

the info your friend got?. people had already given you hints on this matter, but you don't seem to understand.

p/s: you just gave me the address of perhilitan. that's quite a joke considering...

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Omega, about the license thingy there is no way u can get away even if the said specimen was given by a fren or "cb" because the thumb rule is that any cites related animal, especially cites 1 are no where to be accepted as "ok". For the officers to say its ok, i think its just another bait to capture those animal keeper and confiscate their animal.

I think you need to read more on V2 and V3 to get the rough idea on what's happening now, so that you would understand why people here reacted that way. I know you want to share with us on the info given to you but we were stating the real world situation and explaining things to you from our experiences.
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 2 2009, 02:01 AM)
well, you should learn that when somebody new has the balls to make a big statement like this
like it was the fact, in a public forum, he/she should expect argumentative discussion. you're the one that posted stuff that incite controversy, plus you refused to retract them when i told you so (edit function easy to use, eh?).

plus, it is f*cking rude for you to ask me to update myself and not live in the past when it is evident that you're the one giving false advice while being unaware of stuff that happened in the real world. need i say more?

the info your friend got?. people had already given you hints on this matter, but you don't seem to understand.

p/s: you just gave me the address of perhilitan. that's quite a joke considering...
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U remind me of someone who cant have his/her opinion doubted from your comments above. If comments are not accurate, you can courteously correct them and give your opinion like uzairi or valjean. No need to recourse to foul language and brute force. It gives ppl an idea that you have a very big ego and can't stand to be corrected or even accept the fact that everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. You may be quite helpful sometimes in your post about TTT but pls show some manners and courtesy in your post even if you disagree. It's just about sharing. Kindly see how ppl with some integrity and manners reply..eg samperth, uzairi and valjean. . . these will be ppl whose opinion i accept and respect, not someone who curse and mock others albeit sarcastically. We are in this for the same interest on TTT, otherwise you think I would bother to reply or even post anything. From your reply and mannerism, I can gauge your level of maturity and humility..although I had much higher expectations of you from your earlier posts and I really hope you would maintain your earlier standards.

BTW, the address of PERHILITAN is all over the google search..I have read most of the available news clipping that happened in the past and even some overseas ones. It's new year, and to just leave things as it is, I wish u and family a happy and peaceful new year. There is no need for any hostility or insult but thx again for your comments above. Just hope that readers take things with an open mind here. I rest my case. Take care guys.


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Omega, about the license thingy there is no way u can get away even if the said specimen was given by a fren or "cb" because the thumb rule is that any cites related animal, especially cites 1 are no where to be accepted as "ok". For the officers to say its ok, i think its just another bait to capture those animal keeper and confiscate their animal.

I think you need to read more on V2 and V3 to get the rough idea on what's happening now, so that you would understand why people here reacted that way. I know you want to share with us on the info given to you but we were stating the real world situation and explaining things to you from our experiences.
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Thanks uzairi, point taken. Happy New Year to u and fam ya! tongue.gif

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funny guy... before i leave, let's just say that it's a joke to tell musa hassan's escort the address to bukit aman... because maybe, he could see that address every morning he walks into office wink.gif

oh no, i'm being sarcastic again, can't help myself. but every tom, d*** and harry knows (well, maybe not all) that beneath my every word, there's an obvious, useful message underneath. brute force? haha..

samperth's partner (emystiong) and even our spiritual leader (haha) scales had disagreements with me in the past while uzairi, rafiqos, mamba and lessilly still make gangbangs on me. we had all produced our fair share of sarcasms to one another. it is quite fun to thrash them to pulps, but i do get along well with them all since they could provide reasonable and valid discussion points.

naa.. matters closed. happy new year to you too.

p/s: my ego's so big, it took 5 playmates to shrink it (they like brute force)

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those turtles are trying to get some heat by basking themselves for 3 weeks. get them some basking light.

and filter, or those two will have jacky's carapace soon.
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Since the res are still small, try to sunbath them once in a while under the sun on weekends. That would help them at least.
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 2 2009, 07:48 AM)
funny guy... before i leave, let's just say that it's a joke to tell musa hassan's escort the address to bukit aman...  because maybe, he could see that address every morning he walks into office  wink.gif

oh no, i'm being sarcastic again, can't help myself. but every tom, d*** and harry knows (well, maybe not all) that beneath my every word, there's an obvious, useful message underneath. brute force? haha..

samperth's partner (emystiong) and even our spiritual leader (haha) scales had disagreements with me in the past while uzairi, rafiqos, mamba and lessilly still make gangbangs on me. we had all produced our fair share of sarcasms to one another. it is quite fun to thrash them to pulps, but i do get along well with them all since they could provide reasonable and valid discussion points.

naa.. matters closed. happy new year to you too.

p/s: my ego's so big, it took 5 playmates to shrink it (they like brute force)
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i consult a member of perhilitan from www.forum.docserpent.com ,
he was known as shieldtox.
i ask for a friend's star tortoise that have to do with permit and he said for the moment, my friend need not to worry first, cause the permit issue will be announce in febuary, thats what i was told.
if need license, then he said go to pejabat and apply.

FYI, my friend has one ST.
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permit?does someone can list out what species of turtle that we need to have permit ?
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i consult a member of perhilitan from www.forum.docserpent.com ,
he was known as shieldtox.
i ask for a friend's star tortoise that have to do with permit and he said for the moment, my friend need not to worry first, cause the permit issue will be announce in febuary, thats what i was told.
if need license, then he said go to pejabat and apply.

FYI, my friend has one ST.
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Whats the difference between permit and license?
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Whats the difference between permit and license?
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I would take a rough guess and say they mean the same thing just different words
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hey,i realised that my Jacko is like bersalin kulit blink.gif blink.gif but as far i can see it only happens at his head shocking.gif .this is normal? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif


oh ya anyway..thanks for the sunbath advice...it really work....finally they move a bit but they still doesn't want to eat.....

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well, google CITEs, the list of info will pop out...
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i have a question.

if i leave my kure-kure in the same container i put him when he was small until now so big aredi, will it not grow?

as in like, some fishies they grow according to the place they were put in.

are kure-kure same as the fishies?

cuz he quite big but i see not so much growth since i last got it in 2006/2007
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QUOTE(whitewolf @ Jan 9 2009, 12:09 AM)
i have a question.

if i leave my kure-kure in the same container i put him when he was small until now so big aredi, will it not grow?

as in like, some fishies they grow according to the place they were put in.

are kure-kure same as the fishies?

cuz he quite big but i see not so much growth since i last got it in 2006/2007
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hey guys . i have a problem and i have no idea where to ask,since this is the turtle forum, il ask my question here.


i have 4 turtles , 3 res and one long neck turtle. and a 3 feet aquarium.

the problem is maintaining the aquarium.
after i change the water , the water in the aquarium goes clouddy and muddy so quickly. Like 3-4 days after the water cchange. I dont have time as im buzy in college most of it and its hard to take care off. cleaning a 3ft tank is kinda hard coz i have to drag the heavy aquarium to the bathroom once a week...

my RES also looks unhealthy and im kinda sad =[

i have a filter but i dont tink its working good enough.

and ive been looking all over where to purchase basking spots for my turtle...

would anyone kindly give me tips on what type of stuff do i buy [ filters,heating lights ] and where? checked out other forums but too much info can be so confusing!

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i dont want to make my turtles suffer
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post Jan 10 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Jan 10 2009, 06:33 PM)
hey guys . i have a problem and i have no idea where to ask,since this is the turtle forum, il ask my question here.
i have 4 turtles , 3 res and one long neck turtle. and a 3 feet aquarium.

the problem is maintaining the aquarium.
after i change the water , the water in the aquarium goes clouddy and muddy so quickly. Like 3-4 days after the water cchange. I dont have time as im buzy in college most of it and its hard to take care off. cleaning a 3ft tank is kinda hard coz i have to drag the heavy aquarium to the bathroom once a week...

my RES also looks unhealthy and im kinda sad =[

i have a filter but i dont tink its working good enough.

and ive been looking all over where to purchase basking spots for my turtle...

would anyone kindly give me tips on what type of stuff do i buy [ filters,heating lights ] and where?  checked out other forums but too much info can be so confusing!

ure help is most appreciatedd icon_question.gif
i dont want to make my turtles suffer
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a bigger filter is necessary for big tanks... add some beneficial bacteria inside to further decompose the poo and uneaten food....

u dont need to drag the whole aquarium to the toilet ler... siphon the water out and replace with clean water... use a sponge to clean the stubborn dirt before siphoning the water out...

basking spot can use any nice flat rock/stone... how large/tall depending on how deep ur water level is... try get rocks with flat surface and minimal sharp edges to prevent cuts to ur turtle....

lights must use UVA n UVB lights....

jz my 2 cents..
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post Jan 11 2009, 01:04 AM

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maybe u need bigger filter.sometimes their food like uneaten pellet also make the water cloudy.but i dont think RES can let the food left uneaten,ha3..and thats right,no need to drag ur heavy aquarium,just use tube..one more,u can buy that floating 'basking spot' at pet safari..

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maybe u need bigger filter.sometimes their food like uneaten pellet also make the water cloudy.but i dont think RES can let the food left uneaten,ha3..and thats right,no need to drag ur heavy aquarium,just use tube..one more,u can buy that floating 'basking spot' at pet safari..
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hey thanks for all the kind replies...

where is pet safari? and can anyone estimate the price for basking spot lighting etc for a 3.5 ft tank ( i just double checked and its 3.5 ft )

what brand of filter model and what not.. beneficial bacteria as in?
sorry im a total noob.. and sorry for a lot of questions icon_question.gif
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post Jan 11 2009, 11:58 PM

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do u know IKEA or Ikano?not far from ONE UTAMA.actually,where do u live,ha3.for basking spot lighting,just ask nonono,he sell that kind of stuff.to make thing easier and cheaper la..ha3.

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