beneficial bacteria is usually used in planted tanks to convert ammonia into nitrate and nitrite... it breaks down the uneaten food and poo faster.... nitrate and nitrite is good for plants....

put some gravel/soil in ur tank can do some gardening adi... hehehe....

I think I remember somewhere in this thread that state something about setting Cherry Head and the regular Red Footed apart

Heres the largest different !!

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Enjoy

yeah,good sample SAM..really nice and really obvious... before this,i only know to differentiate it by looking at their downside..otherwise,i cannot sure whether cherry head or not..ha3

This post has been edited by slackerz: Jan 12 2009, 07:22 PM

yeah but pretty far.staying in kajang n not free coz college st sunday will go...

filter get in ikea ? em...price?what brand recommend?

and whos nonono...plz pm me

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Added on January 12, 2009, 11:33 pmoh thanks for the info..what brand is good? and gravel n soil...as in? thanks anyway!

This post has been edited by Ridt_Henshin: Jan 12 2009, 11:33 PM

not sure though... i'm new in turtles... well, not actually... last time during primary i had one a few years until he died.... now i'm researching on behalf of my sis who wants to keep turtle... lolz....

beneficial bacteria can buy from LFS... but i'm not sure how much to apply would it be safe for turtles...

as for gravel, small ones will do... such as this one..



after dat can sumbat a few pokok inside and hope it will grow... lolz....

if ur water filter is strong enough, i dont think u need bacteria... if u not planning to plant any pokok... hehe...

erk!no,not get in ikea.i mean,pet safari located there,same building in IKEA.but at ikano side,level 3.maybe u can get ur stuff at local fish shop.near to ur place.about nonono,maybe u can find him here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/782607
but since u stay so far from here,i suggest u just get from nearest LFS.or u dont need to provide basking light if u can give them sunbath everyweek..about plant some aquatic plant in the RES enclosure,i dun think it can grow well because RES will graze it b4 it can grow,ha3.but for further information,u can ask Uzairi or others that expert in turtles care.they just dont have theories,but experiences in it.

thanks ya uzairi!

most important is don't feed too much food to them , if they cant finish the water will become dirty

any natural method we can decompose the uneaten food and poo so the water wouldnt be dirty so fast??... i've read articles online saying using beneficial bacteria or some sort to decompose the bacteria (ammonia) into nitrate and nitrite....

does nitrate and nitrite or those bacteria harm turtles??..

hi guys,

do u know anywhere can get vermiculite?

benificial bacteria is like effective microorganism, you can get from jabatan pertanian. i got the contact, but not with me now. they sell in big quantity, i think its not suitable lah. i will work on it.

vermiculite, you can go to www.forum.docserpent.com search for one person call docserpent, i think he has got them. but he stay in johore.

what if i use those for planted tanks??... such as ADA bacterball... i'm gonna buy one for my nano planted tank... if can i derma some to my turtle tank so the poo can decompose faster.....

lots of them at ace hardware. but currently they only have horticultural grade under horti brand, which crumbles easily when squeezed. the one i use (can't remember brand, bought so long ago) lasts for years.

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as for em products, many agriculture-related vendors carry them now, many nurseries too. i'm not gonna list every single shop (for that we have google). lum chin nursery (sri petaling) might have, bazaar pkps (seri kembangan) ground floor there's 1 shop should have, etc etc

but then again, unless you're a nitrate/nitrite/ammonia-count freak, no major differences can be seen after em usage to turtle tanks that have both good filtration system and change water frequently. i tried them on 11-12 turtle ponds, poos do decompose faster... but still need to count on strong filtration system to clean the huge amount of mess. so, i could only deduce that the need for microbes in turtle tanks is only secondary (just like applying 1.010-1.008 gravity for cb Malaclemys, LOL) but if anyone wants to try, go ahead.

the main benefits of em i could observe is when used as additives to drinking water for galliformes - greatly reduce the smell of poos. so if any Testudinidae keepers want to try on their animals, please be welcomed to do so and send your results here. (disclaimer: please do so at your own discretion and i am not liable to any damages )

when senior member appeared,this thread become alive..

oh... alright... thanks... because i do nothing their poo is kinda huge.... plus the turtle stick sure gonna make the water dirty....

That gravel pictured above is not recommended because the turtles can accidentally swallow the small gravels over time. What i can suggest is, use biological + chemical filter element combo to get the best result. For biological filter element, you can use crushed corals/molluscan shells and for chemical filter element you can use charcoals. A good powerfull pump, good quality wool filter element + biological + chemical filter element combo would get the job done just fine. A monthly change for the wool filter element and once in 3-4 months for the charcoal would result in greater cleaning power and long lasting clear water for your fellow testudines

This post has been edited by uzairi: Jan 15 2009, 01:21 AM

ohh... okok... because i saw CTY aquarium in penang also uses such gravel for their turtle display tank....

means a strong filter is alwiz the best solution??... hmm... looks like i have to add another filter... now changing water weekly kinda tiresome... if can, change water fortnightly....

means anyhow, it is not recommended to put any gravel or pebble at the bottom??... coz the bottom of the tank looks very empty....

what uzairi was trying to say is those gravels are just the right size for turtles to accidentally swallow.

so get bigger ones, those that could not be accidentally swallowed.

p/s: btw, bare bottom setup is much easier to clean.

oh... ok... thanks... i go ask the owner if she wants it easy to clean or looks more appealing... haha....

for display purposes, you might need to get bigger sized gravel with no sharp edges..

bare bottom setup would be the best especially when the water is crystal clear..