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post Apr 3 2013, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 3 2013, 02:15 AM)
if i get a r22 gassed air cond now,then when the gas is phased out o get an r410a gassed unit,wud d pipings be used again or need to change?
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Existing copper piping for R22 cannot be reused with R401A refrigerant. You need to change to new copper piping system which is more thicker and have better insulation to withstand the high pressure of R401A refrigerant.
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post Apr 3 2013, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Apr 3 2013, 07:17 AM)
Existing copper piping for R22 cannot be reused with R401A refrigerant. You need to change to new copper piping system which is more thicker and have better insulation to withstand the high pressure of R401A refrigerant.
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changing piping means hacking walss rite?/
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post Apr 3 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 3 2013, 06:35 PM)
changing piping means hacking walss rite?/
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Just ordered 1hp Hisense air con for my rooms. Any feedback on this brand? Quite cheap ard $7xx inclusive of normal installation. Also bought LG 2hp for living room.
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post Apr 4 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(BTimes @ Apr 3 2013, 10:48 PM)
Just ordered 1hp Hisense air con for my rooms. Any feedback on this brand? Quite cheap ard $7xx inclusive of normal installation. Also bought LG 2hp for living room.
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nvr heard of hisense b4.....LG doesnt seem to come to mind when it comes to aircond
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 2 2013, 10:52 PM)
@stephan_f86: Have you tried the "Powerful" mode? I find that to be quite... powerful. It is noisier though cause the fan is running at full speed.
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havent tried that mode yet.. so far just turned it to 18 and fan speed to max.. since i havent moved in to the house i didnt get a chance to try everything yet..smile.gif
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Jul 26 2008, 04:20 AM)
Nowadays, there are so many brand to choose for air-con...  rclxub.gif
e.g. LG, Electrolux, Haier, Bosch, Toshiba, Hitachi, Panasonic, Samsung, Sharp, York

Which brand do you recommend?
Preferably a durable and long lasting air-con... oh yeah, and also affordable...

Lets discuss...
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Basically every r same..all air cond can cool & hv air flow, the only different r $$RM, running cost, noise level and warrantty (reliablity only).

most important r d INSTALLER - installation procedure and material using.


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QUOTE(Jude.cst @ Apr 4 2013, 06:04 PM)
Basically every r same..all air cond can cool & hv air flow, the only different r $$RM, running cost, noise level and warrantty (reliablity only).

most important r d  INSTALLER - installation procedure and material using.
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post Apr 4 2013, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 4 2013, 04:18 PM)
nvr heard of hisense b4.....LG doesnt seem to come to mind when it comes to aircond
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I just whack the brand given the low price that comes with free 10 ft piping and installation. My house will be a holiday house so that air-con might be only switched on for a few nights once every few months. Slightly under $800 RM per unit for 1 hp, slightly under $1000 RM for 1.5 hp and slightly around $1400 RM for 2 hp. The LG is $70 RM more for 2hp, so I just took LG. Hope things turn out well.
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QUOTE(speedipus @ Mar 24 2013, 05:51 PM)
FTKD42GVM is 1.75hp, right?
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Yes. FTKD42GVM is 1.7HP. PM send.
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Hi,

I need your opinions regarding the quality and price of the aircon.. The price might be a little expensive in Perlis. I just came back from the aircon shop. Went to look for which air con to buy . House is too hot..Weather is around 41 degrees celcius!

I need one aircon for my sitting room which is 15 ft x 27 with direct sunlight. Is 2 HP enough? Usually one or 2 person only in my sitting room. I use the room like 8-9 hours per day.

I heard alot about Mitsubishi and the salesman showed me a normal mitsubishi with 4 air flows 2HP around RM2299 including installation. Then there's another one 2HP mitsubishi 3D with 8 airflows ( meaning it flows to the top, bottom, right, left and everywhere) around RM2699 including installation. The salesman says the 3D one saves energy and self cleaning.

Anyone using this mitsubishi 3D aircon? It is good and saves energy? Is the price too expensive? Should I get the normal mitsubishi at RM2299 or the 3D one?

Or panasonic better?

Thanks in advance smile.gif

This post has been edited by nafizz: Apr 4 2013, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 4 2013, 04:18 PM)
nvr heard of hisense b4.....LG doesnt seem to come to mind when it comes to aircond
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Hisense is a Chinese brand. They do many different things, a bit like Haier or Samsung. No clue if it is good... but the price does look good.
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post Apr 8 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 4 2013, 07:55 PM)
Hisense is a Chinese brand. They do many different things, a bit like Haier or Samsung. No clue if it is good... but the price does look good.
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Hey y'all
I have been doing a lot of research on aircon, but nowadays it's more or less the same la.
EXCEPT Mitsubishi and Daikin, good start and running current and silent.

Main thing about Aircon is to check on the start current and the running current. That's the main thing that affect the electric bill hehe.
So far I checked, this 2 brands got the lowest in running current.
And in term of silence, nothing can beat this two brand la.
In term of fast cold, YORK cools down the fastest but, when u r on full mode, u will be annoyed by the sound, especially when it disturb your tv volume.

Just installed a Daikin 2.5hp Rm2.6k with installation, a reference for all smile.gif

But someone mentioned up there and he's right, Daikin's design is really simple, creativity & innovative free in term of outlook !!
And the Outdoor unit is like a BIG LORRY, one big piece of machine compare to Mistsubishi which is more creative and compact design.

Why I buy Daikin then? Just try and see la, bekoz i know it's VERY COLD, tried that in my friend's house and i have already got a Mitsubishi and Panasonic.

So far, never fails me, my living room can be felt is cold and i only need to put 24-26 degree C. The power of the aircon fan wind from the living room i can feel the wind blow strong on me in my dining room. My aircon is fixed in my living room facing my dining room.

Hope this info helps ...... smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(willius @ Apr 8 2013, 02:57 PM)
Hey y'all
I have been doing a lot of research on aircon, but nowadays it's more or less the same la.
EXCEPT Mitsubishi and Daikin, good start and running current and silent.

Main thing about Aircon is to check on the start current and the running current. That's the main thing that affect the electric bill hehe.
So far I checked, this 2 brands got the lowest in running current.
And in term of silence, nothing can beat this two brand la.
In term of fast cold, YORK cools down the fastest but, when u r on full mode, u will be annoyed by the sound, especially when it disturb your tv volume.

Just installed a Daikin 2.5hp Rm2.6k with installation, a reference for all smile.gif

But someone mentioned up there and he's right, Daikin's design is really simple, creativity & innovative free in term of outlook !!
And the Outdoor unit is like a BIG LORRY, one big piece of machine compare to Mistsubishi which is more creative and compact design.

Why I buy Daikin then? Just try and see la, bekoz i know it's VERY COLD, tried that in my friend's house and i have already got a Mitsubishi and Panasonic.

So far, never fails me, my living room can be felt is cold and i only need to put 24-26 degree C. The power of the aircon fan wind from the living room i can feel the wind blow strong on me in my dining room. My aircon is fixed in my living room facing my dining room.

Hope this info helps ...... smile.gif
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Thanks for sharing. By the way, which Mitsubishi are you refer to? smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(willius @ Apr 8 2013, 02:57 PM)
Hey y'all
I have been doing a lot of research on aircon, but nowadays it's more or less the same la.
EXCEPT Mitsubishi and Daikin, good start and running current and silent.

Main thing about Aircon is to check on the start current and the running current. That's the main thing that affect the electric bill hehe.
So far I checked, this 2 brands got the lowest in running current.
And in term of silence, nothing can beat this two brand la.
In term of fast cold, YORK cools down the fastest but, when u r on full mode, u will be annoyed by the sound, especially when it disturb your tv volume.

Just installed a Daikin 2.5hp Rm2.6k with installation, a reference for all smile.gif

But someone mentioned up there and he's right, Daikin's design is really simple, creativity & innovative free in term of outlook !!
And the Outdoor unit is like a BIG LORRY, one big piece of machine compare to Mistsubishi which is more creative and compact design.

Why I buy Daikin then? Just try and see la, bekoz i know it's VERY COLD, tried that in my friend's house and i have already got a Mitsubishi and Panasonic.

So far, never fails me, my living room can be felt is cold and i only need to put 24-26 degree C. The power of the aircon fan wind from the living room i can feel the wind blow strong on me in my dining room. My aircon is fixed in my living room facing my dining room.

Hope this info helps ...... smile.gif
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Sounds good. I will give my feedback after installation in May.
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QUOTE(chc82 @ Apr 8 2013, 08:28 PM)
Thanks for sharing. By the way, which Mitsubishi are you refer to?  smile.gif
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I bought a 1hp and a 1.5 hp Mr Slim, cooling, powerful yet silent.
But i bought it about 2-3 yrs ago when Mitsubishi Heavy Industry Service center is not established yet.

My bro bought a Mitsubishi Heavy Industry 1hp and a 1.5hp Mr Slim recently.
He claims the 1hp from Mitsubishi Heavy Industry cool down faster and performs well yet CHEAPER.

Mr Slim the good thing is, u can always keep your aircon clean bekoz u can DIY the cleaning for the indoor unit.



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post Apr 9 2013, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(BTimes @ Apr 4 2013, 05:29 PM)
I just whack the brand given the low price that comes with free 10 ft piping and installation. My house will be a holiday house so that air-con might be only switched on for a few nights once every few months. Slightly under $800 RM per unit for 1 hp, slightly under $1000 RM for 1.5 hp and slightly around $1400 RM for 2 hp.  The LG is $70 RM more for 2hp, so I just took LG. Hope things turn out well.
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Bro,
I am not trying to tarnish the image of any brand here but please choose anything but LG la, i have never heard good things about this brand BEFORE !
Nothing but quality problems in a lot of cases ........ cheap is their selling point, their design also quite awesome.
But then again, good things never come cheap, cheap things never come good right ?

Especially when u guys happily going for holiday in your holiday house and the aircon just break down, it's a BIG TURN OFF weh, hehe .........

Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Apr 3 2013, 06:35 PM)
changing piping means hacking walss rite?/
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Bro,
No worries, a lot of ppl misunderstood about the refrigerant.
It is not the GAS which is running out but the AIRCON MODEL[I] that uses the R22 is PHASING OUT.
from 2014 onwards, Malaysia is enforcing a law to use a MORE environmental friendly aircon refrigerant R401a
But this doesn't mean we're not able to get the R22 gas anymore, it just we're not able to buy R22 type of Aircon anymore.

Whatever existing aircon using the R22 do not need to replace the piping or anything like that. Chill man ......


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QUOTE(willius @ Apr 9 2013, 10:12 AM)
Bro,
No worries, a lot of ppl misunderstood about the refrigerant.
It is not the GAS which is running out but the AIRCON MODEL[I] that uses the R22 is PHASING OUT.
from 2014 onwards, Malaysia is enforcing a law to use a MORE environmental friendly aircon refrigerant R401a
But this doesn't mean we're not able to get the R22 gas anymore, it just we're not able to buy R22 type of Aircon anymore.

Whatever existing aircon using the R22 do not need to replace the piping or anything like that. Chill man ......
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lol ok..thanks hehe
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Hi, i just wanted to ask, My developer actually included 2 concealed aircond piping for the new house, the spec they give is:

(1.5hp/2.0hp, 1/2???, 1/4???, copper pipe 0.61mm)

The heck i got no idea what it is, bring to 3 aircond shop let them see all tell me diff story, seng heng say only can fit sharp and panasonic 1.5hp/2.hp model, D'Legend more terror say any aircond as long is not inverter also can fit, the electrical shop next to d'legend say only hitachi can use with that tubing size????

Help pls sweat.gif



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QUOTE(willius @ Apr 9 2013, 10:06 AM)
Bro,
I am not trying to tarnish the image of any brand here but please choose anything but LG la, i have never heard good things about this brand BEFORE !
Nothing but quality problems in a lot of cases ........ cheap is their selling point, their design also quite awesome.
But then again, good things never come cheap, cheap things never come good right ?

Especially when u guys happily going for holiday in your holiday house and the aircon just break down, it's a BIG TURN OFF weh, hehe .........

Just my 2 cents.
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I have an LG in my current house. It is pretty good, I seldom use it but it lasted 10 years already. When it comes to electronics, I guess luck plays a role too. If my air-con doesn't work, then I will just switch on my fan because I'm not an air-con person tongue.gif I'm more concerned about Hisense, which I'm willing to give a try.

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