yeah even in klang valley,not many shops carry daikin airconds alongside other brands.

any reviews of how daikin compares to mitsubishi mr slim series?

dear sifus
any advice on taking refurbished airconds?

what are the brands that are ok to take if refurbished?
and what brands to avoid?

also what specs to avoid?

thanks very much for the advice

Just installed Panasonic Inverter 1.0HP air conditioner for my bedroom today. RM1400 inclusive installation (air cond unit, RM1200 plus installation charge of RM200 due to Inverter). Obviously I didn't bought the unit from Seng Heng which is really pricey (about RM1600++ inclusive installation). I bought the air conditioner from the shop that sells and specialize for the air conditioner unit only, not retail electrical chain stores. Can 'nego' some more At first I was hunting for Daikin model, unfortunately they said that it might takes about TWO WEEKS to order from supplier Daikin unit much more cheaper (less RM100 than Panasonic inverter - the reason why Daikin was way cheaper is due to R22 vs R401 refrigerant applied to the compressor) But I was really impatient to wait for two weeks, then I decided to just take Panasonic Inverter since they got ready stock for that unit.


- The indoor unit seems bigger, like 1.5HP air conditioner albeit it only 1.0HP when compared to my old cheapo Mistral air conditioner.

- Installation process was like a charm. Took about 40 minutes only to dismantle my old air conditioner and replaced it with a new one. Good workmanship and installer told me his 'ups and downs' experience dealing with air conditioner installation for the past 12 years. He seems really experienced and professional installer.

- Inverter unit will costs much more money to maintain. Conventional 1.0HP ~ 1.5HP air conditioner only costs RM80 for the brief maintenance, but Inverter will costs about RM130-RM150 for the maintenance (again, due to R22 vs R401A refrigerant). He said that maintenance need to be done like once a year. Depending on the usage styles. More frequent use, need to service every 6 months.

- According to the installer, there's 'nothing special' about inverter compressor. It just a normal compressor, but with build in 'intelligent' microcomputer board to control their behaviour for not to frequently 'on---off' like conventional air conditioner. Just hope that the microcomputer board will last longer since the costs to replace that tiny unit will be pricey.

- Installer also said that you can really saves using the inverter, but with longer usage like 5 hours++ every time you turned it on.

- Faster cooling as well as quiet compressor and indoor unit noise when compared to my old air conditioner as well as my neighbour compressor unit.

- Strong breeze from the indoor unit albeit fan settings was on medium-low, hence the reason why it cools my room faster. (temp settings: 25 degree celcius)

- I still didn't managed to understand well the functions of those-so-called 'ECONAVI'...

- Overall, for the time being I'm satisfied with my 'investment' with Inverter. I understand now the phrase ' you get what you pay' - RM700 Mistral vs RM1400 Panasonic Inverter. So much different between these two air conditioner. Perhaps it just less than a day.... I just crossed my fingers

This post has been edited by AjkR06: Apr 1 2013, 08:50 PM

no stocck for daikin,but got display unit to view?btw which shop u go to?

Congrats.

It's a bit weird, in JB almost every shop has Daikin, or can get it within a few days. Only electric chain stores like Courts tend to not have the brand. Maybe it comes from Singapore, where the brand seems to be much more present (TV ads, billboards, ads on taxis, ...).

Yeah, I find my unit to be pretty quiet too. Especially compared to my old unit which was literally falling apart. Had to start the fan with a stick... trying to turn it until it runs.

EcoNavi... as far as I understood it, works by sensing if someone is in the room (similar to those lamps that can sense if someone is moving, and then turns on). If there is no one, for a while, it lets the aircon raise the temperature. So lets say you set it to 25°C. No one is in the room, after 30 minutes the setting gets changed to 27°C. Since rooms in Malaysia are not so well isolated, energy would be wasted by trying to keep the room at 25°C if it is not needed. Once someone enters the room, the temperature setting is lowered to 25°C again.

Hi gurus,

Was wondering if Sharp and Mitsubishi air-cons are any good?

Thanks.

got any good aircond servicers here u guys would want to recommend?

No stock and display unit as well. They only showed me some sort of in-house catalogue that tells the detail price of all the air conditioner that they sells. It just a small air conditioner shop and when they get order, they will take the unit from their warehouse. Oh, the shop name is Champion Air Conditioner service, situated somewhere in Northern Perak (small 'cowboy' town) - they only got ready stock for the 'common' air conditioner brand like York, Acson, Panasonic, Midea and just to name a few.

This post has been edited by AjkR06: Apr 2 2013, 07:25 AM

just asking,but y u chose daikin?

sorry forgot u bought panasonic

This post has been edited by ~Curious~: Apr 2 2013, 11:25 PM

I believe Mitsubishi Heavy Industries enjoys a great reputation together with Daikin. After that Panasonic. Then all the lesser brands. At least that's what I read when I was researching.

I have York, Panasonic, Hitachi inverter, Mitsubishi inverter aircond, in term of queitness, energy saving, cooling capacity, Mitsubishi inverter outperform the three.

Hitachi inverter is not bad either with pretty good energy saving, it just not as quiet as Mitsubishi.

York cooling pretty good, but noisy and not power saving.

Panasonic is the average player, not the best but also not the worst in all aspect.

Yeah, any review or comparison?
I'm currently using mrs slim now and planning to get daikin for my new house.

You sure daikin is cheaper than Panasonic with the same spec?

The net need to be wash every month, if leaving it unwashed, the Ac cooling coil will be very dirty, and cooling capacity will be affected. Also making coil corrodes easily.

Because most of the experienced user at forum (M'sia and Sing) are recommending Daikin for their price-to-performance ratio despite of the plain, dull looking compressor and indoor unit.

Yes. Daikin inverter air conditioner price is less RM100 than Panasonic Inverter. I paid RM1200 for Panasonic 1.0HP Inverter, but Daikin Inverter is just RM1100. If they got ready stock yesterday, surely I'll grab Daikin - Mind you that Daikin Inverter was not on the same spec with Panasonic. Daikin Inverter used conventional R22 refrigerant while Panasonic used new R401A refrigerant.

This post has been edited by AjkR06: Apr 2 2013, 09:36 PM

i just installed 2 units of daikin 1.5hp inverter(1600 with installation).. so far very happy with it.. takes a bit longer to cool the room than my previous Mitsubishi but the daikin compressor is so much more quiet..can barely hear it running.. the Mitsubishi compressor is very loud, even when my windows are all closed i could hear it running..

i purchased my airconds in the evening and they delivered and installed it the very next day morning.. from Wing Heng Kepong..

This post has been edited by stephan_f86: Apr 2 2013, 09:38 PM

@stephan_f86: Have you tried the "Powerful" mode? I find that to be quite... powerful. It is noisier though cause the fan is running at full speed.

Hmm.....that's strange, I tot daikin is always more expansive if compare to Panasonic and Mitsubishi.

It is in Singapore, AFAIK. Maybe because they blow all the money on advertising. In Malaysia it is a less established brand it seems, so they offer more reasonable prices. Good for us.

if i get a r22 gassed air cond now,then when the gas is phased out o get an r410a gassed unit,wud d pipings be used again or need to change?