Sifus, gurus
Can recommend a good blu ray player ?
Which 1 gives the best bang for the buck ?
Budget players any good ?

Only one - PS3. The cheapest and most upgradeable player. No such thing as a budget standalone bd player.

Got...buy from US, The Insignia Blu-ray player...only USD299, now come with USD100 gift voucher..so it's only USD199 (RM676 nia )

PlayStation 3. You will not regret it.

Thanks but I heard PS3 cannot take it if u play movies too much. Any truth in that ?

PS3 la bro

eh about that issue, i've been watching blu ray using ps3 since few months d (thanks to the poison in the blu ray thread) so far no problem

That's woth playing DVD. PS3 got no problem with BD

panasonice BD 30

i recommend PS3.

PANASONIC BD30 is a 5star rated BLURAY PLAYER by What Hi-Fi, UK magazine May 2008

Look PS3 more better with other features.

if i got hte moolah, i will stil get the bd 30

btw, i tot the bd30 can do internal decoding? kenot ar?

if can, use analog output to amp can liao rite?

Nope, cannot internal decoding, an amp with lossless audio decoding is needed. It's brother, BD50 can, but not yet released, said to be this month.

The analogue outs can send out lossless, but only PCM (only 5.1), not DTS-HD MA/Dolby TrueHD. If it can't decode them, how can it convert them to analogue.

exactly.. dint know PS3 is so good in playing blue ray. may consider getting it.

Sg can get for S$800 liao..

How much here ah???

You mean the PS3? Around RM1350.

sg still so exp huh?

But buying there you'll get proper warranty and stuffs. When Sony officially release here, it will be expenive too, I'm guessing around RM2k.

Why Sony Malaysia haven't launch it here still baffles me. They put it in their Sony Styles but with a card saying "Not For Sale, Demonstration Purposes Only".

Here are some complaints for ps3 =

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/dvd-player-...3-fw-2.1_2.html

ps3 in spore official price is 599 sgd, u cant get it lesst hough

SAMSUNG BD-P1200 has the highest rating

(http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/external/dvd-player-benchmark.html)

Sorry,

Confusin quote there .. Tis should be better

60gb is S$799
40gb is S$599

Cheers
Dirtrun

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Added on July 7, 2008, 11:51 amHow much is tat??

My Sg friends say to stay away from Sammy bdp..

Anyway Panny bd30 is hot there now - S$800..
Anybody using here ??

Cheers
Dirtrun

This post has been edited by dirtrun: Jul 7 2008, 11:51 AM

Looks like ps3 is the clear winner. Din know ps3 not officially available here. Not games kaki.
Another noob question: bd discs oso like dvd region encoded ? For eg I get a bd player from japan, can i watch the bd from us or other parts ?
got jalan to get from japan 1 unit so thinking to buy or not to buy or get ps3 ?

japan unit same region with US and SEA, but i remember japan products, only jap language nia, no engrish one

dirtrun, 60gb no more liao
the sammy bdp not really tat good, i remember it was used as a free gift during pc fair wen u purchase a panny AX 200

Should avoid Sammy BD players at all cost, it takes forever to load movies with Java menus like AVP2, POTC, etc. Some movies will skip and out of sync. They have not fixed the problem till now.

Safest bet as of now is Panny's BD30 player but if you can wait, BD50 will be out soon.

for peasant like me..i opted ps3..but if you can afford go for standalone player..yeah BD50 will be a good choice..

peasant means still using VCD

Hi,

I think ps3 is popular cos it is oso a gamin machine and does bd discs as well .. d price helps too..

But performance wise .. de Panny bd 30 beats it in most cases..

Ok.. bd 30 is alrdy 2999 .. how much will de bd50 be listed as??

Crazy prices n software oso not cheap..

but bd30 is too expensive.

maybe you can buy from ebay. My estiamte you will get cheaper by few hundreds even after tax...

Can you explain the sentence in bold?

kekekeke, aiman stand by his ps3

buy in spore lor... 799 sgd nia...

Just the truth bro. Until now there is no player that can even beat PS3 for disc loading time. And there are a lot more advantage than any current BD players right now.

I'm not a gamer, I also prefer standalone, one thing I'm longing is the bitstreaming capability (though not that big a deal actually). No doubt someday we'll see better and cheaper standalones in future, and I'll be the first to buy it.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Jul 8 2008, 10:41 AM

loading time, ps3 :thumbs:if ps3 offer HBR, other no need sell liao

Forgive my ignorance but ps3 got hdmi i suppose?
Good upscaler for dvds as well ?

Yes, else it cldnt be HD player.

Hi,

I donno .. most of de reviews compare it favourably to de ps3 but in de US they are abt de same price so its a fair comparison.. over here de ps3 is cheaper than de bd30, so its unfair to compare .. ppl assume when u pay more..

Hv been trawlin thru avs's bd30 threads(200+pgs..) n apparently it got sum bugs too.. wonder wat version our local units are??

Cheers
Dirtrun

most prolly our version is the outdated version

Sharp doing a promo for its Full HD LCD TV. Just add RM1,299 to buy BDHP-20A. Saw it in newspaper today.

http://www.sharp.com.my/product.php?Produc...=specifications

But, I still prefers PS3

How do you know if your PS3 got original lens or those 'hantu' already change it to compatible one?

i buy direct from sony spore, shudnt be a problme

That one of course la dude I meant if we buy it here.

buy from reputable seller lor

yeah lor, like aiman's question above, I would like to know quantitively (with links to indepth analysis and review), whether for Visual quality and audio quality (in LPCM HD audio) via HDMI , that PS3 PQ/AQ will lose to BD30?

This post has been edited by ar188: Jul 12 2008, 01:10 PM

Any reputable seller you recommend? I'm about to get one after the AV show and the only place I can think of is Digital Mall in Sek14 PJ for RM1350.

Go to the Playstation thread to look for 'ninja' or 'seibeicheko'

lol

yeah ps3 the cheapest....

Then where those guy purchase PS3 from malaysia.....

I don't know so good the PS3...can also play Blue -ray.....and also can play game, right?

Can it play SACD and DVD audio also?

SACD boleh. But, I think it cant play DVD-A. Correct me if I am wrong.

SACD boleh, but only for 80GB and 60GB (discontinued) versions. No support for DVD-Audio though.

Those guys who purchase in Malaysia, the game shop brought it in unofficially from Singapore, Japan or US. So the warranty is based on which country it's originally from.

The PS3 models that support SACDs, is it via software or it has a dedicated DSD DAC for SACDs. My friend's Sony HTIB around RM1300 plus supports SACD. I got shocked when I saw the SACD logo there. Too bad SACD softwares are still lacking in the market.

i seen pioneer ELITE BDP in action b4 ...

hdmi1080p to duno wat fullHD infocus projector +

HBR to 8002 marantz

fuyoo.. i found the new "horizon" of capability of BLU as compare to my

ps3 to my pariah amp + HD65 :'(

Upgrade your AVR then buy Pioneer ELITE. Later, go for HD81. Full HD nirvana!

Don't forget about the screen size vs viewing distance rule when you're considering 720p or 1080p.

I guess projector with gigantic screen, you guys NEED to have CAN go for full HD projector.



This post has been edited by aiman04: Jul 18 2008, 09:09 AM

I think it is better for us to create the link and pin it as reference for others to view

Luckily mine aint gigantic

mine even smaller than HTleg one

but hor

if got $$ must buy FULL HD projector

demm

I've lost the link, but here's the chart:



So, let's say for 80" screen size, you need to sit 16 feet or closer to see the 1080p benefit.

Let me correct my earlier post, with your big screen, you can already see the benefit of full HD, so you guys better get a full HD projector.

bro aiman, mine is 84", and im sitting at 9 + feet nia

Then you should get full HD projector.

Fuiyoh! Bro aiman put 1080p poison

This post has been edited by JonC: Jul 18 2008, 10:24 AM

All elite talk here...mine only 40" nia


****siam kin kin....

I using 32" niah leh! This peasant better go hide in the corner fast!

my standard still not fullHD yet

anyway, my BIL 80 gb ps3 condemn liao....

cialat! still under warranty you can send back to sg to repair right?

dunno his warranty end liao or not, send to sg not an issue for me

he goes in daily, but no time to go sony though

look like the same problem especially with the first / older batch of ps3.... the damn lense!

u stay in jaybeee sure lah! Damn a lot of cheaper goodies can get from our neighbour.

If just lens and warranty is over, just PM bro Tot to replace for you. I think costs around RM300.

ya, i tot cahrging ard 300

mine also 1st batch, his 80 gb ard consider 2nd abtches of ps3, mine no issue though

good news . BD lovers. Sony chops another $100 of the their PS3 and only one model will be sold once the current 40GB models are sold out.

This 80 model however doesnt support PS2 games. This is a non issue if you want it for BD movies only

exact same spot as the current 40gb ver. except with the bigger hd no backwards compatability, no card readers and no extra 2 more usb ports

This post has been edited by JonC: Jul 18 2008, 11:37 AM

some how im grateful i have the card readers, i filled up all 3 slots, and i play GOW 2 with my PS3 as well

hmm Sony is making more $$ on this model than the 40GB then

anyhow - if its for BD movie watching movie . Lets use the 80GB memory as persistent memory for BD Live features

Honestly 80GB is not enuff as a number of games require mandatory installation, I've upgraded mine to 250GB. I'll be happy with Sony adds PS2 backward compatibility, the card reader and SACD back to the existing models, there's no reason for them to remove these. Who wants a stripped down version, rite?

80GB not necessary lah, 1GB is all they need for BD Live and from existing reviews, the BD Live feature is far from perfect yet. Hopefully, they'll put it to good use one day and not just for streaming upcoming trailers from the servers or to play some lame online games.

My 40 GB now left about 25 GB........ MGS4 whacked about 10+ GB liau Now HD price drop liau mar thats why they hantam 80GB in there...... the feature i miss most is the card reader... useful to view pics on my tv.

This post has been edited by JonC: Jul 18 2008, 01:59 PM

u shud have whacked more....

Bro, already jump into HD badnwagon ?


Hehe... go for 160GB

Once all PS3 models come with 80GB HDD, the games might require more than 20GB installation space.

Who knows .........

haha - not yet lah

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Added on July 20, 2008, 2:04 amoh people. Sony's Profile 2.0 S350 BD player is SHIPPING now

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/641283/+40

$399 onli (USD) RM1,320

This post has been edited by g5sim: Jul 20 2008, 02:05 AM

Most new AVRs now can decode DTS-HD Master Audio onboard. This S350 can bitstream it, so no worrries there (I actually prefer bitstreaming actually).

I would really consider this if I see reviews say that it load BDs faster than PS3, and retails at lower than RM2k locally (fat hope, maybe can get it from SG).

Local announcement here:

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/latest/sony-unvei...c-player-5.html

This post has been edited by aiman04: Jul 20 2008, 07:16 AM

Bitstream (core only) = core = DTS track

Is that from the S350 manual? It doesn't bitstream HBR audio? I thought I read somewhere that it does.

Then I can't consider this model. Panasonic BD30 is still the best choice now.

Now let's see how it compares between Sony S550 and Panasonic BD50.

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Added on July 20, 2008, 7:32 amBlu-ray.com is saying that it can bitstream HBR:

http://www.blu-ray.com/players/players.php?id=62&show=specs

This post has been edited by aiman04: Jul 20 2008, 07:32 AM

yes page 62 of the S350 manual. some people want my head because i pointed that that Sony manual says bitstream support for DTS HD and DTS HD Master is DTS Core only - and pointed out the same S350 manual from Sony!

i just dont think its logical to sell player specs that is sooo similar on S350 ($400) and on S550 ($500) . I would say the S550 will either decode HD and HD MA or bitstream non core only HD and HD MA.

my A35 have been bitstream full HD MA for long ago..

-cabut-

Lucky you cabut already.

Just wondering, was there that many titles on HDDVD that has DTS-HD MA?

i do Blu lah..just teringat my late player.. but still running..

Recently I saw Blu-ray pirated disc sold(from china) at the market.....wondering...the actual Blue-Ray player can play the disc...
some said cannot and some say can......dunno who to believe...

I am considering to upgrade my dvd.....dunno whether want the Blue-ray player ...or those with DVD upconversion.....


I also heard PSP3 can play blue ray disc....but the salesman said...possible not to use the PSP3 for Blue Ray...cause...it will spoil the lens.....true or not ah?...

Those claimed to be pirated BD is b**lshit. We have discussed it before. You can play this so-called BD in DVDP. So, it aint Blu.

Many of us here are using PS3 as BD player. It didnt have any problem (touch wood). But, there are some forummers having problem with the lens after using it to watch DVD occasionally.

Like bro Htkaki said, it's just a DVD9. The source could be BD, ripped and then burned as DVD format. The resolution will still be 480p, no matter what. It may look nicer then other DVDs, more colourful, little bit sharper. But that's it, you're actually losing a lot of data, so you're losing the details.

About PS3, you asked that at at shops like HN, etc, right? If I'm the owner, when people come asking for a PS3 as BD player, would I encourage them to go buy it elsewhere because you don't have it? Of course, I would say bad things about it and ask them to by the standalone BD players in my shop instead.

Lens breaking down on PS3 is quite rare actually. I think every optical player have the risk of lens failure. If you give good care and play BDs normally, there's nothing to worry about.

Avoid playing DVDs. Getting from A to B on BD is easier than on DVD, the motor and lens have to move faster on DVD. I never play DVDs on my PS3, a dedicated upscaling DVD player for that (existing).

Thanks aiman04 and htkaki for replying

But, considering that I only use to play DVD-9 disc.....well...upconversion DVD suit me better....

By the way, how much the Blue-ray disc normally you purchase....normally...cost 130 - 140 per pcs... not affortable la.......quite expensive....

PS3 will consider in next budget....cause...not suitable for DVD....I can't afford to buy both...my wife will kill me later

If DVD, then DVD with HDMI will do. Plenty of choices out there.

BD is abt RM80 - RM100+ via Amazon and it depends on titles and any promo.

S350 : Bitstream all
S550 : Decodes all

Source 1
Source 2

This post has been edited by fentanyl: Jul 20 2008, 11:56 PM

ya kinda reasonable ma ..

u see those DVD R1 also about tat price


dun tell me u compare to "lulian" durian