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post Apr 11 2008, 02:42 AM, updated 17y ago

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P1 Wimax finally launch on 19th August 2008

Current Package :
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One Time Charges
Registrations Fee : RM100 (1st Bill)
Activaton Fee : RM60 (1st Bill)
Paper Bills : RM5 (Optional for home plan)


Benefit:
# No phone line needed (Save up to RM49)
# Service Activation within 12 hours
# Plug & Play
# 15-day Service Satisfaction Guarantee
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Updates : 2/02/2009
Coverage expend to Klang, Johor and Penang

FAQ:
1. Where is the coverage?
Please refer to wimax website : http://www.p1.com.my/wimax/coverage_ref.aspx

2. How do I sign-up for P1 W1MAX services?
You can subscribe to P1 W1MAX online. Alternatively, you can also sign-up for our services at our P1 Authorised Dealers. Please click here for a complete list of our Authorised Dealers or call our Customer Service at 1 300 800 888 for more information.


Speedtest :
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Customer Service at 1 300 800 888
For more information please visit : www.p1.com.my

Throttling info: Credited to LEVIATHAN
1. Executed once the user's total (up+down) bandwidth usage reaches 20GB.
2. Some users report there are a friendly warning at 15GB, and some users don't receive anything like that.
3. During throttling period, the speeds are reduced to 400kbps down and 100kbps up.
4. The throttling will be lifted every 1st day of the month.


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post Apr 11 2008, 02:56 AM

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Nice. But i heard that Tmnet is going to pump in RM15 billion fibre optic for home user rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
No matter what, consumers are going to be the big gainers.
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Well p1 already running some preliminary here in my area. Taman Desa off Old Klang Road has been enjoying P1 for almost 2-4 months.
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:59 AM

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so..
wimax in malaysia will be a success while , the one in aussie failed.. hmmm

let's see how it rates up with izzi after burst of subscriber.. let's hope it the network doesn't "crocked" up when users become more and more.. tongue.gif


Added on April 11, 2008, 11:00 am
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Does anyone know what device do we need to use the service ?
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you need something like a wifi card/izzi box to receive the signal..

BUT NOT JUST ANY "TOM d*** AND HARRY" device..

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post Apr 11 2008, 11:14 AM

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The Malaysian buffet mentality will slowly see forums swamped with threads on:

1. Cannot torrent
2. S#it la P1 block torrents
3. Give me my "maximum WiMax speed" ! I want ! I want ! I Want !
4. Cannot torrent

Getting back to business, any mention on pricing ? Not gonna be free issit ?
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post Apr 11 2008, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Suk @ Apr 11 2008, 02:42 AM)
. Mobility takes a step forward with the IEEE 802.16e amendment (also known as mobile WiMAX) that has added key features in support of mobility including allowing connectivity at speeds up to 160km per hour.
Oi Suk bro? It means up to 160kB/s right? hmm.gif

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post Apr 11 2008, 11:37 AM

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Nope, that should be correct. Mobility support, i.e. staying connected even when moving and in this case, you'll still be connected even when travelling at 160km/h.

And c'mon 160kb speeds would be pathetic for an emerging standard.
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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Apr 11 2008, 03:18 AM)
Well p1 already running some preliminary here in my area. Taman Desa off Old Klang Road has been enjoying P1 for almost 2-4 months.
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Really? I live in Tmn Desa too. How is the service? How can I sign up?
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the bottomline here is pricing.

will it be affordable when roll out is done or will the users laugh hysterically at the prices. its all $$$ to the ratio of kBps or MBps. not many are gonna surf @ 160km/h. its illegal to travel at that speeds. its hard enough to concentrate on the road and its a bloody lousy marketing gimmick. stick within the boundary of laws when u do advertising.
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Apr 11 2008, 06:09 PM)
its illegal to travel at that speeds.

KLIA Ekspres train!

I often get my session dropped when using Digi EDGE on that train.
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Apr 11 2008, 06:09 PM)
the bottomline here is pricing.

will it be affordable when roll out is done or will the users laugh hysterically at the prices. its all $$$ to the ratio of kBps or MBps. not many are gonna surf @ 160km/h. its illegal to travel at that speeds. its hard enough to concentrate on the road and its a bloody lousy marketing gimmick. stick within the boundary of laws when u do advertising.
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Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed raceeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr LoL. laugh.gif

Maybe people want to use it for their private helicopter ride to office? Or some big tauke want to do work online while balik kampung? In any case, you'll never know when your going to need teh internet. sweat.gif

Is it going to flop like every other wireless bb in Malaysia due to increase of user? How much dough do I need to cough up? sweat.gif

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Never knew that KLIA express travels at 160KM/h, anyways hows P1 to those that are using it.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Apr 11 2008, 02:42 AM)

The new trump card of wireless connectivity, here are the top 5 things you need to know about WiMAX:

. Wider coverage with wireless broadband access up to 50km! (WiFi coverage is limited between 30 - 100m).

. Higher speed from more efficient bandwidth use, interference avoidance and is designed to allow higher rates of data to be robustly transmitted over longer distances.

. Cost effective as WiMAX is based on an open, international standard, allowing for low cost, mass-produced chipsets - which means competitive pricing and costs savings for service providers and end-users.

. Interoperability thanks to international, vendor-neutral standards will eventually drive equipment cost down as a result of mass adoption.

. Mobility takes a step forward with the IEEE 802.16e amendment (also known as mobile WiMAX) that has added key features in support of mobility including allowing connectivity at speeds up to 160km per hour.


Source : I GOT my E-newsletter in my Mail

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Does anyone know what device do we need to use the service ?
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Psst...

If you want to connect to the basestation 50km away, you will need a CPE as tall as menara kl.

Allowing connectivity at 160km per hour means nothing if it does not handle the handover fast enough between the base stations.

Lets hope their Mobile WIMAX is running on PMIP or else both you and me would have to install some crappy third party client to access it.


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post Apr 12 2008, 12:27 PM

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This May 2008, you can look forward to 1,500 new WiFi hot spots in Kuala Lumpur thanks to the launch of the KL Wireless Metropolitan Project.

They're deploying WiFi NOT WiMAX this May ler. Since WiMAX covers large areas of 50km max, why do they need to deploy 1,500 wireless hotspots in KL? KL is larger than the moon? laugh.gif
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wimax have 2 standard. the one cover 50km is point to point. not to custumer, u and me. batu pahat - muar 50 km. put one tower in semerah can cover both muar, and batu pahat ? heh. it not work.

normal wimax is like 3g coverage 5km from tower.
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I still think the "WiFi" they were referring to wasn't WiMAX, the source is kinda misleading people to think WiMAX is going to deploy soon. Besides 1,500 of normal WiMAX station to cover the whole KL area is overkill. Me thinks 200 is more than enough.
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post Apr 13 2008, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(old_calculator @ Apr 13 2008, 10:32 PM)
P1 dun block torrents....
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I heard that it's gonna FREE services. whistling.gif
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Pricing should be RM 20 per month for 1Mb unlimited usage.
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QUOTE(ericong77 @ Apr 15 2008, 12:21 PM)
Pricing should be RM 20 per month for 1Mb unlimited usage.
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Sure? so cheap?? during pc fair the guy told me it gonna launch on 8 May..
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post Apr 15 2008, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(ericong77 @ Apr 15 2008, 12:21 PM)
Pricing should be RM 20 per month for 1Mb unlimited usage.
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brader is that jus ur assumption or u've some source to back it up? drool.gif
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rm20 for 1Mb line...??then maybe streamyx need to tutup kedai jor xD
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Most likely it was a joke.
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Intel inside Green Packet for RM50 million

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KUALA LUMPUR, May 19 — World chip giant Intel will ink a deal in Kuala Lumpur today to provide RM50 million in its latest WiMax-capable Montevina chips and accessories to Malaysia's wireless technology solutions provider Green Packet Berhad.

Green Packet, listed in on the Bursa Malaysia, will be among the first to launch WiMax, or Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access, in Malaysia next month through subsidiary Packet One Networks (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd (P1).

Intel chairman Datuk Craig Barret will sign the agreement this afternoon at the World Congress of Information Technology (WCIT) which began at the Kuala Lumpur Convention Centre today.

The Malaysian Insider learnt that under the deal, Intel will provide Green Packet with the Montevina chips - which has optional embedded dual-mode Wi-Fi and WiMax connections. The chip's processors will have speeds ranging between 2.26GHz and 2.8GHz and are officially due in next month.

A slew of manufacturers have already announced WiMax-capable devices, including Nokia with its N810 Tablet, Kyocera with a WiMax dongle and Motorola with WiMax-enabled handsets using chips from Texas Instruments.

WiMax, also known as IEEE 802.16, is intended for wireless "metropolitan area networks". WiMax can provide broadband wireless access (BWA) up to 30 miles (50 km) for fixed stations, and 3-10 miles (5-15 km) for mobile stations. In contrast, the WiFi/802.11 wireless local area network standard is limited in most cases to only 100-300 feet (30-100m).

P1 is set to deploy 1,500 WiFi hotspots in Kuala Lumpur by end May 2008 to mark the start of Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur (DBKL) and Suruhanjaya Komunikasi Multimedia Malaysia's (SKMM) "KL Wireless Metropolitan Project" aimed at making Kuala Lumpur a world class wireless city by 2009.

Aside from offering free 512Kbps broadband connectivity for KLites and tourists for 2 years when fully deployed, the project hopes to help boost tourism, economic capabilities and social and education opportunities for the city.


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So, the wireless kl project is not WIMAX. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yes, Wimax will be officially launch in June according to an article in Starbiz today. Here some info that I got from there.

1) GP (Green Packet) target to cover more than 25% of the population by the end of this year.

2) They will start offering Wimax service start at 1 to 2Mbps but can go up to 6/7 Mbps.

3) When they launch in June, connectivity would likely come with voice.

4) Wimax to mobile phones is projected to be launch in two or three years.

5) Target to have 50,000 to 80,000 subscriber by year end. 200,000 by end of 2009.

6) ARPU (average revenue per user) of RM70 because its comprise of both enterprise and home user. That is for connectivity. Expect extra RM30 ARPU for voice communication.
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real???
1mb to 2 mb but can go up till 6 and 7 mbps????
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Hope they built station in my place (bandar hilir, ujong pasir)

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guys seriously what is this wimax thing ? :S
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google: wimax



Disadvantages WIMAX:

1) Line of site is needed for longer connections

2) Weather conditions like rain could interrupt the signal.

3) 0ther wireless equipment could cause interference.

4) Multiplied frequencies are used.

5) WiMAX is very power intensive technology and requires strong electrical support.

6) Big installation and operational coast.
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Just have to wait and see the pricing for us and the available packages. If its all good, bye bye Screamyx!
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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ May 19 2008, 11:37 PM)
guys seriously what is this wimax thing ? :S
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basically u could call it wireless broadband. the speed is impressive at least could rival what streamyx could offer or more. the other advantage are mobility. the disadvantage is the cost for user setup (maybe for average user) and there's issue on QoS during transmission. Since it is wireless, the bandwidth quality may suffer. For Download and Surfing its okay but i doubt its okay for online game such as DOTA. biggrin.gif. but i may be wrong, finger cross.
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shit then i might as well change my isp to wimax

so its goodbye to streamyx i guess smile.gifbiggrin.gif lol

it better be good then streamyx if not ill kill my self. haha tongue.gif

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wait first...
give other person try first unless its dont have contract and can use normal modem...
u've to remember... WIMAX fail at Australia... so be careful

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QUOTE(tolong_saye @ May 19 2008, 10:20 PM)
real???
1mb to 2 mb but can go up till 6 and 7 mbps????
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They will start with 1/2Mbps package. If needed, in the future, there will be packages up to 7Mbps

QUOTE(yangxi @ May 19 2008, 11:28 PM)
Hope they built station in my place (bandar hilir, ujong pasir)

TMNUT sxxxxx
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Where is that? As far as I know, they claimed they will be able to cover 25% of the population which is main cities from Perlis/Kedah to Johor Bharu.

QUOTE(yangxi @ May 19 2008, 11:38 PM)
google:  wimax
Disadvantages WIMAX:

1) Line of site is needed for longer connections

2) Weather conditions like rain could interrupt the signal.

3) 0ther wireless equipment could cause interference.

4) Multiplied frequencies are used.

5) WiMAX is very power intensive technology and requires strong electrical support.

6) Big installation and operational coast.
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From what I read, they claim that the whole cost for Wimax is still cheaper than 3G. But I guess that is wimax and 3G going to cover the whole population.

QUOTE(ferricide @ May 19 2008, 11:41 PM)
Just have to wait and see the pricing for us and the available packages. If its all good, bye bye Screamyx!
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Since their ARPU is rm70, I guess their initial pricing will be more or less the same as normal Streamyx pricing (Not the combo package)
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Wht all the ISP say like their system or modem can support till xxxmb, but on real time is that u get max xxxmb ?

why like that ?
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most important is that p1wimax better don't block bt.


Added on May 22, 2008, 9:41 pmare they launch in june at jb too or later ?


Added on May 22, 2008, 9:41 pmare they launch in june at jb too or later ?

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QUOTE(ttg109 @ May 22 2008, 09:36 PM)
most important is that p1wimax better don't block bt.


Added on May 22, 2008, 9:41 pmare they launch in june at jb too or later ?


Added on May 22, 2008, 9:41 pmare they launch in june at jb too or later ?
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How do you know they won't block BT?

I'm not so sure about the coverage of Wimax in JB in June. But they said they will cover 25% of population by year end.
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here are some shots of the WiMAX devices that P1 will offer.

(First Generation WiMAX 2.3 Ghz modem)

(USB WiMAX 2.3 Ghz modem)

The first device above is slightly big, but it looks nice, and requires power to operate.

The USB modem is very small, as small as the Vodafone Mobile Connect USB Stick launched by Celcom recently for enterprise users.

Speed offering will be somewhere between 1Mbps to 2Mbps where it will be priced below RM100 around RM80 per month. Lower speed packages are also expected to be available.

As you guys may have known, rumors says P1 will launch WiMAX by end of this month.


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QUOTE(ttg109 @ May 24 2008, 05:21 PM)
here are some shots of the WiMAX devices that P1 will offer.

(First Generation WiMAX 2.3 Ghz modem)

(USB WiMAX 2.3 Ghz modem)

The first device above is slightly big, but it looks nice, and requires power to operate.

The USB modem is very small, as small as the Vodafone Mobile Connect USB Stick launched by Celcom recently for enterprise users.

Speed offering will be somewhere between 1Mbps to 2Mbps where it will be priced below RM100 around RM80 per month. Lower speed packages are also expected to be available.

As you guys may have known, rumors says P1 will launch WiMAX by end of this month.
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i don't think wimax is good for online gaming as it is a wireless service which is prone to interference due to bad weather conditions and other factors.... in terms of speed maybe... but latency i doubt that it will be better than streamyx..
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hmm i think p1 is busy get their new website done cos is already 1 week cant access. duno is put new wimax service package information? brows.gif
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yeah..already mid june, when will it launch???
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Maybe end of this month or get delayed for whatever reason! laugh.gif
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My area here weather sux ~ everyday rain ~
Astro also cannot watch if use wimax sure waste money = = !!

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Since TM is in charge of the transatlantic cables (the internet backbone of Malaysia), isn't P1 WiMAX packages going to be same as Streamyx (in quality/performance) or even worse?


I don't think there will be a significant improvement in internet service..
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QUOTE(enes2k4 @ Jun 11 2008, 08:08 PM)
Since TM is in charge of the transatlantic cables (the internet backbone of Malaysia), isn't P1 WiMAX packages going to be same as Streamyx (in quality/performance) or even worse?
I don't think there will be a significant improvement in internet service..
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Not sure about this. Anyone who knows about this? Anyways, TIME does have their own international backbone right? Since they have the most fiber trunk in Malaysia it will be a waste if this is connected through TMNET to overseas.
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QUOTE(z3171600 @ Jun 11 2008, 08:14 PM)
Not sure about this. Anyone who knows about this? Anyways, TIME does have their own international backbone right? Since they have the most fiber trunk in Malaysia it will be a waste if this is connected through TMNET to overseas.
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Take a look at this mate: ICPC Members .. Malaysia --> TM Bhd

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15th of June already. Come on P1. Let out some news atleast.
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they've failed to roll out in time despite all the news ,ads and media coverage. i doubt response would go well for them on the first few months of their service anyway.
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was told they will launch this week...keep our finger cross...
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was told they will launch this week...keep our finger cross...
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Good. Waiting patiently for that. Not that I would be the early adopters though. Huhu.
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just heard the news...there will be another delay

again. . . sad.gif
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Reveal to us where the source of this info lah. (Delay news) So, when's the service ever going to be launched ?
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QUOTE(hye @ Jun 24 2008, 12:15 AM)
Reveal to us where the source of this info lah. (Delay news) So, when's the service ever going to be launched ?
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here
http://www.malaysianwireless.com/
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Yeah, I was pretty excited when I heard they were going to launch in May but then it been delayed to June. Now it's going to be delay again.

Maybe they're going to wait until Wimax getting mainstream (being equipped in laptop) but from what I read the first laptop to be equipped with wimax will be from 4th quarter the latest. That's suck if they wait until then to launch.
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QUOTE(z3171600 @ Jun 24 2008, 08:36 PM)
Yeah, I was pretty excited when I heard they were going to launch in May but then it been delayed to June. Now it's going to be delay again.

Maybe they're going to wait until Wimax getting mainstream (being equipped in laptop) but from what I read the first laptop to be equipped with wimax will be from 4th quarter the latest. That's suck if they wait until then to launch.
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then they need to reconfigure again and this involve new cost and equipment hmm.gif
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they want to make sure it really work and with good customer experience..
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Not before Melaka get's it.

http://malay.cari.com.my/archiver/?tid-347552.html drool.gif.
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Hope my area get first "melaka tengah" tongue.gif

but takut microwave might affect our health. sweat.gif Now my wifi router also put quite far from my bedroom

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With fresh 50M injected by Intel, they have the juice to delay the rollout while keep paying the staff. smile.gif
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They are paying 2M per month to their staff. Anyways that was an old article from above link. They do claim will be able to cover 25% population by year end but we'll see. This is the third time they has delay the launch and who knows how many will come next.

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Singapore, June 19: GCT Semiconductor, a leading supplier of mobile WiMAX solutions to the global market, and Green Packet Berhad (Green Packet), a leading developer of next generation mobile broadband and networking solutions, today announced collaboration to bring the world's first intelligent connection management solution that delivers seamless connectivity and handover between WiMAX and WiFi. The Green Packet "Intouch Connectivity Manager" integrates Green Packet's Mobile IP solution with GCT's GDM7215, the industry's first single-chip solution supporting both mobile WiMAX IEEE 802.16e Wave 2 and WiFi 802.11 b/g.

"A seamless broadband environment is now a reality. It is no longer just an idea on paper or a vision for the future," said Kelvin Lee, Senior General Manager of Green Packet. "With Green Packet's "Intouch Connection Manager" users enjoy uninterrupted connections as the solution intelligently and transparently switches between WiMAX and WiFi according to connectivity rules set by the user or the operator. Our intelligent connectivity management solution is aptly named Intouch to correspond to the fact that users will never have to experience a 'disconnect'."

Green Packet's "Intouch Connection Manager" also supports multiple connection modes such as WAN and LAN in addition to WiMAX and WiFi. Intouch is coupled with lifestyle features such as communication services, information and entertainment into a single client. This unique combination is aimed at providing WiMAX operators with service differentiation factors allowing them to gain revenue not only from network access but from value-added services as well.

"GCT's GDM7215 single-chip WiMAX plus WiFi integrated circuit enables a physically smaller solution, lower power consumption and reduced bill-of-materials," commented Dr. Kyeongho (KH) Lee, President and CEO of GCT Semiconductor. "WiMAX plus WiFi systems containing our chip and running Green Packet's Intouch allows users to roam seamlessly between WiMAX and WiFi networks, thus creating a powerful and highly desirable wireless broadband experience."

That seamless connectivity will soon be available to Malaysians. Green Packet, with its headquarters in Kuala Lumpur, has already signed up Malaysia's first and largest WiMAX operator, Packet One Networks (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd (P1) to roll out this new and innovative technology in the coming months.

GDM7215 implements mobile WiMAX RF/MAC/PHY and WiFi RF/MAC/PHY on a monolithic integrated circuit. GDM7215 supports multimode wireless connectivity with its on-chip RF transceivers, allowing seamless broadband and local wireless roaming. Based on GCT's industry-proven CMOS RF technology, GDM7215 integrates WiMAX and WiFi radios, a high performance ARM9 RISC processor along with a 32-bit uniscalar DSP, and a full range...


The link is http://www.financialexpress.com/news/GCT-a...manager/324953/

Note the bold text that I highlighted on the article above. It's going to be a long wait... sweat.gif

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can i know where to find wimax service provider in terengganu area? and which is cheaper, i need it in johor area in skudai (UTM) there too..
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Terengganu? From what I gather from my reading, not a chance by year end, however you could expect it to cover western peninsular malaysia by year end. And that is if they can make it.
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Yes, if not mistaken, there are 4 companies with Wimax licenses. Unfortunately seems like only P1 is committed, at least they appear to be before. No news from the other companies.
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Yes, if not mistaken, there are 4 companies with Wimax licenses. Unfortunately seems like only P1 is committed, at least they appear to be before. No news from the other companies.
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Just wondering why they rush to tender for the license but at the end just keep quiet ? or there are some political reason to make sure only 1 to given.

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Anyone saw the ad today in TheStar about the upcoming p1 wimax? rclxms.gif

Its really coming soon!!

The add explains about wimax and wat it can do.

"KLites rejoice! WIMAX will be arriving at your doorsteps soon. Watch this space for details"
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QUOTE(z3171600 @ May 22 2008, 11:41 PM)
How do you know they won't block BT?

I'm not so sure about the coverage of Wimax in JB in June. But they said they will cover 25% of population by year end.
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Really ?. any source or link to backup your statement. I highly doubt they test BitTorrent traffic too.
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No idea on this but i just click at p1.com.my , latest offer is 1mb speed and incredible price is rm 77/mth..hahaha even cheaper then stremyxx..
http://www.p1.com.my/common/aspx/Coverage.aspx click on priority broadband...look like my area Setapak is cover.



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The information & packages on P1 is still mainly on WiFi. No info on WiMax packages yet. If you click on the map, you'll see a very small coverage area per dot. (Don't you think WiMax will cover a larger area per transmitter ?)
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i guess it will be at the max of RM88 for 1MB with contract.
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omg, today i saw WiMAX Trial BETA in mamak outside FTZ.net Subang.


I tried to connect but it doesn't seem able to connect using my laptop wireless.

I think need special device to connect.


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QUOTE(mghong @ Jul 7 2008, 01:09 AM)
No idea on this but i just click at p1.com.my , latest offer is 1mb speed and incredible price is rm 77/mth..hahaha even cheaper then stremyxx..
http://www.p1.com.my/common/aspx/Coverage.aspx click on priority broadband...look like my area Setapak is cover.
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Its Priority broadband and its not WiMax. Is it two different things. They still haven't updated their site yet. So for now , we will just have to wait and see
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QUOTE(Suk @ Jul 7 2008, 04:51 PM)
omg, today i saw WiMAX Trial BETA in mamak outside FTZ.net Subang.
I tried to connect but it doesn't seem able to connect using my laptop wireless.

I think need special device to connect.
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You need a Wimax modem. Wifi doesn't works. Mass rollout of Wimax will probably in 2009 or later when most laptop have Wimax built-in just like wifi today. I understand the new Intel chip has support for this, so we will not see Wimax in mass market until there's more lappy's out there with the tech built-in. It'll take some time for price to go down and so.


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FYI: Redtone also have WiMax license smile.gif in progress
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No point having a license and sitting on it. Probably just waiting for someone else to buy it from them....damn license-squatters!!!

Like Time....now sold 3G license to DIGI... doh.gif

This is malaysia boleh....Cronies get license, become middle-man, sell the thing for a profit for doing nothing.

Welcome to Pak Lah's goverment.


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With fresh 50M injected by Intel, they have the juice to delay the rollout while keep paying the staff. smile.gif
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50million for Intel is chicken feed...sneeze also gone already....but hopefully they're committed to help companies like P1 to see the implementation through.

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Will it be implemented in handphones as well?
Being limited to laptops only seems like a waste to me.

Prefer a solution for all hardware ... desktop & laptop being able to connect to handphone for connectivity as well.



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QUOTE(eucalyptol @ Jul 8 2008, 09:17 AM)
Will it be implemented in handphones as well?
Being limited to laptops only seems like a waste to me.

Prefer a solution for all hardware ... desktop & laptop being able to connect to handphone for connectivity as well.
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Wimax mobile already available back in 2005...in Korea that is.

http://www.gizmag.com/go/4845/
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i heard the service is free rite?
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QUOTE(allrightall @ Jul 8 2008, 05:12 PM)
can p1 do it?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

intel is giving 50 million, cos afterall intel is main backer of wimax, not surprising. tongue.gif  tongue.gif

anyway, news paper clipping... 2nd or third time the chinese papers got article about p1 wimax.

speed is only 1.5 mbps nia. i prefer waiting for digi 3g, coming later this year or early next year. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

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Is it me or the box in his right hand is way bigger than the one in his left hand...?

BTW, anyone knows what's in his left hand?

And has anyone tested Wimax yet? hmm.gif
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Hmm , looks like they might cap p2p afterall judging from this teaser. Empathize on Priority on traffic

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I'm interested on VOIP.
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Hmm , looks like they might cap p2p afterall judging from this teaser. Empathize on Priority on traffic

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How'd you decipher the capping? blink.gif

Me don't see the subliminal message there. LOL!

As for VOIP...as long it's more stable than TMNut we're good. tongue.gif

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How'd you decipher the capping? blink.gif

Me don't see the subliminal message there. LOL!

As for VOIP...as long it's more stable than TMNut we're good. tongue.gif
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Nah you gotta decode in a professionally manner. Its just a case as they have said that they will automatically pirotise the traffic. In other words , they can detect what sort of traffic is passing through and prioritise the packets automatically so that you'll continue to have optimal surfing speed , but at the sametime it can be used to throttle p2p application as well
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Ahh, isn't that good?

I mean from what I can understand. It means I can surf at an average speed which I won't complain while others could still be using their p2p applications? smile.gif
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i will go register my Wimax this friday for testing free for P1, according to them is free but will chk with them and this testing is only for setapak area only. i will update when get to use Wimax
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Mind to provide some details qqstranger regarding the beta testing thingy.
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i will go register my Wimax this friday for testing free for P1, according to them is free but will chk with them and this testing is only for setapak area only. i will update when get to use Wimax
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Coool...did they like advertise all over the neighbourhood or what?

QUOTE(allrightall @ Jul 15 2008, 06:19 PM)
etsuko,

left is usb modem. size almost like my n73.
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Eek...urm...N73. hmm.gif

For a moment there, I thought it was a lil smaller. What's the weight of the thing?
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yesterday and today got few girl is giving away the "become P1 Wimax trial user" brochure at lrt wangsa station. i call P1 customer service regarding the term and condition, they say need go to the spot check it out only will get to know the detail. so here is the spot add for register Restoran S.A no. 29-30, jln 64B/26, tmn sri rampai.kl. date is 18/07 to 20/07 and time is 11am to 8pm. so any bro here is stay at setapak may chk it out. i will try to update the Wimax information after i get to register.
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i'll give it a shot as well. since its a free trial !
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QUOTE(qqstranger @ Jul 15 2008, 10:19 PM)
yesterday and today got few girl is giving away the "become P1 Wimax trial user" brochure at lrt wangsa station. i call P1 customer service regarding the term and condition, they say need go to the spot check it out only will get to know the detail. so here is the spot add for register Restoran S.A no. 29-30, jln 64B/26, tmn sri rampai.kl. date is 18/07 to 20/07 and time is 11am to 8pm. so any bro here is stay at setapak may chk it out. i will try to update the Wimax information after i get to register.
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Cool. But I wonder why their promotion drive only 2 days long?

QUOTE(prasys @ Jul 15 2008, 10:21 PM)
i'll give it a shot as well. since its a free trial !
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Urm... free trial for how long ar..? unsure.gif

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It might just be me but I heard online, P1 is releasing their prices supposedly commendable against the TMNut packages.

Not bad lor if RM88 per month, 1Mbps stabler than TMNut and no setup fees. drool.gif
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It might just be me but I heard online, P1 is releasing their prices supposedly commendable against the TMNut packages.

Not bad lor if RM88 per month, 1Mbps stabler than TMNut and no setup fees. drool.gif
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I'm not so sure about this. You gotta keep in mind that their equipment gonna cost as much as 3G modem. Heck, 3G is much more in demand for now so I guess their equipment is cheaper.
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 17 2008, 06:47 PM)
It might just be me but I heard online, P1 is releasing their prices supposedly commendable against the TMNut packages.

Not bad lor if RM88 per month, 1Mbps stabler than TMNut and no setup fees. drool.gif
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personally i more interested on the latency. under <50ms thumbup.gif can fight with streamyx/3.5G


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I'm not so sure about this. You gotta keep in mind that their equipment gonna cost as much as 3G modem. Heck, 3G is much more in demand for now so I guess their equipment is cheaper.
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If P1 willing to subsidies the WiMax modem, i think this great deal.

hope they don't follow IzzI step. have to paid one lump sum.
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Oh yeah, regarding the latency thingy, the best thing about wimax is from the station to another station almost ZERO latency. Of course in the end its still depends on their international backbone, but not a bad news at all right?
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P1 Roadshow for WiMAX

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Date - 18/7-20/7.
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5pm any updates
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Any update from those who take the trials?
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2 weeks trial period only

phase 1 at subang, seta
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2 weeks trial period only

phase 1 at subang, seta
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which part of subang, seta ?
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And yea-lor, where's seta? I know where's Subang. LOL!
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sorry .. got typo
phase 1:
setapak, subang , klcc, sentul

2 weeks of free trial. Wimax device provided.
full packages expected to be launched in 2 months
Free trial users will be randomly selected, and they ought to be inside the trial areas.

Need to sign non-disclosure agreement and have the option to return the wimax device after the end of trial.

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sorry .. got typo
phase 1:
setapak, subang , klcc, sentul

2 weeks of free trial. Wimax device provided.
full packages expected to be launched in 2 months
Free trial users will be randomly selected, and they ought to be inside the trial areas.

Need to sign non-disclosure agreement and have the option to return the wimax device after the end of trial.
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tooo bad , i stay in setapak gombak area...am a active tor user also..hahaha givemeee..
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Check this website to see the rates.. www.p1.com.my

Looks reasonable but my area no coverage yet...
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I don't think the package available in the website is wimax yet. That;s only wifi.
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How they randomly select wor? Based on the trial users who signed up?

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I don't think the package available in the website is wimax yet. That;s only wifi.
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That was what I was thinking.
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sorry .. got typo
phase 1:
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2 weeks of free trial. Wimax device provided.
full packages expected to be launched in 2 months
Free trial users will be randomly selected, and they ought to be inside the trial areas.

Need to sign non-disclosure agreement and have the option to return the wimax device after the end of trial.
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Anyone taking the WiMAX connection for a spin? Wanna know how's the performance thus far. hmm.gif
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Well anyone who sign up for that need to sign up for NDA right? I don't know how effective that is in Malaysia but then the best bet is to wait until the trial over. 2 more weeks, sigh.
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QUOTE(z3171600 @ Jul 21 2008, 08:31 PM)
Well anyone who sign up for that need to sign up for NDA right? I don't know how effective that is in Malaysia but then the best bet is to wait until the trial over. 2 more weeks, sigh.
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Takkan for the 2 weeks trial they get you to sign an NDA? shakehead.gif

I thought it'd be more like a contract to say if you lose the hardware or it gets broken by you accidentally and etc.

Why nobody want to share their experience so far... sad.gif

Or have to wait for PC Fair to see if they'll be there or not. cry.gif
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I'm rather worried about this trial users thing and the way they are handling the information. You see, they took a photocopy of my IC but I never heard from them since.

I feel like lodging an official complaint to them and to MCMC for abuse of personal information.
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I'm rather worried about this trial users thing and the way they are handling the information. You see, they took a photocopy of my IC but I never heard from them since.

I feel like lodging an official complaint to them and to MCMC for abuse of personal information.
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You signed up for the trial? They didn't give you the modem on the spot?
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No they did not give the modem on the spot. When I got there, they said they ran out of modems but they took my particulars. (and a copy of my IC) blink.gif

Then they told me that I'll be contacted 3 days from then and will be given the modem. That's the last thing I heard from them. mad.gif

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etsuko,

left is usb modem. size almost like my n73.
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I'm not so sure about this. You gotta keep in mind that their equipment gonna cost as much as 3G modem. Heck, 3G is much more in demand for now so I guess their equipment is cheaper.
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I believe the USB Modem is the size of a average thumbdrive. Smaller than 3.5G device.
WiMAX devices are said to be 1/3 of the price of 3G devices due to the fact that 3G only has one chipset vendor (Qualcomm) but WiMAX has several chipset vendors (RUNCOM, SEQUAN, BECEEM, GCT etc) which make better competition and so cheaper devices.

QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Jul 17 2008, 08:04 PM)
personally i more interested on the latency. under <50ms thumbup.gif can fight with streamyx/3.5G
If P1 willing to subsidies the WiMax modem, i think this great deal.

hope they don't follow IzzI step. have to paid one lump sum.
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Oh yeah, regarding the latency thingy, the best thing about wimax is from the station to another station almost ZERO latency. Of course in the end its still depends on their international backbone, but not a bad news at all right?
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QUOTE(hye @ Jul 22 2008, 10:59 PM)
No they did not give the modem on the spot. When I got there, they said they ran out of modems but they took my particulars. (and a copy of my IC)  blink.gif

Then they told me that I'll be contacted 3 days from then and will be given the modem. That's the last thing I heard from them.  mad.gif
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Hmm...so you're saying the promoter or PIC said they'll contact you within 3 days but haven't done so from the date you registered? Why not try calling them and see?

Anyone else with a similar problem as this?

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 23 2008, 01:10 AM)
I believe the USB Modem is the size of a average thumbdrive. Smaller than 3.5G device.
WiMAX devices are said to be 1/3 of the price of 3G devices due to the fact that 3G only has one chipset vendor (Qualcomm) but WiMAX has several chipset vendors (RUNCOM, SEQUAN, BECEEM, GCT etc) which make better competition and so cheaper devices.
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There was an article I read online saying the devices should become smaller in due time because they've managed to shrink the chip further. But I believe it needs to be shrunk in the end because Wimax is going to be a standard supported on mobile as well later.

Rumor online is the Nokia N830 will have Wimax support - product not launched yet.
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It's going to become a standard feature in Intel Montevina. They expect to make it available sometime in Q4 2008!
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 23 2008, 06:11 PM)
Hmm...so you're saying the promoter or PIC said they'll contact you within 3 days but haven't done so from the date you registered? Why not try calling them and see?

Anyone else with a similar problem as this?
There was an article I read online saying the devices should become smaller in due time because they've managed to shrink the chip further. But I believe it needs to be shrunk in the end because Wimax is going to be a standard supported on mobile as well later.

Rumor online is the Nokia N830 will have Wimax support - product not launched yet.
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Nokia already has a WiMAX phone for US Sprint Nextel WiMAX network.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmHaaueBqYE

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It's going to become a standard feature in Intel Montevina. They expect to make it available sometime in Q4 2008!
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The Q4 2008 is for WiMAX 2.5Ghz not for Malaysia WiMAX 2.3Ghz.
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Hmm...so you're saying the promoter or PIC said they'll contact you within 3 days but haven't done so from the date you registered? Why not try calling them and see?

Anyone else with a similar problem as this?
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The fact that they took a copy of my IC and asked me to sign an NDA for nothing - I don't take it very lightly. God knows what could have happened to my IC that they copied and the notion it could be used with criminal intent is alarming. Under no circumstances would I give my a copy IC except to a financial institution where they have internal processes which protects customers privacy and information.

I don't intend to wait and find out weeks or months later that the copy of my IC has been used to (possibly) illegally register a mobile line, take up a car or housing loan or even register for a new credit card. Call me overreacting but I have the right to protect my personal information because it is me who has to bear the consequences - not anyone else.

P1 ? I don't think so such is in place. Thus I'm contemplating reporting this incident to MCMC (or even the police) to protect myself in the event that criminal act is used with the copy of my IC. I don't see the point to call them up - they should be more responsible with my personal and confidential information in the first place. Else don't bother to ask a copy of my IC and tell me upfront that I don't qualify for the trial.
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The fact that they took a copy of my IC and asked me to sign an NDA for nothing - I don't take it very lightly. God knows what could have happened to my IC that they copied and the notion it could be used with criminal intent is alarming. Under no circumstances would I give my a copy IC except to a financial institution where they have internal processes which protects customers privacy and information.

I don't intend to wait and find out weeks or months later that the copy of my IC has been used to (possibly) illegally register a mobile line, take up a car or housing loan or even register for a new credit card. Call me overreacting but I have the right to protect my personal information because it is me who has to bear the consequences - not anyone else. 

P1 ? I don't think so such is in place. Thus I'm contemplating reporting this incident to MCMC (or even the police) to protect myself in the event that criminal act is used with the copy of my IC. I don't see the point to call them up - they should be more responsible with my personal and confidential information in the first place. Else don't bother to ask a copy of my IC and tell me upfront that I don't qualify for the trial.
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It's important to cross your photocopy IC everytime when u make a copy of the IC even though it's for bank or for anyone you know/dun know.
Some conmen might use this tactic to cheat you to give them your photocopy IC.
MCMC will not care about such report, police is your best solution.

You are right you should be responsible of your own identity, but you should think first before handing them the photocopy ic not after.

If you are concern, you should go and report it as soon as possible. I see you posting here since yesterday but still not yet take the necessary action.

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It's important to cross your photocopy IC everytime when u make a copy of the IC even though it's for bank or for anyone you know/dun know.
Some conmen might use this tactic to cheat you to give them your photocopy IC.
MCMC will not care about such report, police is your best solution.

You are right you should be responsible of your own identity, but you should think first before handing them the photocopy ic not after.

If you are concern, you should go and report it as soon as possible. I see you posting here since yesterday but still not yet take the necessary action.
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I know this is OT, but regarding the IC thingy, is it enough to just cross the photocopy or do we need to add ' only for xxx usage' or something?
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I know this is OT, but regarding the IC thingy, is it enough to just cross the photocopy or do we need to add ' only for xxx usage' or something?
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nod.gif Yea think so, did it on the credit cards etc etc ...
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 23 2008, 10:18 PM)
You are right you should be responsible of your own identity, but you should think first before handing them the photocopy ic not after.

If you are concern, you should go and report it as soon as possible. I see you posting here since yesterday but still not yet take the necessary action.
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Well ... I did not have a choice about the IC part if I wanted to be a trial user, did I? (BTW ... the IC was crossed but I'm lamenting the way the document is being handled. And I never mentioned whether I have taken action or not )

And I wanted to give it a few more days just in case they really did came back. I'm not using the forum as an outlet but as a awareness so people here will be more careful. Anyway, I'll stop posting here either way to avoid unnecessary comments - leave it for the guys here to debate on the subject.

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Cool website. But they should seriously remove the glow on all of the text which need to be read properly. I can't focus and it makes me feel like I need glasses. cry.gif

QUOTE(hye @ Jul 24 2008, 02:46 AM)
Well ... I did not have a choice about the IC part if I wanted to be a trial user, did I? (BTW ... the IC was crossed but I'm lamenting the way the document is being handled. And I never mentioned whether I have taken action or not  )

And I wanted to give it a few more days just in case they really did came back. I'm not using the forum as an outlet but as a awareness so people here will be more careful. Anyway, I'll stop posting here either way to avoid unnecessary comments - leave it for the guys here to debate on the subject.
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Well, personally sharing what's your experience here does create awareness. What's left for them is to monitor their performance online - same goes to more companies.

Don't forget to inform us if they do get in touch with you.

Anyone signing up for the w1max via their website? I'm pondering over it - while trying to focus on the text. LOL!
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All four mobile WiMAX operators have been given a deadline of until August next month to commercially launch the WiMAX service in Malaysia.

“There will be a penalty imposed on the operators if they fail to meet the deadline†said Malaysian Communication and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) Senior Director for Technology and Standards Division, Mr. Zamani Zakariah when queried on what will happen should the operators not meet the deadline set.


I hope the 4 don't mess things up. Otherwise, you know who might just get the project later. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mobilewold.com.my)
All four mobile WiMAX operators have been given a deadline of until August next month to commercially launch the WiMAX service in Malaysia.

“There will be a penalty imposed on the operators if they fail to meet the deadline†said Malaysian Communication and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) Senior Director for Technology and Standards Division, Mr. Zamani Zakariah when queried on what will happen should the operators not meet the deadline set.


I hope the 4 don't mess things up. Otherwise, you know who might just get the project later. tongue.gif
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MCMC doesn't give clear definition of "commercial launch". If the operator only launches 1 basestation with no subscriber, is that consider a commercial launch? It's a bull shit warning. TIME has acquired the 3G license for few years and yet MCMC has not taken any action against them. You and I know how our government works ... before they can decide on anything, it's time for tea break.
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[quote=p4n6,Jul 26 2008, 01:02 AM]
I hope the 4 don't mess things up. Otherwise, you know who might just get the project later. tongue.gif
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MCMC doesn't give clear definition of "commercial launch". If the operator only launches 1 basestation with no subscriber, is that consider a commercial launch? It's a bull shit warning. TIME has acquired the 3G license for few years and yet MCMC has not taken any action against them. You and I know how our government works ... before they can decide on anything, it's time for tea break.
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time sold their 3G license to Digi right ?

correct me if wrong
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[quote=Suk,Jul 26 2008, 01:31 AM]
MCMC doesn't give clear definition of "commercial launch". If the operator only launches 1 basestation with no subscriber, is that consider a commercial launch? It's a bull shit warning. TIME has acquired the 3G license for few years and yet MCMC has not taken any action against them. You and I know how our government works ... before they can decide on anything, it's time for tea break.
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time sold their 3G license to Digi right ?

correct me if wrong
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But still, Time didn't do anything to their license for more than 3 years and the government didn't do anything to revoke their license. Selling license to another company doesn't justify anything.
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regarding TIME and that license stuff...u shud in lyn, there is a thread regards govt helping these company...TIME is out of business if im not wrong and the gov tried to help them by giving them 3g n wimax so that they can sell it to other telco. that the whole reason behind it. i jus say what i heard..true or not..up to u.
govt based company or bumi company i think...this TIME is...
so u think govt will revoke them or what?..........u make ur own deductions

im pleased to say..these slow rollout also have to do with govt helping TM..
its a conspiracy...
jus my 2sen..im very hype up when it comes to this...

bye bye
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I know this is OT, but regarding the IC thingy, is it enough to just cross the photocopy or do we need to add ' only for xxx usage' or something?
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i can't find the terms and condition
can somebody point me to it?
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i can't find the terms and condition
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Good question.

I tried looking for it but all I could find the sentence *Terms & Conditions apply on the signup page.

Could they have forgotten to put a link to the file? Hmm...

Or can anyone remember the T&C when they signed up at Setapak?
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LOL ... then maybe they can add in later on ...
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not sure whether i'm suppose to reveal.. but here's my results and this is the average since using WiMAX 3 days ago..
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Woot! The very first Wimax user in LYN. Hey, mind to tell us more about it?

I'm curious what will happen after the trial. Do they give you the option to continue with the plan or they just take it back?
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not sure whether i'm suppose to reveal.. but here's my results and this is the average since using WiMAX 3 days ago..
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wow...not bad...is the signal stable?? can get signal in study room also, i.e. not near window?
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so...this wimax, just need to have a machine that is capable of wifi connection then can use already? eg laptop, handphone etc..
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No. There is a special modem for it.
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Wow this is great news. Signed up for the trial and I've managed to get some in-sight scoop on their WiMax service. My friend is using the service as we speak , he doesn't want to post any screenies as he said that there is some sort of agreement that prohibits trial users to publish information

1) They are providing you with an External IP Address (just like streamyx) (Maxis will be dead meat after this , thank you maxis). This allows you to host games , and it will work for p2p. Horray !

2) The modem seems to be really big and bulky. Guess its the first generation.

3) Just like most of the wireless service out there , latency seems to be somewhat consistent. The ping rates are way lower then HSDPA , but then its not consitent as streamyx. At one moment you can get 68ms , the other moment 110ms. But so far it doesn't exceed 120ms for local links which seems to be good.

4) Speed on the other hand seems to be good. YouTube streaming is superb and I am able to stream live P2P Streaming stuff. It works like a charm as well


I'll try to persuade that guy to allow me to post the traceroute results

I'll also try to post my own results tooo once i've managed to get my hands on it !
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talking about trial period which is 2 weeks, they told me that if i'm not satisfied with the service, I can just give the modem back to them without any charge. I also asked them on the package i.e. the monthly fees and initial subscription. But they weren't able to tell me (perhaps they haven't yet decided the final pricing). So i asked them with a different kind of question which could probably gimme an answer.... "What's the price if i loose them modem??" they told me that I will hv to pay them RM 1500. ahaaa.. so i guess this will be the price then. however i'm just assuming. not sure what's the actual pricing.

the signal is quiet stable.. most of the time i usually get green colour (RED=week, ORANGE=moderate, GREEN=good). And I don't even need to put near the window. my living room is fine. btw if you guys wanna know, i'm living at bdr baru sentul and i've done some research on other broadband services i.e. MAXIS (very poor), CELCOM (the speed rocks!), streamyx (never tried this before) and lastly WIMAX (really really rockss!! )..

so far WIMAX is pretty good/stable and i'm quiet impress with the speed. BT is absolutely fine. tried to download a movie (350mb in size), it took 3.5 hours to complete. seems good to me.. and this download activity was done while i'm heavily browsing (youtube) and downloading other stuffs! heheh.. it's a free trial rite!
when i agreed to give wimax a try, they told me that there's only 1000 subscribers at this juncture. not really sure what will happen to the network when 100,000 people are subscribing.

btw, here's the todays speed clocked using P1 inet speed (http://speed.p1.com.my/)


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QUOTE(prasys @ Jul 29 2008, 05:56 PM)
Wow this is great news. Signed up for the trial and I've managed to get some in-sight scoop on their WiMax service. My friend is using the service as we speak , he doesn't want to post any screenies as he said that there is some sort of agreement that prohibits trial users to publish information

1) They are providing you with an External IP Address (just like streamyx) (Maxis will be dead meat after this , thank you maxis). This allows you to host games , and it will work for p2p. Horray !

2) The modem seems to be really big and bulky. Guess its the first generation.

3) Just like most of the wireless service out there , latency seems to be somewhat consistent. The ping rates are way lower then HSDPA , but then its not consitent as streamyx. At one moment you can get 68ms , the other moment 110ms. But so far it doesn't exceed 120ms for local links which seems to be good.

4) Speed on the other hand seems to be good. YouTube streaming is superb and I am able to stream live P2P Streaming stuff. It works like a charm as well
I'll try to persuade that guy to allow me to post the traceroute results

I'll also try to post my own results tooo once i've managed to get my hands on it !
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I recalled watching an interview with P1 CEO (not sure) and he said the big bulky modem is aimed towards users who use it at home. There will be smaller usb modem around the same size as HSDPA modem like the one offered by maxis/celcom but it will come out at a later date.

Regarding the pricing, I guess they will try to be competitive with streamyx so if the package is 1mbps I guess they will charge rm80/90 monthly but this is excluding the modem. I guess we will find out more about the pricing in August since it is the last month for Wimax operator to roll out their service and avoid the penalty.
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Hmm ... looking at the throughput, it seems like they are limiting the bandwidth to 1.5Mbps DL and 512kbps UL. That is 512kbps DL and 128kbps UL higher than StreamyX ... lol ... P1 is trying to intimidate TMnet hehehehe

Latency is low which is good, but jitter is important to determine whether the network is suitable for real time services. Is there a way to measure the jitter rate of the service?

prasys, where are your locations?
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QUOTE(prasys @ Jul 29 2008, 05:56 PM)
Wow this is great news. Signed up for the trial and I've managed to get some in-sight scoop on their WiMax service. My friend is using the service as we speak , he doesn't want to post any screenies as he said that there is some sort of agreement that prohibits trial users to publish information

1) They are providing you with an External IP Address (just like streamyx) (Maxis will be dead meat after this , thank you maxis). This allows you to host games , and it will work for p2p. Horray !

2) The modem seems to be really big and bulky. Guess its the first generation.

3) Just like most of the wireless service out there , latency seems to be somewhat consistent. The ping rates are way lower then HSDPA , but then its not consitent as streamyx. At one moment you can get 68ms , the other moment 110ms. But so far it doesn't exceed 120ms for local links which seems to be good.

4) Speed on the other hand seems to be good. YouTube streaming is superb and I am able to stream live P2P Streaming stuff. It works like a charm as well
I'll try to persuade that guy to allow me to post the traceroute results

I'll also try to post my own results tooo once i've managed to get my hands on it !
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From start to finish, I'm really more and more sold of its promise so far. Though as mentioned, the ping rates seems a little odd. I wonder why does it happen. Was it because it was raining or something else affecting it?

QUOTE(freezbies @ Jul 29 2008, 06:07 PM)
btw, here's the todays speed clocked using P1 inet speed (http://speed.p1.com.my/)
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That is seriously good. More so I want to get my own Wimax so I won't have to share the Streamyx in the house anymore. Yeay! rclxm9.gif

I tried out the speed test with my Streamyx and must say I'm no where near proud of it.




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if tmnut still not upgrade their service.. die soon!! should blame useless government.





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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 29 2008, 10:23 PM)
drool.gif 3 days ago...hmm.. you're into how many days of your trial already?
From start to finish, I'm really more and more sold of its promise so far. Though as mentioned, the ping rates seems a little odd. I wonder why does it happen. Was it because it was raining or something else affecting it?
That is seriously good. More so I want to get my own Wimax so I won't have to share the Streamyx in the house anymore. Yeay! rclxm9.gif

I tried out the speed test with my Streamyx and must say I'm no where near proud of it.
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Why is that? It seems quite good for Streamyx.

Usually ping time will rise when download begins ... but consistency needs to maintain.
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not sure whether i'm suppose to reveal.. but here's my results and this is the average since using WiMAX 3 days ago..
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talking about trial period which is 2 weeks, they told me that if i'm not satisfied with the service, I can just give the modem back to them without any charge. I also asked them on the package i.e. the monthly fees and initial subscription. But they weren't able to tell me (perhaps they haven't yet decided the final pricing). So i asked them with a different kind of question which could probably gimme an answer.... "What's the price if i loose them modem??" they told me that I will hv to pay them RM 1500. ahaaa.. so i guess this will be the price then. however i'm just assuming. not sure what's the actual pricing.

the signal is quiet stable.. most of the time i usually get green colour (RED=week, ORANGE=moderate, GREEN=good). And I don't even need to put near the window. my living room is fine. btw if you guys wanna know, i'm living at bdr baru sentul and i've done some research on other broadband services i.e. MAXIS (very poor), CELCOM (the speed rocks!), streamyx (never tried this before) and lastly WIMAX (really really rockss!! )..

so far WIMAX is pretty good/stable and i'm quiet impress with the speed. BT is absolutely fine. tried to download a movie (350mb in size), it took 3.5 hours to complete. seems good to me.. and this download activity was done while i'm heavily browsing (youtube) and downloading other stuffs! heheh.. it's a free trial rite!
when i agreed to give wimax a try, they told me that there's only 1000 subscribers at this juncture. not really sure what will happen to the network when 100,000 people are subscribing.

btw, here's the todays speed clocked using P1 inet speed (http://speed.p1.com.my/)
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It's really looking very promising... so what is the ave speed you get or mayb what is the minimum speed u ever experienced at least for now?
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jul 29 2008, 11:09 PM)
if tmnut still not upgrade their service.. die soon!!    should blame useless government.
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hopefully with emerging competition, streamyx will get better...otherwise you'll just end up with another monopoly by wimax and we don't want that do we? shakehead.gif

Anyway thanks to the person who answered my question..I guess we'll have to wait for the usb modem to come out.
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more ppl = slow...

at the moment i dont think they will throttle, but future for sure...

all ISP hates P2P activities running in their network.
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does wimax using public ip ?  can modem do port forward ?
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Yes , you get a Public IP Address. The IP range is 120.140.0.x - 124.141.0.x (I believe). The modem is a modem , you dont have to port forward if you have connected it directly to a PC !

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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 29 2008, 10:23 PM)
drool.gif 3 days ago...hmm.. you're into how many days of your trial already?
From start to finish, I'm really more and more sold of its promise so far. Though as mentioned, the ping rates seems a little odd. I wonder why does it happen. Was it because it was raining or something else affecting it?
That is seriously good. More so I want to get my own Wimax so I won't have to share the Streamyx in the house anymore. Yeay! rclxm9.gif

I tried out the speed test with my Streamyx and must say I'm no where near proud of it.
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The nature of the technology itself


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if tmnut still not upgrade their service.. die soon!!    should blame useless government.
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Honestly , your point doesn't make sense at all. TM provides a decent service so far with minor hiccups now and then. There isn't a single prefect iSP out there. IMO , you should opt for SDSL if you want more consistent speed. The more you pay , the better your service will be ! - But I do agree that TMnets service sucks. Heck , it even goes out to most of the ISPs out there here in Malaysia and Singapore !


QUOTE(Suk @ Jul 30 2008, 03:25 AM)
more ppl = slow...

at the moment i dont think they will throttle, but future for sure...

all ISP hates P2P activities running in their network.
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They have implemented QoS. Meaning that they always have the rights to throttle your bandwidth which is good and bad. The good news is that you can still p2p , watch youtube , download files and surf without any hiccups. the bad news is that , your p2p downloads might be slower !

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Hope Wimax does not become like Izzinet or Jaring WBB.

However, I have to concur the ping looks impressive.

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However, I have to concur the ping looks impressive.
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prasys, when u sign up for the trial, how u know u already been picked for the trial? I live in setapak too.
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prasys, when u sign up for the trial, how u know u already been picked for the trial? I live in setapak too.
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Hey... found something interesting happen in this coming PC fair 2008 in KLCC. P1 are giving free Canon Printer to those join the wimax contest. The contest form can be get from Facebook Event and www.p1w1max.com
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QUOTE(leonamanutd @ Jul 30 2008, 12:45 PM)
I thought the ping is not far different from Streamyx. I'm using Streamyx 1mbps and did the test on their page and gets about the same speed too. Nevertheless, still can't wait to be able to try WiMAX for myself..why is it confidential for those testers and cannot reveal much info? Any tester using the USB modem outside of home?
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streamyx is wired
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thats a BIG DIFFERENCE
dun compare ping with streamyx, compare with other wireless isp ping
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QUOTE(Karas Otoha @ Jul 30 2008, 04:26 PM)
Hey... found something interesting happen in this coming PC fair 2008 in KLCC. P1 are giving free Canon Printer to those join the wimax contest. The contest form can be get from Facebook Event and www.p1w1max.com
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Aww man...I would've love to get a 1 year free subscription! biggrin.gif

I won't mind them monopolizing the market as long their speed is consistent and their service is a ton better so we won't have to Scream at Screamyx.

Hmm...nature of technology affects the thing. But one thing I don't really get, how you guys are very impressed by the ping? Does that mean the response time from the server to the client is shorter resulting in speedier access?
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 30 2008, 08:54 PM)
Aww man...I would've love to get a 1 year free subscription! biggrin.gif

I won't mind them monopolizing the market as long their speed is consistent and their service is a ton better so we won't have to Scream at Screamyx.

Hmm...nature of technology affects the thing. But one thing I don't really get, how you guys are very impressed by the ping? Does that mean the response time from the server to the client is shorter resulting in speedier access?
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Agree! 1 year subscription will be good...but it's worth while to drop by at their booth also...
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 30 2008, 08:54 PM)
Aww man...I would've love to get a 1 year free subscription! biggrin.gif

I won't mind them monopolizing the market as long their speed is consistent and their service is a ton better so we won't have to Scream at Screamyx.

Hmm...nature of technology affects the thing. But one thing I don't really get, how you guys are very impressed by the ping? Does that mean the response time from the server to the client is shorter resulting in speedier access?
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the condition could be 2/3 true & 1/3 false too.

for an example streamyx, lower latency doesn't guarantee speedier access. hmm.gif

it really depend how they configure the routing & priority data.
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streaming video on p1 quite good smooth all the way, tried it out today during lunch when they had a booth setup at cosway
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Jul 30 2008, 05:10 PM)
streamyx is wired
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thats a BIG DIFFERENCE
dun compare ping with streamyx, compare with other wireless isp ping
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I'm only comparing because majority internet users are on Streamyx now, and WiMAX is basically targeting these internet users to change from Streamyx to WiMAX, so it is only normal that Streamyx users would wanna see how much difference in speed if they are to take the trouble to change. I'm talking purely speed here and not the other benefits of WiMAX such as its wireless ability etc, of course I understand there's a BIG DIFFERENCE when it comes to that, the flexibility it offers that Streamyx doesn't. We already know other Wireless ISP is not even worth to be compared, so there's no need to go into that. Having said that, I'm very much pro WiMAX, just that I was hoping WiMAX is able to offer at least 200% increase in speed compared to any other available broadband services around. Too much to ask?
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if wimax can support local connection with super speed and international speed to 2MB.... i am grab to see tat
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streaming video on p1 quite good smooth all the way, tried it out today during lunch when they had a booth setup at cosway
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I guess the next thing to test is download speed of say a 300MB file. smile.gif

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if wimax can support local connection with super speed and international speed to 2MB.... i am grab to see tat
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I'd like to know about that too. However, besides connection to both local and international it would also still depend on a server location.

Anyway, anyone going to tryout the Wimax thing in PC Fair later? I wanted to go tomorrow but I've got a full day of appointments. cry.gif
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Right now.. the speed that u get only under testing/beta, although it seems nice, but i wont buy it until commercial release.. but im hoping they can beat streamyx.. btw below is my 88 screamyx speed test


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If the modem is RM1500 that will be a killer. Even around that price range there had better be some T&C that could benefit the consumer in some ways. (like money back guarantee or satisfaction within 48 hrs)

Anyone care to speculate on the price list or package plans they have ?
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If the modem is RM1500 that will be a killer. Even around that price range there had better be some T&C that could benefit the consumer in some ways. (like money back guarantee or satisfaction within 48 hrs)

Anyone care to speculate on the price list or package plans they have ?
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When GSM and CDMA first arrived in Europe, the mobile operators are giving the handphone out for free (you have to pay if you lost it of course) with a year of subscription. I will foresee WiMAX is either a subsidy or a free CPE with a contract signup. But in the future, it might get cheaper that you can get it anywhere.


Satisfaction within 48 hours only? laugh.gif I will say at least 48 hours per week tongue.gif


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I'm only comparing because majority internet users are on Streamyx now, and WiMAX is basically targeting these internet users to change from Streamyx to WiMAX, so it is only normal that Streamyx users would wanna see how much difference in speed if they are to take the trouble to change. I'm talking purely speed here and not the other benefits of WiMAX such as its wireless ability etc, of course I understand there's a BIG DIFFERENCE when it  comes to that, the flexibility it offers that Streamyx doesn't. We already know other Wireless ISP is not even worth to be compared, so there's no need to go into that. Having said that, I'm very much pro WiMAX, just that I was hoping WiMAX is able to offer at least 200% increase in speed compared to any other available broadband services around. Too much to ask?
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I think i explained this before but here we go.

The speed offered by the new ISP usually will follow the trend of the current market. If you can see most people in Malaysia are using 1Mbps, I don't think any ISP will offer 200% more than that. Most people will still be looking for an affordable price instead of super speed because usually people just do web browsing at home. It's business, usually will target the majority users, not the minority who demands more bandwidth for p2p (p2p is the only reason why home users needs more bandwidth, no other service application for the time being that needs more than 1Mbps).

Besides of P2P, I see Quicktime HD video trailer as one of the application that uses the highest bandwidth, for a continous stream of a HD720p, you will probably need at least 5-6Mbps. Unless you have a HDTV connected to the computer, else you won't be able to enjoy the high definition feature tongue.gif.

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singapore isp offer 6 to 10Mbps speed only charge less than 70 sin dollar.got free gifts too with 2 years contract.and they salary are higher than malaysian.why? becsuse we have a boleh government and goods isp?
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WiMAX broadband service launched in Klang Valley

KUALA LUMPUR, Fri.:

Packet One Networks today launched the WiMAX broadband service in the Klang Valley, announcing immediate availability in the KLCC, Golden Triangle, Setapak, Gombak, Seri Rampai, Sentul and Pudu areas as well as parts of Subang Jaya, USJ and the Subang Hi-Tech area.

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wow the news of the launch so short and no hype, was it launched at PC Fair? What about rates, packages etc etc.

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P1 launches WiMAX broadband service in Klang Valley

KUALA LUMPUR, Fri.:

Packet One (P1) Networks Malaysia today launched its WiMAX broadband in the Klang Valley with the immediate availability of the service in KLCC, the Golden Triangle, Pekeliling, Setapak, Gombak, Seri Rampai, Sentul, Pudu, and selected areas in Subang Jaya, USJ 1 and 7, and the Subang Hi Tech area.
At the historic occasion, which marks the availability of one of the first IEEE 802.16e 2.3 GHz WiMAX network in the world, Packet One CEO Michael Lai said that by 2012, the company hoped to cover at least 65 percent of the country with the service.

Being tested at its areas of coverage prior to its actual roll-out sometime in mid August, Packet One is currently signing up trial users at the ongoing PC Fair 2008 at the KL Convention Centre. Alternatively, those interested in the free trial can also call its customer service at 1-300-800-888 or visit its website at www.p1w1max.com.

At the launch, 10 of the earliest users of Packet One's WiMAX service gave the thumbs-up to its connectivity and speed. The WiMAX monthly subscription is expected to be less than RM100, according to a company spokesperson.

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its comforting to know that prices could start from the RM100 mark and below.
thanks for the info birain !
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manage to test P1W1MAX.

speed are variable 50-220KB/s

the latency to "isp.tm.net.my" 50ms-300ms (the internet connection sharing with few user.)

50ms should be good enough for FPS gaming.

failed to test the VOIP, i can't wait them to fix problem.

btw the *chick thumbup.gif @..

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QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Aug 1 2008, 09:08 PM)
manage to test P1W1MAX.

speed are variable 50-220KB/s

the latency to "isp.tm.net.my" 50ms-300ms (the internet connection sharing with few user.)

50ms should be good enough for FPS gaming.

failed to test the VOIP, i can't wait them to fix problem.

btw the *chick thumbup.gif @..
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The booth is located in one of the most heavily shielded conference room on 3rd floor of KL Convention Center - only door is opened.(according to them, the basestation is about 500m away, outside of the convention center meaning no inbuilding coverage). No raining today.

Do you think it will affect the performance? In what sense?

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The booth is located in a heavily shielded conference room. No raining today.
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u read my mind !

but on a more serious note, yea, i'm waiting for the performance analysis from some kind soul under the actual m'sian weather conditions. i reckon it wont be too good. anyone wanna correct me ?
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QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Aug 1 2008, 09:08 PM)
manage to test P1W1MAX.

speed are variable 50-220KB/s

the latency to "isp.tm.net.my" 50ms-300ms (the internet connection sharing with few user.)

50ms should be good enough for FPS gaming.

failed to test the VOIP, i can't wait them to fix problem.

btw the *chick thumbup.gif @..
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Why ping to isp.tm.net.my? I think you should ping to the P1 gateway not Streamyx gateway.

VOIP can be tested anywhere like Skype and MSN ... I don't see how it's so interesting except they provide their own numbering system.
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Wow... I think if RM20 for 1GB without blocking the torrent. I think I will be the first one who line up and BUY P1 WIMAX. The speed is so fast. I tried it yesterday. Trying to stream YouTube. OMG... So smooth not even lag. I wan P1.

Anyway, heard that Streamyx is going to be fiber optic soon. Well... If it is confirmed then, should be faster right? Hmm... How about the price for streamyx after fiber optic? tongue.gif

I WAN P1 WIMAX. smile.gif
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got the bandwith but throttle torrent, shity latency .
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how about WiMax card? got sell already?

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By year-end, P1 targets to extend its WiMAX broadband coverage to Petaling Jaya, Damansara, Klang and Port Klang within the Klang Valley, Johor Baharu, Kedah, Perak, Negeri Sembilan, Melaka and major towns in the West Coast.


Here we are. the packages and pricing will be announced on Aug 19. cool2.gif

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Only 2 more weeks until the pricing. Too bad for the first phase my area not covered, bdr seri permaisuri/cheras.
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I was at their booth today. I tried out the YouTube streaming and can't believe it's speed. It's not click and load but obviously its way faster than streaming via Streamyx.

There were a ton of people queuing at the reception there as well. Think it's cause everyone wants to win a Canon printer or something.

I snapped a photo of the modem. You can compare to the size of the router beside it.

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A number of people were interested with it. Even a more senior consumer asked what it was about. tongue.gif
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I was at their booth today. I tried out the YouTube streaming and can't believe it's speed. It's not click and load but obviously its way faster than streaming via Streamyx.

There were a ton of people queuing at the reception there as well. Think it's cause everyone wants to win a Canon printer or something.

I snapped a photo of the modem. You can compare to the size of the router beside it.

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u test on sharing connection (3 or more PC) or standalone (single PC) ?

when i test with apple HD trailer, worst than my streamyx ... the data go in burst mode up & down. hmm.gif

btw everyone should test out the VOIP smile.gif at last i make it this time tongue.gif
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QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Aug 2 2008, 11:31 PM)
u test on sharing connection (3 or more PC) or standalone (single PC) ?

when i test with apple HD trailer, worst than my streamyx ... the data go in burst mode up & down. hmm.gif

btw everyone should test out the VOIP smile.gif at last i make it this time tongue.gif
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All the laptops have a dedicated CPE connected to it.

It's difficult to test using Apple HD because it's a public server, how do you tell if it's the server uplink problem at that moment? Minimum HD requirement is 3.6Mbps for smooth viewing for HD480p.

VOIP using very small bandwidth but with QoS though.
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got the bandwith but throttle torrent, shity latency .
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I know some ISP that offer high bandwidth with good latency and no throttle torrent. It just that I don't think you can afford it. It's called leased line. tongue.gif. If you are torrenting basically you are using the shared line as leased line .. shouldn't you be paying for leased line price? Note that 1Mbps is RM2000 for leased line and you are paying RM88 for Streamyx now. Which ISP in the world that allow torrenting? People say Singapore has 10Mbps to home, Korea has 40Mbps to home, etc etc ... is it throttled?


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Only 2 more weeks until the pricing. Too bad for the first phase my area not covered, bdr seri permaisuri/cheras.
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The Testing User should have known the pricing already since today they have shown the video on the big screen tv that first 10 WiMAX users that convert to actual paying subscriber. Yea, shit ... my area also not covered.

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 2 2008, 11:40 PM)
All the laptops have a dedicated CPE connected to it.

It's difficult to test using Apple HD because it's a public server, how do you tell if it's the server uplink problem at that moment? Minimum HD requirement is 3.6Mbps for smooth viewing for HD480p.

VOIP using very small bandwidth but with QoS though.
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Friday i'm sure at least 2 booth, are using sharing concept. only middle are dedicated unit.

i'm trying to mean, P1 W1MAX can't have constant downstream speed sad.gif is not about the streaming hiccups.

the VOIP booth, also using dedicated unit.
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I saw the Two of the PacketEyes laptop units are using Wifi not WiMAX wink.gif. They claimed the Wifi AP WAN is connected to the WiMAX CPE.

Another setup is actually with two tv but only one CPE.
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Here we are. the packages and pricing will be announced on Aug 19. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 3 2008, 12:32 AM)
I saw the Two of the PacketEyes laptop units are using Wifi not WiMAX wink.gif. They claimed the Wifi AP WAN is connected to the WiMAX CPE.

Another setup is actually with two tv but only one CPE.
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You didn't take photo of their setup? Is there no revealing of actual pricing even at PC fair?
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QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Aug 2 2008, 11:56 PM)
i'm trying to mean, P1 W1MAX can't have constant downstream speed sad.gif is not about the streaming hiccups.
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Urm...when you say not a constant downstream, do you mean the download speed isn't constant?

But come to think of it, doesn't speed fluctuate and isn't pure.

QUOTE(leonamanutd @ Aug 4 2008, 03:50 PM)
Is there no revealing of actual pricing even at PC fair?
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As much as I overheard the promoters explaining to people, they educated more on the differences between Wimax and Wifi. Never did mention about the final pricing of the packages yet.

Though somewhere sometime ago I read the prices were going to be possibly below RM100 to contend against Streamyx. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 5 2008, 12:24 AM)
Urm...when you say not a constant downstream, do you mean the download speed isn't constant?

But come to think of it, doesn't speed fluctuate and isn't pure.
As much as I overheard the promoters explaining to people, they educated more on the differences between Wimax and Wifi. Never did mention about the final pricing of the packages yet.

Though somewhere sometime ago I read the prices were going to be possibly below RM100 to contend against Streamyx. hmm.gif
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yup, the download speed & fluc alot.

lucky they never block task manager @ notebook, can monitor graph (fluc) brows.gif
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yup, the download speed & fluc alot.

lucky they never block task manager @ notebook, can monitor graph (fluc) brows.gif
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How do you monitor the fluctuation of the download thru the task manager?
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When you pull up your Task Manager, there's a Networking tab.

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However, this networking tab to me doesn't show the performance of an Internet line. It's more like how data is being transferred to your computer via the network.

Hmm...the trial users who were here have gone awfully quiet all of a sudden. I wonder where are they. I want to know if the performance dropped or not. sad.gif
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When you pull up your Task Manager, there's a Networking tab.

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However, this networking tab to me doesn't show the performance of an Internet line. It's more like how data is being transferred to your computer via the network.

Hmm...the trial users who were here have gone awfully quiet all of a sudden. I wonder where are they. I want to know if the performance dropped or not. sad.gif
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Last week, i tried register free trial on their website, and today i got a call from PacketOne. Telling me that i was the one selected to try out their service. But unfortunately, when they wanted to re-confirm my address to deliver modem to me, "IT FAILED" because for the trial period they only accept those residences within on 9th Floor and below. and currently i living in 15th floor = =" even my area fully covered.

Eventhough, i failed, i took the chance to ask him more about the service. He told me that most probably the service will be launch on early September. For home user, max speed they provided is 2.4Mbps with a cheap price compared to other ISP. Wow, that's really impressive. Let's see how's it..

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Ugh, I thought they will make the service ready on the 19th of August? Come on, later early september only release the pricing. Selected user early october, Whole klang valley next year.
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QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 5 2008, 10:55 PM)
Last week, i tried register free trial on their website, and today i got a call from PacketOne. Telling me that i was the one selected to try out their service. But unfortunately, when they wanted to re-confirm my address to deliver modem to me, "IT FAILED" because for the trial period they only accept those residences within on 9th Floor and below. and currently i living in 15th floor = =" even my area fully covered.

Eventhough, i failed, i took the chance to ask him more about the service. He told me that most probably the service will be launch on early September. For home user, max speed they provided is 2.4Mbps with a cheap price compared to other ISP. Wow, that's really impressive. Let's see how's it..
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can u define "cheap" price in a more specific manner ?
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I think this month should be trial period for the PacketOne before they launch their WiMax service. Anyway, it was good to give some guinea pig to test it out first and keep tweaking. In term, can improve their services before open to the public.
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QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 5 2008, 10:55 PM)

Eventhough, i failed, i took the chance to ask him more about the service. He told me that most probably the service will be launch on early September. For home user, max speed they provided is 2.4Mbps with a cheap price compared to other ISP. Wow, that's really impressive. Let's see how's it..
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Obviously the customer service guy is bull shitting judging from the use of words ... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 5 2008, 11:31 PM)
can u define "cheap" price in a more specific manner ?
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The guy still doesn't wanted to answer this question as he said the company still in-considering the pricing.

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 5 2008, 11:34 PM)
Obviously the customer service guy is bull shitting judging from the use of words ...  whistling.gif
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Haha, Who knows how it could be. We just can sit while waiting for them to release the final announcement. That's could be truth lolx

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Is it true they gonna announce it on the 19th of August?
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Is it true they gonna announce it on the 19th of August?
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anybody got their free trial yet? smile.gif i registered on their website already but nobody contacted me yet sad.gif
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i'm still waiting for some kind soul to post results on a bad weather condition. as i'm also looking forward to these services, i do hope signal strength doesnt deteriorate too badly. looks like today is gonna be a good day for testing ....anyone with results while raining heavily please advice.
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anybody got their free trial yet? smile.gif i registered on their website already but nobody contacted me yet sad.gif
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the customer service is quite nice.........they will assist u all the way...
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I registered on last Sunday. and last night i got a call from them.
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This is what I got when I accessed my P1 Max Trial Account. From my P1 wallet, I can see the following to top-up my account.

RM5 = 10 Days
RM10 = 20 Days
RM20 = 40 Days
RM30 = 60 Days
RM50 = 100 Days
RM100 = 200 Days

If I read correctly what I am reading that means it's literally RM 30 for 2 months at 1mbps! I am currently getting 1.3-1.5mbps. Location Setapak.

However, I also found out that E-Mule does not work well with this modem since UPNP is not enabled by default and there is no way to access your modem settings since the username and password is hardcoded and is only known to P1. Secondly, torrents are giving varying speeds but I need to test more before I can confirm this.
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Anyone using P1 show me international speedtest.net results
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Here are 4 sites which I just tested a few minutes ago from the time of this posting.


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Nice speed. Is Old klang road > batu 6 near the mosque there has this service?
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announce for another delay to year 2009 tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 6 2008, 12:30 PM)
i'm still waiting for some kind soul to post results on a bad weather condition. as i'm also looking forward to these services, i do hope signal strength doesnt deteriorate too badly. looks like today is gonna be a good day for testing ....anyone with results while raining heavily please advice.
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Previously it's not really been raining. It's been hot like don't know what. But what's funny is how 1 member mentioned they couldn't approve his application because he was located at 15th floor. huh.gif

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I registered on last Sunday. and last night i got a call from them.
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i wonder...if the wimax modem has to be placed near a window (or else could not receive signal)...how would this technology in the future be used in handphones when ppl are located inside buildings?
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hmmm better than streamyx oh?? how bout torrenting... coz will download gundam 00 anime or other usa series.. hmmm
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Thread Cleaned and Merged

I've merged few similar threads into one and cleaned couple of smaller ones. So it will be easier for users to disuss on P1 WiMax Service !

Just a bit of housekeeping
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QUOTE(unnamed @ Aug 6 2008, 09:29 PM)
i wonder...if the wimax modem has to be placed near a window (or else could not receive signal)...how would this technology in the future be used in handphones when ppl are located inside buildings?
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Do you think the signal from outside can actually penetrate into the shopping mall?

For building such as shopping mall, movie theatre, high rise building, actually the solution will be inbuilding coverage but not relying on outdoor signal penetration.

WiMAX on 2.3 Ghz is known to have lower penetration compared to GSM but almost the same with 3G.

They are more than happy to full blast into everyone house but MCMC has provided with EIRP limitation for health reason.
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QUOTE(nickelby @ Aug 6 2008, 07:01 PM)
This is what I got when I accessed my P1 Max Trial Account. From my P1 wallet, I can see the following to top-up my account.

RM5 = 10 Days
RM10 = 20 Days
RM20 = 40 Days
RM30 = 60 Days
RM50 = 100 Days
RM100 = 200 Days

If I read correctly what I am reading that means it's literally RM 30 for 2 months at 1mbps! I am currently getting 1.3-1.5mbps. Location Setapak.

However, I also found out that E-Mule does not work well with this modem since UPNP is not enabled by default and there is no way to access your modem settings since the username and password is hardcoded and is only known to P1. Secondly, torrents are giving varying speeds but I need to test more before I can confirm this.
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Why no one has been giving their comments on the pricing yet? I think it is really cheap but this could not be the real pricing package. We all know we need a modem to use Wimax service. I don't think they will give it for free and then charge like rm30 for 2 months. That would be crazy right?
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Why no one has been giving their comments on the pricing yet? I think it is really cheap but this could not be the real pricing package. We all know we need a modem to use Wimax service. I don't think they will give it for free and then charge like rm30 for 2 months. That would be crazy right?
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prefer wait for official pricing. the subscription might be cheap.

price for this are still missing.
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Yeah better to wait for official pricing. Who knows that price list is also just "trial" prices. But just because the speed is good now doesn't mean that it will last like that forever. The service is still new hence not many people are using so the ISP has a better hand in managing it. Time will tell if it doesn't turn out to be like Streamyx. Streamyx at one point was very good (back in 2002 when I first subscribed).
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The throughput will always be good in the beginning but it's all depend whether the ISP will become greedy and oversell their network until everyone feels that their internet is slow. Obviously everyone is not supposed to hog the bandwidth for themselves only as it's best effort not leased line. With overbooking rate of let say 40, 1 Mbps supposed to be shared among 40 people, by right this is reasonable number of overbooking. However, if this 40 people are doing p2p download hogging the bandwidth, then everyone will end up getting a slowdown. Both the ISP and the users are actually responsible, that's why most ISP throttle the p2p.
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sorry guys, Wimax won't be cheap according to internal sources. Expect it to be around 100+
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Hhm 100+ is still ok. as long not 200+. I'm already paying 100+ for streamyx anyways coz have to pay for phone line too. but dunno if WiMAX need to use phone line or not...
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QUOTE(leonamanutd @ Aug 7 2008, 03:03 PM)
Hhm 100+ is still ok. as long not 200+. I'm already paying 100+ for streamyx anyways coz have to pay for phone line too. but dunno if WiMAX need to use phone line or not...
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Wimax is wireless, of course you don't need to use a phone line. But the thing is, it's more or less like 3G, you need a modem to use the service, could be blardy expensive or they could introduce a 24 months contract.
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What I was known is this W1MAX is a very new ISP, the user not yet much. As we know, last few years the streamyx very fast. After few months, the user has been increase. Hence, the service gets little bit slowly and month by month the services getting slow then slow until everyone leave. After that the Celcom and Maxis 3G arrive, by that time I have use celcom until now and maxis for 1 year. The time that celcom 3G lunch, I brought the Huawei E220 modem at RM1, 500 can’t believe right that time when I purchase the 1st generation of Huawei E220 that is the 1st modem of 3.6Mbps. After I use 3 month of celcom 3G the service getting slower then slower. The definition is the much user use the service the ISP will get slower as my knowledge. The maxis 3G I don’t want mention already, not recommended to gamer, it’s every time DC and some time can’t connect besides the ISP every time giving the reason that they are under maintenance and so on. That is all the reason of the all ISP when slow connection reason “Maintenanceâ€. In my opinion, I think that the W1MAX surely starting fast due to still don’t have any user using only test user. The entire ISP is same as 100 GB connection divide by the total user for example. The more users the more slow. Furthermore, they going give us a contract of 2 year that the 2008 PIKOM at KLCC Convention Center Promoter told me that I only guest have 1 year but is 2 years. If 1st month you use the ISP good speed, after 2nd month slower and the 3rd month sucks, you have to pay the $$ for 2 years due to you have sign the 2 years contract.


Added on August 7, 2008, 5:49 pmBesides, W1MAX have blocked the P2P connection and Torrent Connection is the fact. On the other hand, we still don’t know there is any limit on the maximum download per month such as 3GB Maxis and 5GB Celcom. If 1 month they allow you do download 3GB total Bandwidth how much you can download, that only target to some heavy download people.


Added on August 7, 2008, 5:58 pmIn addition, I have use the izzinet, the service is fine but at my knowledge we need to find the strong frequency location such as bring the iZZi device to find the perfect 100% connection. It reminds me the old story as Feng Shui master find the $$ spot at the house…. Kind a zzzzz and the iZZi connection are very sensitive and when move left or right a bit the % will drop.


Added on August 7, 2008, 6:03 pmIn my conclusion, test two week is fine due to try period is two week, after two week W1MAX will need you to sign 2 years contract, unless they are gave us trust and prove their quality of service. Otherwise, if you sign up without do any survey, who knows what its end up.

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Very good point.

Perhaps it's a good idea to wait for a few years until you decide to subscribe to it?

According to the agreement, after two weeks, you have choice to continue to subscribe to the service or to terminate ... but it does not state
>>>NEED YOU TO SIGN 2 YEARS CONTRACT<<< after the trial period ends.
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how would this technology in the future be used in handphones when ppl are located inside buildings?
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Well, I think it's some form of chipset they have to build into a device. As technology progresses, they shrink therefore mobile devices might see a smaller form factor in future even when the standard supports Wimax. At least, that's what I feel towards technology advancements. tongue.gif

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Thread Cleaned and Merged

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No wonder I couldn't find the previous one. LOL! But good call.

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Do you think the signal from outside can actually penetrate into the shopping mall?
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This is something I wouldn't mind knowing as well. Especially if you're sitting in a cafe deep center inside the mall or Lower Ground. hmm.gif

QUOTE(nickelby @ Aug 7 2008, 06:51 AM)
Yeah better to wait for official pricing. Who knows that price list is also just "trial" prices. But just because the speed is good now doesn't mean that it will last like that forever. The service is still new hence not many people are using so the ISP has a better hand in managing it. Time will tell if it doesn't turn out to be like Streamyx. Streamyx at one point was very good (back in 2002 when I first subscribed).
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Well...many of us are still awaiting their official announcement. It's like though we hear so much about P1 but we they haven't tempted us yet with their prices. I wonder why. Hmm...

And yes, they better be prepared to build more stations to maintain a consistent performance of their promised speeds. Otherwise, we'll hear the same old thing in the blogosphere about inconsistent connection speeds and worst, downtime. T_T

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sorry guys, Wimax won't be cheap according to internal sources. Expect it to be around 100+

Sure boh?! Well...if it's the 2.6Mbps one like PC Fair. I sure as hell wouldn't mind. If it's RM80-90 for 1.5Mbps, that would be ideal for me. thumbup.gif
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It was raining today. How was the service reception? Does it affect Wimax?

And check this out:

http://www.malaysianwireless.com/
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What I was known is this W1MAX is a very new ISP, the user not yet much. As we know, last few years the streamyx very fast. After few months, the user has been increase. Hence, the service gets little bit slowly and month by month the services getting slow then slow until everyone leave. After that the Celcom and Maxis 3G arrive, by that time I have use celcom until now and maxis for 1 year. The time that celcom 3G lunch, I brought the Huawei E220 modem at RM1, 500 can’t believe right that time when I purchase the 1st generation of Huawei E220 that is the 1st modem of 3.6Mbps. After I use 3 month of celcom 3G the service getting slower then slower. The definition is the much user use the service the ISP will get slower as my knowledge.  The maxis 3G I don’t want mention already, not recommended to gamer, it’s every time DC and some time can’t connect besides the ISP every time giving the reason that they are under maintenance and so on. That is all the reason of the all ISP when slow connection reason “Maintenanceâ€. In my opinion, I think that the W1MAX surely starting fast due to still don’t have any user using only test user. The entire ISP is same as 100 GB connection divide by the total user for example. The more users the more slow. Furthermore, they going give us a contract of 2 year that the 2008 PIKOM at KLCC Convention Center Promoter told me that I only guest have 1 year but is 2 years. If 1st month you use the ISP good speed, after 2nd month slower and the 3rd month sucks, you have to pay the $$ for 2 years due to you have sign the 2 years contract.


Added on August 7, 2008, 5:49 pmBesides, W1MAX have blocked the P2P connection and Torrent Connection is the fact. On the other hand, we still don’t know there is any limit on the maximum download per month such as 3GB Maxis and 5GB Celcom. If 1 month they allow you do download 3GB total Bandwidth how much you can download, that only target to some heavy download people.


Added on August 7, 2008, 5:58 pmIn addition, I have use the izzinet, the service is fine but at my knowledge we need to find the strong frequency location such as bring the iZZi device to find the perfect 100% connection.  It reminds me the old story as Feng Shui master find the $$ spot at the house…. Kind a zzzzz and the iZZi connection are very sensitive and when move left or right a bit the % will drop.


Added on August 7, 2008, 6:03 pmIn my conclusion, test two week is fine due to try period is two week, after two week W1MAX will need you to sign 2 years contract, unless  they are gave us trust and prove their quality of service. Otherwise, if you sign up without do any survey, who knows what its end up.
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Aug 8 2008, 12:55 AM)
wimax is not an ISP lol
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PAcketone is the company name.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 8 2008, 06:02 AM)
Wimax is an ISP  Internet serice provider.

PAcketone is the company name.
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WIMAX is not ISP, WIMAX is a technology WIKI WIMAX

Packet One is the company that provide this technology and the Internet access, therefore Packet One is the ISP.

Malaysia ISP(so far as i know):

TM - Streamyx
Izzi
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Maxis - Maxis Broadband
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P1 claims this in their website. Those staying USJ1 & 2 also can sign up for trial online...
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hey guys is this P1 W1Max an ISP (internet service provider) or not ?

this should be its offical website : http://www.p1w1max.com/
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LOL P1 is an ISP... wimax is the technology... and IMO, wireless internet will sux to gamers and downloaders... imagine u r downloading somthing big and tat webserver doesnt allow resume on ur download manager... at 98%, the line is drop.. omg... i'll hang to streamyx. i got very good speed at my place, low ping at garena, torrents up and running, download manager goes to 200kB w/ 8 connections, speedtest to msia server got 1.4mbps. wimax will particularly be the same as celcom and maxis 3g. if u guys juz do the surfing and mailing like any other businessman do, then wimax is a good option. and oh, dont be fooled by their "up to 3.6mbps!! or up to "4.8gbps!!" crap. they will always stated there "on best effort" which will never be reached. period.

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LOL P1 is an ISP... wimax is the technology... and IMO, wireless internet will sux to gamers and downloaders... imagine u r downloading somthing big and tat webserver doesnt allow resume on ur download manager... at 98%, the line is drop.. omg... i'll hang to streamyx. i got very good speed at my place, low ping at garena, torrents up and running, download manager goes to 200kB w/ 8 connections, speedtest to msia server got 1.4mbps. wimax will particularly be the same as celcom and maxis 3g. if u guys juz do the surfing and mailing like any other businessman do, then wimax is a good option. and oh, dont be fooled by their "up to 3.6mbps!! or up to "4.8gbps!!" crap. they will always stated there "on best effort" which will never be reached. period.
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When is the last time you touch your streamyx? lol. 200kb using http? If its during midnight or local connection or ever 'last time' its possible. But now? Wake up buddy.

Streamyx download and upload speed is guaranteed for local content access only. TM is not responsible for the low speed of either download or upload of international content access.


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QUOTE(Nels @ Aug 8 2008, 03:59 PM)
When is the last time you touch your streamyx? lol. 200kb using http? If its during midnight or local connection or ever 'last time' its possible. But now? Wake up buddy.

Streamyx download and upload speed is guaranteed for local content access only. TM is not responsible for the low speed of either download or upload of international content access.
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anytime of the day and anytime of the night. i touch my streamyx everyday. tmnet is not responsible, so i got 200kB, they are not responsible, who cares? its a good speed! i got a 2mb conn for juz 1mb bill icon_idea.gif jeles edi? yey!

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ok wateva this thread is about, question is, in general is this better then streamyx?
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ok wateva this thread is about, question is, in general is this better then streamyx?
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BETTER if u r juz a light to medium users only, email, surf, frenster, ym, skype...
NOT SO BETTER if u r gaming with it or hardcore downloading with it...

wireless internet have a lot of losses = high ping
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I have tried to ping WOW server with P1 Wimax and the result is a lot stable than tmnut.
Ping response time is almost same like 200-350 ms.
I have 20-50% packet lost with tmnet and P1 Wimax so far have zero packet lost.

Though i haven't have chance to test more as the trial account belongs to my friend.
Anyone with P1 Wimax try online games like WOW & etc?

Also even if your place is not covered u probably can still use it coz my friend register with
office address which is within coverage but when he bring back to home which is NOT within
coverage he still can use it and... the speed is even faster!

I really hope P1 Wimax can end my forever struggling tmnut online gaming experience sad.gif


Ok, got some info from some broadband technical forum regarding wimax for gaming

"Will WiMax be a suitable alternative to ADSL when used mainly for online gaming?More dependant on the end to end path e.g. backhauls, core network, interconnects, intl etc.

As as far as the the air interface goes (Wimax), you should expect to see a sustained IP roundtrip of 30-40ms in the real world with a reasonable signal and no excessive sector contention."

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That's a helpful info you got there EDK. May I know whether your friend's house far away from nearest trial area or just beside it.
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Wimax is an ISP   Internet serice provider.

PAcketone is the company name.
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Packet One (P1) is the company name. P1 W1MAX is the service name (note that it's a 1 not I).

Telekom ™ is the company name. StreamyX is the service name.

Maxis is the company name. Maxis 3G is the service name.


Added on August 8, 2008, 9:44 pm
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wireless internet have a lot of losses = high ping
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hmm.gif In the past, when people say wireless internet, they are actually talking about Wifi.
But in present, technology like iBurst, 3G and WiMAX will be better in term of performance compared to Wifi technology.


Added on August 8, 2008, 9:53 pmBy the way, saw this on a blog

http://webtown.typepad.com/webtown/2008/08...-2008-pm--.html

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ok wateva this thread is about, question is, in general is this better then streamyx?
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Well...many expressed stability so far. That's in terms of general usage. In terms of computer gaming, no one reported that yet. As for p2p, unless you're one of those who they bumped up your speed accidentally or to keep you quiet...no one's compared the p2p of Streamyx and Wimax yet.

QUOTE(typicalsite @ Aug 8 2008, 04:17 PM)
BETTER if u r juz a light to medium users only, email, surf, frenster, ym, skype...
NOT SO BETTER if u r gaming with it or hardcore downloading with it...

wireless internet have a lot of losses = high ping
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Are you a trial user who's already tested online gaming and p2p with Wimax?

Anyway, I'm still figuring out WHY they say higher than 10 floors isn't suitable. hmm.gif
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just got my modem today for trial smile.gif
initial test at subang 13 is very good at 1.5mbps using speedtest in the evening

but now in subang ss17 at night... almost not moving at all sad.gif sad.gif

now testing
P1 vs Maxis vs celcom

guess who win smile.gif
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just got my modem today for trial smile.gif
initial test at subang 13 is very good at 1.5mbps using speedtest in the evening

but now in subang ss17 at night... almost not moving at all sad.gif sad.gif

now testing
P1 vs Maxis vs celcom

guess who win smile.gif
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Can you post on the configuration. I mean do you get an External IP and are the ports opened ?
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i am getting addresses like 120.140.xx.xx
ports are all closed as expected like jaring's cpe


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:22 pmconfiguration? there is none.. just plug and play


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:22 pmthe gateway ip is 10.1.1.1

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i am getting addresses like 120.140.xx.xx
ports are all closed as expected like jaring's cpe


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:22 pmconfiguration? there is none.. just plug and play
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And you are using the P1 W1MAX while posting this post?
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DNS are 122.255.96.136 , 122.255.96.146


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:23 pmyup.. 3 pcs running now
p1 vs celcom vs maxis

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i am getting addresses like 120.140.xx.xx
ports are all closed as expected like jaring's cpe


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:22 pmconfiguration? there is none.. just plug and play


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:22 pmthe gateway ip is 10.1.1.1
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I think your gateway ip is wrong.
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gateway ip is set automatically. the modem itself has a dhcp server

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gateway ip is set automatically. the modem itself has a dhcp server
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Pinging 10.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
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Pinging 10.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 10.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
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Speedtest.net not moving ... hmm http://speed.p1.com.my?
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speedtest is moving now
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speedtest is moving now
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Ping to San Francisco can move? ... ping to KL cannot move hmm.gif
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test to KL is not so accurate as the speedtest bars are spiking type.
i can get as fast as this:
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but during surfing/ youtube everything else is slow

its a nice test to start youtube all three at the same time smile.gif
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 8 2008, 10:05 PM)
Well...many expressed stability so far. That's in terms of general usage. In terms of computer gaming, no one reported that yet. As for p2p, unless you're one of those who they bumped up your speed accidentally or to keep you quiet...no one's compared the p2p of Streamyx and Wimax yet.
Are you a trial user who's already tested online gaming and p2p with Wimax?

Anyway, I'm still figuring out WHY they say higher than 10 floors isn't suitable. hmm.gif
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They said higher than 10 floor is not suitable because for this moment, All PacketOne's signal antena are not that high enough to support a good signal or performance for the higher buildings. But, they also did mention about in the future, The company will support the signal for much higher buildings, condos and apartments areas.
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the admin page is at 10.1.1.254


Added on August 9, 2008, 1:07 amTracing route to google.com [72.14.207.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 4 ms 1 ms 10.1.1.254
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 52 ms 65 ms 64 ms 172.16.162.125
5 61 ms 65 ms 64 ms 122.255.98.129
6 62 ms 65 ms 63 ms 122.255.98.42
7 67 ms 64 ms 69 ms 122.255.98.34
8 66 ms 69 ms 73 ms 122.255.98.38
9 71 ms 66 ms 69 ms fe3-10.br01.klp01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.167.69]
10 162 ms 99 ms 99 ms 72.14.196.133
11 98 ms 99 ms 104 ms 64.233.175.207
12 152 ms 149 ms 150 ms 209.85.252.105
13 266 ms 269 ms 275 ms 209.85.248.131
14 318 ms 324 ms 329 ms 72.14.233.118
15 342 ms 320 ms 324 ms 72.14.232.113
16 339 ms 333 ms 329 ms 72.14.236.134
17 336 ms 325 ms 324 ms eh-in-f99.google.com [72.14.207.99]

Trace complete.

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 8 2008, 11:21 PM)
i am getting addresses like 120.140.xx.xx
ports are all closed as expected like jaring's cpe


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:22 pmconfiguration? there is none.. just plug and play


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:22 pmthe gateway ip is 10.1.1.1
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Ports are blocked. Oh great , they are NATing just like Maxis and other things. That is bad. I think I'll stick with Streamyx. You sure that there is no way one can port forward ?
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Why i have go to http://www.p1w1max.com/ for sign up for try from PIKOM PC Fair but still not get any call or respond that they giving me try. It seems they don't let people try. After that, when i call to their customer service center, they said that maybe is my location no coverage. I told them i am at setapak, and then they say that they pick the name as luckily draw omg.... only the chosen one can be a tester....

Is it any way to be tester, my luck not very good. Every time draw i sure lose, so don't need think about tester.

1 good suggestion, luckily draw should be giving freebie? But a testing 2 week only after that need sign 2 years contract?

Besides, they ask me when i subscribe to be tester, i tell them at the PIKOM KLCC Convention Center. They said 3 day they will give respond to the winner of tester, after 3 day if they no contact you will consider loser.

Lastly, i ask them how to encounter this loser situation, they said ask us keep summit the online application….. haiz…..FREE USE 2 WEEK….. SO HARD TO GET IT…..

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Well it make sense they will give trial to limited user. Don't fret over it too much. Most likely it will launch in few weeks if not on19th August.
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I guess P1 is just another Maxis Broadband in the making

lj0000, I hope you can run nmap for me to determine if Port 23 and Port 22 are opened. If SSH/Telnet is opened , we can take a look at the modem if we are able to port forward or not !
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 8 2008, 11:11 PM)
just got my modem today for trial smile.gif
initial test at subang 13 is very good at 1.5mbps using speedtest in the evening

but now in subang ss17 at night... almost not moving at all sad.gif sad.gif

now testing
P1 vs Maxis vs celcom

guess who win smile.gif
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This sounds like dejavu.

Webbit, Jaring wireless.......
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I guess P1 is just another Maxis Broadband in the making

lj0000, I hope you can run nmap for me to determine if Port 23 and Port 22 are opened. If SSH/Telnet is opened , we can take a look at the modem if we are able to port forward or not !
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I thought you are a trial user. shakehead.gif
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May I ask how many people that in this forum get try 2 week time?
I mean how many % get free try and how long you wait until they contact you all.

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May I ask how many people that in this forum get try 2 week time?
I mean how many % get free try and how long you wait until they contact you all.
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well i did get my trial on Wimax for 1month.
you can register through on9...they will contact you if u under coverage within 2 days.
No idea on the percentages of getting trial.. tongue.gif
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Nope. I wasn't selected but my friend is and he did not let me to test other then just the speed alone. It seems that its written there in the Terms of Agreement that the user shouldn't be allowed to publish such things
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I guess P1 is just another Maxis Broadband in the making

lj0000, I hope you can run nmap for me to determine if Port 23 and Port 22 are opened. If SSH/Telnet is opened , we can take a look at the modem if we are able to port forward or not !
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What's the importance of doing port forwarding for home users?


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open ports so far
80, 513

later try nmap tonight smile.gif

port opening will bring great benefits to heavy users like us smile.gif

the OS if not mistaken is again linux, almost same fortress like jaring's CPE. Dejavu?
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For an average user , nothing. For p2pers , it means heaven and it allows other computers to establish a direct connection with their pc which dramatically increases the speed. For gamers , it enables them to host games such as DOTA (Warcraft III) or your own Counter-Strike Server. For pro users , it allows their pc to act as a SSH Server , web server and a VNC server - which allows them to remote control their home computer. Lots of benefits

ISPs in Malaysia that offers Public IP with the ability to port forward - TM Streamyx , Jaring Wired/Wireless (jaring doesn't block any external port , Time Webbit Wireless Broadband and izzi



QUOTE(lj0000 @ Aug 9 2008, 04:15 PM)
open ports so far
80, 513

later try nmap tonight smile.gif

port opening will bring great benefits to heavy users like us smile.gif

the OS if not mistaken is again linux, almost same fortress like jaring's CPE. Dejavu?
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I hope you can conduct some tests later. Oh if you have MSN or any IM - I would love to get in touch with you - The reason is mainly to collect data and then write a report and publish it , so that it will be useful for other WiMax customers and other folks alike. I do have a couple of tools but you may have to download cygwin and run it - as most of it are meant for *nix platform. This to gather data on the modem and post more information about it

Its Linux for sure , port 80 in this case refers to apache/web service - that is meant for the web configuration and port 513 in this case is rlogin - remote login which is something like telnet and allows remote login , in other words it allows you to login remotely. But rlogin is rarely used these days as its not secure , I guess it will be used by p1 folks/support team to monitor or to perform upgrades or tweaking in the modem. This GIVES them full control over the modem/connection which is bad

I guess I'll have to stick with my trusty streamyx for now !
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QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 9 2008, 12:36 AM)
They said higher than 10 floor is not suitable because for this moment, All PacketOne's signal antena are not that high enough to support a good signal or performance for the higher buildings. But, they also did mention about in the future, The company will support the signal for much higher buildings, condos and apartments areas.
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Ahhh, so that's the explanation of it. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(owc @ Aug 9 2008, 10:35 AM)
Why i have go to http://www.p1w1max.com/ for sign up for try from PIKOM PC Fair but still not get any call or respond that they giving me try. It seems they don't let people try. After that, when i call to their customer service center, they said that maybe is my location no coverage. I told them i am at setapak, and then they say that they pick the name as luckily draw omg.... only the chosen one can be a tester....

Is it any way to be tester, my luck not very good. Every time draw i sure lose, so don't need think about tester.

1 good suggestion, luckily draw should be giving freebie? But a testing 2 week only after that need sign 2 years contract?

Besides, they ask me when i subscribe to be tester, i tell them at the PIKOM KLCC Convention Center. They said 3 day they will give respond to the winner of tester, after 3 day if they no contact you will consider loser.

Lastly, i ask them how to encounter this loser situation, they said ask us keep summit the online application….. haiz…..FREE USE 2 WEEK….. SO HARD TO GET IT…..
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Well, besides data mining I suppose it's not you're a loser or anything but it's really dumb luck if you get to try the service. For the 2 year thing, I believe it's just a rumour and not a conclusive concrete information of it. So we'll have to wait and see later.

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For an average user , nothing. For p2pers , it means heaven and it allows other computers to establish a direct connection with their pc which dramatically increases the speed. For gamers , it enables them to host games such as DOTA (Warcraft III) or your own Counter-Strike Server. For pro users , it allows their pc to act as a SSH Server , web server  and a VNC server - which allows them to remote control their home computer. Lots of benefits

ISPs in Malaysia that offers Public IP with the ability to port forward  - TM Streamyx  , Jaring Wired/Wireless (jaring doesn't block any external port ,  Time Webbit Wireless Broadband and izzi
I hope you can conduct some tests later. Oh if you have MSN or any IM - I would love to get in touch with you - The reason is mainly to collect data and then write a report and publish it , so that it will be useful for other WiMax customers and other folks alike. I do have a couple of tools but you may have to download cygwin and run it - as most of it are meant for *nix platform. This to gather data on the modem and post more information about it

Its Linux for sure , port 80 in this case refers to apache/web service - that is meant for the web configuration and port 513 in this case is rlogin - remote login which is something like telnet and allows remote login , in other words it allows you to login remotely. But rlogin is rarely used these days as its not secure , I guess it will be used by p1 folks/support team to monitor or to perform upgrades or tweaking in the modem. This GIVES them full control over the modem/connection which is bad

I guess I'll have to stick with my trusty streamyx for now !
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True enough without port forwarding the speeds aren't as great. But what about services like BolehVPN? Could those help in terms of P2P?
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QUOTE(prasys @ Aug 9 2008, 08:31 PM)
For an average user , nothing. For p2pers , it means heaven and it allows other computers to establish a direct connection with their pc which dramatically increases the speed. For gamers , it enables them to host games such as DOTA (Warcraft III) or your own Counter-Strike Server. For pro users , it allows their pc to act as a SSH Server , web server  and a VNC server - which allows them to remote control their home computer. Lots of benefits

ISPs in Malaysia that offers Public IP with the ability to port forward  - TM Streamyx  , Jaring Wired/Wireless (jaring doesn't block any external port ,  Time Webbit Wireless Broadband and izzi
I hope you can conduct some tests later. Oh if you have MSN or any IM - I would love to get in touch with you - The reason is mainly to collect data and then write a report and publish it , so that it will be useful for other WiMax customers and other folks alike. I do have a couple of tools but you may have to download cygwin and run it - as most of it are meant for *nix platform. This to gather data on the modem and post more information about it

Its Linux for sure , port 80 in this case refers to apache/web service - that is meant for the web configuration and port 513 in this case is rlogin - remote login which is something like telnet and allows remote login , in other words it allows you to login remotely. But rlogin is rarely used these days as its not secure , I guess it will be used by p1 folks/support team to monitor or to perform upgrades or tweaking in the modem. This GIVES them full control over the modem/connection which is bad

I guess I'll have to stick with my trusty streamyx for now !
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Points noted. Yea, I also think it's necessary for the end users to be able to perform certain level of configuration in this case such as port forwarding or bridging in this case

As for the remote control of the modem, isn't that the same with our GSM/3G phone in the market where the operator can always Over The Air perform upgrade and configure our phone without us knowing about it? Even ASTRO can do upgrade to the decoder over the air ... I don't see it's bad, right?. As for this new WiMAX technology, unlike ADSL which is already an open market standard for a decade, i foresee alot of patches need to be updated into the modem, there should always be a certain level of control by the ISP to the modem to ensure the latest upgrade to the end users to support new features and functionalities.

What do you mean by bad when the ISP has full control over the modem/connection?

Based on WiMAX Forum standardization, bandwidth control is located at the CSN and not in the CPE.

I seriously don't think the ISP will have enough human resources to login to every modem to monitor what you have downloaded everyday. If you think ADSL ISP not monitoring your traffic, then you are wrong, TM has equipment that can inspect the packets for each users and dynamically throttle the bandwidth for each application based on user at the backend core routers. Policy control has been implemented by ISP all around the world to avoid users hogging bandwidth on certain application and to certain website, just to guarantee their revenue to avoid paying more for international bandwidth.

All ISP is the same in this world, business comes first ... customer satisfaction, who cares? Pay for leased line and you can enjoy ...
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True enough without port forwarding the speeds aren't as great. But what about services like BolehVPN? Could those help in terms of P2P?
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Points noted. Yea, I also think it's necessary for the end users to be able to perform certain level of configuration in this case such as port forwarding or bridging in this case

As for the remote control of the modem, isn't that the same with our GSM/3G phone in the market where the operator can always Over The Air perform upgrade and configure our phone without us knowing about it? Even ASTRO can do upgrade to the decoder over the air ... I don't see it's bad, right?. As for this new WiMAX technology, unlike ADSL which is already an open market standard for a decade, i foresee alot of patches need to be updated into the modem, there should always be a certain level of control by the ISP to the modem to ensure the latest upgrade to the end users to support new features and functionalities.

What do you mean by bad when the ISP has full control over the modem/connection?

Based on WiMAX Forum standardization, bandwidth control is located at the CSN and not in the CPE.

I seriously don't think the ISP will have enough human resources to login to every modem to monitor what you have downloaded everyday. If you think ADSL ISP not monitoring your traffic, then you are wrong, TM has equipment that can inspect the packets for each users and dynamically throttle the bandwidth for each application based on user at the backend core routers. Policy control has been implemented by ISP all around the world to avoid users hogging bandwidth on certain application and to certain website, just to guarantee their revenue to avoid paying more for international bandwidth.

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I don't think that sort of technology exists in Malaysia. As far as I know for smartphones and other newer generation phones , you'll have to flash the firmware to upgrade manually and I don't think upgrades are done over the air. On the other hand , they can only upgrade their baseband of the tower to improve performance and other things. ASTRO is another subject , its because everything is controlled by them - even the programs , etc. They do know that there will be no adult shows or adult entertainment , shows which are sensitive to some ethnic groups and other things. So its okay with me if they have full control , as for Internet , its wide and there are no boundaries. So you can do whatever you would like to do and there is nobody to stop you. When I say its bad when the ISP has full control is that they can upgrade your frimware without you knowing , set rules and even block certain sites without you knowing. They have access to the modem , by right (which I believe) consumers should have the access to the modem as well as we are paying for the service , its a different case if we are renting the modem.

As for WiMax standardization , that is a different story. Our ISPs don't have the bandwidth and they love to oversell their bandwidth to make more profit. Like you have said they are interested in generating revenue rather then to obtain customer satisfaction , so thats their primary concern. It would be appropriate to set rules in CPE as well. If we do set rules , there is no way that a customer could bypass it , unless its by VPN. So now for them , they'll be saving bandwidth as they don't have to worry about users hogging bandwdith for p2p traffic and other things. This way they can hold more users and make them satisfied by offering superb speeds !

ISPs do have equipments and gadgets to do the task. Just upload the firmware to the base station and when the CPE checks for upgrades. It automatically downloads new set of rules without customers acknowledgment. That is how it basically works. As for TM , you do have lots of ways (free) to bypass their restriction , including enabling Packet Encryption , changing ports , using different bit torrent clients.


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I don't think that sort of technology exists in Malaysia. As far as I know for smartphones and other newer generation phones , you'll have to flash the firmware to upgrade manually and I don't think upgrades are done over the air. On the other hand , they can only upgrade their baseband of the tower to improve performance and other things. ASTRO is another subject , its because everything is controlled by them - even the programs , etc. They do know that there will be no adult shows or adult entertainment , shows which are sensitive to some ethnic groups and other things. So its okay with me if they have full control , as for Internet , its wide and there are no boundaries. So you can do whatever you would like to do and there is nobody to stop you. When I say its bad when the ISP has full control is that they can upgrade your frimware without you knowing , set rules and even block certain sites without you knowing. They have access to the modem , by right (which I believe) consumers should have the access to the modem as well as we are paying for the service , its a different case if we are renting the modem.

As for WiMax standardization , that is a different story. Our ISPs don't have the bandwidth and they love to oversell their bandwidth to make more profit. Like you have said they are interested in generating revenue rather then to obtain customer satisfaction , so thats their primary concern. It would be appropriate to set rules in CPE as well. If we do set rules , there is no way that a customer could bypass it , unless its by VPN. So now for them , they'll be saving bandwidth as they don't have to worry about users hogging bandwdith for p2p traffic and other things. This way they can hold more users and make them satisfied by offering superb speeds !

ISPs do have equipments and gadgets to do the task. Just upload the firmware to the base station and when the CPE checks for upgrades. It automatically downloads new set of rules without customers acknowledgment. That is how it basically works. As for TM , you do have lots of ways (free) to bypass their restriction , including enabling Packet Encryption  , changing ports , using different bit torrent clients.
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This is one of the technology you will be seen very soon in Malaysia as this is standardized by the WiMAX Forum to become terminal management tool in WiMAX network. It's actually supported by some Nokia phone but it's up to the ISP whether to use it. It's widely used in South Korea mobile network.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMA_Device_Management

Setting rules and blocking site can be done from the CSN of WiMAX network (without you knowing it too)without going through configuring WiMAX CPE. At the moment, we don't really know whether the subscribers need to pay for the modem, so technically, the modem doesn't belong to the subscriber at all. Open market (meaning you can choose to buy from Lowyat like ADSL modem) for WiMAX CPE is still a long way to go, it's actually the same way how GSM phone made it way to the GSM market in Europe (users have limited access to the configuration of the phone as well as to their SIM card, also not open market at that time).

My point of view is that not everything can be compared to the ADSL world as there are more concern in term of the firmware issue and features of the CPE as compared to ADSL modem. As myself, I foresee more problems as it's a new technology. I prefer to ISP to actually upgrade it OTA then having me bringing the CPE back to them and swap for a new one from time to time. Is that what you want to do?

As for the bypass restriction, it will work, but the traffic shaping database is updated on a regular basis, so the type of clients you used will somehow be updated as well in a few months once the traffic being identified. From the equipment I know of, changing ports and encryption are no longer useful as well. What I'm trying to say is that, I see CPE doesn't really play a part in shaping traffic, so don't get paranoia.
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i heard my friend said, during trail and you spoil the modem, you have to paid RM1500!?
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i heard my friend said, during trail and you spoil the modem, you have to paid RM1500!?
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i heard my friend said, during trail and you spoil the modem, you have to paid RM1500!?
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How to define spoil? If the modem broken due to overheating ... that consider as we broke it???
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that why in the end i afraid to sign agreement for the trail. tongue.gif

does anyone can comfirm this?
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I doubt the price of the modem actually that much but I believe that is the amount you have to pay if anything happen to the modem. Even if you messed up a 3D glasses when you go watch Journey To The Earth 3D movie you need to pay rm200!
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For your kind information, our internal team has verified that your location is not within the existing service coverage area.  However, please be assured that our P1 WiMAX Ambassador will contact you when the service covers your location.



P1 appreciates your support and in the meantime, should you have further inquiries, please do not hesitate to contact our P1 Careline at 1-300-800-888 between 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. daily.



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Wimax is an ISP  Internet serice provider.

PAcketone is the company name.
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This is one of the technology you will be seen very soon in Malaysia as this is standardized by the WiMAX Forum to become terminal management tool in WiMAX network. It's actually supported by some Nokia phone but it's up to the ISP whether to use it. It's widely used in South Korea mobile network.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMA_Device_Management
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This is Malaysia. I don't think that our MSPs are into this sort of things as it would be a big issue , especially for coperate owners or those who are concerned about their privacy. Imagine if they implement such things it would be dangerous , I mean if they can upgrade your phone over the air. I am sure that they can steal your confidential information over the air as well. Things will be a lot more messier especially in the political arena !


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Setting rules and blocking site can be done from the CSN of WiMAX network (without you knowing it too)without going through configuring WiMAX CPE. At the moment, we don't really know whether the subscribers need to pay for the modem, so technically, the modem doesn't belong to the subscriber at all. Open market (meaning you can choose to buy from Lowyat like ADSL modem) for WiMAX CPE is still a long way to go, it's actually the same way how GSM phone made it way to the GSM market in Europe (users have limited access to the configuration of the phone as well as to their SIM card, also not open market at that time).


I know that its possible in the CSN of WiMax Network , but our folks are taking one step further to configure in CPE's. After all consumers get the device reconfigured , all they just have to do is plug and play and it just works. If you are an average consumer ,you wouldn't be worrying too much about it , all you are looking for is something that just works out of the box - without hassles. Cellular market on the other hand is different , its like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe 10-20 years ago , it may be possible but in this very 21st century , uh ha think again

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My point of view is that not everything can be compared to the ADSL world as there are more concern in term of the firmware issue and features of the CPE as compared to ADSL modem. As myself, I foresee more problems as it's a new technology. I prefer to ISP to actually upgrade it OTA then having me bringing the CPE back to them and swap for a new one from time to time. Is that what you want to do?



That is how you view things. As for me , I am not into Over the Air upgrades and other things. Personally , I would prefer if they just allowed the customer to configure his/her own equipment. But again its a subjective question and it can be questionable by anyone depending on how you view things.


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As for the bypass restriction, it will work, but the traffic shaping database is updated on a regular basis, so the type of clients you used will somehow be updated as well in a few months once the traffic being identified. From the equipment I know of, changing ports and encryption are no longer useful as well. What I'm trying to say is that, I see CPE doesn't really play a part in shaping traffic, so don't get paranoia.


How do you know that its not playing a part. Could you kindly explain more in details. IMO , the device runs linux and they have configured some set of QoS rules. I've studied it , and even some of my hypothesis have been proved
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This is Malaysia. I don't think that our MSPs are into this sort of things as it would be a big issue , especially for coperate owners or those who are concerned about their privacy. Imagine if they implement such things it would be dangerous , I mean if they can upgrade your phone over the air. I am sure that they can steal your confidential information over the air as well. Things will be a lot more messier especially in the political arena ! 
I know that its possible in the CSN of WiMax Network , but our folks are taking one step further to configure in CPE's. After all consumers get the device reconfigured , all they just have to do is plug and play and it just works. If you are an average consumer ,you wouldn't be worrying too much about it , all you are looking for is something that just works out of the box - without hassles. Cellular market on the other hand is different , its like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe 10-20 years ago , it may be possible but in this very 21st century , uh ha think again
That is how you view things. As for me , I am not into Over the Air upgrades and other things. Personally , I would prefer if they just allowed the customer to configure his/her own equipment. But again its a subjective question and it can be questionable by anyone depending on how you view things.
How do you know that its not playing a part. Could you kindly explain more in details. IMO , the device runs linux and they have configured some set of QoS rules. I've studied it , and even some of my hypothesis have been proved
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It's all based on the standardization, OMA-DM is a standard mobile device management tool, all the parameters available for management are well defined by the OMD-DM server vendor as well as the terminal vendor. The ISP is only the user of the server not the creator of it, can't really do whatever they want.

But don't get me wrong, I'm completely agree with you that users should be given freedom to configure their own IP, port forwarding, bridging, DDNS etc configurations. I only think it's necessary for ISP to upgrade the firmware of the CPE since I foresee this is a new technology and firmware upgrade of devices are inevitable. Oh yea, also you might want to know that there is a certificate that WiMAX user requires in the CPE for authentication purposes which according to the WiMAX forum, will need to be renewed every 5 years if I'm not mistaken.

Do regular users want to bear the firmware upgrade and certificate renewal process?

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Also WiMAX CPE needs to go through a set of certification testing in order to earn the WiMAX Forum Certified devices.

The QoS rules are executed in the ASN-GW and AAA not in the CPE. The 5 QoS defined in WiMAX is BE, UGS, ERTPS, RTPS and NRTPS.

The end to end WiMAX network element from CPE, BS, ASN-GW, AAA, HA etc are all designed and built based on a set of rules defined by a single organization. These are vendors are companies like Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, Alcatel-Lucent, Huawei, etc major telecommunication vendors in the world. They are the members of the WiMAX Forum and they all contribute to have the standard up and running.

What you have studied is another form of proprietary technology, it's not even a WiMAX standard.

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i heard my friend said, during trail and you spoil the modem, you have to paid RM1500!?
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Wow. But I can understand. However, what I'd like to see if the modem wasn't spoiled but broke down on its own then users get to bring the feedback to them.

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 10 2008, 12:50 PM)
How to define spoil? If the modem broken due to overheating ... that consider as we broke it???
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I've not heard of overheating modem before. Fried one, yes. Overheating, no. How can a modem overheat? Prolong usage without turning it off?

QUOTE(xpresside @ Aug 10 2008, 04:22 PM)
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Well... I'm waiting over here in Kelana Jaya. Too bad they started the trials on the outskirts. Come to think of it, I wonder why they did that.
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Wow. But I can understand. However, what I'd like to see if the modem wasn't spoiled but broke down on its own then users get to bring the feedback to them.
I've not heard of overheating modem before. Fried one, yes. Overheating, no. How can a modem overheat? Prolong usage without turning it off?
Well... I'm waiting over here in Kelana Jaya. Too bad they started the trials on the outskirts. Come to think of it, I wonder why they did that.
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It's all based on the standardization, OMA-DM is a standard mobile device management tool, all the parameters available for management are well defined by the OMD-DM server vendor as well as the terminal vendor. The ISP is only the user of the server not the creator of it, can't really do whatever they want.

But don't get me wrong, I'm completely agree with you that users should be given freedom to configure their own IP, port forwarding, bridging, DDNS etc configurations. I only think it's necessary for ISP to upgrade the firmware of the CPE since I foresee this is a new technology and firmware upgrade of devices are inevitable. Oh yea, also you might want to know that there is a certificate that WiMAX user requires in the CPE for authentication purposes which according to the WiMAX forum, will need to be renewed every 5 years if I'm not mistaken.

Do regular users want to bear the firmware upgrade and certificate renewal process?

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Also WiMAX CPE needs to go through a set of certification testing in order to earn the WiMAX Forum Certified devices.

The QoS rules are executed in the ASN-GW and AAA not in the CPE. The 5 QoS defined in WiMAX is BE, UGS, ERTPS, RTPS and NRTPS.

The end to end WiMAX network element from CPE, BS, ASN-GW, AAA, HA etc are all designed and built based on a set of rules defined by a single organization. These are vendors are companies like Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, Alcatel-Lucent, Huawei, etc major telecommunication vendors in the world. They are the members of the WiMAX Forum and they all contribute to have the standard up and running.

What you have studied is another form of proprietary technology, it's not even a WiMAX standard.
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I'll skip the first question as its basically pointless to state my stance. Its up to the users , some prefer and others don't.


I am sure WiMax Device goes through a set of certification testing by the WiMax forum. I've tried searching for White papers for our P1 CPE Device but I didn't get to find any of it. I've tried asking their customer support team but they don't even know what is a white paper. I'll have to take a look at the White paper for this device before judging it fully , otherwise it would be hard for most geeks and technical folks out there to judge this device and how it operates and works !
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I'll skip the first question as its basically pointless to state my stance. Its up to the users , some prefer and others don't.
I am sure WiMax Device goes through a set of certification testing by the WiMax forum. I've tried searching for White papers for our P1 CPE Device but I didn't get to find any of it. I've tried asking their customer support team but they don't even know what is a white paper. I'll have to take a look at the White paper for this device before judging it fully , otherwise it would be hard for most geeks and technical folks out there to judge this device and how it operates and works !
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White Paper only available if a vendor trying to push for new product or new technology, and to try to educate the users on a technology.

Where got people called customer care for white paper of CPE? lol ...

Try Wimax Forum site or Google and search for R1 Interface Standardization or WiMAX Plugfest event. R1 is the standard open interface in between CPE and the Basestation.
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There's an news article today on InTech The Star about P1 and it's wimax service. Nothing new though. Just echoing what we already know. It is confirmed to launch on 19th August and they will hold an event on that day.

As for pricing and speeds package, we have to wait until 19th August to know that.

Just one thing to ask, when they said competitive pricing package, does it mean better (as in cheaper) or same rate?
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There's an news article today on InTech The Star about P1 and it's wimax service. Nothing new though. Just echoing what we already know. It is confirmed to launch on 19th August and they will hold an event on that day.

As for pricing and speeds package, we have to wait until  19th August to know that.

Just one thing to ask, when they said competitive pricing package, does it mean better (as in cheaper) or same rate?
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Wow. But I can understand. However, what I'd like to see if the modem wasn't spoiled but broke down on its own then users get to bring the feedback to them.
I've not heard of overheating modem before. Fried one, yes. Overheating, no. How can a modem overheat? Prolong usage without turning it off?
Well... I'm waiting over here in Kelana Jaya. Too bad they started the trials on the outskirts. Come to think of it, I wonder why they did that.
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As for pricing and speeds package, we have to wait until  19th August to know that.

Just one thing to ask, when they said competitive pricing package, does it mean better (as in cheaper) or same rate?
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QUOTE(pokokpals @ Aug 12 2008, 06:48 PM)
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LOL! Sorry if you felt it if you're in Subang. tongue.gif

But what I wanted to say was, they started in places like Setapak. KLCC also got but...I don't understand why Setapak and not more in Subang, Kelana Jaya, TTDI - higher density areas.

Unless they found too many highrise condos around here. ROFL!
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But what I wanted to say was, they started in places like Setapak. KLCC also got but...I don't understand why Setapak and not more in Subang, Kelana Jaya, TTDI - higher density areas.

Unless they found too many highrise condos around here. ROFL!
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maybe they pick Setapak, easy & cheaper to deploy compare to Subang. i think renting tower/roof of tall building does not come cheap.

how many ppl will switch from Streamyx to P1 W1MAX. i'm very i not one of them. will only use P1 W1MAX as backup (surfing,streaming content,download), gaming still trust my wired(Streamyx).

look at the history, many broadband provider choose to deploy broadband in "Subang, Kelana Jaya, TTDI, PJ, BU" Remember Webbit, Jaring Wireless and ... m.i.a. ??

think of it, could be this area prune to dead spot ?? or else highly polluted with RF interference. maybe EE or related field could explain smile.gif
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hey, setapak is dense man lolz.. last time i took lrt from asiajaya, when i arrived at wangsa maju lrt station, 90% of the ppl get down from the lrt haha.
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just got my wimax half an hour ago... my speed test

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How do you get to be a trial user ? I signed up last week but no replies from them.
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How do you get to be a trial user ? I signed up last week but no replies from them.
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I believe they only called succesful applicant. Don't worry though. Less than a week away till the commercial launch. It won't make a big difference since the trial is only until 19th august though ( I think so )
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White Paper only available if a vendor trying to push for new product or new technology, and to try to educate the users on a technology.

Where got people called customer care for white paper of CPE? lol ...

Try Wimax Forum site or Google and search for R1 Interface Standardization or WiMAX Plugfest event. R1 is the standard open interface in between CPE and the Basestation.
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IMO , i do know whats white paper all about

Anyway , it may sound funny but I've managed to get white papers from JARING on their SOMA Technology. Of course it was a tedious work , but thank god one of their technicians who called me up later knows what is exactly that I'm talking about. I've assumed the same for this case as well , and bam i got a slap in my face instead. It may sound absurd but you must understand that P1 doesn't disclose much more needed information on their CPE


This is bit interesting , after googling and looking up on the Web , it seems that the IEEE 802.16e Media Access Control (MAC) protocol in the R1 Interface. I admit it wasn't thought in the text books. It takes time to google up and learn this new techology
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I believe they only called succesful applicant. Don't worry though. Less than a week away till the commercial launch. It won't make a big difference since the trial is only until 19th august though ( I think so )
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well i dun think so.
They give me 1month trial period on their product... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(prasys @ Aug 13 2008, 03:55 PM)
IMO , i do know whats white paper all about

Anyway , it may sound funny but I've managed to get white papers from JARING on their SOMA Technology. Of course it was a tedious work , but thank god one of their technicians who called me up later knows what is exactly that I'm talking about. I've assumed the same for this case as well , and bam i got a slap in my face instead. It may sound absurd but you must understand that P1 doesn't disclose much more needed information on their CPE
This is bit interesting , after googling and looking up on the Web , it seems that the IEEE 802.16e Media Access Control (MAC) protocol in the R1 Interface. I admit it wasn't thought in the text books. It takes time to google up and learn this new techology
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Then perhaps you should call them to ask for their WiMAX white paper not the CPE white paper. Then maybe they will have their expert to explain to you on WiMAX.

laugh.gif Anyone calls TMnet to ask about their ZTE modem white paper?

Look at the P1 CPE, it looks like a black box ... laugh.gif that's what black box all about ... "When the exact operations of a given system aren't known outside the system it is referred to as a black box" .. you don't know what the hell is in it ... lol ...
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just got email confirmation from them few days ago...no coverage for my area sad.gif

im in setapak btw...mybe there still some blind spot tongue.gif


Added on August 14, 2008, 12:20 amjust got email confirmation from them few days ago...no coverage for my area sad.gif

im in setapak btw...mybe there still some blind spot tongue.gif

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i registered for trial user... but i did not reply me yet. ...

official launch when ?
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Maxis is far better than Streamyx, lol. Just that the speeds are inconsistent .. but they don't disconnect as much as Screamyx does. =.=

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how big is the black box? need power supply for using USB?
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How do you get to be a trial user ? I signed up last week but no replies from them.
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just got email confirmation from them few days ago...no coverage for my area sad.gif

im in setapak btw...mybe there still some blind spot tongue.gif
Which part of Setapak are you located at ?
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 12 2008, 07:47 PM)
Well, it's exactly 7-days wait time before the official launch. So I say... bring on the PRICES! flex.gif
LOL! Sorry if you felt it if you're in Subang. tongue.gif

But what I wanted to say was, they started in places like Setapak. KLCC also got but...I don't understand why Setapak and not more in Subang, Kelana Jaya, TTDI - higher density areas.

Unless they found too many highrise condos around here. ROFL!
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Setapak area is covered. At least Wangsa Maju section 1/2 is.
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Anyone know whether PJS9 in SUnway is covered?

it seems it only covered Dataran Sunway but not the housing area near it.
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this is my Screamyx 512kb package

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wow high latency arrghh for Wimax

this is my Screamyx 512kb package

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how much is the wimax modem?
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May the experts out there enlighten us the backbone bandwidth which P1 WiMax is running on and also links to which international carrriers / links, is it also sharing with the TMnet backbone / international links (gateways) to outside of Malaysia ?

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This i want to know too, so far they stated they are using their very own P1 backbone which i'm not too convinced.
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This i want to know too, so far they stated they are using their very own P1 backbone which i'm not too convinced.
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Yea, no matter what speed they offer from their exchanges to the consumers, the clients, the main concern will be their bankbone links (bandwidth) as well as hook up to which international gateways / carriers in order to go outside of Malaysia. Unless there are developments on new / upgrade international carriers to other countries, else every ISPs here also using the same gateways, the bandwidth may not suffice to the growing bandwidth usage, that is another reasons they impose bandwidth throttle.. etc.. with the so-called Fair Usage Policy. sweat.gif

Obviously, the business corporations will be given higher priority and using different backbone channels as compared to general public consumers.

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How about taman sri rampai , setapak ?
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QUOTE(Silfrijin @ Aug 16 2008, 05:30 PM)
May the experts out there enlighten us the backbone bandwidth which P1 WiMax is running on and also links to which international carrriers / links, is it also sharing with the TMnet backbone / international links (gateways) to outside of Malaysia ?

Thanks.
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Only P1 internal staff will know the backbone bandwidth, I don't think they will publish it on the website cause it's non of the user concern. As an ISP, the backbone bandwidth can always be upgraded when neccessary and most will be running on fiber.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Malaysia only has only one international gateway by TM. All overseas traffic will pass by there.

For most users who are using Streamyx, please bear in mind that just because your connection is slow, that does not mean TMnet backbone is slow!
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Only P1 internal staff will know the backbone bandwidth, I don't think they will publish it on the website cause it's non of the user concern. As an ISP, the backbone bandwidth can always be upgraded when neccessary and most will be running on fiber. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, Malaysia only has only one international gateway by TM. All overseas traffic will pass by there.

For most users who are using Streamyx, please bear in mind that just because your connection is slow, that does not mean TMnet backbone is slow!
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JARING has their own gateway as well , just FYI !

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Ok, Let say TM got 100Gbps to US backbone.

they will rent / let 10Gbps to Maxis, 10Gbps to Celcom, 10Gbps to PenangFon and so on..

The remaining will be data centre and lastly streamyx user.

Y Jaring is faster eventhough they are using TM backbone as well. Bcoz did not overselling their US bandwidth which rent from TM.
Well, Any extra bandwidth will give to streamyx user. so we got down time, msn can not sign in, Youtube slow and etc.
(correct me if wrong)
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screamyx gave me 406kb/s download and 194kb/s upload. zzz . anyway w1max is wireless so its not good for gaming? because of what? will get dc frequently? but compare to screamyx and w1max , will u choose sceamyx to play games or w1max..? wink.gif
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I'm using Streamyx for 6 years, my connection is always good, speed test always shows the bandwidth that i'm supposed to get. P2P is hard to just since it has been throttled. Ping time reasonable. So it's really depends on the location, maybe my location is not congested with alot of users, that's why.

That's why I don't think it has anything to do with TM backbone/backhaul capability.

If you are willing to pay TM for leased line, they can guarantee your QoS as much as you want it.

So, even if P1 W1MAX is riding on Fibercom, Fiberail, etc to TM gateway ... I don't see an issue ... since the backhaul is TM leased line but not RM88 Streamyx 1 Mbps package.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 17 2008, 01:03 AM)
Ok, Let say TM got 100Gbps to US backbone.

they will rent / let  10Gbps to Maxis, 10Gbps to Celcom, 10Gbps to PenangFon and so on..

The remaining will be data centre and lastly streamyx user.

Y Jaring is faster eventhough they are using TM backbone as well. Bcoz did not overselling their US bandwidth which rent from TM.
Well, Any extra bandwidth will give to streamyx user. so we got down time, msn can not sign in, Youtube slow and etc.
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Wrong , your concept is wrong. TM has a huge International link. Try comparing TM's Lease Line to your Streamyx. You'll feel the difference. The problem with residential package is that TM just applies QoS rules aka fair play , since we have been allocated some resources , and in order to manage it , TM just has to throttle connection , etc to ensure everyone gets to enjoy the broadband. For lease line , the experience is totally different - its you and the Internet and there is no middle man. No funny QoS rules , that speed belongs to you and there is no way TM can throttle.
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screamyx gave me 406kb/s download and 194kb/s upload. zzz . anyway w1max is wireless so its not good for gaming? because of what? will get dc frequently? but compare to screamyx and w1max , will u choose sceamyx to play games or w1max..?  wink.gif
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Whats wrong with 406kbps and 194kbps. You're on the 512Kbps package and it seems fine to me. 75% of the advertised speed , so whats the big fuzz ?
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I visited a booth today. I was informed that P1 will officially launch their WiMax tomorrow, by their CEO with press releases and introduction on their packages. Hmm...

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Only P1 internal staff will know the backbone bandwidth, I don't think they will publish it on the website cause it's non of the user concern. As an ISP, the backbone bandwidth can always be upgraded when neccessary and most will be running on fiber. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, Malaysia only has only one international gateway by TM. All overseas traffic will pass by there.

For most users who are using Streamyx, please bear in mind that just because your connection is slow, that does not mean TMnet backbone is slow!
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Yea, P1 internal staff, especially those work for WiMax network infrastructure teams. brows.gif
Malaysia has few international gateways. Search around on the Networks and Broadband, there are threads on this information, the international links such as ACPN2 and few others. There is one soon to be completed by year end or so, from here to US if not mistaken.

QUOTE(Angelodeath @ Aug 17 2008, 01:07 AM)
screamyx gave me 406kb/s download and 194kb/s upload. zzz . anyway w1max is wireless so its not good for gaming? because of what? will get dc frequently? but compare to screamyx and w1max , will u choose sceamyx to play games or w1max..?  wink.gif
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Well, that is quite OK already for that speed rate. WiMax is still a wireless transmission mode of communication, generally, wireless has higher network latency compared to cable. We will see how WiMax will fare in terms of this. Advertised speed rating does not mean anything if the latency is high. We will see how they actually implement their infrastructure to optimize the radio transmissions and also how to mitigate the high latency if it is high.

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 17 2008, 06:37 AM)
I'm using Streamyx for 6 years, my connection is always good, speed test always shows the bandwidth that i'm supposed to get. P2P is hard to just since it has been throttled. Ping time reasonable. So it's really depends on the location, maybe my location is not congested with alot of users, that's why.

That's why I don't think it has anything to do with TM backbone/backhaul capability.

If you are willing to pay TM for leased line, they can guarantee your QoS as much as you want it.

So, even if P1 W1MAX is riding on Fibercom, Fiberail, etc to TM gateway ... I don't see an issue ... since the backhaul is TM leased line but not RM88 Streamyx 1 Mbps package.
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So far, my Streamyx is fairly OK, able to achieve more or less the speed I subscribe, exception to some of the time where they have isssues. Some of the users experience bad services are probably due to alot of factors, congestion on their areas... etc. I guess we cannot really compare the general consumer broadband with the corporate / enterprise services like leased line, different class of services. I am also curious about how their transmission towers interlink to their backbones, how much concurrent connections they are able to handle and etc. Maybe WiMax forum / whitepapers can shed lights on this. Well, Intel is pushing this technology by investing RM50 mil on P1.

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Yup! In term of latency, I don't think any wireless broadband can fight with wired broadband. But bear in mind that, not all application services on internet need to low latency (120ms considered fine).

What wireless broadband can offer is more than what wired broadband, similar to fixed line phone and mobile phone, which one is more popular to date?


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speed start at 400kbps (RM49 for 24 months contract)
maximum speed is 2.4mbps (RM269 for no contract)

modem fee is RM999...
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speed start at 400kbps (RM49 for 24 months contract)
maximum speed is 2.4mbps (RM269 for no contract)

modem fee is RM999...
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http://www.p1.com.my/Wimax/aspx/packages_Ref.aspx

the links still not published yet on p1 website..
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RM999...i cant pay for that =/

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so disappointed...RM999 for modem...RM100 for register fee...RM50 activation fee!!!

not attractive monthly charge...spend a RM1300+- for a 1.2mbps wireless broadband???? Crazy!!!

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http://www.p1.com.my/Wimax/aspx/packages_Ref.aspx

the links still not published yet on p1 website..
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so disappointed...RM999 for modem...RM100 for register fee...RM50 activation fee!!!

not attractive monthly charge...spend a RM1300+- for a 1.2mbps wireless broadband???? Crazy!!!
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How you know the pakage and the hidden or sub fee d, can show me the pakage available. hope not too expensive.
Hope the modem not RM999, if so, hope them rent us RM10 per month batter.

People told me it will lunch at 19 August 2008, but where the road show that i can go?

Sorry for interupt, i just need the information.

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RM999 upfront or can we split it into monthly basis?
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I managed to get the info below before that page was brought down, perhaps, they going to put up an updated soon with T&C perhaps.

Initial Upfront Fees - RM999 (modem) + RM100 (registration) = RM1099
Installation Fee - RM75 (optional)
1st Bill - RM10 (stamp duty) + RM50 (activation) + RMxxx (package subsrcibed)

Total - (RM1099 + RM10 + RM50) + RMxxx = RM1159 + RMxxx

No news of waiving of installation, stamp duty, registration, activation fees for early birds?
Upfront most likely will be one time charge paid initially.

Packages are 400kbps, 700kbps, 1.2Mbps, 2.3Mbps (if not wrong), with the condition of contractual and non contractual (more expensive).

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somehow I'm able to print screen the page before it is taken down.

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Nice job. Usefull information there
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It's interesting when you double your speed from 1mbps to 2mbps using streamyx you have to pay less than double but when you double your speed for p1w1max you have to pay more than double! Nice job P1. I guess this is not for me...yet. Need to see how it goes after the launch.
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seem P1 already taken this web page down...they promised great rate for the package...but the rate according that site aren't promising at all blink.gif

RM999 for the modem? how long it last?? it isn't compact enough...seem it size half of a laptop...
it isn't convenient for some of the user who travel frequently... blush.gif

register fee and activation fee??? i dunno why they going to charge those fees since they are new to the market...they thought they are streamyx is it blush.gif

im so disappointed~ i was looking forward swap my streamyx for this...i was expecting slightly higher charge than TM...but now cry.gif
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yea... 999 for a fraking modem?? i can easily buy a Tmobile wireless modem and use celcom broadband for a lot less... COMPETITIVE MY FAT ARSE.... pay so much for and unproven technology i might as well stick my pee pee into pool full of piranha ... Looks like my one and only hope to be able to get a decent broadband service have been dash... Malaysian are destined to use sub par broadband.... IDIOTS...
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RM999-1500 for modem, over-price.

what modem warranty & repair ?

better wait for RM500 sub range for wimax modem. by selling modem, the company just earn upfront. just like very 1st 3G modem.

sad need to wait 2 year down the road, for a affordable wimax modem.

package price are attractive "1.2Mbps only"

no contract, is there a handling fees like maxis or any hidden termination fees ???

QUOTE(z3171600 @ Aug 18 2008, 01:50 PM)
It's interesting when you double your speed from 1mbps to 2mbps using streamyx you have to pay less than double but when you double your speed for p1w1max you have to pay more than double! Nice job P1. I guess this is not for me...yet. Need to see how it goes after the launch.
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cell tower are very limited bandwidth/expensive to invest, compare to out DSLAM exchange (fiber expandable bandwidth). <= hope some1 better knowledge clear this up

anytime TMnet can bump up the speed speed on exchange.

let's do the maths, 1 cell tower = 100Mbps*(assume only)
1.2Mbps = 83 user
2.4Mbps = 41 user

2.4Mbps
RM5256(24m)
RM999
=RM6255
*41
=RM256455

1.2Mbps
RM2136(24m)
RM999
=RM3135
*83
=RM260205

obvious right ?
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QUOTE(jianwei87 @ Aug 18 2008, 03:08 PM)
the 1.2mbps speed is true speed?
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No, that is the advertised speed only, with the overheads there and here, as stated by them as Best Effort only, so you may only get somewhere around 75% or above on the advertised speed, if you are lucky, you may get almost near 1.2 or even short bursts of 1.2 + +.

I hope P1 will reconsider their packages initial investment, waive or give special introductory price, waive all the registrations... etc for limited time to capture potential customers. By looking at the info earlier, I will definitely think twice before do anything. Perhaps subscribe to trial first if the availability is there on my area.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 16 2008, 09:34 AM)
wow high latency arrghh for Wimax

this is my Screamyx 512kb package

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Anyways, anyone know where is the launch event will be hold tomorrow?
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saw their new website. but no update abt the package
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Anyways, anyone know where is the launch event will be hold tomorrow?
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Is the launching going to be tomorrow (Aug 19)? Any idea where is the venue?
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I heard it wil be in Madarin Oriental... in the afternoon tomorrow.
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I think tomorrow launch is a bluff.....
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I heard it wil be in Madarin Oriental... in the afternoon tomorrow.
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Anyone else could confirm this? I am thinking to drop by check out the event. Probably even sign up for it if the packages is right brows.gif

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Just now ask my father ~
he say is in Madarin Oriental ~
Btw my father work in there ~

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somehow they updated again their website..

now free modem until 30august..and only 2 packages..

1.2mbps and 2.4mbps with 12months or 24months contract..
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wow free modem until 30 August...but i'm stay at JB...
Hope they are also giving free modem during promotion when launch at JB and Penang etc...
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QUOTE(xcess @ Aug 18 2008, 09:35 PM)
somehow they updated again their website..

now free modem until 30august..and only 2 packages..

1.2mbps and 2.4mbps with 12months or 24months contract..
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freaking expensive package
new in the market

it's a bit turn off for some people
with the contract

1.2Mbps for 99/89
i think it's expensive
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QUOTE(megat_johan @ Aug 18 2008, 09:49 PM)
freaking expensive package
new in the market

it's a bit turn off for some people
with the contract

1.2Mbps for 99/89
i think it's expensive
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expensive never mind ~
the most important is we pay wat we get ~

like screamyx we pay we cannot get somemore need find VPN / Webui to get the speed ~

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Which website?
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P1 website..., i think they now keeps updating their website for tomorrow launch..,
manage to get the packages info before they pull out the page back..


http://www.p1.com.my/images/mainpage/wimax...rsonal_plan.png

http://www.p1.com.my/Wimax/aspx/packages_ref.aspx

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Seems like the price for 2400 been revised down. Hopefully hey will revise it once again for tomorrow launch? Haha.
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My area dont have ~
i will not get the packages now ~

Izzit is a lesson ~ wait few month see how first ~
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QUOTE(Only_Human @ Aug 18 2008, 10:08 PM)
My area dont have ~
i will not get the packages now ~

Izzit is a lesson ~ wait few month see how first ~
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Erm if I wait few months, will i get free modem?
The modem too expensive (RM999), if you spoil modem you will be fine RM1, 500.00??
Besides, the line don't know stable or not due to 1 or 2 years contact.
After 1 month the service something going gone.... we still on the contract..

Apply or not, need your opinion....

I so nerves

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P1 website..., i think they now keeps updating their website for tomorrow launch..,
manage to get the packages info before they pull out the page back..
http://www.p1.com.my/images/mainpage/wimax...rsonal_plan.png

http://www.p1.com.my/Wimax/aspx/packages_ref.aspx
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where 400 & 700 package ??

the site down again ?

installation old RM75 & new RM80 hmm.gif

still waiting for t&c ...

what the monthly bandwidth ? what the caps speed for over bandwidth ?
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QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Aug 18 2008, 10:53 PM)
where 400 & 700 package ??

the site down again ?

installation old RM75 & new RM80 hmm.gif

still waiting for t&c ...

what the monthly bandwidth ? what the caps speed for over bandwidth ?
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1.2 for 99... which is not bad actually if it is the ave speed... so anything lower than that will be cheaper...

with streamyx 1.0... i dont even get like 75% of the speed...
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I hate vmad.gif those vendor always ask us to sign contract-contract !

If the service is good enough cool2.gif , why need to sign contract for 12months or 24months sad.gif !

Hopefully there is no contract period while sign-up for any broadband plan in future rolleyes.gif

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Eh... Wimax 1.2Mbps - RM99 (12months contracts) ; RM89(24months)

But, Wimax 2.4Mbps is over price la.....
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vote for no contract service!!

YaY!!!
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It's launching today guys. Its in the star but not sure where is the road show..Will try to go KLCC to see if they are there...
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Anyone already goes to the launch?
Any latest pakages?
Due to, websites they hide the page again.
So, it should have latest pakages.
Anyone who already drop a visit to the launch, if posible update us the status and the latest pricing and pakage....
Hope not expensive....
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P1 WiMax Launch. You can watch the event live right now.
Go here - you have to register and install the software first - http://www.yoonic.tv/
After that, go to channel 1506


Added on August 19, 2008, 1:07 pmSeems like they're doing rehearsal right now.

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The modem is way overpriced for a student. hope they come up with cheaper alternatives.
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feedback guys!!! P1 any good seriously???

bt throttle or not?

site load fast or slow?

download file or upload file stable or not?

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Get it from P1 website


Kuala Lumpur – 19 August 2008 †Packet One Networks (Malaysia) Sdn. Bhd. (P1),
the first Malaysian WiMAX converged telco and subsidiary of Green Packet
Berhad, today officially opened its doors for Malaysians to subscribe to its WiMAX
services, branded as P1 W1MAX.
Yang Berhormat Dato’ Shaziman Abu Mansor, Minister of Energy, Water and
Communications was there to officiate the historic accomplishment at the grand
launch of P1 W1MAX services.
P1’s CEO Michael Lai said, “We are indeed proud of the fact that we have put
Malaysia on the world map of WiMAX. Today, not only is P1 the first WiMAX
operator in Malaysia to open for subscriptions, but we are also one of the first in
the world to offer WiMAX service commercially. We believe that WiMAX will
change the Malaysian broadband landscape and the way we live, learn, work and
play, and lay the foundation towards achieving Malaysia’s National Broadband
Plan and MyICMS 886 objectives because of the very strong proposition of the
WiMAX ecoâ€system known as the DNA†Device, Network and Applications are, all
in place.â€
Lai also thanked the Malaysian government for having the foresight on the
potential of WiMAX as a catalyst for the nation’s development, and being one of
the first countries in the world to issue the WiMAX license as early as March 2007.
P1 today introduced two promotional packages to meet consumer and business
needs. The promotion runs from 20 August to 30 September 2008. They are:
Packages Speeds
Monthly Charges
12 months contract 24 months contract
P1 W1MAX 1200 Up to 1.2Mbps RM99 RM89
P1 W1MAX 2400 Up to 2.4 Mbps RM229 RM199
P1 W1MAX broadband is now available immediately in the following areas: KLCC,
Golden Triangle, Pekeliling, Setapak, Gombak, Seri Rampai, Sentul, Pudu, selected
areas in Subang Jaya, USJ 1, USJ 7 and Subang Hiâ€Tech area. P1’s deployment is
supported by Intel, which recently invested RM50 million (approx. US$15m) in
P1’s parent company, Green Packet Berhad.
In addition, by the end of 2008, P1 targets to extend its WiMAX broadband
coverage to Petaling Jaya, Damansara, Klang and Port Klang and others within the
Klang Valley; Johor Bahru; Kedah; Perak; Negeri Sembilan; Melaka and all major
towns and cities in the West Coast of Peninsula Malaysia.
P1 made another historical milestone today having received the honorable status
in the Malaysia Book of Records on two counts,
1. The First WiMAX Telco
2. The First 10 WiMAX subscribers
Ryaz Patel, Country Manager, Sales and Marketing, Intel Malaysia who attended
P1’s grand launch today said, “This is a significant milestone in the growth of
WiMAX globally. “IDC Malaysia indicated that notebook sales in Malaysia had
continued to outpace desktops during 2008, with more than 1.3 million1 units
sold – representing nearly 60 percent of the total available market in
Malaysia. Intel believes the increasing availability of highâ€speed wireless
broadband, such as P1’s 802.16e WiMAX network, will accelerate this trend
towards adoption of mobile computing in Malaysia and beyond.â€
“The value proposition of 802.16e WiMAX is the Internet as it was meant to be:
open, fast and mobile,†Patel continued. “2008 is a milestone year for WiMAX,
with more than 300 trials and commercial deployments underway worldwide.
Intel will continue to support the growth of the WiMAX ecosystem in Asia,†said
Patel.
For more information about P1 W1MAX, please contact our customer careline at
1300 800 888 or log on to www.p1w1max.com.
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aiks, why the price different ? i read in the star newspaper today bout P1's services. RM 60 for some low speeds and RM 100 for 2.4mbit wor. wait i go check.
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no best effort or some other stupic T&C?

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Wat is the ping reply ms to local website? the package 1200 and 2400 say it is suitable for online gaming but need some proof for the ping
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they never specify which type of online gaming, dun think FPS is suitable for wireless
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Was invited for the P1 Wimax official launch today. Superb show! With Hannah Tan as the MC. biggrin.gif

As for the prices, their brochures seem to have displayed the non-promotion deal as on their website. In the brochure, the packages state:

P1 W1MAX Personal

Speed - No contract rate - 12 months rate - 24 months rate

400kbps - 69 - 59 - 49
700 kbps - 89 - 79 - 69
1.2Mbps - 109 - 99 - 89
2.4Mbps - 269 - 239 - 209

P1 W1MAX Business

Speed - No contract rate - 12 months rate - 24 months rate

400kbps - 79 - 69 - 59
700 kbps - 109 - 99 - 89
1.2Mbps - 169 - 159 - 149
2.4Mbps - 369 - 339 - 309

Charges:
Modem fee - 999 (upfront)
Registration fee - 100 (upfront)
Activation - 50 (1st bill)
Stamp duty - 10 (1st bill)

Installation fee - 80 (Optional)
Nationwide Access fee - 10 per month (optional)

Currently, on the P1 website from 20-30 September (think they made a typo and said August) they are giving the modem FREE - worth RM999! So if I wanted to register, I'd do it before August 30th otherwise the modem fee is going to setback a ton of people. For me who's in an area that's not supported, it sucks. cry.gif

Just checked their website and it seems they've updated it with the full price list now. From what I can see, it'll be more beneficial to have the Business Plan as the discount there is more. But still...no coverage in my area - nearest is SS7. cry.gif
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puchong not even in the list for future devolopement....


Added on August 19, 2008, 10:00 pm
QUOTE(tcchuin @ Aug 19 2008, 07:56 PM)
no best effort or some other stupic T&C?
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Base on best effort basis.

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i got a question here...
if the modem is spoiled after 1 year edy,so i have to purchase another modem that worth rm999?
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I will be waiting for at least 2 yrs, to see if they oversubscribe like TM does. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Aug 20 2008, 12:48 AM)
I will be waiting for at least 2 yrs, to see if they oversubscribe like TM does. tongue.gif
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P1 W1Max wimax speed test

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the speed test result of P1 wimax at PC Fair 2008 (II).



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omg. no coverage in my area.... too bad.....

so Wimax P1 > Izzi ?

see izzi got any announcement or not.
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I will be waiting for at least 2 yrs, to see if they oversubscribe like TM does. tongue.gif
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You can be sure 100%, oversubscription is going to happen. Standard ISP practice it to oversell their bandwidth. They work with knowledge not all subscriber will utlize 100% of the bandwidth all the time. What i am looking at is for them not to oversell their bandwidth like TM does. TM seriously oversell their bandwidth for general consumers to a point of it being ridiculous!
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SS17 is just across my place(ss19) but not included in coverage area...wtf...
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Errmm.. What is the extra column of RM10.00 charges for Nationwide access?

Did anyone bring up the question to P1 personell whether or not they blocked or limited bandwith for P2P/Torrent?




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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6378&sec=nation

good news or bad news ?
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QUOTE(hackinz @ Aug 20 2008, 10:44 AM)
Errmm.. What is the extra column of RM10.00 charges for Nationwide access?

Did anyone bring up the question to P1 personell whether or not  they blocked or limited bandwith for P2P/Torrent?
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Let say you wish to carry your notebook or whatever with WiMax modem to other areas, then RM10 for that nationwide access, anywhere where there is WiMax coverage. Soon, we can see notebooks with WiMax chipset integrated.

I did bring up to them, apparently, it was a booth in front of LowYat, I asked them whether they are the "dealer", was a Yes. To your questions, they happily said NO block, NO limit. We need to re-look into their T&C on these.

QUOTE(Tokiya @ Aug 20 2008, 10:51 AM)

Both... good news to consumers? Bad news to operators? sweat.gif

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Well, I am using P1 Hotspot at the moment.

All the international link is not connected to TM backbone.....


Tracing route to www.yahoo.com [209.131.36.158]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms 10.0.48.1
2 110 ms 24 ms 4 ms 122.255.101.49
3 7 ms 9 ms 13 ms 122.255.98.13
4 10 ms 20 ms 18 ms 10.0.0.13
5 8 ms 12 ms 20 ms 122.255.101.18
6 9 ms 8 ms 27 ms 122.255.99.17
7 783 ms 7 ms 14 ms 122.255.98.42
8 * 1129 ms 11 ms 122.255.98.34
9 114 ms 16 ms 16 ms 122.255.98.38
10 * * 11 ms fe3 [63.218.167.69]
11 203 ms 236 ms 209 ms 63-218-179-34.pccwglobal.net [63.218.179.34]
12 208 ms 203 ms 209 ms ae0-p171.msr2.sp1.yahoo.com [216.115.107.83]
13 738 ms 211 ms 207 ms te-9-1.bas-a1.sp1.yahoo.com [209.131.32.23]
14 217 ms 212 ms 216 ms f1.www.vip.sp1.yahoo.com [209.131.36.158]

C:\Users\nazha-lap>tracert www.singtel.com.sg

Tracing route to www.singtel.com.sg [203.208.248.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 11 ms 5 ms 10.0.48.1
2 10 ms 8 ms 4 ms 122.255.101.49
3 * 7 ms 13 ms 122.255.98.13
4 14 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.0.0.13
5 30 ms * * 122.255.101.18
6 11 ms 8 ms 10 ms 122.255.99.17
7 9 ms 6 ms 13 ms 122.255.98.42
8 126 ms 14 ms 102 ms 122.255.98.34
9 26 ms 35 ms 131 ms 124.158.230.9
10 43 ms 19 ms 95 ms gi-0-3.cr-gw-2-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.210.130]
11 * 20 ms 23 ms gi-0-3.cr-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.211.129]
12 20 ms 18 ms 34 ms pos-2-0.br-gw-1-sin-pip.sg.globaltransit.net [61
.11.210.2]
13 * * 30 ms gi [124.158.224.98]
14 43 ms 18 ms 167 ms 203.208.143.141
15 1277 ms * 21 ms ge-4-0-1-0.sngtp-cr1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.182
.1]
16 * 18 ms 71 ms 202.160.250.230
17 * 1218 ms 40 ms 203.208.232.38
18 25 ms 26 ms 18 ms 203.208.232.53
19 477 ms 24 ms 101 ms 203.208.248.10

Tracing route to www.ovh.co.uk [87.98.255.34]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 50 ms 6 ms 11 ms 10.0.48.1
2 7 ms 9 ms 5 ms 122.255.101.49
3 63 ms * * 122.255.98.13
4 * 279 ms 17 ms 10.0.0.13
5 10 ms 9 ms 23 ms 122.255.101.18
6 22 ms 75 ms 17 ms 122.255.99.17
7 231 ms 41 ms 231 ms 122.255.98.42
8 * 16 ms 24 ms 122.255.98.34
9 * 16 ms 136 ms 124.158.230.9
10 * 922 ms * gi-0-2.pp-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.211.184]
11 * * 38 ms 216.6.121.45
12 218 ms 162 ms 100 ms if-6-6.core3.HK2-HongKong.teleglobe.net [116.0.8
2.65]
13 175 ms 204 ms 100 ms if-11-0-0-731.core1.S9R-Singapore.teleglobe.net
[116.0.82.22]
14 * 111 ms 184 ms if-3-0-0.core1.CFO-Chennai.Teleglobe.net [209.58
.82.62]
15 167 ms 148 ms 213 ms if-15-0-0.core2.MLV-Mumbai.teleglobe.net [216.6.
13.53]
16 621 ms 335 ms * if-3-2.mcore3.L78-London.teleglobe.net [195.219.
144.49]
17 785 ms 350 ms 345 ms if-11-0.core3.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.72
.41]
18 * 323 ms * if-9-2.har1.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.72.4
6]
19 610 ms 1036 ms * 020G.th1-1-6k.routers.ovh.net [213.186.32.241]
20 * 315 ms 314 ms 040G.p19 [213.186.32.133]
21 313 ms * 574 ms 213.251.130.225

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http://www.p1w1max.com/main.html


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http://www.p1w1max.com/faq.html

FAQ

CATEGORIES
•     GENERAL
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•     PURCHASING
•     SERVICE SATISFACTION GUARANTEE
•     SELF CARE ACCOUNT
•     MISC

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•     GENERAL

What is P1 WiMAX?
P1 is one of the pioneers in the World to launch WiMAX services on the 2.5 GHz band, and the FIRST in Malaysia, to bring WiMAX to your doorstep! P1 W1MAX is the leading wireless Internet broadband service with a range of up to 30 miles. It is the successor to WiFi.

How does P1 W1MAX work?
If you’ve reached this page, you’re probably into bits and bytes or just hungry for knowledge. Either way, we’re more than glad to share with you how P1 W1MAX works. P1 W1MAX Tower, this is the signal tower that provides coverage to a broad area. Yup, this is pretty much what beams the WiMAX signal. P1 W1MAX Modem, the modem is no stranger to most of us. It’s hooked up to our computers and does the necessary for us to receive WiMAX signals from the base station. Making the connection, our Transmitting Base Station connects directly to the P1 Internet Backbone and then transmits the signal to a wide area. The modem gets the WiMAX signal from the base station and connects users within that area seamlessly to P1 W1MAX.

What is unique about P1 W1MAX compared to other WiFi services?
WiMAX and WiFi are both wireless broadband access. However, both standards are aimed at different applications.

Where can I get more information about P1 W1MAX?
Information about P1 W1MAX is available in this website. Alternatively please call our Customer Care Line at 1 300 800 888 from 8.00am to 11.00pm.

Is P1 W1MAX safe to use?
Absolutely! P1 W1MAX is totally safe to use.

•     REGISTRATION

How do I sign-up for P1 W1MAX services?

You can subscribe to P1 W1MAX online. Alternatively, you can also sign-up for our services at our P1 Authorised Dealers. Please click here for a complete list of our Authorised Dealers or call our Customer Service at 1 300 800 888 for more information.

Why should I subscribe to P1 W1MAX services?

i. You will be among the 1st WiMAX subscribers in Malaysia as P1 is the first to launch the technology in Malaysia.
ii. P1 will ensure you get the best support to save you time and money.
iii. With P1 W1MAX, you will enjoy wireless and high speed Internet access without any messy cables and wires.
iv. You won’t need to worry about finding a hotspot anymore as P1 W1MAX provides greater coverage than WiFi, blanketing entire areas with P1 W1MAX coverage and services.
v. With P1 W1MAX you can enjoy better quality of service, without interruptions. Your Internet experience will be seamless.

Who is eligible to subscribe for P1 W1MAX services?
Anyone with a valid IC or passport number is eligible to register and subscribe to the services.

Can I have more than one P1 W1MAX account/subscription?
YES. You can have more than one P1 W1MAX account/subscription.

•     PACKAGES

Is there a minimum contract period?
P1 W1MAX offers different packages for your different needs. The contract period will depend on the package that is offered.

•     ACCESSIBILITY

How fast is the connection?
P1 W1MAX has different packages to meet different needs.

Can I use P1 W1MAX services anywhere?
YES! You can enjoy P1 W1MAX services anywhere within our coverage area with ease.

How long would I need to wait for my P1 W1MAX services to be activated?
Your P1 W1MAX service will be activated the day
* from the date you submit your application form.
* Next day or next working day; whichever is later.

What are the P1 W1MAX coverage areas?
Please click here to find the list of P1 W1MAX coverage areas.

•     REQUIRED DEVICES

What do I need to enjoy P1 W1MAX services?
To enjoy P1 W1MAX, you’ll need to fulfill these 3 pre-requisite requirements.
i. Desktop / Laptop with minimum System Requirements of: xxxxxxxxxx
ii. P1 W1MAX Modem
iii. Must be within P1 W1MAX Coverage area

What is a P1 W1MAX Modem?
P1 W1MAX Modem is a Plug and Play device that you need to purchase in order to enjoy P1 W1MAX services. The modem can be purchased from P1 directly or from P1 Authorised Dealers.

Is there a warranty period for the P1 W1MAX Modem?
YES! Your P1 W1MAX Modem comes with a warranty of 12 months from the date of purchase.

How do I install my P1 W1MAX Modem?
The P1 W1MAX Modem is a plug and play device. Simply follow the short instructions in the Quick Install Guide that comes with your modem.

What do I obtain upon successful subscription of P1 W1MAX services?
Upon successful subscription to P1 W1MAX services, you will obtain a box containing the P1 W1MAX Modem. The box includes one Installation Guide, one P1 W1MAX Modem, one Power Adapter and one Ethernet Cable.

Do I need to purchase additional equipment?
No. You don’t need to purchase any additional equipment to enjoy P1 W1MAX services.

Do I need a phone line to use P1 W1MAX services?
No. You do not need a phone line to use P1 W1MAX services.

•     PURCHASING

How do I pay my monthly access fee?
P1 makes it convenient and easy for you to pay your bills. Please click here to pick your channel of payment.

What will happen if I don’t pay my monthly access fee?
Your service will be suspended until you settle your overdue payments. Please refer to our Terms and Conditions.

•     SERVICE SATISFACTION GUARANTEE

What?
P1 offers 15-days Service Satisfaction Guarantee, whereby customers are given the privilege to get full refund if they are not satisfied with P1 W1MAX service.

Why?
Ensures customers’ that we are very confident on our product, hence gain customers’ confidence and trust on P1 W1MAX service. Proves that we back our own product without prejudice and we ensure quality of service.

How?
P1 will refund all charges and buy back the P1 W1MAX Modem if necessary. RM50 will be charged as administrative fee.

•     SELF CARE ACCOUNT

1. Log on to www.p1w1max.com
2. Click on My Account
3. Register a new Account
4. Key in the information needed and follow the step
5. Registration complete with a user ID and password

•     MISC

Can I test my P1 W1MAX connection speed?
YES! You can test your current P1 W1MAX connection speed here.

Can I resell P1 W1MAX services?
NO. Reselling P1 W1MAX is strictly prohibited. Please read our Terms and Conditions.


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do gaming on this p1wimax good because it is still wireless afterall?
and also does p1wimax block bt?
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so, they have their own line to the world ?
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Anybody subscribed yet?
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I just went to their booth and registered, even i paid for the RM100 upfront. Now i have to wait for few working days for a technician come to deliver the modem.
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Depends on what gaming. I do believe heavy gaming, it will be bad. Light gaming can be okay.
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monitoring this thread with interest since reading the news report said that P1 will be available in Melaka by year's end.

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QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 20 2008, 01:20 PM)
Well, I am using P1 Hotspot at the moment.

All the international link is not connected to TM backbone.....
Tracing route to www.yahoo.com [209.131.36.158]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    6 ms    5 ms    6 ms  10.0.48.1
  2  110 ms    24 ms    4 ms  122.255.101.49
  3    7 ms    9 ms    13 ms  122.255.98.13
  4    10 ms    20 ms    18 ms  10.0.0.13
  5    8 ms    12 ms    20 ms  122.255.101.18
  6    9 ms    8 ms    27 ms  122.255.99.17
  7  783 ms    7 ms    14 ms  122.255.98.42
  8    *    1129 ms    11 ms  122.255.98.34
  9  114 ms    16 ms    16 ms  122.255.98.38
10    *        *      11 ms  fe3 [63.218.167.69]
11  203 ms  236 ms  209 ms  63-218-179-34.pccwglobal.net [63.218.179.34]
12  208 ms  203 ms  209 ms  ae0-p171.msr2.sp1.yahoo.com [216.115.107.83]
13  738 ms  211 ms  207 ms  te-9-1.bas-a1.sp1.yahoo.com [209.131.32.23]
14  217 ms  212 ms  216 ms  f1.www.vip.sp1.yahoo.com [209.131.36.158]

C:\Users\nazha-lap>tracert www.singtel.com.sg

Tracing route to www.singtel.com.sg [203.208.248.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    8 ms    11 ms    5 ms  10.0.48.1
  2    10 ms    8 ms    4 ms  122.255.101.49
  3    *        7 ms    13 ms  122.255.98.13
  4    14 ms    8 ms    7 ms  10.0.0.13
  5    30 ms    *        *    122.255.101.18
  6    11 ms    8 ms    10 ms  122.255.99.17
  7    9 ms    6 ms    13 ms  122.255.98.42
  8  126 ms    14 ms  102 ms  122.255.98.34
  9    26 ms    35 ms  131 ms  124.158.230.9
10    43 ms    19 ms    95 ms  gi-0-3.cr-gw-2-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.210.130]
11    *      20 ms    23 ms  gi-0-3.cr-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.211.129]
12    20 ms    18 ms    34 ms  pos-2-0.br-gw-1-sin-pip.sg.globaltransit.net [61
.11.210.2]
13    *        *      30 ms  gi [124.158.224.98]
14    43 ms    18 ms  167 ms  203.208.143.141
15  1277 ms    *      21 ms  ge-4-0-1-0.sngtp-cr1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.182
.1]
16    *      18 ms    71 ms  202.160.250.230
17    *    1218 ms    40 ms  203.208.232.38
18    25 ms    26 ms    18 ms  203.208.232.53
19  477 ms    24 ms  101 ms  203.208.248.10

Tracing route to www.ovh.co.uk [87.98.255.34]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    50 ms    6 ms    11 ms  10.0.48.1
  2    7 ms    9 ms    5 ms  122.255.101.49
  3    63 ms    *        *    122.255.98.13
  4    *      279 ms    17 ms  10.0.0.13
  5    10 ms    9 ms    23 ms  122.255.101.18
  6    22 ms    75 ms    17 ms  122.255.99.17
  7  231 ms    41 ms  231 ms  122.255.98.42
  8    *      16 ms    24 ms  122.255.98.34
  9    *      16 ms  136 ms  124.158.230.9
10    *      922 ms    *    gi-0-2.pp-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.211.184]
11    *        *      38 ms  216.6.121.45
12  218 ms  162 ms  100 ms  if-6-6.core3.HK2-HongKong.teleglobe.net [116.0.8
2.65]
13  175 ms  204 ms  100 ms  if-11-0-0-731.core1.S9R-Singapore.teleglobe.net
[116.0.82.22]
14    *      111 ms  184 ms  if-3-0-0.core1.CFO-Chennai.Teleglobe.net [209.58
.82.62]
15  167 ms  148 ms  213 ms  if-15-0-0.core2.MLV-Mumbai.teleglobe.net [216.6.
13.53]
16  621 ms  335 ms    *    if-3-2.mcore3.L78-London.teleglobe.net [195.219.
144.49]
17  785 ms  350 ms  345 ms  if-11-0.core3.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.72
.41]
18    *      323 ms    *    if-9-2.har1.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.72.4
6]
19  610 ms  1036 ms    *    020G.th1-1-6k.routers.ovh.net [213.186.32.241]
20    *      315 ms  314 ms  040G.p19 [213.186.32.133]
21  313 ms    *      574 ms  213.251.130.225
*
Ur local ping is quite nice, but keep jumping...if its stable then can consider online gaming friendly. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Aug 20 2008, 11:24 PM)
Ur local ping is quite nice, but keep jumping...if its stable then can consider online gaming friendly.  thumbup.gif
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my local ping quite nice ?

just now i was using P1 hotspot.
ping to singapore 155ms. sad.gif


Btw, my Streamyx ROCK...
dont talk about p2p la.. consider ok la.. if i have a singapore proxy. then best best.
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Yup, proxies and socks do helps a lot to unthrottle the p2p speed which throttled by TM. I always got a full speed of downloading p2p while using some asia servers to make a socks.
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QUOTE(hackinz @ Aug 20 2008, 10:44 AM)
Errmm.. What is the extra column of RM10.00 charges for Nationwide access?

Did anyone bring up the question to P1 personell whether or not  they blocked or limited bandwith for P2P/Torrent?
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The extra column is the charges if you want to bring your CPE out of the place where you are registered to (imagine if balik kampung also can use internet).
For streamyx, you can't bring your modem and use it elsewhere cause your account is somehow registered to your phone line. Since P1 W1MAX is a wireless connection, it could bypass that limitation. That's one of the thumb up for wireless technology.

Looking at the pricing, it might look expensive but if you are looking at phone+streamyx, actually the price is close to what TM is offering but slightly cheaper. It's targeting people who don't need a phone at home (everyone has mobile phone nowaday) but are forced to sign up for a phone at home (not use but still charged monthly fee) by TM strategy for home broadband.

I personally believe there is no ISP in the world who doesn't block P2P for broadband users tongue.gif.
It just doesn't make sense right? ... else who will pay for leased line? laugh.gif


Added on August 20, 2008, 11:40 pm
QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 20 2008, 11:29 PM)
my local ping quite nice ?

just now i was using P1 hotspot.
ping to singapore 155ms. sad.gif
Btw, my Streamyx ROCK...
dont talk about p2p la.. consider ok la.. if i have a singapore proxy. then best best.
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People are talking P1 W1MAX in here, you P1 Hotspot ... stand aside la ... tongue.gif

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P1 hotspot and P1 Wimax are using the same internet backbone la....

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QUOTE(isMEheNG @ Aug 18 2008, 09:45 PM)
wow free modem until 30 August...but i'm stay at JB...
Hope they are also giving free modem during promotion when launch at JB and Penang etc...
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i from jb too...dont think so soon going to launch in jb...any idea when?hehe..btw...still nobody can answer they throattle p2p?tongue.gif

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Jaring Wireless Modem already cost me a bomb, I'm still waiting to hear how good this is.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 20 2008, 11:29 PM)
my local ping quite nice ?

just now i was using P1 hotspot.
ping to singapore 155ms. sad.gif
Btw, my Streamyx ROCK...
dont talk about p2p la.. consider ok la.. if i have a singapore proxy. then best best.
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Singapore can be considered local? blink.gif

LOL..now i realized its Hotspot...lol....................i want Wimax response time lol.........


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how about BT speed for this P1?
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Here are some latency test on Wimax by south african users
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=119315
Most of them seem to be able to ping their ISP at under 100ms with good cases under 50ms while some of them over 100ms due to poor signal locations.
I think factors influencing latency would be noise/interference and backhaul quality.
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did anyone check the price after 12m/24m contract, what the actually monthly price ?

do we need to renew the contract, or still enjoy the flat rate according the 12m/24m contract ?

where is t&c P1 W1MAX for bandwidth ? any cap or throttle ? or truly unlimited bandwidth ?

until today, none mention about the upload speed* oh did i misread the package ?

the package of 400Kbps/700Kbps/1.2Mbps/2.4Mbps are not details enough, where is the upload speed ?? 64K/128K/256K ???

tips for user going wimax

for user who want to BT/P2P/Gaming(FPS) stay with yr wired broadband, just remember the limitation on wireless

if u can accept the quality BT/P2P/Gaming(FPS), go ahead with yr wireless broadband

*even P1 W1MAX might allowed BT/P2P now, does not mean in future they won't block.

hope i won't see user rant P1 W1MAX block BT/P2P tongue.gif

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About their upload it's 512kbps if i not mistaken. I did asked about p2p when i was at their roadshow. They said the services are throttle for p2p. But doesnt have the data limitation for monthly. Anyway lets see who get to try out and tell in-details. I will keep update you guys after i get the modem and use it.

Now you can check the coverage through

http://www.p1.com.my/Wimax/aspx/wimaxmap.aspx
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QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 21 2008, 03:27 AM)
About their upload it's 512kbps if i not mistaken. I did asked about p2p when i was at their roadshow. They said the services are throttle for p2p. But doesnt have the data limitation for monthly. Anyway lets see who get to try out and tell in-details. I will keep update you guys after i get the modem and use it.

Now you can check the coverage through

http://www.p1.com.my/Wimax/aspx/wimaxmap.aspx
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how much did you paid the for modem ? 900 plus ? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Aug 21 2008, 04:05 AM)
how much did you paid the for modem ? 900 plus ?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Aug 21 2008, 05:31 AM)
Modem is free if you sign a contract before the end of September.
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doh.gif damn!!! , so after september it'll be 900 plus for the modem ? cause i have a 12 months contract with streamyx and i want to stop using streamyx and change to P1 W1Max but i cant cause if i do then ill have to pay for the remaining months sad.gif

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Aug 21 2008, 08:06 AM)
doh.gif damn!!! , so after september it'll be 900 plus for the modem ? cause i have a 12 months contract with streamyx and i want to stop using streamyx and change to P1 W1Max but i cant cause if i do then  ill have to pay for the remaining months sad.gif
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dont worrry, by that time, sure got smaller and nicer modem.
sure got promotion from time to time as well
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QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 21 2008, 08:10 AM)
dont worrry, by that time, sure got smaller and nicer modem.
sure got promotion from time to time as well
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the d-link dsl-2640t modem im using now will be a waste if i were to use the P1 W1max modem... doh.gif 200 ringgit will soon go into the bin...

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QUOTE(Suk @ Aug 20 2008, 01:20 PM)
Well, I am using P1 Hotspot at the moment.

All the international link is not connected to TM backbone.....
Tracing route to www.yahoo.com [209.131.36.158]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     6 ms     5 ms     6 ms  10.0.48.1
  2   110 ms    24 ms     4 ms  122.255.101.49
  3     7 ms     9 ms    13 ms  122.255.98.13
  4    10 ms    20 ms    18 ms  10.0.0.13
  5     8 ms    12 ms    20 ms  122.255.101.18
  6     9 ms     8 ms    27 ms  122.255.99.17
  7   783 ms     7 ms    14 ms  122.255.98.42
  8     *     1129 ms    11 ms  122.255.98.34
  9   114 ms    16 ms    16 ms  122.255.98.38
10     *        *       11 ms  fe3 [63.218.167.69]
11   203 ms   236 ms   209 ms  63-218-179-34.pccwglobal.net [63.218.179.34]
12   208 ms   203 ms   209 ms  ae0-p171.msr2.sp1.yahoo.com [216.115.107.83]
13   738 ms   211 ms   207 ms  te-9-1.bas-a1.sp1.yahoo.com [209.131.32.23]
14   217 ms   212 ms   216 ms  f1.www.vip.sp1.yahoo.com [209.131.36.158]

C:\Users\nazha-lap>tracert www.singtel.com.sg

Tracing route to www.singtel.com.sg [203.208.248.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     8 ms    11 ms     5 ms  10.0.48.1
  2    10 ms     8 ms     4 ms  122.255.101.49
  3     *        7 ms    13 ms  122.255.98.13
  4    14 ms     8 ms     7 ms  10.0.0.13
  5    30 ms     *        *     122.255.101.18
  6    11 ms     8 ms    10 ms  122.255.99.17
  7     9 ms     6 ms    13 ms  122.255.98.42
  8   126 ms    14 ms   102 ms  122.255.98.34
  9    26 ms    35 ms   131 ms  124.158.230.9
10    43 ms    19 ms    95 ms  gi-0-3.cr-gw-2-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.210.130]
11     *       20 ms    23 ms  gi-0-3.cr-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.211.129]
12    20 ms    18 ms    34 ms  pos-2-0.br-gw-1-sin-pip.sg.globaltransit.net [61
.11.210.2]
13     *        *       30 ms  gi [124.158.224.98]
14    43 ms    18 ms   167 ms  203.208.143.141
15  1277 ms     *       21 ms  ge-4-0-1-0.sngtp-cr1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.182
.1]
16     *       18 ms    71 ms  202.160.250.230
17     *     1218 ms    40 ms  203.208.232.38
18    25 ms    26 ms    18 ms  203.208.232.53
19   477 ms    24 ms   101 ms  203.208.248.10

Tracing route to www.ovh.co.uk [87.98.255.34]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    50 ms     6 ms    11 ms  10.0.48.1
  2     7 ms     9 ms     5 ms  122.255.101.49
  3    63 ms     *        *     122.255.98.13
  4     *      279 ms    17 ms  10.0.0.13
  5    10 ms     9 ms    23 ms  122.255.101.18
  6    22 ms    75 ms    17 ms  122.255.99.17
  7   231 ms    41 ms   231 ms  122.255.98.42
  8     *       16 ms    24 ms  122.255.98.34
  9     *       16 ms   136 ms  124.158.230.9
10     *      922 ms     *     gi-0-2.pp-gw-1-kul-pip.my.globaltransit.net [61.
11.211.184]
11     *        *       38 ms  216.6.121.45
12   218 ms   162 ms   100 ms  if-6-6.core3.HK2-HongKong.teleglobe.net [116.0.8
2.65]
13   175 ms   204 ms   100 ms  if-11-0-0-731.core1.S9R-Singapore.teleglobe.net
[116.0.82.22]
14     *      111 ms   184 ms  if-3-0-0.core1.CFO-Chennai.Teleglobe.net [209.58
.82.62]
15   167 ms   148 ms   213 ms  if-15-0-0.core2.MLV-Mumbai.teleglobe.net [216.6.
13.53]
16   621 ms   335 ms     *     if-3-2.mcore3.L78-London.teleglobe.net [195.219.
144.49]
17   785 ms   350 ms   345 ms  if-11-0.core3.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.72
.41]
18     *      323 ms     *     if-9-2.har1.PG1-Paris.teleglobe.net [80.231.72.4
6]
19   610 ms  1036 ms     *     020G.th1-1-6k.routers.ovh.net [213.186.32.241]
20     *      315 ms   314 ms  040G.p19 [213.186.32.133]
21   313 ms     *      574 ms  213.251.130.225
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Latency looks mighty fine for a wireless. In fact, it looks much better than our narrowband suckmyx.
The occasionnal spike is weird thought.

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modem got menu to see the signal level not? then i can move close to strong signal brows.gif
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Will the W1max Microwave jeopardize our health?
I mean that “Health Effects of Microwave Radiationâ€
I’m thinking kind of those waves can kill us?

Microwave Radiation
According to the United States Food and Drug Administration's Center for Devices and Radiological Health, a US Federal standard limits microwave leakage from an oven, for the lifetime of the device, to 5 milliwatts per square centimetre when measured 5 centimetres from the surface of the oven.[16] This is far below the exposure level currently considered to be harmful to human health.
The radiation produced by a microwave oven is non-ionizing. It therefore does not have the cancer risks associated with ionizing radiation such as X-rays, ultraviolet light, and high-energy particles. Long-term rodent studies to assess cancer risk have so far failed to identify any carcinogenicity from 2.45 GHz microwave radiation even with chronic (ie, large fraction of life span) exposure levels, far larger than humans are likely to encounter from any leaking ovens.[17][18] However, with the oven door open, the radiation may cause damage by heating; as with any cooking device. Nearly every microwave sold has a protective interlock so that it cannot be run when the door is open or improperly latched.
When injury from exposure to microwaves occurs, it usually results from dielectric heating induced in the body, the same heating that cooks food. Exposure to microwave radiation can produce cataracts by this mechanism, because the microwave heating denatures proteins in the crystalline lens of the eye (in the same way that heat turns egg white and so opaque) faster than the lens can be cooled by surrounding structures. The lens and cornea of the eye are especially vulnerable because they contain no blood vessels that can carry away heat. Exposure to heavy doses of microwave radiation (as from an oven that has been tampered with to allow operation even with the door open) can produce heat damage in other tissues as well, up to and including serious burns which may not be immediately evident because of the tendency for microwaves to heat deeper tissues with higher moisture content.

References
http://www.herbalhealer.com/microwave.html
http://www.mariatiffin.com/smarthealth.html
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen99/gen99445.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave
http://www.emrnetwork.org/siting/exposure_...tion_hyland.htm
http://www.reach.net/~scherer/p/biofx.htm
http://www.vaccinetruth.org/microwave.htm

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QUOTE(Zepx @ Aug 20 2008, 11:53 PM)
Jaring Wireless Modem already cost me a bomb, I'm still waiting to hear how good this is.
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I'm wondering how much other wireless providers charge for their modem. Providers like Jaring, Izzi, Time and etc.

QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Aug 21 2008, 08:06 AM)
doh.gif damn!!! , so after september it'll be 900 plus for the modem ? cause i have a 12 months contract with streamyx and i want to stop using streamyx and change to P1 W1Max but i cant cause if i do then  ill have to pay for the remaining months sad.gif
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Same here. I'm scared by the time it gets to my area I'm going to have to pay RM999. cry.gif

QUOTE(VegasMnet @ Aug 21 2008, 08:57 AM)
modem got menu to see the signal level not? then i can move close to strong signal  brows.gif
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There's no menu. It's on the modem itself. 3 colors; red, yellow and green.

Red - no connection/weak connection
Yellow - average connection
Green - optimum/best connection
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QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 21 2008, 03:27 AM)
About their upload it's 512kbps if i not mistaken. I did asked about p2p when i was at their roadshow. They said the services are throttle for p2p.
Now you can check the coverage through

http://www.p1.com.my/Wimax/aspx/wimaxmap.aspx
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hope what u said is true.

imo 512Kbps should be set as standard upload speed smile.gif for any broadband provider.

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But doesnt have the data limitation for monthly. Anyway lets see who get to try out and tell in-details. I will keep update you guys after i get the modem and use it.

personally i have no confidence base on the words, prefer t&c or b&w written

anyone have link to t&c P1 W1MAX ?

QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Aug 21 2008, 08:15 AM)
the d-link dsl-2640t modem im using now will be a waste if i were to use the P1 W1max modem...  doh.gif 200 ringgit will soon go into the bin...
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you can always sell of the d-link

QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 21 2008, 10:29 AM)
Same here. I'm scared by the time it gets to my area I'm going to have to pay RM999. cry.gif
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we just need more competitor to offer WIMAX, the modem price would come down
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For 1.2Mbps and 2.4Mbps the upload speed is under 512Kbps but for 400Kbps and 700Kbps package, the upload is under 300Kbps

In the end of this year, they going to released some smaller modem. More portable. Something like Celcom USB modem or whatever. Anyway, USB modem always giving a drawback to user that using more than 1 computer. Because you just couldnt plug it into router and do some connection sharing.

QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Aug 21 2008, 04:05 AM)
how much did you paid the for modem ? 900 plus ?  rclxub.gif
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If you register during the promotion period, the modem fee RM999 will waived without any charges. But you just need to give RM100 for the upfront, and others will be on the first bill.

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Silly question but I guess still relevant somehow to this thread...how do you pronounce W1Max?
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QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Aug 21 2008, 12:11 PM)
hope what u said is true.

imo 512Kbps should be set as standard upload speed smile.gif for any broadband provider.
personally i have no confidence base on the words, prefer t&c or b&w written

anyone have link to t&c P1 W1MAX ?

you can always sell of the d-link

we just need more competitor to offer WIMAX, the modem price would come down
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You go to their page, then at the bottom of the page, click to Terms and Conditions, there you click P1 WiMAX Terms and Conditions, the first one.
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QUOTE(estara @ Aug 21 2008, 03:13 PM)
Silly question but I guess still relevant somehow to this thread...how do you pronounce W1Max?
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It's pronounced Why-Max. 1 = i.

Not sure why'd they went with 1337 (leet) speak but I guess it's because they want to create interest among gamers as well. Anyway, it's pronounced as Wimax. Not.. W-One-Max. tongue.gif
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i guess they'd go for the number 1 thingy...

@p1.com.my and as the first wimax provider in malaysia smile.gif
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QUOTE(Silfrijin @ Aug 21 2008, 03:21 PM)
You go to their page, then at the bottom of the page, click to Terms and Conditions, there you click P1 WiMAX Terms and Conditions, the first one.
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thank for update.

the link to t&c was not there 2am today.

check fair usage policy 20GB data volume = total up&down at 2.3.

"have their bandwidth manage" never mention at what speed xxx

after all streamyx still the best choice cry.gif for hardcore downloader whistling.gif

P1 staff @ pls update the upload speed i'm very sure u reading this message
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Some news about WiMax developments at The Edge Daily, http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/search.jsp...wimax&sort=date
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I already confirmed with the 20gb data volume. A high level of P1 said to me, that all users are still given data unlimited for every month. This policy "20gb data limitation" is only apply to the area which having a lot of hardcore users and keep drain their bandwidth so all the users are set to be under 20gb data volume. So, it's depends on the area to be set. The speed will be reduce for 30% of your registered speed. Example you getting 100% of your speed will be cut to be 70% if you're over 20gb data. In the next month, Everything will back to normal.
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Yesterday afternoon, I receive a call regarding I get pick as a “P1W1MAX Try Userâ€.
They said that within 3 days I will receive the modem and have a try within 14 days.
Today morning, while I going work and I want to re-conform about the date of receives the modem.
So, I call 1800-800-888 to ask for more information. On the other hand, they said that none of it after 20 August 2008 (After Launch) gets to be try user (No More).
Besides, they said help me conform about the matter.
After all, I’m so disappointed to be inform that their technical error. There is no try you me and for all.
After that, I recall the phone number that contacts me about the test user. The answer is valid.
No idea I get try use or not, my head are very dizzy.
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the modem given is it the portable type or a big chunky one? can it surf simultaneously with 2 pc?
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im quite confused how the modem works...

izzit a wireless modem ?
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Aug 21 2008, 05:29 PM)
the modem given is it the portable type or a big chunky one? can it surf simultaneously with 2 pc?
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Is a Network Modem, that allow you to share as multiple computer in the same network.
Besides, it also come with 1 adapter that convert 240V 12V to the modem.
Hence, you can go where the place that have coverage but also a plug slot.
It actuary have a network port to plug in to your computer or your switch.
Even can plug into wifi rounter, same as the ADSL or SDSL but just wireless.


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Frankly speaking i stick with D98 Celcom package with up to 3.6Mbps on HSPDA speed download with better coverage. I have use more than 100GB data transfer per month no warning at all.

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QUOTE(MX510 @ Aug 21 2008, 05:46 PM)
Frankly speaking i stick with D98 Celcom package with up to 3.6Mbps on HSPDA speed download with better coverage. I have use more than 100GB data transfer per month no warning at all.
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I have been call celcom last week, they said that they just implant the 5000Gbit NOT Byte early this month.
Hence, last month you are freedom to download as many as you wish. After you reach 5000Gbit you will get 128kbit/second.
D68 and D98 or D120 also same 5000Gbit and please convert to byte to get acture answer.
Maxis is 3000Gbit not Byte for information if reach 3000Gbit can purchase addition bandwith.
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 21 2008, 05:45 PM)
Is a Network Modem, that allow you to share as multiple computer in the same network.
Besides, it also come with 1 adapter that convert 240V 12V to the modem.
Hence, you can go where the place that have coverage but also a plug slot.
It actuary have a network port to plug in to your computer or your switch.
Even can plug into wifi rounter, same as the ADSL or SDSL but just wireless.
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sweet, i like how the modem works. rclxms.gif

anways ill be going for the P1 W1Max 1200 package end of this year on a 12 or 24 month contract with a speed of 1.2 mbps.

and i can say bye bye to streamyx forever... rclxm9.gif

1.2 is not bad rite guys ? or should i go for 700 ? hmm.gif

i cant go for 2.4 mbps cause ive no money to pay and i rather hang myself. lol besides why do i even need 2.4 ? shakehead.gif

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At last time, while i go vication at Pulau langkawi. I play P2P and 2mb live video streaming at there without any problem. Langkawi speed more then 2.8mb more and less last time i visit while LIMA show. (Kind of Aropline and water boat competition (LIMA)). 3G or 3.5G depance of location and user per current location and total of bar you recieve.

(Celcom HSDPA) Tested at Langkawi only.


Added on August 21, 2008, 6:12 pm
QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 21 2008, 04:38 PM)
I already confirmed with the 20gb data volume. A high level of P1 said to me, that all users are still given data unlimited for every month. This policy "20gb data limitation" is only apply to the area which having a lot of hardcore users and keep drain their bandwidth so all the users are set to be under 20gb data volume. So, it's depends on the area to be set. The speed will be reduce for 30% of your registered speed. Example you getting 100% of your speed will be cut to be 70% if you're over 20gb data. In the next month, Everything will back to normal.
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Hope P1 willing to consider to incress the monthly bandwhith due to 20Gbit not much.
bit and Byte is alot of deffrient

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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 21 2008, 04:09 PM)
It's pronounced Why-Max. 1 = i.

Not sure why'd they went with 1337 (leet) speak but I guess it's because they want to create interest among gamers as well. Anyway, it's pronounced as Wimax. Not.. W-One-Max. tongue.gif
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Cool thanks. That's exactly where I got confused. I pronounced it Why-max until I saw the '1' and got doubtful. Thanks!
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 21 2008, 05:53 PM)
I have been call celcom last week, they said that they just implant the 5000Gbit NOT Byte early this month.
Hence, last month you are freedom to download as many as you wish. After you reach 5000Gbit you will get 128kbit/second.
D68 and D98 or D120 also same 5000Gbit and please convert to byte to get acture answer.
Maxis is 3000Gbit not Byte for information if reach 3000Gbit can purchase addition bandwith.
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1st time i heard Gbit, if my math is poor = 5000Gbit=625GB hmm.gif does not sound right.

QUOTE(owc @ Aug 21 2008, 05:59 PM)
At last time, while i go vication at Pulau langkawi. I play P2P and 2mb live video streaming at there without any problem. Langkawi speed more then 2.8mb more and less last time i visit while LIMA show. (Kind of Aropline and water boat competition (LIMA)). 3G or 3.5G depance of location and user per current location and total of bar you recieve.

(Celcom HSDPA) Tested at Langkawi only.


Added on August 21, 2008, 6:12 pm

Hope P1 willing to consider to incress the monthly bandwhith due to 20Gbit not much.
bit and Byte is alot of deffrient
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read the P1 W1MAX t&c is 20 gigabytes
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Aug 21 2008, 05:46 PM)
Frankly speaking i stick with D98 Celcom package with up to 3.6Mbps on HSPDA speed download with better coverage. I have use more than 100GB data transfer per month no warning at all.
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Well, fair usage is the only way to control P2P and allow everyone to use the Internet with pure satisfaction. Can't compare to those countries with high speeds because if you're already downloading super fast then what's considered slow anymore? LOL!

Though disappointing to have a limitation, if their speeds are on par with Streamyx with better promises - I'll still wave bye-bye to Streamyx.

QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Aug 21 2008, 05:57 PM)
sweet, i like how the modem works.  rclxms.gif

anways ill be going for the P1 W1Max 1200 package end of this year on a 12 or 24 month contract with a speed of 1.2 mbps.

and i can say bye bye to streamyx forever...  rclxm9.gif

1.2 is not bad rite guys ? or should i go for 700 ? hmm.gif

i cant go for 2.4 mbps cause ive no money to pay and i rather hang myself. lol besides why do i even need 2.4 ?  shakehead.gif
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I'd probably go with 1.2Mbps as well. Spoiled by nothing less than 1Mbps. LOL! tongue.gif

The 2.4Mbps is a little out of reach for my personal budget.
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 21 2008, 07:33 PM)
I'd probably go with 1.2Mbps as well. Spoiled by nothing less than 1Mbps. LOL! tongue.gif

The 2.4Mbps is a little out of reach for my personal budget.
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Shooot !!! i forgot about the modem that will cost 900 plus doh.gif will it still be that price after the end of this year ? icon_question.gif
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Exactly, for the 1.2Mbps. The maximum speed given is under 1.5Mbps. Probably you can reach around 1.3-1.4Mbps if you're lucky. Btw, Now i was using Celcom wireless, and i quite satisfied with the service in term of their speed. I always get full speed that i registered. But 1 thing makes me frustrated is that, the modem they provided is USB modem. You only can online a computer on the same time. I can't plug into my router to share and yet to buy hspda's modem under cable. It just cost too much for it.

P1 is giving free cable modem. That's why i choosing for it

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Despite all the hype surrounding W1Max service, I think they would offer ongoing promotions because I felt that the current launch is severely limited (due to the limited coverage areas & the limitation for high rise customers) and the actual demand for the service would remains untapped for a while.

Mobile users would probably be more interested in the USB modem but i think W1max would priced this service slightly higher (when launched) given it's attractiveness in terms of mobility factor. Given that aspect, possibly the current HSDPA services offered by the mobile telcos will still remain attractive.

I'm rather against the RM100 installation fees as I think it's being made to partly pay the channel partners (read W1Max agents) to market the product. Don't you realize that's why you are asked to pay an upfront of RM100 when you register and the rest will be charged to the bill ? The money can be used to pay off at least 1 month subscription.

And what about the lack of information on the T&C and plenty of other information? That can be scary and it appears that W1max did not put this into much thought prior to the service launch.

Try this - call the CS and ask
- Can you change your current modem to the USB modem?
- When will be be launched ?
- Would I be charged for the conversion and how much ?

You'll find some of the answers to be very vague. Come on P1, customers are much more sophisticated nowadays ! If you want to treat them like a small child - you'll find that eventually people will just walk out on you.

Just my 2 cents.
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P1 2.4Mbit pakage very nice.... but talk about RM... expensive...still
tongue.gif hope they can give more nice plan... hehe

If stay at Langkawi "Celcom HSDPA" get 2.6mb ~ 2.8mb
I miss there, unluckly i'm not stay there, just vication only.

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hi..im the lucky one that got to be the trial user...hmmmm...all of u seem excited about it...ok...but imho this thing is not that stable yet..first of all in order to get good signal u hav to put ur modem near window..n u hav to pusing2 abit before u get the sweet spot...for about a week i din get the green color light at all green color mean the best signal, i will only get amber n sometime it will turn to red...as it say the radius of the signal is 50km..n the base from my house is not even 2km...sometimes it is so hard to connect n the response time is so slow...


Added on August 21, 2008, 9:59 pmp1 is good...but not that good....

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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 09:56 PM)
hi..im the lucky one that got to be the trial user...hmmmm...all of u seem excited about it...ok...but imho this thing is not that stable yet..first of all in order to get good signal u hav to put ur modem near window..n u hav to pusing2 abit before u get the sweet spot...for about a week i din get the green color light at all green color mean the best signal, i will only get amber n sometime it will turn to red...as it say the radius of the signal is 50km..n the base from my house is not even 2km...sometimes it is so hard to connect n the response time is so slow...
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P1 mentioned the upstream for 400kbps is 150kbps while 700kbps get 300kbps upstream and for 1.2mbps and 2.4mbps both has 500kbps for upstream.

I keep calling P1 to convince them that the 2.4mbps package needs to be paired with at least 1.2mbps upstream to justify the extra rm100++ paid.
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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 09:56 PM)
hi..im the lucky one that got to be the trial user...hmmmm...all of u seem excited about it...ok...but imho this thing is not that stable yet..first of all in order to get good signal u hav to put ur modem near window..n u hav to pusing2 abit before u get the sweet spot...for about a week i din get the green color light at all green color mean the best signal, i will only get amber n sometime it will turn to red...as it say the radius of the signal is 50km..n the base from my house is not even 2km...sometimes it is so hard to connect n the response time is so slow...


Added on August 21, 2008, 9:59 pmp1 is good...but not that good....
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Which area you were in now?
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taman melati, n the base situated at shop near jalan taman melati 1/5


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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 10:34 PM)
taman melati, n the base situated at shop near jalan taman melati 1/5
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In between TARC and PV Melati?. Anyway how was the streaming videos?
Does the buffering is faster than the play?
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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 10:34 PM)
taman melati, n the base situated at shop near jalan taman melati 1/5
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so as you a trial user the speed was something like on your siggy ? how much is that in mbps ? should be 1. something...
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The try user only get 1.2mb package only for 14 days
2.4mb d only with paid user

no point you want try user get 2mb ++ due to the package limit

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for video streaming it sure good if the connection is good...right now it is neck to neck, n yes that is the speed
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 21 2008, 10:43 PM)
The try user only get 1.2mb package only for 14 days
2.4mb d only with paid user
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wah not bad, not bad. tongue.gif lucky guy... but the thing he said just now scared me on how the connection is unstable and hard to connect plus response time is slow hmm.gif
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How is the time that P1 reach 1m user ?
is it another celcom? maxis? streamyx?
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n u know wut...if i broke the modem i hav to pay rm1500...sometime i've always felt want to smash the modem to the floor if cant connect
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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 10:47 PM)
n u know wut...if i broke the modem i hav to pay rm1500...sometime i've always felt want to smash the modem to the floor if cant connect
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blink.gif woah easy there bro, lol why ? izzit that hard to connect ?
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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 10:47 PM)
n u know wut...if i broke the modem i hav to pay rm1500...sometime i've always felt want to smash the modem to the floor if cant connect
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Yaya i also been chosen as try user, but modem haven't get it.
if the modem over heat, burn.... if i sign the agreement i must pay 1,500RMY.
so, open air cond 24 hour?
or if can put it in freg?
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sometime it really hard to connect..n u really hav to position the modem...like i said pusing2 abit..like a tv antenna..before u get the sweet spot...now i've oledi got the spot...but still sometime the response time is slow..i've tried pinging ...there is always couple of time the request is timed out..
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Anyway, they said this week they will send me test the product 1.2mb
test and see 1st, and fully utilize the p2p and try 1m video streaming live beijing olimpic....haha
see performance 1st o.O
but i still sad i have been wait to be tester seem KLCC PIKOM until yesterday get call.
Hopefully that P1 don't Areoplaining me o.O. regarding give me test.


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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 10:54 PM)
sometime it really hard to connect..n u really hav to position the modem...like i said pusing2 abit..like a tv antenna..before u get the sweet spot...now i've oledi got the spot...but still sometime the response time is slow..i've tried pinging ...there is always couple of time the request is timed out..
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is it your house got other thing blocking the signal?
Erm may i ask the modem is it got the hole that we can plugin the external anterna?
arh, it remind about the feng sui master that need to find the good spot at house..... is it the P1 W1MAX also need hired fengsui master to find the spot that got green light?

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i dont think so go hole for antenna...better u try it first at your place coz maybe n only my place the connection got problem...but after all it sure fast enough
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I think when you got the modem. The first thing is to try placing the modem everywhere in your house to identify the best spot should be lol.
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QUOTE(wut2du @ Aug 21 2008, 11:12 PM)
i dont think so go hole for antenna...better u try it first at your place coz maybe n only my place the connection got problem...but after all it sure fast enough
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lol maybe we can ask the fengsui master to locate the place that we put the modem then we use wifi rounter to our notebook tongue.gif
haiz, no hole, 3G and izzi mine got hole d....
shill we dig a hole at the modem? sweat.gif
lol later get fine RM1,500.00

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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 21 2008, 11:21 PM)
lol maybe we can ask the fengsui master to locate the place that we put the modem then we use wifi rounter to our notebook tongue.gif
haiz, no hole, 3G and izzi mine got hole d....
shill we dig a hole at the modem?  sweat.gif
lol later get fine RM1,500.00
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Perhaps will can try to call up their fengshui master to come to your door step to use his device to dectect the strong signal location. Haha something similiar to thse fengshui master which taking their compass looking around lol!.
and maybe you need to give extra charge for that kind of services

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QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 21 2008, 11:25 PM)
Perhaps will can try to call up their fengshui master to come to your door step to use his device to dectect the strong signal location. Haha something similiar to thse fengshui master which taking their compass looking around lol!.
and maybe you need to give extra charge for that kind of services
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ya nice, those fengsui master cost RM80.00 installation fee rclxm9.gif
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can anyone use Wikimapia to mark the W1MAX cell tower.

fengshui master for RMxx not worth the price imo
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Beware about the P1 IP address is fix IP address regarding the technical department.
It's not rechangeable during you relog your modem.
So, people can trace your foot step...


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QUOTE(K for Ketamine @ Aug 21 2008, 11:56 PM)
can anyone use Wikimapia to mark the W1MAX cell tower.

fengshui master for RMxx not worth the price imo
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lol the fengsui master is the technician that come to your house to install the modem for you. brows.gif
P1 said that it is recomended that you hired their fengsui master to your house to ensure your reception of $$$. tongue.gif
So that you get high speed while using their service. biggrin.gif
The service price is RM80.00, applycable while register the pakages. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 22 2008, 12:00 AM)
Beware about the P1 IP address is fix IP address regarding the technical department.
It's not rechangeable during you relog your modem.
So, people can trace your foot step...


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:06 am

lol the fengsui master is the technician that come to your house to install the modem for you. brows.gif
P1 said that it is recomended that you hired their fengsui master to your house to ensure your reception of $$$. tongue.gif
So that you get high speed while using their service. biggrin.gif
The service price is RM80.00, applycable while register the pakages. tongue.gif
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The modem is getting a dynamic public IP, how long the IP will be retained depends on the time the DHCP server is set to hold the IP. It is used in any other ISP ...

If you are getting a fixed public IP, you should be thankful!
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 22 2008, 12:00 AM)
Beware about the P1 IP address is fix IP address regarding the technical department.
It's not rechangeable during you relog your modem.
So, people can trace your foot step...


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:06 am

lol the fengsui master is the technician that come to your house to install the modem for you. brows.gif
P1 said that it is recomended that you hired their fengsui master to your house to ensure your reception of $$$. tongue.gif
So that you get high speed while using their service. biggrin.gif
The service price is RM80.00, applycable while register the pakages. tongue.gif
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Serious? P1 Wimax is not under dynamic IP? Instead of Static?
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can i ask is w1max really capable in playing games and host perfectly such as warcraft , cod4 , cs and so on. ? any free user to test it out?

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 22 2008, 12:10 AM)
The modem is getting a dynamic public IP, how long the IP will be retained depends on the time the DHCP server is set to hold the IP. It is used in any other ISP ...

If you are getting a fixed public IP, you should be thankful!
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Wow great, i can host a privert game server again rclxms.gif
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can i ask is w1max really capable in playing games and host perfectly such as warcraft , cod4 , cs and so on. ? any free user to test it out?
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if ? getting a fixed public ip ?

yes to me. ill take the fixed public ip for sure biggrin.gif

not really happy with the streamyx dynamic ip... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Aug 22 2008, 12:24 AM)
if ? getting a fixed public ip ?

yes to me. ill take the fixed public ip for sure biggrin.gif

not really happy with the streamyx dynamic ip...  shakehead.gif
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But while i ask the technical department of P1 they said is Personal and Business Pakages is fix IP. (regarding the Tecnical Department of P1)
Seem the Personal and Business Pakages same price is it better we get Business Pakages.
Mostly Business Pakages percentage get fix IP higher.
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 22 2008, 12:00 AM)
Beware about the P1 IP address is fix IP address regarding the technical department.
It's not rechangeable during you relog your modem.
So, people can trace your foot step...


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:06 am

lol the fengsui master is the technician that come to your house to install the modem for you. brows.gif
P1 said that it is recomended that you hired their fengsui master to your house to ensure your reception of $$$. tongue.gif
So that you get high speed while using their service. biggrin.gif
The service price is RM80.00, applycable while register the pakages. tongue.gif
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You sure its Fixed IP. I know JARING Wireless provides users with dynamic IP , but if you keep on the modem everyday , you'll notice the IP doesn't change unless its off for a really long time. I think its the same with P1 as well. It doesn't matter if you are using Dynamic or Static IP , people can still trace you.
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QUOTE(prasys @ Aug 22 2008, 12:42 AM)
You sure its Fixed IP. I know JARING Wireless provides users with dynamic IP , but if you keep on the modem everyday , you'll notice the IP doesn't change unless its off for a really long time. I think its the same with P1 as well. It doesn't matter if you are using Dynamic or Static IP , people can still trace you.
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well i know my isp and the admin's here can trace my ip , who else bro ? "people" is like a large amount for me... sweat.gif and if there is some huge amount of people that can trace my ip, then i feel like im not safe anymore icon_question.gif
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Yup, you're under Dynamic or Static. ISP still have the chance to trace you out. If they wanted to. Even which computer you are using. Every computer have a unique ID. Whatever you did in the internet, It will be left a computer unique ID.

If P1 is under Static. It give some advantages to the people who wanna run a website or host game or even use your home computer to be a server.
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 22 2008, 12:00 AM)
Beware about the P1 IP address is fix IP address regarding the technical department.
It's not rechangeable during you relog your modem.
So, people can trace your foot step...


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:06 am

lol the fengsui master is the technician that come to your house to install the modem for you. brows.gif
P1 said that it is recomended that you hired their fengsui master to your house to ensure your reception of $$$. tongue.gif
So that you get high speed while using their service. biggrin.gif
The service price is RM80.00, applycable while register the pakages. tongue.gif
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P1 bs, suppose the W1MAX user friendly "they just need a proper guide to howto:enhanced the signal"

keep it simple, so my grandpa also know how to use, just plug-n-play rclxms.gif

fengsui master is only for DIGI laugh.gif opps out of topic

QUOTE(Acrisius @ Aug 22 2008, 01:10 AM)
Yup, you're under Dynamic or Static. ISP still have the chance to trace you out. If they wanted to. Even which computer you are using. Every computer have a unique ID. Whatever you did in the internet, It will be left a computer unique ID.

If P1 is under Static. It give some advantages to the people who wanna run a website or host game or even use your home computer to be a server.
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DDNS can do the same, imo prefer dynamic ip for home-user.
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 22 2008, 12:30 AM)
But while i ask the technical department of P1 they said is Personal and Business Pakages is fix IP. (regarding the Tecnical Department of P1)
Seem the Personal and Business Pakages same price is it better we get Business Pakages.
Mostly Business Pakages percentage get fix IP higher.
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Fix or Dynamic they are able to trace u back.
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Are you sure that the modem will get overheat so easily? Either way, for us jaring wireless, I've even tried letting my modem on for 1 month straight without any break.

Edit: No air-cond nth, just air from the outside as it is close to the window. The condition of the modem is still uber good smile.gif.



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QUOTE(Zepx @ Aug 22 2008, 08:10 AM)
Are you sure that the modem will get overheat so easily? Either way, for us jaring wireless, I've even tried letting my modem on for 1 month straight without any break.

Edit: No air-cond nth, just air from the outside as it is close to the window. The condition of the modem is still uber good smile.gif.
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No idea wor, i got saw some post at here mantion about over heated and they get paid 1500
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QUOTE(owc @ Aug 22 2008, 12:30 AM)
But while i ask the technical department of P1 they said is Personal and Business Pakages is fix IP. (regarding the Tecnical Department of P1)
Seem the Personal and Business Pakages same price is it better we get Business Pakages.
Mostly Business Pakages percentage get fix IP higher.
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Hearing this shows that they are bullshitting you already ... if they are unsure how they can say it's fix IP? Wah .. random one? By chance?

I don't think they will let you have fixed IP, unless you pay extra. Just that your IP doesn't change after you power off and power on, that doesn't mean it's fixed. Most of the time the IP assigned to you will be renew within 24 hours and the first priority will give you back the IP that is assigned to you previously. If you did not turn on your CPE for more than 24 hours and the IP has been assigned to someone else, then you will probably get a another new IP.

Just my 2 cents.

QUOTE(Zepx @ Aug 22 2008, 08:10 AM)
Are you sure that the modem will get overheat so easily? Either way, for us jaring wireless, I've even tried letting my modem on for 1 month straight without any break.

Edit: No air-cond nth, just air from the outside as it is close to the window. The condition of the modem is still uber good smile.gif.
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Try letting your modem on while doing heavy downloading for 1 month and see whether it will explode ... lol ... if you turn on without any traffic going thru i think should be okay, but if you turn it on for rigourous download then it might overheat. Same thing will happen to our router ... it will hang ...

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