Really ?. any source or link to backup your statement. I highly doubt they test BitTorrent traffic too.

Its Priority broadband and its not WiMax. Is it two different things. They still haven't updated their site yet. So for now , we will just have to wait and see

Hmm , looks like they might cap p2p afterall judging from this teaser. Empathize on Priority on traffic

Nah you gotta decode in a professionally manner. Its just a case as they have said that they will automatically pirotise the traffic. In other words , they can detect what sort of traffic is passing through and prioritise the packets automatically so that you'll continue to have optimal surfing speed , but at the sametime it can be used to throttle p2p application as well

Mind to provide some details qqstranger regarding the beta testing thingy.

i'll give it a shot as well. since its a free trial !

Wow this is great news. Signed up for the trial and I've managed to get some in-sight scoop on their WiMax service. My friend is using the service as we speak , he doesn't want to post any screenies as he said that there is some sort of agreement that prohibits trial users to publish information

1) They are providing you with an External IP Address (just like streamyx) (Maxis will be dead meat after this , thank you maxis). This allows you to host games , and it will work for p2p. Horray !

2) The modem seems to be really big and bulky. Guess its the first generation.

3) Just like most of the wireless service out there , latency seems to be somewhat consistent. The ping rates are way lower then HSDPA , but then its not consitent as streamyx. At one moment you can get 68ms , the other moment 110ms. But so far it doesn't exceed 120ms for local links which seems to be good.

4) Speed on the other hand seems to be good. YouTube streaming is superb and I am able to stream live P2P Streaming stuff. It works like a charm as well


I'll try to persuade that guy to allow me to post the traceroute results

I'll also try to post my own results tooo once i've managed to get my hands on it !

Yes , you get a Public IP Address. The IP range is 120.140.0.x - 124.141.0.x (I believe). The modem is a modem , you dont have to port forward if you have connected it directly to a PC !

Setapak , to be more precise - Jln Genting Klang (on top of the Kenny Rogers restaurant)


The nature of the technology itself


Honestly , your point doesn't make sense at all. TM provides a decent service so far with minor hiccups now and then. There isn't a single prefect iSP out there. IMO , you should opt for SDSL if you want more consistent speed. The more you pay , the better your service will be ! - But I do agree that TMnets service sucks. Heck , it even goes out to most of the ISPs out there here in Malaysia and Singapore !


They have implemented QoS. Meaning that they always have the rights to throttle your bandwidth which is good and bad. The good news is that you can still p2p , watch youtube , download files and surf without any hiccups. the bad news is that , your p2p downloads might be slower !

This post has been edited by prasys: Jul 30 2008, 09:02 AM

They will contact you if you are the chosen one !

Thread Cleaned and Merged

I've merged few similar threads into one and cleaned couple of smaller ones. So it will be easier for users to disuss on P1 WiMax Service !

Just a bit of housekeeping

Can you post on the configuration. I mean do you get an External IP and are the ports opened ?

Ports are blocked. Oh great , they are NATing just like Maxis and other things. That is bad. I think I'll stick with Streamyx. You sure that there is no way one can port forward ?

I guess P1 is just another Maxis Broadband in the making

lj0000, I hope you can run nmap for me to determine if Port 23 and Port 22 are opened. If SSH/Telnet is opened , we can take a look at the modem if we are able to port forward or not !

Nope. I wasn't selected but my friend is and he did not let me to test other then just the speed alone. It seems that its written there in the Terms of Agreement that the user shouldn't be allowed to publish such things

For an average user , nothing. For p2pers , it means heaven and it allows other computers to establish a direct connection with their pc which dramatically increases the speed. For gamers , it enables them to host games such as DOTA (Warcraft III) or your own Counter-Strike Server. For pro users , it allows their pc to act as a SSH Server , web server and a VNC server - which allows them to remote control their home computer. Lots of benefits

ISPs in Malaysia that offers Public IP with the ability to port forward - TM Streamyx , Jaring Wired/Wireless (jaring doesn't block any external port , Time Webbit Wireless Broadband and izzi



I hope you can conduct some tests later. Oh if you have MSN or any IM - I would love to get in touch with you - The reason is mainly to collect data and then write a report and publish it , so that it will be useful for other WiMax customers and other folks alike. I do have a couple of tools but you may have to download cygwin and run it - as most of it are meant for *nix platform. This to gather data on the modem and post more information about it

Its Linux for sure , port 80 in this case refers to apache/web service - that is meant for the web configuration and port 513 in this case is rlogin - remote login which is something like telnet and allows remote login , in other words it allows you to login remotely. But rlogin is rarely used these days as its not secure , I guess it will be used by p1 folks/support team to monitor or to perform upgrades or tweaking in the modem. This GIVES them full control over the modem/connection which is bad

I guess I'll have to stick with my trusty streamyx for now !

Yeah , its possible

I don't think that sort of technology exists in Malaysia. As far as I know for smartphones and other newer generation phones , you'll have to flash the firmware to upgrade manually and I don't think upgrades are done over the air. On the other hand , they can only upgrade their baseband of the tower to improve performance and other things. ASTRO is another subject , its because everything is controlled by them - even the programs , etc. They do know that there will be no adult shows or adult entertainment , shows which are sensitive to some ethnic groups and other things. So its okay with me if they have full control , as for Internet , its wide and there are no boundaries. So you can do whatever you would like to do and there is nobody to stop you. When I say its bad when the ISP has full control is that they can upgrade your frimware without you knowing , set rules and even block certain sites without you knowing. They have access to the modem , by right (which I believe) consumers should have the access to the modem as well as we are paying for the service , its a different case if we are renting the modem.

As for WiMax standardization , that is a different story. Our ISPs don't have the bandwidth and they love to oversell their bandwidth to make more profit. Like you have said they are interested in generating revenue rather then to obtain customer satisfaction , so thats their primary concern. It would be appropriate to set rules in CPE as well. If we do set rules , there is no way that a customer could bypass it , unless its by VPN. So now for them , they'll be saving bandwidth as they don't have to worry about users hogging bandwdith for p2p traffic and other things. This way they can hold more users and make them satisfied by offering superb speeds !

ISPs do have equipments and gadgets to do the task. Just upload the firmware to the base station and when the CPE checks for upgrades. It automatically downloads new set of rules without customers acknowledgment. That is how it basically works. As for TM , you do have lots of ways (free) to bypass their restriction , including enabling Packet Encryption , changing ports , using different bit torrent clients.

This is Malaysia. I don't think that our MSPs are into this sort of things as it would be a big issue , especially for coperate owners or those who are concerned about their privacy. Imagine if they implement such things it would be dangerous , I mean if they can upgrade your phone over the air. I am sure that they can steal your confidential information over the air as well. Things will be a lot more messier especially in the political arena !




I know that its possible in the CSN of WiMax Network , but our folks are taking one step further to configure in CPE's. After all consumers get the device reconfigured , all they just have to do is plug and play and it just works. If you are an average consumer ,you wouldn't be worrying too much about it , all you are looking for is something that just works out of the box - without hassles. Cellular market on the other hand is different , its like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe 10-20 years ago , it may be possible but in this very 21st century , uh ha think again




That is how you view things. As for me , I am not into Over the Air upgrades and other things. Personally , I would prefer if they just allowed the customer to configure his/her own equipment. But again its a subjective question and it can be questionable by anyone depending on how you view things.




How do you know that its not playing a part. Could you kindly explain more in details. IMO , the device runs linux and they have configured some set of QoS rules. I've studied it , and even some of my hypothesis have been proved

I'll skip the first question as its basically pointless to state my stance. Its up to the users , some prefer and others don't.


I am sure WiMax Device goes through a set of certification testing by the WiMax forum. I've tried searching for White papers for our P1 CPE Device but I didn't get to find any of it. I've tried asking their customer support team but they don't even know what is a white paper. I'll have to take a look at the White paper for this device before judging it fully , otherwise it would be hard for most geeks and technical folks out there to judge this device and how it operates and works !

IMO , i do know whats white paper all about

Anyway , it may sound funny but I've managed to get white papers from JARING on their SOMA Technology. Of course it was a tedious work , but thank god one of their technicians who called me up later knows what is exactly that I'm talking about. I've assumed the same for this case as well , and bam i got a slap in my face instead. It may sound absurd but you must understand that P1 doesn't disclose much more needed information on their CPE


This is bit interesting , after googling and looking up on the Web , it seems that the IEEE 802.16e Media Access Control (MAC) protocol in the R1 Interface. I admit it wasn't thought in the text books. It takes time to google up and learn this new techology

JARING has their own gateway as well , just FYI !