hmmm...
obviously UTAR has places where they can improve but im sure thats what they are doing in UTAR Perak..
dont worry, overcrowding is a thing of yesterday in UTAR Perak..
u can have class anytime and replacement anytime because the classroom is plenty not like other campus..

so to all who is coming 2 UTAR Perak in the MAY 08 intake, i welcome u and enjoy the life here...
i will see u soon..or u see me soon..
ahakzz...

Well when I first entered Setapak UTAR also got plenty of space.
Then all gone. All the space gone.

But i heard the utar in perak is less of facilities .. even the lecturer from Utar in sungai loong don wan to go there = = all quit teaching utar when thier are force to go there lolzzz ..

how sure are you that the lecturers quit due to the lack of facilities? some of the staff i know plan to quit when UTAR fully shifts to Kampar. This will happen eventually, but this is because they prefer working in KL or they have family here.

the facilities are here..
jz dat some are still all over in kl bcos there r still student there..
rite?
hmm..
actually, some quit bcos they heard d word kampar..
well..
its a small town..dat i assure u...
i come frm seremban n study here is like frm a big town 2 a small town...
it sucks bt wen u noe d area dy its like..
ok lar..
nt bad..
friendly ppl..
how often u c a stranger talk2 a student for d fun of it jz 2 create converstation...its like ZERO in kl rite?
i jz experience dat 2day n i was like..
kampar is much better ten city life..
trust me..
if not..come 2 d open day in kampar dis weekend

I'm from UTAR PJ, doing foundation studies lah. From my point of view, only those who can't get into local U or didn't study well in form 6 will come for foundation studies. Well, they can do better because some subjects we studied in foundation has already been touched during form six, so I don't think form 6 people will have any problem with it.

What I am unhappy with UTAR is, when we apply for foundation, we need to list out what degree we wanted to pursue, and they say we can change our degree course at the end of the foundation course. What they didn't tell us in the very beginning is, we need to pay RM300 to change the name of degree course we wrote down on the form 1 year ago. I find this is totally absurd. Just because they want to make sure we have a 'space' booked for us for degree and it cost RM300. There you go.

And to those who don't like Maths, Please do not choose Stream C, because we have General Maths for 2 semester, many people 'died' on the spot. That's why my current course have 3 classrooms only.

And I am very concern about WHEN am I going to Kampar. Some degree will be held there. And some will stay here for 1 or 2 years then only go to Kampar. They should at least list down the degree courses which will be held in Kampar for us. Not keep us guessing.

And I just called Westlake just now, Yale is fully booked now and Manchester's room is running out soon. I think UTAR and the Danish house thing 'pakat'. Why don't they just build a bridge across the lake? Why must we go around the lake? I hate the fact that we need to cycle everyday. And the distance is not very short. Perhaps it's just me. And I think PD block is nicer than UTAr Kampar itself.

Oh yea, Westlake laundry service is 4 times a month. And I heard Danish's laundry service is 8 times a month. Why I have the feeling that UTAR and KTAR never come together? Why must it be separated? I think I am crapping. Sigh, stressed la. Whenever I think about Kampar, my mood all gone. Sigh.

You can always opt to rent houses out there. There are plenty of housing areas there and I am sure there a lot rooms for rent. Dont be too wory about getting to the uni. They are getting around 20 new buses, so there would be plenty of buses ferrying students into Uni starting from this May.

Maths in foundation is easy...

try degree maths 1 and 2 and die on the spot.

I was afraid of Foundation math back then. I score A in both but a B in my Bioscience Math during my degree. Lol

goshhh..
ur like so anti- UTAR bt still study at UTAR..i wonder y?
so contradicting lar u words..
lol...
the current houses are running out..bt they are rushing the new 1 already where d workers work nearly 24hours a day to complete it..
who says u nit 2 cycle..
u can jz bring ur motorbike IF u have 1..
u can bring ur car IF u have 1 also...
or y not jz pay the 70cents fare for the bus..
mayb if u cant, jz walk there..
the lake is meant2 b there...
v all have tot of the bridge thing..bt its useless..
jz let tings b n njoy kampar..
at1st u might tink it sucks, bt afta some time u will love it so how...

Should i go to UTAR when my course which is Mechanical Engineering is not even accredited b BEM/IEM/MQA? If its not accredited that means i cant even borrow ptptn for my course right? frus n tired of uni stuffs..

y local uni had to announce their freaking admission result so late......

Why not?

Even if its not accredited, job is readily available for you if you have the skills and competence. UTAR has a good rapport when it comes to its graduates. As said by my lecturers, the employee's perception of UTAR's graduate is fairly positive.

This post has been edited by db07mufan: Apr 10 2008, 08:32 PM

Bloody hell.... i don't know how many times must i repeat this...
MECHANICAL ENGINEERING IS NOT YET ACCREDITED BY BEM/IEM/MQA... They can only do it this year end, when the last batch of the mechanical engineering students graduate....

And now, with the new president which is also the vice president for IEM, you tell me, will Mechanical Engineering be accredited by BEM / IEM / MQA ?

ISH!

Not to be condescending, but i think he hasn't got any bloody clue on what's happening

PTPTN loan as far as i'm concern is viable for all UTAR courses. I've heard people said that even the approval chances of the loan is higher if you're studying in UTAR.

All course accredition are currently ongoing, mind you UTAR is only a few years old and accredition takes time.

As long as you dont FAIL your semester, and you have valid proof of your parents income, you can apply for PTPTN. I never applied thou, but I knew a lot about PTPTN because 90% of my friends got it.

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Added on April 10, 2008, 9:46 pmHeck, even my course Biochemistry, is not approved yet. Why ? Because next sem would be the first batch of students to enter their final semester. By then only the MQA officer will come, do their assestment, interview some of the lecturers and students and bla bla bla, before giving UTAR the accrediation for the course Biochemistry

This post has been edited by Akane: Apr 10 2008, 09:46 PM

Don't worry about PTPTN bcoz, all utar subject is applicable for PTPTN... and don't worry is it accredited o not, cause if u work in private company, they wont care so much, unless you going to apply government job.

but i'm curious, y all PJ campus student suffer while other campus is not bad, what an unfair. PJ is main campus? what a bad place.

Y must everyone say UTAR is good? did u think b4 some priviledges is belong to us, we should fight for it, and not juz only say yes to it. We have our own right to request for what we want.

1)
I admit that 190 rent (kampar) is cheap if compare to KL. but dun try do calculation wif me. I can briefly explain to you.
Comparing to KL, 190 is called very cheap. But 190 rent in Kampar is considered high, according to land revaluation and survey on Kampar that area, the rent for a single storey house which is 22*65 (3 room 1 bathroom) should be around 400 per month. If you compare the rent back to Kampar own area, the rent is considered high. some more Kampar which is considered as a rural area should not achieve that high rent. Mayb KL is expensive, but it is capital of our country.

2)
Utar admin is doing work by those moz easy way. first, they do as wat LAN say. LAN say what then they do wat.
Did you ever comparing those subject in a course between UTAR and others. You will know that UTAR is wasting first year for nothing for moz of subject.

3)
UTAR buses mayb increases. But why don't you juz build a bridge in KAMPAR. It is moz jimat than using buses in long term. Y use bus? UTAR
earn money.... Buses increases does not mean that u will get buses in every half hour.

UTAR student mostly will face tis problem. class at 12 am. But the last bus is at 9.30. so how? take 930 bus and waste time in school. Did it worth?
Then ppl will say buy motor buy car la. Then i wan ask, if they build bridge, walk also can reach la. If the housing area is not owned by that construction company, then did we nid to walk so far? Did UTAR really fight something better from us? or juz keep earning money?

4)
Did you heard before UTAR president son come here study? where he get his benz S class which is worth for 7 digit? is from our money

5)
UTAR PJ PD block currently financial situation :
Calculation of UTAR degree year 1 student : 1 group 20 student, average value for group is 44.
44 group X 20 student X 3800 fee per person for 1 sem (3 month) = 3344000.

Cost of UTAR operate :
Building rental : 100000 for 3 month
Electricity and water : 30000 for 3 month
Administritive expenses : 180000 for 3 month
Lecturer : 450000 for 3 month
Other expenses : 100000 for 3 month
Don't say about renovation, bcoz UTAR PD nvr renovate

Total revenue for every 3 month : 2484000
NOTE : THIS IS ONLY AMOUNT OF REVENUE FOR YEAR 1 DEGREE STUDENT for UTAR PD BLOCK ONLY.

If you add up 3 year studnet in PJ PD BLOCK, then add with PJ PA PB PC student. THEN add with SETAPAK and SG LONG. THEN YOU WILL Know how much they earn.

And such high revenue. yet still create a low standard environment, low standard of lecturer + teaching method. Where does our money go?
Their pocket. And now you still don't want fight for your right and get what you suppose to get?

If they unable to give a good quality. THEN UTAR shouldn't become a spoiler. UTAR gives us choice and hope. but they break your dream hope after you come in. IF THIS IS THE WAY, i rather suffer in PUBLIC UNIVERSITI.

mphpopular,
come to UTAR Perak Campus and i'm sure that you'll take back your words. anyway, i'm wondering how did you get the amount of the operating cost of UTAR.

i quite agree wit mphpopular mentions..
we did pay the fee's and we do have our own right to request for what we want.
So far what i have seen..Kampar's lecturer was so so onli..their english ain't so gud..so when the lecturers teach during lessons cause the student don't quite understand what they teaching

ya. i agree with you in this case. i'm facing this problem too.

i think tis is the main problem with utar lecturer.. They are master degree holder, sometimes i still wondering why their english is so bad, no offense, but yea.. its too bad until the student, sometimes cannot get what the lecturer is trying to tell.. Some are improving year by year.. but some i can see.. all the same.. .. i'm in PA tho..