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CaptWong
post Apr 13 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Apr 13 2008, 03:25 AM)
I'm sorry to interupt guys but no one answered my question..hope you guys dun mind
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I don't know how to answer your question, as i'm not an engineering student yet, but after my foundation year, i will be doing Mechanical Engineering too..

From my previous researches about Mechanical Engineering in UTAR, i would say that the equipments are ENOUGH for students to do their practical, and i do believe that those equipments will be upgraded too in the immediate future, as we have a new president that knows alot about engineering, so i believe that he will bring UTAR's engineering to a higher level and standard..

Accredition vise, i don't think so this is a problem, again, our new president is the vice president for IEM, so i think he will know that what should UTAR do in order to get accreditions for it's engineering courses..

Lecturer vise, i've actually contacted an associate professor from FES ( Faculty of Engineering and Science ), and from his statement, he told me that we have quite a number of lecturers whose name are well known in the engineering industry, he gave me a few examples of the name, but LOL, how can a foundation student like me know so much about their names? And he also told me that there will be quite a number of "top guns" lecturers in Malaysia that are about to join UTAR this year, if i am not mistaken, a number of them are from Monash University, and also other reputated universities, yeah.. so i would say that we are quite lucky to have them.

hehe, i know that i emphasize alot on the new president, but that's just my opinion lah.. I really hope that my opinion does help your friend. All the best~

Sorry if i am not helping anything.. LOL..
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Apr 12 2008, 01:24 PM)
Whats the feedback for mechanical eng in UTAR? My friend is interested to go ther... just an inquiry for my friend who's not a LYN member...
So i hope you can help me out.
My friend completed a diploma in telecommunications eng in MMU and is working...so he missed the intakes.

But he would like to start coll around may coz he's just finished bonding with his company
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Erm, as they said, i anti UTAR. so i juz like to comment on some la.

Equipment UTAR setapak sure is enough for all. But if i say the news le. people will say again, i anti utar la, say this all happen everywhere la.

So, i say it in middle view, my fren now in degree year 1 sem 2, they're facing a problem whereby as following :

Some machinery is cost more than 10k, when doing the practical, practical lecturer demand the student to buy a lab manual for themselve, and told them, refer to lab manual. ( this is very common )

But half of the semester have pass thru, and the practical lecturer havent teach anything yet. One student pass the lab manual to lecturer ( cause lecturer don't have lab manual ) and ask him to explain for them.
Studnet : Sir, i know you don't have lab manual, you also nonid to do the practical, we only nid you to explain how to do.
Sir : Erm, ( reading and reading ) this practical thing, u refer to lab manual la. all is inside.

Studnet all conclusion : the lecturer is scare the machine will break down and nid to pay for it? or the lecturer duno do it at all?

This is one of the incident, so i hope this is not the whole of UTAR.

By the way, find more mechanical enginering studnet in UTAR to ask, it would be the best.
But if you want me to introduce some, better don't, cause all my fren in UTAR is "anti utar" juz like me.
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post Apr 13 2008, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(mphpopular @ Apr 13 2008, 10:30 PM)
Erm, as they said, i anti UTAR. so i juz like to comment on some la.

Equipment UTAR setapak sure is enough for all. But if i say the news le. people will say again, i anti utar la, say this all happen everywhere la.

So, i say it in middle view, my fren now in degree year 1 sem 2, they're facing a problem whereby as following :

Some machinery is cost more than 10k, when doing the practical, practical lecturer demand the student to buy a lab manual for themselve, and told them, refer to lab manual. ( this is very common )

But half of the semester have pass thru, and the practical lecturer havent teach anything yet. One student pass the lab manual to lecturer ( cause lecturer don't have lab manual ) and ask him to explain for them.
Studnet : Sir, i know you don't have lab manual, you also nonid to do the practical, we only nid you to explain how to do.
Sir : Erm, ( reading and reading ) this practical thing, u refer to lab manual la. all is inside.

Studnet all conclusion : the lecturer is scare the machine will break down and nid to pay for it? or the lecturer duno do it at all?

This is one of the incident, so i hope this is not the whole of UTAR.

By the way, find more mechanical enginering studnet in UTAR to ask, it would be the best.
But if you want  me to introduce some, better don't, cause all my fren in UTAR is "anti utar" juz like me.
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sweat.gif Please dont be immature and merajuk ppl say you seem to be anti-UTAR la. We are just asking you to see things as a whole and not focus only on the bad side, or based on limited views.

I will try and find out if i have friends studying ME to confirm this. However, as far as i know, based on bioscience courses, the part of the lecturer being afraid that the machine will break down and need to pay for the repairs are baseless. Lecturers are humans too, they do understand that there is no point purchasing expensive equipment and not using it. Most machines used in bioscience courses dont come cheap either. They do allow the students to use the machines, but of course, telling them to use it carefully according to the manual/instructions.

So one thing that i can confirm, this doesnt happen to the whole of UTAR.
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post Apr 14 2008, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(SuN_RaE198 @ Apr 13 2008, 10:51 PM)
sweat.gif Please dont be immature and merajuk ppl say you seem to be anti-UTAR la. We are just asking you to see things as a whole and not focus only on the bad side, or based on limited views.

I will try and find out if i have friends studying ME to confirm this. However, as far as i know, based on bioscience courses, the part of the lecturer being afraid that the machine will break down and need to pay for the repairs are baseless. Lecturers are humans too, they do understand that there is no point purchasing expensive equipment and not using it. Most machines used in bioscience courses dont come cheap either. They do allow the students to use the machines, but of course, telling them to use it carefully according to the manual/instructions.

So one thing that i can confirm, this doesnt happen to the whole of UTAR.
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At least we the Bioscience student has been using some of the most expensive machine in our lab. Compared to some private college, they dont even allow the student to touch it. Lol. Sun Rae, I guess you knew about it since I told you before. No comment about Engineering course since I am not an Engineering student. Let the Engineering student themselves to clarify this matter. If yes, then ask them to report to the dean ! Since he is one of ME lecturer also wert. Lol.
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post Apr 14 2008, 04:58 PM

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I just came back from Kampar.

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I HATE KAMPAR!!!!!!
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post Apr 14 2008, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(kmhork87 @ Apr 1 2008, 06:49 PM)
hey..
dont think UTAR as a place for STPM drop out..
xpensive?
i highly doubt it because of d facility they provide in the university is high class
the degree is depending on what course u take..not all course is 3years as u noe..

yes i can say its xpensive for renting a room near the university BUT u must noe..its including security,laundry,electric bill,water bill,internet bill..
rm 190 for twin sharing is perfectly fine compare2 kl..right?

the degree graduate is up2 standard with other university's available..
so pls...dont judge a book by its cover..
dont blive come n 2 UTAR KAMPAR,PERAK open day then u will noe..
btw im a student of UTAR KAMPAR PERAK
pls feel free 2 pm about anyth...
i have pics to prove UTAR KAMPAR is a gd place
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yeah , i agree tat kampar is a good place ,
but try to come and see pj campus ....

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post Apr 14 2008, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 14 2008, 04:58 PM)
I just came back from Kampar.

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I HATE KAMPAR!!!!!!
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why do you hate it?
i went there yesterday..campus is pretty new.. didnt have the chance to go round it..it was so HOT...(temperature whistling.gif )
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post Apr 14 2008, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(youliang @ Apr 14 2008, 06:27 PM)
why do you hate it?
i went there yesterday..campus is pretty new.. didnt have the chance to go round it..it was so HOT...(temperature whistling.gif )
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he hates it because it's a boring town. with nearly no entertainment like KL, for sure Kampar is a terrible place especially for those who've already get used to the lifestyle in big cities.
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(LYR @ Apr 14 2008, 08:28 PM)
he hates it because it's a boring town. with nearly no entertainment like KL, for sure Kampar is a terrible place especially for those who've already get used to the lifestyle in big cities.
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halo! I'm a girl!

I complain!

I went to westlake. they told me that i can't pay for the deposit anymore. 'coz they dun have enough rooms now. so building them 24/7 now. and I have to stay in classic house. means the hostel at ktar for at least 3 months! Rm140 for 1 single room. Then now the distance is far more worst than from utar itself.

The room's price gone up. The single room is RM295 now. And the room is so god damn small!

I don't care about the view, i Don't care about the mountain and tasik. I just hate that place!
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:30 AM

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I guess you don't have the choice for it... Because the UTAR intake got many people.... for me, i prefer choose classic house better than westlake there. A lot of place to makan arround TARC. whistling.gif
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Hi everyone here.
I can see there is a big fight(ok, I mean debate. tongue.gif ) happening here but please allow me to ask some questions. blush.gif

One of my friends has applied for the May 2008 intake and he is offered to enrol in Computer Engineering degree course at Kampar campus. From the information I get, the course belongs to FICT (Faculty of Information and Communication Technology) instead of FES (Faculty of Engineering and Science).

May I know why is it so? I thought Computer Engineering is something similiar to Electrical/Electronice Engineering but it focus more on computer systems? My friend feels worry about that because he didn't know the course is about IT instead of Engineering.

He also heard some rumors saying the courses in FICT are some "not so popular" courses, can anyone clarify this? I doubt it is true but I can't confirm it.

And also,

He plans to apply for course change to Electronic Engineering, will there be any minor/major problem? His main concern is about PTPTN loan, time needed for the process and the success rate.)

I hope I can get some replies from UTAR students soon as my friend is like... over-nervous? lol~
Thank you~ smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 15 2008, 12:23 AM)
halo! I'm a girl!

I complain!

I went to westlake. they told me that i can't pay for the deposit anymore. 'coz they dun have enough rooms now. so building them 24/7 now. and I have to stay in classic house. means the hostel at ktar for at least 3 months! Rm140 for 1 single room. Then now the distance is far more worst than from utar itself.

The room's price gone up. The single room is RM295 now. And the room is so god damn small!

I don't care about the view, i Don't care about the mountain and tasik. I just hate that place!
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I thought you have sign contract with them ?

QUOTE(FreakyFreak22 @ Apr 15 2008, 12:33 AM)
Hi everyone here.
I can see there is a big fight(ok, I mean debate.  tongue.gif ) happening here but please allow me to ask some questions.  blush.gif

One of my friends has applied for the May 2008 intake and he is offered to enrol in Computer Engineering degree course at Kampar campus. From the information I get, the course belongs to FICT (Faculty of Information and Communication Technology) instead of FES (Faculty of Engineering and Science).

May I know why is it so? I thought Computer Engineering is something similiar to Electrical/Electronice Engineering but it focus more on computer systems? My friend feels worry about that because he didn't know the course is about IT instead of Engineering.

He also heard some rumors saying the courses in FICT are some "not so popular" courses, can anyone clarify this? I doubt it is true but I can't confirm it.

And also,

He plans to apply for course change to Electronic Engineering, will there be any minor/major problem? His main concern is about PTPTN loan, time needed for the process and the success rate.)

I hope I can get some replies from UTAR students soon as my friend is like... over-nervous? lol~
Thank you~  smile.gif
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Oh, I have no idea also. But so far, all computer related courses are under FICT.


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post Apr 15 2008, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 15 2008, 12:23 AM)
halo! I'm a girl!

I complain!

I went to westlake. they told me that i can't pay for the deposit anymore. 'coz they dun have enough rooms now. so building them 24/7 now. and I have to stay in classic house. means the hostel at ktar for at least 3 months! Rm140 for 1 single room. Then now the distance is far more worst than from utar itself.

The room's price gone up. The single room is RM295 now. And the room is so god damn small!

I don't care about the view, i Don't care about the mountain and tasik. I just hate that place!
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ok. the rental has gone up since January of this year. this is inevitable since demand is more than supply now. i'm also complaining too but no point, we have no choice unless you stay outside.

QUOTE(FreakyFreak22 @ Apr 15 2008, 12:33 AM)
Hi everyone here.
I can see there is a big fight(ok, I mean debate.  tongue.gif ) happening here but please allow me to ask some questions.  blush.gif

One of my friends has applied for the May 2008 intake and he is offered to enrol in Computer Engineering degree course at Kampar campus. From the information I get, the course belongs to FICT (Faculty of Information and Communication Technology) instead of FES (Faculty of Engineering and Science).

May I know why is it so? I thought Computer Engineering is something similiar to Electrical/Electronice Engineering but it focus more on computer systems? My friend feels worry about that because he didn't know the course is about IT instead of Engineering.

He also heard some rumors saying the courses in FICT are some "not so popular" courses, can anyone clarify this? I doubt it is true but I can't confirm it.

And also,

He plans to apply for course change to Electronic Engineering, will there be any minor/major problem? His main concern is about PTPTN loan, time needed for the process and the success rate.)

I hope I can get some replies from UTAR students soon as my friend is like... over-nervous? lol~
Thank you~  smile.gif
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Computer Engineering is under FICT. for course transfer, the success rate is quite high indeed and it usually takes less than 1 month to process.

This post has been edited by LYR: Apr 15 2008, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(LYR @ Apr 15 2008, 01:07 AM)
ok. the rental has gone up since January of this year. this is inevitable since demand is more than supply now. i'm also complaining too but no point, we have no choice unless you stay outside.
Computer Engineering is under FICT. for course transfer, the success rate is quite high indeed and it usually takes less than 1 month to process.
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If you have good grades, and have taken subjects related to EE, of course you can get the course relatively easily.
There is always a very tight competition for places in FES as there is a limited number for the number of students for each course.
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erm, if i not mistaken, westlake already full right? is it mean both manchester & yale too? and i already book the on the progress one, but they say they'll increase the rate? how much is it? and they will let us stay at flat hostel nearby tarc for temporary, can elaborate more about that? alot people stay there? is classic house or danish house? anyone already stay there already? is the internet ready? anyone going to stay there? because i looking for some friends rather than be a stranger.


Added on April 15, 2008, 11:10 am
QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 11 2008, 10:34 PM)
I can get a house with 1 HUGE master room attached with bathroom, 1 medium room, 2 single room all attached with bathroom and 1 HUGE living room and a BIG kitchen for RM400 through an agent.

Then my friend found the exact same type of house for RM250 only. Just that without ceiling fans. Haiya. But my mum insisted that I should stay in Westlake. Westlake is such a rip off! Expensive and We can only wash our clothes  once per week? Absurd!

And not to forget about the parking space in UTAR Kampar! I heard that we have to pay RM300 per year and Rm200 Per year in Westlake. Though I don't have a car, just find it ridiculous!

The distance to school, the westlake homes, the far away from town issue, the management and the stupid guards which wouldn't let us in even we have our student id. They say there will be more bus but I doubt. Even in PJ area, we don't have much bus anyway. I doubt there will be 20 buses as people claims as it should be.


Added on April 11, 2008, 10:46 pmSo sad lah, at the same time unhappy with UTAR, but no other choices. I know many people will say, you don't like UTAR then go to LKW, INTI, Taylors, Sunway etc. etc. lah!

If i got the money I will be there lah. KDU foundation course is Rm14,000 overall. But UTAR is RM7000. BUT! UTAR increase from RM4000 to RM7000. You Judge.

I even have a lecturer who claims that UTAR foundation course is there for a 'good will'. She say she don't earn much and UTAR don't earn much from Foundation studies. But they still have this course because they want to 'help' students out.

By looking at the calculation above, I see they do earn very very much. From PA, PB, PC, PD and added a new PE. Actually we have 2 PE, but now they rent a new one beside PD block.

Where all the money comes from lah?

Yes, I do admit I dislike Kampar because it's a kampung place. You can say I am selfish and I wanna play around in city places instead of really studying in Kampar.

Hello, don't gimme such bullsh-t ok? Study for degree doesn't mean have to turn yourself into jailbird and pay unnecessary price for such outcome.

I am just unhappy, that's all.
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there's nothing perfection in this world, everything still beyond your hands, is the matter of the way you think, and you always have the choice to decide.

please don't rely on the laundry, absolutely your clothes spoiler, i rather wash myself.

ya, totaly agree with you about the guard, but i just ignore them, why need to spoilt our own mood just because a guard?

since when utar foundation only rm4000? my nephew last year study also rm5800 only for tuition fees.

no one in this world would like to do a failure business, to be realistic, so, i had no objection in this, at least they still provide an option for me pursue my tertiary education.

ya, kampar is quite a boring place, compared to my place, but overall i think the surrounding is really good for studying, what for if we go study then can enjoy but in the end got kicked off? and it's not free, it burned alot RMxxK cash too,

mostly few option to enjoy is mamak or cybercafe, want more entertainment? then go to ipoh.

and yet this is my own opinion, so no offense ok? cheers

This post has been edited by eternity4av: Apr 15 2008, 11:44 AM
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they told me the same thing. I have to go to classic house at ktar side. for at least 3 months! say got utar bus but I am still skeptical.

Still have to pay deposit after they informed you. Now the single room is RM295! such a rip off! sign contract for 1 year at that time. And they do not provide internet connection for half year. They say the moment you move in, half year don't have streamyx. do the math yourself.

shit place.
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QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 15 2008, 12:23 AM)
halo! I'm a girl!

I complain!

I went to westlake. they told me that i can't pay for the deposit anymore. 'coz they dun have enough rooms now. so building them 24/7 now. and I have to stay in classic house. means the hostel at ktar for at least 3 months! Rm140 for 1 single room. Then now the distance is far more worst than from utar itself.

The room's price gone up. The single room is RM295 now. And the room is so god damn small!

I don't care about the view, i Don't care about the mountain and tasik. I just hate that place!
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ya, same case for me too, but there will be bus provided right? need to buy the ticket 70cents from don't know which department, can someone clarify? forgotten, RM295, if still got, i'll take no matter what, rather than sunway univercity college apartment so less square feet but RM1700 per month.


Added on April 15, 2008, 11:31 am
QUOTE(sevenheaven @ Apr 15 2008, 11:20 AM)
they told me the same thing. I have to go to classic house at ktar side. for at least 3 months! say got utar bus but I am still skeptical.

Still have to pay deposit after they informed you. Now the single room is RM295! such a rip off! sign contract for 1 year at that time. And they do not provide internet connection for half year. They say the moment you move in, half year don't have streamyx. do the math yourself.

shit place.
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you alone? got friend? my sister house still got place i think? but classic house got internet already right? then, stay there until got internet better,

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post Apr 15 2008, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(LYR @ Apr 15 2008, 01:07 AM)
ok. the rental has gone up since January of this year. this is inevitable since demand is more than supply now. i'm also complaining too but no point, we have no choice unless you stay outside.
Computer Engineering is under FICT. for course transfer, the success rate is quite high indeed and it usually takes less than 1 month to process.
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QUOTE(Akane @ Apr 15 2008, 02:42 AM)
If you have good grades, and have taken subjects related to EE, of course you can get the course relatively easily.
There is always a very tight competition for places in FES as there is a limited number for the number of students for each course.
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Oh, thanks for the info.
So that means course transfer shouldn't be a problem.
How about the rumors of the courses in FICT are non-popular courses, i.e. courses for science students who can't enter FES?
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QUOTE(FreakyFreak22 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:43 AM)
Oh, thanks for the info.
So that means course transfer shouldn't be a problem.
How about the rumors of the courses in FICT are non-popular courses, i.e. courses for science students who can't enter FES?
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Frankly speaking, those who enter FES are average or above average student. Unless you met all requirements, the chances are slim. Especially these days when FES is so cramp and they narrow down the number of students taken in for each course. Hence, only the best of the best will be selected in. But there is no harm trying. If your friend is a qualified one, I am sure they will take him/her in.



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i've been offered biomedical science in UTAR,
but i dont know if it is recognized and whether it is good or not...
i'm soooooo troubled...
give me some advises plz...
can any senior from this course share ur stories???

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