IIANM, the foundation course does provide English subjects as well. Equivalent to MUET at least. And I have friend who failed their English and have to resit the paper. Hence, its never easy.

why care abt those who can't speak proper english? if u have taken both stpm and muet, u are having an edge over those students. juz like what my fren said, those who score and do well in degree programme mostly are stpm-grads

I thought that Lecturer shuld have at least a Master Degree in order to teach Degree Student...

Haha. Cant agree more. But I do see some brilliant SPM students who are beating STPM and A Levels students in degree level. So, in the end its all down to yourself. You work hard, you will do well.

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Added on April 6, 2008, 4:27 amA lecturer normally at least posses a Master Degree or higher. But depending on course, some course might opt for a degree holder with experience. In FES, all lecturers must have a Master Degree or higher. Degree holder would only qualify as Practical Assistant/ Lab Tutor and most of the time these PA are postgrad students.

This post has been edited by Akane: Apr 6 2008, 04:27 AM

just a question here. according to the counsellor, i need to do a foundation in arts in order to pursue a degree in information technology. i thought it should be a science foundation? hmm?

I'm not sure about information technology, but as i know, for actuarial science, you can take foundation arts or foundation science, it doesn't matter.

Bcoz for foundation science, u wil study such as,
Chemis 1, chemis 2
Physic 1, physic 2
math 1, math 2
webpage, programming
management, economic.

But foundation is juz to prepare you towards University life, the whole foundation is let you earn general knowledge more, bcoz when u pursuing your degree, you not studying other not related subject anymore.

As you can study foundation arts, i strongly recommend you go forward.

Reasons, ratio of girls in arts is around 1:1, the life happier there.

science, around 10:1, it would be a suffering. Studying wif girl made a better result. they appeared hardworking (not all la)

I'm a foundation student mah... not degree yet... those are foundation lecturers.. but most of them have masters already lah.

all my lecturers so far have at least a master degree
and couldn't agree with u more about the brilliant spm students part, there is one student in my course (from foundation) pwn me kau kau, could not match with her at all

Then that's weird. As far as i know, most universities requires MUET in order to graduate or to enrol in public U's (correct me if i am wrong) but UTAR is somehow ambiguous about this. My friend who managed to score only band 3 for his MUET was puzzled when he was told by UTAR that he needs band 4 to get into a management course. Or he will require to take an english subject from UTAR but my other friends who are from foundation need not take MUET and they are in degree now and their english can really kill your ears. MUET is supposed to be a standard examination for Malaysian's U's and how can UTAR gauge someone's english using their own system or examination? Just a question, dont flame me yea.. I just wanna clear my doubts

in short, lets just say u need MUET in order to graduate regardless of what qualification u hav to enrol at 1st

Herm. Good point you have there. But isnt it the same thing that is happening in universities that offer their own Foundation Program. Most of them require only SPM level English for entrance straight into Foundation. Then, they will do their English courses provided by the University during their foundation years, pass it and get into the degree level.

But MUET itself is not enough to judge a person efficiency in English. I have plenty of friends who obtained band 5 in MUET but cant even string a sentence properly. Is either the system used by MUET is weak or they must be blardy lucky to obtain band 5.

I am in my final year of UTAR.
And I can tell you, got money go other universities.

UTAR is not bad, but not good either.
They literary cram people in my FES campus.
Well they want to earn more money = accept more students = congested.

UTAR's library isn't that well equipped, but still ok.

Just remember, UTAR is just so-so only. Not bad, but not good either.

Plus if you are going to Setapak FES, the only sports activity they offer in the campus is table tennis.

There would be only 1 last intake in FES Setapak. After this, starting from Jan 2009, all FES student will be diverted to Kampar campus. I dont think you will face overcrowded issue in main campus considering the size of the campus itself.

Oh great, that means i'll be in the final batch then! Coming soon this May....

Bro, i love ur words. i support you, i think it should be the same thing happen in PJ. too crowded. 120 sttudent stuck inside a class where only can fit in 100 people. and it continues for a semester, complaint maded, but nothing changes.

By the way, I truely wish UTAR will be able to perform better in KAMPAR, at least there is a new campus.



I not coming out from form 6 either. But i truely believe that form 6 got alot good english speaker as well. But y some cannot fight with UTAR foundation?

Utar foundation students got alot of presentation every semester, they have more experience than mUET student. Not for all MUET la.

Fro example, my bro, 2nd semester, they have 3 presentation for public speaking and so on. i think around 5 presentation. This is wehreby differences from MUET student.

Tat y i saw when alot of MUET went into UNI degree first sem, they tend to worry for the presentation wherby foudation student already get used to it. It takes time for MUET to take experience

This post has been edited by mphpopular: Apr 7 2008, 11:53 AM

But still, you might get shifted away during 201x. Depend on what course you are doing. Once the labs are ready in Kampar, new students are required to go there. The labs there are more well equiped I would say, but definitely not everyone loves Kampar. Lol.

This post has been edited by Akane: Apr 7 2008, 12:05 PM

yeap, i'll be in Kampar for my final 2 years. I wished it could be earlier though. Would like to experience a more laid-back lifestyle rather than the hustle bustle likes of Setapak.

so you are in Setapak FES already?
Haha I will be there until this week, then exam then bye byeeeeee

nope! Finishing my foundation this week then exams. Then chau to FES in MAY

Haha. Might meet you for the Orientation then. There are a lot FES-er posting on the UTAR Thread in Kopitiam. Feel free to ask them anything if you have any problems.