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CaptWong
post Apr 5 2008, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(R3D_D3vilz @ Apr 2 2008, 09:15 PM)
Is mechanical engineering course offered in utar kampar now?
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Well. Not Yet... I am a "foundation in science leading to mechanical engineering" student... But Mechanical engineering will be available at Kampar at year 2010.. This year and next year will still remain at Setapak.. They need time to move those engineering equipments..


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QUOTE(mphpopular @ Apr 1 2008, 06:29 PM)
For a stpm student, if you household not generating a high monthly income, and your result not as well as you expect, and public Uni do not give wat you want.

At laz, what choice do you have except UTAR.

Why UTAR?
- fees cheap
- 3 years for degree
- choice less
- the one and only sound nice bcoz named University

Ppl often ask me, why dun KTAR?
- SPM student will still going for ktar, bcoz 2year diploma, 2 year advance diploma
- but STPM student hav no choice, imposible you wan them after spending 2 years for form 6, now spending 4 more years for advanced diploma?
- lastly, STPM willl go for UTAR

Am i a supporter of UTAR? no no no
I juz wan to let u know, UTAR is not as good as you think also.

You know what happened to foundation new intake student? last year is rm 4000 ++ for foudation studies, this year bcome rm 7000++, our inflation rates also did not exceed 100%, but UTAR inflation already gone until 90%, scary.

Don't expect UTAR having a olympic size swimming pool like KTAR or other colleges, the cocuriculum activity can be considered 0, what you willl saw is those, maths society, english society etc.

The worse thing, Utar degree year 3 student (havent graduate) but teaching utar foundation students?

Equipment like classroom o mic o sound system, broken.

Juz to let you know all this, but you still can choose for it, cause i heard they are building a new campus in KAMPAR.
But heard ppl said they pakat wif the construction company, cause all the house beside the UTAR kampar is belong to the construction company, and there only for rent, and expensive.

Anyone ex student UTAR can come and giv more better opinion, maybe i only saw the negative sides of UTAR....
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Yo dude.... long complaints here huh...
ok first of all.. "SPM student will still going for ktar, bcoz 2year diploma, 2 year advance diploma"
Yo dude, you are now receiving a reply from a SPM student who is currently pursuing his foundation study in UTAR..

Secondly, rising fees?? hmm... i would say if you bro is studying in UTAR, he is receiving a quality education with a very very affordable price already...and please.. you can actually compare UTAR's foundation fees with other universities' foundation fees, and let me know what do you think about UTAR's foundation fees again biggrin.gif

Nextly, olympic size swimming pool? what makes you think we are not going to have that? dude, Kampar campus is still undergoing developments and constructions!!! No sane person would put 1300 acres of land into a waste!! and oh ya... I am now a proud member of UTAR music club which have just organized "celebrity night" last week... hmm.. tell me more about "the cocuriculum activity can be considered 0"

Equpiment like classroom o mic o sound system broken... yes.. this i have to admit... however, i think this problem only occurs in PJ campus... However, one thing you can see from this "broken PA system" is that the lecturers still try very hard to teach us without the presence of PA system.. they shouted so loud until they had sorethroats the next day.. Now i guess this has shown the lecturer quality of UTAR biggrin.gif ( oh ya, this PA broken thingy does not occur everyday, maybe you are that unfortune to so happen to see this at the day you come )

LOL? UTAR degree year 3 student teaching foundation student?? where did you hear this from?? as far as i know, all my lecturers now have at least a degree qualification.. and most of them have their masters already... one of them is even doing her PhD now... and i would say that they are very dedicated lecturers.. Most lecturers encourage us to seek consultation hours with them if we do not understand their lectures..

Er... about the forming collusion with construction company thingy... Why don't you see it in this way... UTAR is actually helping students to get their accomodations easily.. The whole row of houses are only for students.. I sense some great campus life here.. MY GOD! you said that the rentals are expensive?! Obviously, i think you didn't have any experience on renting house yet.. enough said...

That's all i have to say.. If you do not agree on what i've said... feel free to reply my post.. I love to reply to critics about UTAR... coz in this way, i can practise my english and writing skills and i can also defend my university which is a place that i strongly recommend others to come to get their tertiary education..

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post Apr 6 2008, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Apr 6 2008, 04:19 AM)
I thought that Lecturer shuld have at least a Master Degree in order to teach Degree Student...
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I'm a foundation student mah... not degree yet... those are foundation lecturers.. but most of them have masters already lah.
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post Apr 10 2008, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(endrylim @ Apr 10 2008, 07:51 PM)
Should i go to UTAR when my course which is Mechanical Engineering is not even accredited b BEM/IEM/MQA? If its not accredited that means i cant even borrow ptptn for my course right? frus n tired of uni stuffs..

y local uni had to announce their freaking admission result so late......
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Bloody hell.... i don't know how many times must i repeat this...
MECHANICAL ENGINEERING IS NOT YET ACCREDITED BY BEM/IEM/MQA... They can only do it this year end, when the last batch of the mechanical engineering students graduate....

And now, with the new president which is also the vice president for IEM, you tell me, will Mechanical Engineering be accredited by BEM / IEM / MQA ?

ISH!

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post Apr 12 2008, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Akane @ Apr 12 2008, 01:31 AM)
There are blardy hell alot of houses out there. No one force you to stay in Westlake areas. You can opt to stay outside if you want. Its the same thing.

Wasting the students First Year ? LMAO ! I starting to believe whether you have experience in higher education or not.  Relearning some subjects from STPM/A Levels is a waste of time? Mind you University level is totally different. You might relearn some similar subjects, but in more details. Try to ask STPM students who are doing their degree in UTAR and you will know whether they are relearning the subjects or enhancing their understanding towards the subject. And do some research before you post. Most University including the prestigous one are repeating their year one with subjects similar to ALevels/STPM. And if you seriously think that its tat easy, then try to get into the President List first.

Seriously you have good experience in building dont you ? Mind you, according to a friend of mine, building a bridge across the lake is not something cheap. He speculate that a construction like that will cost around 4-5 million. You wanna spend that money on a brigde whilst you already have a proper road that brings you straight into the campus. And yet you are saying UTAR is wasting the peoples' money. How absurb.

With the increase in buses, you think u need to wait for blardy 2 hours for a bus ? Come mon. Have you ever studied in KTAR ? How many buses KTAR had ? And how long you gotta wait for the bus ? With an increase of 20 buses is more than enough. Mind you that not everyone will take the bus route, some might walk to school and I believe majority will drive. Even in FES, with barely 3 bus, it only takes 1 hour the max for a bus to arrive. And no one ask you to be so damn retard to wait for the bus for that duration. You can always reach the bus stop 10 minutes before departure.

A Private University is not a Non Profit Organization. Of course they will make profit. But how much they exactly made, no one knows. Unless you are responsible for their financial, I doubt the figures are real. And a huge sum of money is used to finance the university research projects. A scientific research aint cheap.

I might agree with you on the part they are using some lousy lecturers, but its the same thing everywhere. You wan good lecturer, opt for Monash, Nottingham. I have a brother doing his degree in Monash and I know how good is their lecturer and their syllabus. But the cost ?. Think about it. We have our right to demand a better environment for our studies since we pay them, but not in this way. Like in FES, we demand them to change the canteen operator thru our Students Rep. Not by defaming UTAR in a public forum like this. It will never improve the situation.

And yeah, you wan me to intro you to some of my friends who jump boat from Public Uni to UTAR ? Lol. Bet you dont.

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Parking fee is the same thing in FES. We are unhappy about it too, but due to demand > supply we have no choice. In fact, everyone is willing to pay for the parking after some safety issue in Setapak area. The bus will  be there. Its just a matter of time. They are running a University with approximately 20k students. If they dont provide the transportation, how students are going to get to the campus for class.

Try to adapt to the kampung lifestyle then. Its nice. I am longing to go and finish my final year in Kampar but I dont have the chance. And yet you have it, then take it as an experience. Afterall there are students out there who are studying in some more Jungle places.
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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Apr 12 2008, 02:02 AM)
Kinda contradicting that he can calculate all the lecturers' salary but failed to calculate how expensive a bridge can be. :/

First year time wasting ? This show that you never manage your time well. I had one hell of a fun during first year. I join 2 clubs and participated in a public speaking competitions, so it's ain't time wasting for me. I am from form 6 so I am fully aware that first year I will have some subjects repeat from form 6, so ? Form 6 is PRE-UNI programmes, and the first year are recap so we can at least remember and go further details in the next few semesters.

Like it or not Lecturers are like that. They want attention. Infact this is one of the life skill you and me will have to learn when we come out and work, as we will meet various kind of people. And oh before you try to say how suck the lecturers' english is, check yours first, you ain't different than their speaking. So what I turn on my english nazi mode when someone like you criticise others' english when your post is full of it ?

"Ya, i agree. but i wish at least u all kampar will be better in PJ. cause PJ expenses all high. but still environment like shit. only thing is, ONE U, IKEA, IKANO, MIDVALLEY and so on only."

Is it just me or his england is damn powderful ? I don't get, first he said PJ campus sucks, and now wants the Kampar students to come and stay here, clarify for me please.

"Hello, don't gimme such bullsh-t ok? Study for degree doesn't mean have to turn yourself into jailbird and pay unnecessary price for such outcome."

Hello, don't give me bullshit, ok ? It's matter of time and budget managing.
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Couldn't agree more with both of them.. Especially about the english thingy... lol!

Hmm.. about the lecturer's english standard, i do admit that a minority of lecturers in UTAR cannot speak good english.. but that is not an obstacle for them to present their knowledges to their students.. i did come across this kind of lecturer, but i do not have a problem of understanding what they are trying to say.. To me, it's not a matter of their english standard, it's a matter of are they able to present their knowledge to their students.. and so far, after competing my first sememster, i do not have problem absorbing new knowledges from them.. and i am happy with that.

Lecturer quality? It's the same in every university lah dude.. My friend from Monash complained about his physics lecturer to me =)

You can search through this forum for some previous threads of mine... In the beginning, i was very reluctant to enter UTAR, coz of some stupid rumors about UTAR.. At first, i entered UTAR feeling disappointed, but now, after one sememster, i have no regrets at all.. I am satisfied with the lecturers of UTAR, the education i am receiving, and even the lab officers in UTAR! Even they are very willing to share their knowledge with us.. All my lecturers mingle very well with students, and because of that, i enjoyed my every single lectures..

UTAR is still constantly improving.. The former president of UTAR has opened the path for the future of UTAR, and now with the presence of the new president, i am sure that UTAR will be even better in the future..

If you or your brother or whatever don't like UTAR, as you said, u rather SUFFER IN PUBLIC UNI.. who is stopping you from doing that? whistling.gif
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post Apr 12 2008, 10:06 PM

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LOL... you are so funny dude.. What's wrong with "so many ppl defending UTAR"??
We are just telling the truth.. correcting what's wrong.. and not accusing this accusing that without prior research..

Did any university pay you to defame UTAR? lol.. never seen someone like you which is so "anti-UTAR"

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post Apr 13 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Apr 13 2008, 03:25 AM)
I'm sorry to interupt guys but no one answered my question..hope you guys dun mind
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I don't know how to answer your question, as i'm not an engineering student yet, but after my foundation year, i will be doing Mechanical Engineering too..

From my previous researches about Mechanical Engineering in UTAR, i would say that the equipments are ENOUGH for students to do their practical, and i do believe that those equipments will be upgraded too in the immediate future, as we have a new president that knows alot about engineering, so i believe that he will bring UTAR's engineering to a higher level and standard..

Accredition vise, i don't think so this is a problem, again, our new president is the vice president for IEM, so i think he will know that what should UTAR do in order to get accreditions for it's engineering courses..

Lecturer vise, i've actually contacted an associate professor from FES ( Faculty of Engineering and Science ), and from his statement, he told me that we have quite a number of lecturers whose name are well known in the engineering industry, he gave me a few examples of the name, but LOL, how can a foundation student like me know so much about their names? And he also told me that there will be quite a number of "top guns" lecturers in Malaysia that are about to join UTAR this year, if i am not mistaken, a number of them are from Monash University, and also other reputated universities, yeah.. so i would say that we are quite lucky to have them.

hehe, i know that i emphasize alot on the new president, but that's just my opinion lah.. I really hope that my opinion does help your friend. All the best~

Sorry if i am not helping anything.. LOL..
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post Apr 20 2008, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Tom Welling @ Apr 20 2008, 09:47 PM)
I saw from UTAR's website they offer BSc.(Hons) Chemistry...
is this course available at Kampar?? anyone here taking this course can explain more on it to me? smile.gif
Well...i wonder is UTAR's degree world recognised? unsure.gif  i intend to pursue masters(mayb to US or Aus) after obtaining my degree...
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If i am not mistaken, this course is available in kampar.. not too sure bout that.. i am only sure that all engineering, except EEE are still in setapak

About the world recognized thingy... We do have graduate that got full scholarship to pursue their postgraduate studies at ANU ( australia national university ), Cambridge university and also NUS ( national university of singapore ), so based on this... yes, i think it's recognized... Furthermore, we have external examiners from overseas universities like Yale university, cambridge and other reputated universities.. The "function" of these external examiners are to make sure that UTAR's courses are up to international standard...

Hope that helps..
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post Apr 21 2008, 10:18 PM

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Hehe, am i lucky or wat?
So far i've never met officers / staffs like this..

All smile smile one~~
Some very sweet gok~~~

sorry...i'm in a "fatt hao" mode..
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post Apr 21 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(kanzakicyn @ Apr 21 2008, 10:23 PM)
maybe they see u leng chai

l8r u ajak her go coffee she lagi smile
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Eee.. don't lah, i shy~~ blush.gif
I not leng chai lah... fei chai yes lah...

Cham.. tomolo physics paper still "fatt hao" here...

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post Apr 21 2008, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Octavios @ Apr 21 2008, 10:27 PM)
its good actually.at least you can be happy by thinking that.
and when you are happy,you are handsome flex.gif
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What happy by thinking that?
I am on a dieT!!! sooooo tough!! but for May Intake girls... hehehe

NO SACRIFICE, NO VICTORY! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Apr 21 2008, 10:29 PM)
SAD SAD, the USA trip got cancelled too i suppose? Even S'pore got cancelled i think the USA one should be cancelled also...

Anyways only guy i hate in UTAR esp PA block is the botak security guy. ID harrasser.. where is your id?? Everytime kena
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"Excuse me, are you UTAR student?"
"where is your ID?"
" i am sorry, you must leave this computer lab if you don't have ID"

wahahaha..
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post Apr 21 2008, 10:52 PM

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er, i mean internet lab... sorry...
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post Apr 22 2008, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(skysblue @ Apr 22 2008, 12:12 AM)
Erm...I want to ask about..Does Utar offer twinning program?
I'm goin for Bachelor in E&E Engineering. Will the cert be recognize?
Anyone can tell me more about this?
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E&E macam sudah recognized by BEM d... Not sure is Electronic Engineering, Electrical Engineering or E&E kena recognized by BEM d.. sorry yah..
UTAR no twinning programme one...

About the recognization thingy, u don't have to worry.. UTAR WILL definitely get it's accredition eventually.. after their pioneer batch of students from respective engineering fields graduate.. ( This is a requirement from BEM before recognizing the engineering degrees )
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post Apr 22 2008, 05:55 PM

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Intake besides May might happen sometime, but that is if there are still alot of empty slots for certain subjects only.. Do remember that september intake might not have the course that you want..

As far as i know, not all new student MUST 100% study kampar, some get to choose, some not, but depends where are you going to do your first year degree..

For example, i am taking mechanical engineering, and next year i will be doing my first year at FES at Setapak, so they say that they wanna let me adopt to the KL lifestyle first, so they put me at PJ campus loh..

Hope that helps..
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post Apr 24 2008, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE([="@k£LwIN@"=] @ Apr 24 2008, 01:20 AM)
hello juniors ..haha... how r u all? My dad sent me this link and I juz had a quick browse-thru, so I'm gonna put my 2 cent in hehe..

FYI, I'm currently pursuing 2-yr Master of Biotech (Food Science & Tech) at RMIT, Melbourne smile.gif

Yeah, I was like you guyz, UTAR sux, rite? Lolz.. in terms of facilities (I mean Setapak coz I've never been to Kampar), UTAR wasn't that good and was not up to standard, I expected a CAMPUS life with balanced life style.

if u talk about academic-related skills and job-related skills (FYI again, I worked in a pharmaceutical factory for 2 months b4 I came to Melbourne) such as presentation skill which is important in presenting ideas, procedures and all sort thing when u r in work or when u wanna present your reports and discuss with other international students.. UTAR gave everything u needed smile.gif Frankly speaking, I can ensure u guyz UTAR syllabuses are within international standards. I'm glad my lecturers in UTAR teached me everything that is applicable in my job and Master course in Australia. Imagine, when u're studying in a class with people from all around the world, Mali, Macau,Taiwan, China, Maritius, India, Australia, Arabian countries, and etc u may think "Oh, I'm frm UTAR, a lousy Uni, I won't b as good as others" then u r wrong! As a second-upper class grad, I'm happy with what I've been equipped with, I may not b the best in the class but I would say I am competitve enough for the Master course smile.gif

the problem is the students' attitude, they were always hoping for tips, hints and etc.. low initiative to learn and to explore more abt what's happening out of the textbook or the exams, for example biotech world, new technique for vaccination such as DNA vaccination, new genetically-modified crop that can be a new source for biofuel and stuff

Ask yourself, have u done your reports, assignments, practicals seriously? Have u learnt the proper skills to write your report? do you reference or in-text ref your reports properly? What do u actually have to write for your intro, material & methods and blabla to make the whole report flows? How to do a good presentation?.. these little small things are very very useful n are goin to b crucial in the future, either u r goin to work or further study. And u were given so many chances to practice but u were complaining at that moment, which myself had neglected as well(not to say totally) LOlz... if not I'll suffer here like my friends from Macau and Taiwan, they had a hard time with English coz their degree was Chinese-medium. Furthermore, one of them DOES NOT know how to do a proper referencing,it's kinda disgrace for a graduated undergrad student who should have familiarized it when she was doin thesis or some kinda project, and she DOES NOT know how to look for journals and etc etc etc.. Trust me, u will get annoyed when ppl started asking u the things they should have known...

So now, take up the initiative, do your homework or researches first b4 start throwing questions to your lecturer(s). I think they will b more than happy to answer questions from a prepared student smile.gif Over and out!

Cheers!

Regards,
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Some real life experience here eh..
I love your words bro, really hope that the thread starter will see this..

Good luck for your masters~!
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post Apr 24 2008, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(chicaman @ Apr 24 2008, 09:12 PM)
tl;dr lulz, jk la, i read all, this is wat i call human post.

TS, u are a biasing person who always think you are right
lol at my english , i wouldnt mind, its internet after all, and i really really really hate your first post, despite partially of it is true, seriously i dont like UTAR due to the management and certain sh1tty lecturer where the whole lecture group dont like him.

so about the no choice stuff, its not true at all. all the stpm student in my course is very smart, of course most of them didnt manage to apply for local U, however we know one thing which is the earthman stuff. since u are so smart, u should know wat i mean. UM is great isnt it? wooo~ best UNI in malaysia. look at the ranking now.

How are u gonna compare the campus in KL, sg long etc with a long established college like KTAR? futhermore its only a temporary campus. Go see what developement will UTAR bring foward in future at kampar. U will never know.

be it u like it or not, no one give a dam, UTAR student is always proud of the uni they are studying because we are studying there and we know well smile.gif

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Somehow, i really have a feeling that the TS was being "employed" by other uni to defame UTAR, lol~~

"External Defaming Officer" ?? wuhuuuu~
Good luck to all UTARians in the finals!~ rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
i still have 6 days to go~!! yeah!
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post Apr 26 2008, 01:10 AM

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Why u all so unlucky?
I am having my exam in PD too wat.. i'm from PA
but no such thing happened on me

I asked staffs questions, some of them even smile at me when answering my questions...

Maybe that shows not ALL UTAR staffs are that horrible?
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post Apr 26 2008, 06:11 PM

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Too bad i've never been taught by Miss Kong..

Only been taught by Mr.Ong before...
and i've few words for him..

"kanasai"
"you sucks"

Wahahahaha....
nolah, nolah, it should be
Mr. Ong, YOU ROCKS!!!!!!!

Did you guys see his friendster? we made a pink doraemon cake for him ... wahahaha for his farewell..
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post Apr 28 2008, 07:29 PM

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He calls me Captain Wong..
and when he taught us vectors, yeah... all those aeroplane vectors question, all throw to captain wong..

my god...
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post Apr 29 2008, 03:32 AM

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Normally foundation student will be gurenteed their respective degree levels if they pass their foundation?

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