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sevenheaven
post Apr 9 2008, 08:32 PM

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I'm from UTAR PJ, doing foundation studies lah. From my point of view, only those who can't get into local U or didn't study well in form 6 will come for foundation studies. Well, they can do better because some subjects we studied in foundation has already been touched during form six, so I don't think form 6 people will have any problem with it.

What I am unhappy with UTAR is, when we apply for foundation, we need to list out what degree we wanted to pursue, and they say we can change our degree course at the end of the foundation course. What they didn't tell us in the very beginning is, we need to pay RM300 to change the name of degree course we wrote down on the form 1 year ago. I find this is totally absurd. Just because they want to make sure we have a 'space' booked for us for degree and it cost RM300. There you go.

And to those who don't like Maths, Please do not choose Stream C, because we have General Maths for 2 semester, many people 'died' on the spot. That's why my current course have 3 classrooms only.

And I am very concern about WHEN am I going to Kampar. Some degree will be held there. And some will stay here for 1 or 2 years then only go to Kampar. They should at least list down the degree courses which will be held in Kampar for us. Not keep us guessing.

And I just called Westlake just now, Yale is fully booked now and Manchester's room is running out soon. I think UTAR and the Danish house thing 'pakat'. Why don't they just build a bridge across the lake? Why must we go around the lake? I hate the fact that we need to cycle everyday. And the distance is not very short. Perhaps it's just me. And I think PD block is nicer than UTAr Kampar itself.

Oh yea, Westlake laundry service is 4 times a month. And I heard Danish's laundry service is 8 times a month. Why I have the feeling that UTAR and KTAR never come together? Why must it be separated? I think I am crapping. Sigh, stressed la. Whenever I think about Kampar, my mood all gone. Sigh.
sevenheaven
post Apr 11 2008, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(mphpopular @ Apr 11 2008, 07:52 PM)
Don't worry about PTPTN bcoz, all utar subject is applicable for PTPTN... and don't worry is it accredited o not, cause if u work in private company, they wont care so much, unless you going to apply government job.

but i'm curious, y all PJ campus student suffer while other campus is not bad, what an unfair. PJ is main campus? what a bad place.

Y must everyone say UTAR is good? did u think b4 some priviledges is belong to us, we should fight for it, and not juz only say yes to it. We have our own right to request for what we want.

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I admit that 190 rent (kampar) is cheap if compare to KL. but dun try do calculation wif me.  I can briefly explain to you.
Comparing to KL, 190 is called very cheap. But 190 rent in Kampar is considered high, according to land revaluation and survey on Kampar that area, the rent for a single storey house which is 22*65 (3 room 1 bathroom) should be around 400 per month. If you compare the rent back to Kampar own area, the rent is considered high. some more Kampar which is considered as a rural area should not achieve that high rent. Mayb KL is expensive, but it is capital of our country.

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Utar admin is doing work by those moz easy way. first, they do as wat LAN say. LAN say what then they do wat.
Did you ever comparing those subject in a course between UTAR and others. You will know that UTAR is wasting first year for nothing for moz of subject.

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UTAR buses mayb increases. But why don't you juz build a bridge in KAMPAR. It is moz jimat than using buses in long term. Y use bus? UTAR
earn money.... Buses increases does not mean that u will get buses in every half hour.

UTAR student mostly will face tis problem. class at 12 am. But the last bus is at 9.30. so how? take 930 bus and waste time in school. Did it worth?
Then ppl will say buy motor buy car la. Then i wan ask, if they build bridge, walk also can reach la. If the housing area is not owned by that construction company, then did we nid to walk so far? Did UTAR really fight something better from us? or juz keep earning money?

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Did you heard before UTAR president son come here study? where he get his benz S class which is worth for 7 digit? is from our money

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UTAR PJ PD block currently financial situation :
Calculation of UTAR degree year 1 student : 1 group 20 student, average value for group is 44.
44 group X 20 student X 3800 fee per person for 1 sem (3 month) = 3344000.

Cost of UTAR operate :
Building rental : 100000 for 3 month
Electricity and water : 30000 for 3 month
Administritive expenses : 180000 for 3 month
Lecturer : 450000 for 3 month
Other expenses : 100000 for 3 month
Don't say about renovation, bcoz UTAR PD nvr renovate

Total revenue for every 3 month : 2484000
NOTE : THIS IS ONLY AMOUNT OF REVENUE FOR YEAR 1 DEGREE STUDENT for UTAR PD BLOCK ONLY.

If you add up 3 year studnet in PJ PD BLOCK, then add with PJ PA PB PC student. THEN add with SETAPAK and SG LONG. THEN YOU WILL Know how much they earn.

And such high revenue. yet still create a low standard environment, low standard of lecturer + teaching method. Where does our money go?
Their pocket. And now you still don't want fight for your right and get what you suppose to get?

If they unable to give a good quality. THEN UTAR shouldn't become a spoiler. UTAR gives us choice and hope. but they break your dream hope after you come in. IF THIS IS THE WAY, i rather suffer in PUBLIC UNIVERSITI.
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I can get a house with 1 HUGE master room attached with bathroom, 1 medium room, 2 single room all attached with bathroom and 1 HUGE living room and a BIG kitchen for RM400 through an agent.

Then my friend found the exact same type of house for RM250 only. Just that without ceiling fans. Haiya. But my mum insisted that I should stay in Westlake. Westlake is such a rip off! Expensive and We can only wash our clothes once per week? Absurd!

And not to forget about the parking space in UTAR Kampar! I heard that we have to pay RM300 per year and Rm200 Per year in Westlake. Though I don't have a car, just find it ridiculous!

The distance to school, the westlake homes, the far away from town issue, the management and the stupid guards which wouldn't let us in even we have our student id. They say there will be more bus but I doubt. Even in PJ area, we don't have much bus anyway. I doubt there will be 20 buses as people claims as it should be.


Added on April 11, 2008, 10:46 pmSo sad lah, at the same time unhappy with UTAR, but no other choices. I know many people will say, you don't like UTAR then go to LKW, INTI, Taylors, Sunway etc. etc. lah!

If i got the money I will be there lah. KDU foundation course is Rm14,000 overall. But UTAR is RM7000. BUT! UTAR increase from RM4000 to RM7000. You Judge.

I even have a lecturer who claims that UTAR foundation course is there for a 'good will'. She say she don't earn much and UTAR don't earn much from Foundation studies. But they still have this course because they want to 'help' students out.

By looking at the calculation above, I see they do earn very very much. From PA, PB, PC, PD and added a new PE. Actually we have 2 PE, but now they rent a new one beside PD block.

Where all the money comes from lah?

Yes, I do admit I dislike Kampar because it's a kampung place. You can say I am selfish and I wanna play around in city places instead of really studying in Kampar.

Hello, don't gimme such bullsh-t ok? Study for degree doesn't mean have to turn yourself into jailbird and pay unnecessary price for such outcome.

I am just unhappy, that's all.


This post has been edited by sevenheaven: Apr 11 2008, 10:46 PM
sevenheaven
post Apr 13 2008, 12:37 AM

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Ktar fees is half of utar fees???????

People from westlake, I wanna know where do you get food? Is there a canteen or something? They said the electricity and water bill is covered. But why do we need to pay more if it exceeded RM10? And how the hell do they count? Is that just a rumour just like the RM200 parking fees?

Will there be internet connection in your own room?

And do we need to pay RM300 for motorbike parking space also? Anybody find it a pain to cycle everyday to UTAR?

I am just very very concern that's all. Educate me. Haha

I'm going there tomorrow to check out the place again. Peace.
sevenheaven
post Apr 13 2008, 01:42 AM

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alo! I am not a dude. I WANTED to stay outside. but my parents wouldn't let me. And from the moment i land my foot in westlake, i have to sign a contract for 1 whole year! totally absurd and blood sucking!
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post Apr 13 2008, 05:19 AM

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that's why I like pd block more than Kampar itself. The whole building of PD block have aircond. And lifts! tho it's very slow. sometimes walk from stairs is faster than the lift itself. I like PD block. Tho the food there is ... expensive. Very Very expensive indeed. But there are mamaks! The only trouble in PD is the parking space. I can't think of anything else that made me unhappy. Except the people in the office.

We call her "the red lips" and the malay office boy is damn rude. In PE block's office we have one aunty which will shout at us out of nowhere. most of my friends also kena screwed. Include me. hahahah.

Tho I feel that PA block is very very old. I can see holes on the walls and the toilets, fuiyooo.. I was a few rooms away but can smell the disgusting smell already. Thankfully I'm not in PA block. My friends claims that the rooms are so spooky.

I have a finance lecturer who cannot speak english very well. I had hard time digesting what she's talking about. She spell public as pub-bic, preferred shares as peref-fe-rence shares, and paling teruk is indefinitely, she spell it as ai-definit-ly. Nobody dares to laugh though. Too nasty and wouldn't let us to sign on the attendance list. I even recorded her with mp3 players. Sounds so funny biggrin.gif sweat.gif

My general maths lecturer spell possible as PASSible, infinite as in-fy-night. sweat.gif

Yeah, some lecturer's english are not that good, but we don't pick on them. We just laugh silently between each others. Quite harsh tho. sweat.gif But they know what they're teaching lah.

I have another general maths lecturer, she's doing Phd now. She NEVER writes on the board, and show slides only. Same thing during tutorials. Imagine teaching maths but don't write and just explain according to the slides. Many people died on the spot too. Hahahaha
sevenheaven
post Apr 14 2008, 04:58 PM

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I just came back from Kampar.

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I HATE KAMPAR!!!!!!
sevenheaven
post Apr 15 2008, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(LYR @ Apr 14 2008, 08:28 PM)
he hates it because it's a boring town. with nearly no entertainment like KL, for sure Kampar is a terrible place especially for those who've already get used to the lifestyle in big cities.
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halo! I'm a girl!

I complain!

I went to westlake. they told me that i can't pay for the deposit anymore. 'coz they dun have enough rooms now. so building them 24/7 now. and I have to stay in classic house. means the hostel at ktar for at least 3 months! Rm140 for 1 single room. Then now the distance is far more worst than from utar itself.

The room's price gone up. The single room is RM295 now. And the room is so god damn small!

I don't care about the view, i Don't care about the mountain and tasik. I just hate that place!
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:20 AM

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they told me the same thing. I have to go to classic house at ktar side. for at least 3 months! say got utar bus but I am still skeptical.

Still have to pay deposit after they informed you. Now the single room is RM295! such a rip off! sign contract for 1 year at that time. And they do not provide internet connection for half year. They say the moment you move in, half year don't have streamyx. do the math yourself.

shit place.

 

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