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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 12 2023, 07:50 PM)
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PDRM said moto came out from the simpang/taman

at Penang Jalan Loh Poh Heng

woman on moto RIP on the spot

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victim family claimed BMW driver & his family attitude were very lansi & arrogant

after bang ppl, not even an apology from any of them

they said: anything, we talk in court

he also removed the dashcam quickly n not willing to show the recording on the spot
https://www.kwongwah.com.my/?p=1352293


QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 06:53 PM)
wow

he now say his BMW got no dashcam

since no dashcam, he said the claim of him removing dashcam is invalid

https://www.kwongwah.com.my/?p=1352358
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father of bmw driver kena hentam kuat, head jahit 4 benang

victim family claimed that it was not them sent ppl to beat him,

it was random public ppl hentam him

https://www.kwongwah.com.my/20230512/%e3%80...8a%a8%e7%b2%97/
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from the bideo, looks like the victim is comin out from the house or junction.

BM mcm tak boleh elak? but car doesnt seems to apply break...very strange

correct unker if wrong

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WTF, driver bodoh tekan minyak ke apa?

confirm main phone, then suddenly terkejut nampak moto, mau brek but instead, tekan minyak kaw2
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Helmet don't secure to head won't help during accident.
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Sad to see the helmet fly after impact
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if helmet is secured properly would she survived?
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helmet rider flying oso
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BMW got lari?
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post May 12 2023, 10:04 AM

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innocent apa benda? Helmet why never ikat??
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One thing I realise in videos relating to moto. Most rider never properly wear their helmet. If they wear properly, it will not fly away from your head, probably can at least save you from head injury.

Pakai helmet betul2 la rider semua. AGATT.
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
from the bideo, looks like the victim is comin out from the house or junction.

BM mcm tak boleh elak? but car doesnt seems to apply break...very strange

correct unker if wrong
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ya, seems like it..moto looks like masuk main road tiba2... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
Helmet don't secure to head won't help during accident.
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I think in this case the helmet only won't save her, neck and spine injury is also highly likely.
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
from the bideo, looks like the victim is comin out from the house or junction.

BM mcm tak boleh elak? but car doesnt seems to apply break...very strange

correct unker if wrong
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Yes. The CCTV house is corner house. On the right side is the junction

https://maps.app.goo.gl/hfE5Wfds2373gjrp8?g_st=ic

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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
Helmet don't secure to head won't help during accident.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
if helmet is secured properly would she survived?
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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
helmet rider flying oso
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QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
innocent apa benda? Helmet why never ikat??
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
One thing  I realise in videos relating to moto. Most rider never properly wear their helmet. If they wear properly, it will not fly away from your head, probably can at least save you from head injury.

Pakai helmet betul2 la rider semua. AGATT.
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ni betull...ramai rider moto jenis pakai helmet just to avoid kena saman only, like its never about safety for them

helmet put on, but never secure it or not properly tightened is the norm for most rider ive seen
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post May 12 2023, 10:07 AM

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hmm the crash impact not strong but also pass away sad RIP...

the drive so blind in front also cannot see the motor... is not like is hidden in blindspot... or was it intention...
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QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
innocent apa benda? Helmet why never ikat??
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properly wearing a good helmet would have saved her life in this case
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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
Helmet don't secure to head won't help during accident.
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I still have to say Motobodo.

Wear helmet no strap-on / helmet size too big for small head
is as good as not wearing at all.

Dumb ways to die... ....
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QUOTE(janszmatt @ May 12 2023, 10:06 AM)
Yes. The CCTV house is corner house. On the right side is the junction

https://maps.app.goo.gl/hfE5Wfds2373gjrp8?g_st=ic
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apa ranciao BMW ni speeding at junction. BMW driver mmg ah
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This time is keretabodo.

Open road no traffic also can hit someone? Must be playing with the phone or mabuk.
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QUOTE(janszmatt @ May 12 2023, 10:06 AM)
Yes. The CCTV house is corner house. On the right side is the junction

https://maps.app.goo.gl/hfE5Wfds2373gjrp8?g_st=ic
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the streetview dunno updated till when, cant be sure if this is the spot.

coz unker cannot find the red patch on empty land from the camera angle.
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got video circulating showing few ppl hentam the driver ady
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ May 12 2023, 10:01 AM)
Moto is never innocent. Must be karma for past behaviour.
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thats kinda rough opinion, but i get what you mean
when its your turn to go, you will go no matter what
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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ May 12 2023, 10:07 AM)
hmm the crash impact not strong but also pass away sad RIP...

the drive so blind in front also cannot see the motor... is not like is hidden in blindspot... or was it intention...
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more likely terkejut, and slammed the throttle instead of brake unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 12 2023, 10:10 AM)
got video circulating showing few ppl hentam the driver ady
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share sini tengok leh
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
BMW got lari?
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driver kena pukul, then gf try to stop them.

looks like a young guy
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8/10 side impact ni , cantik cantik bang forward the impact lebih cantik to watch
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QUOTE(janszmatt @ May 12 2023, 10:06 AM)
Yes. The CCTV house is corner house. On the right side is the junction

https://maps.app.goo.gl/hfE5Wfds2373gjrp8?g_st=ic
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Looks like a long, straight road.

BMW testing top speed ke
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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
if helmet is secured properly would she survived?
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COnfirm survived.

the whole back of the head to the windscreen, you say leh?... ...
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 10:11 AM)
share sini tengok leh
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me dunno how to upload whatsapp video in /k innocent.gif
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so what's the driver's excuse this time; microsleep?
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Moto came out from junction like a boss?
But bmw should able to brake on time
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 12 2023, 10:11 AM)
driver kena pukul, then gf try to stop them.

looks like a young guy
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hentam saja la... hitting someone mother who need to feed family, or someone beloved daughter... motherfucker.
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Wearing helmet properly awareness video
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QUOTE(ycs @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
The funniest thing I've seen today. Still cannot stop laughing. I shared with rider's friends. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 12 2023, 10:12 AM)
me dunno how to upload whatsapp video in /k  innocent.gif
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download then u upload to streamable

we can help to pin it
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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
I think in this case the helmet only won't save her, neck and spine injury is also highly likely.
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Better to be bedridden than dead right
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Motobodo for dying due to stupid reason
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good job all plotek bmw and say moto no wear helmet.

i also no like motobodo but when car langgar from back is car definitely in the wrong
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moto slow down too much in the middle of road
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 10:15 AM)
download then u upload to streamable

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later i will try
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wanted to wear full face helmet riding kapcai, but seems weird and unusual for malaysian. if big bike then ok, if big bike pulak wear half face nampak weird also
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Bm mau tekan break tersilap tekan minyak, this one old version, to ada aeb one ah?
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ May 12 2023, 10:01 AM)
Moto is never innocent. Must be karma for past behaviour.
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I think it's time we all band together to report this guy.

Cc goldfries se7en
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 12 2023, 10:11 AM)
driver kena pukul, then gf try to stop them.

looks like a young guy
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Must be bz raba gf la... nvr pay attention on the road
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:09 AM)
the streetview dunno updated till when, cant be sure if this is the spot.

coz unker cannot find the red patch on empty land from the camera angle.
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It’s this spot
The grassy patch across from the house is now red patch as seen from satellite view

Dropped pin
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WLxDLfpCXqrtAQwb6?g_st=ic
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QUOTE(kens88` @ May 12 2023, 10:17 AM)
good job all plotek bmw and say moto no wear helmet.

i also no like motobodo but when car langgar from back is car definitely in the wrong
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i don't think anyone is trying to protect the car driver, but everyone just mentioned about the motor rider might able to live on another day if she wear her helmet properly.
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:09 AM)
the streetview dunno updated till when, cant be sure if this is the spot.

coz unker cannot find the red patch on empty land from the camera angle.
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The lights, the gates, seems to fit

user posted image

the opposite wall features and bushes fits also

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QUOTE(ahchat @ May 12 2023, 10:07 AM)
ni betull...ramai rider moto jenis pakai helmet just to avoid kena saman only, like its never about safety for them

helmet put on, but never secure it or not properly tightened is the norm for most rider ive seen
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meresiah koboi mentality

same for wearing seatbelts
even with seatbelt alarm they just buy something to cucuk at the buckle
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QUOTE(janszmatt @ May 12 2023, 10:20 AM)
It’s this spot
The grassy patch across from the house is now red patch as seen from satellite view

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https://maps.app.goo.gl/WLxDLfpCXqrtAQwb6?g_st=ic
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The BMW was driving way too fast in that kind of road. So many houses right next to the road.

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if road ada line in junction
but no berhenti signs means what arrr?
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2023, 10:13 AM)
The funniest thing I've seen today. Still cannot stop laughing. I shared with rider's friends.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:25 AM)
if road ada line in junction
but no berhenti signs means what arrr?
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showcase bmw sapu corner ?
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kereta mana boleh salah...motobodo salah tak pakai helmet properly-terpaling/k

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 12 2023, 10:28 AM)
showcase bmw sapu corner ?
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i think bmw view is this

user posted image

and amoi came out from this junction

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so again

line on the road, but no BERHENTI sign, how??

oh btw
theres a POWIIS further in the road the BMW suspected to come from

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QUOTE(ahchat @ May 12 2023, 11:02 AM)
WTF, driver bodoh tekan minyak ke apa?

confirm main phone, then suddenly terkejut nampak moto, mau brek but instead, tekan minyak kaw2
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what ? u never play phone while driving before? i do it all the time and x pernah crash pun. ok je
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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ May 12 2023, 10:11 AM)
Looks like a long, straight road.

BMW testing top speed ke
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the straight road from POWIIS to the junction , at the junction there have white line on 3 sides

but no BERHENTI sign, apa maksud dia?
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
from the bideo, looks like the victim is comin out from the house or junction.

BM mcm tak boleh elak? but car doesnt seems to apply break...very strange

correct unker if wrong
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looking like the biker just got onto the main road and didn't see this speeding BMW
I may be wrong.

but we can see that this car driver was speeding.
just like any other typical dickhead BMW drivers....he was driving fast on a residential road.
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ May 12 2023, 10:43 AM)
what ? u never play phone while driving before? i do it all the time and x pernah crash pun. ok je
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insaf lah

you only need 1 time like this dude
baru nak tergadah?
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ May 12 2023, 10:43 AM)
what ? u never play phone while driving before? i do it all the time and x pernah crash pun. ok je
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why tukar
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 10:45 AM)
looking like the biker just got onto the main road and didn't see this speeding BMW
I may be wrong.

but we can see that this car driver was speeding.
just like any other typical dickhead BMW drivers....he was driving fast on a residential road.
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the road the BMW have a White line at the junction
but no berhenti sign
how? need to stop? or no stop?
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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
One thing  I realise in videos relating to moto. Most rider never properly wear their helmet. If they wear properly, it will not fly away from your head, probably can at least save you from head injury.

Pakai helmet betul2 la rider semua. AGATT.
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There was one time I told a motor rider when we stopped at the red light .
i indirectly tell him "eh, you lupa to strap your helmet"

you know what he said ? "no need lah".
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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ May 12 2023, 10:07 AM)


the drive so blind in front also cannot see the motor... is not like is hidden in blindspot... or was it intention...
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one of the reason was that he was speeding.
not enough time to react.

many do not know in residential area. these roads are speed limit to about 35kmh.
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what ? u never play phone while driving before? i do it all the time and x pernah crash pun. ok je
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Motor exit at exact same spot where BMW blind spot is


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Red= BMW is suspected to be travelling from
Green= Motocycle come out of junction
Yellow= impact


junction on both have line
but the moto should have a Berhenti sign

also at the security bit

user posted image
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QUOTE(ss_izal @ May 12 2023, 10:18 AM)
wanted to wear full face helmet riding kapcai, but seems weird and unusual for malaysian. if big bike then ok, if big bike pulak wear half face nampak weird also
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don't care about others.
i hate this mindset
you wear helmet is for your own safety, and not for anyone else to comment wierd or not weird.
if you feel wearing fullface is safer, just wear it.
why you bother about other people? If you crash and smash your face onto the tarmac (just like my riding friend), will these people come console and help you?
Think think think.


Just FYI.
when i first ride a bike, a kapchai, i was already wearing full face and safety gears.
i never own any open face helmet in my lifetime.
except my mountain biking helmet, but i do have a full face cycling helmet, wear this when i go enduro downhill rides.

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Hit the guy more can save the victim?

Otak 404?
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:48 AM)
the road the BMW have a White line at the junction
but no berhenti sign
how? need to stop? or no stop?
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got white line or no white, from the video clip....the BMW was going way too fast on this road.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:53 AM)
user posted image

Red= BMW is suspected to be travelling from
Green= Motocycle come out of junction
Yellow= impact
junction on both have line
but the moto should have a Berhenti sign

also at the security bit

user posted image
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good visuals

dead motorcyclist might not be 100% innocent in this case

all the deadly combo aligned perfectly to cause this accident - motor came out suddenly, 2-lane road suddenly transitioned to a single residential lane at the wrong spot, opposite lane got vehicles just at the wrong time for beemer not being able to steer away
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:53 AM)
user posted image

Red= BMW is suspected to be travelling from
Green= Motocycle come out of junction
Yellow= impact
junction on both have line
but the moto should have a Berhenti sign
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Obviously the car driver didn't even bother slowing down when there is a line.
just tekan only showing off his german powered car.


not saying the rider is not wrong....if i'm that rider and seeing a car coming at this speed.
i'll stop and let it pass.


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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ May 12 2023, 10:58 AM)
Hit the guy more can save the victim?

Otak 404?
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 11:00 AM)
ppl like to tokok until it happens to them/ family
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:00 AM)
Obviously the car driver didn't even bother slowing down when there is a line.
just tekan only showing off his german powered car.
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maybe he expect the moto to stay leftmost so he can then not press the brake pedal

and cilok past it, impressing the girl on board


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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ May 12 2023, 11:01 AM)
Is the guy family member?
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the moto came out from a gated like taman

so the home should be nearby
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 11:03 AM)
obviously

the moto came out from a gated like taman

so the home should be nearby
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Can be just some random rempit and ah beng take chance attack others?
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Got dash cam from bmw? Have to see what happened before that accident.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:00 AM)

not saying the rider is not wrong....if i'm that rider and seeing a car coming at this speed.
i'll stop and let it pass.
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well the moto might slow or stop

and the car seems far away
and normal taman 40kmph speed migh make it seems safe to come out

mana tau at 80-100kmph
the car arrive too fast

my say is always the speeder must be capable to react to surroundings
and not the surrounding react to the speeder
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gib them slightly better powered car sudah mo showoff tekan minyak
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 11:07 AM)
Sedap babe, kalau dekat sana dapat belasah mangkuk tu.
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QUOTE(ralyon @ May 12 2023, 11:07 AM)
Got dash cam from bmw? Have to see what happened before that accident.
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its taman road
the immediate before the right of the video is a junction
with 3 side with white line


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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 11:07 AM)
well the moto might slow or stop

and the car seems far away
and normal taman 40kmph speed migh make it seems safe to come out

mana tau at 80-100kmph
the car arrive too fast

my say is always the speeder must be capable to react to surroundings
and not the surrounding react to the speeder
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correct
that's why in taman roads and coming to junctions - must not speed.

just wondering, was there a curved road before this spot? or just a straight road?
no way the biker couldn't see this car coming fast if that was a straight road. unless biker didn't bother to check at all.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:00 AM)
Obviously the car driver didn't even bother slowing down when there is a line.
just tekan only showing off his german powered car.
not saying the rider is not wrong....if i'm that rider and seeing a car coming at this speed.
i'll stop and let it pass.
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I think it safe to say that the rider did stop and go judging from the slow speed she came out of that junction. She would have assume the BMW would do the same, when the BMW reached the junction stop and go, but apparently that was not what the BMW had mind. I don't think the BMW even knows that there Stop & Go on the road he was on.

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Some times in a residential area, ppl love to plant bushes outside of their house, this block vision to see car from left or right side. I always make a stop to clearly check is there any motor,car,kids,elder person, blocked by all these bushes
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QUOTE(munak991 @ May 12 2023, 11:16 AM)
Some times in a residential area, ppl love to plant bushes outside of their house, this block vision to see car from left or right side. I always make a stop to clearly check is there any motor,car,kids,elder person, blocked by all these bushes
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Wow....... with traffic police around they still beat up the driver... sweat.gif

Anyway, driver probably above speed limit at that stretch of road. Looks like the bike also came out of junction without paying much attention to the car coming from the straight road. Helmet definitely not fasten probably.

RIP.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 11:24 AM)
Wow....... with traffic police around they still beat up the driver... sweat.gif

Anyway, driver probably above speed limit at that stretch of road. Looks like the bike also came out of junction without paying much attention to the car coming from the straight road. Helmet definitely not fasten probably.

RIP.
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no ktard check see the BMW saman status?

or doxx his personal info?

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:53 AM)
user posted image

Red= BMW is suspected to be travelling from
Green= Motocycle come out of junction
Yellow= impact
junction on both have line
but the moto should have a Berhenti sign

also at the security bit

user posted image
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I find drawing white line for straight line road very confusing, unless there's early sign of this, most driver won't be able to stop/slow down from going straight unless the driver is familiar with road knowing in advance of the white line.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:14 AM)
no way the biker couldn't see this car coming fast if that was a straight road.  unless biker didn't bother to check at all.
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It's a straight road.

But Penangite rider dah biasa small road turn into big road don't look at on-coming traffic.

The lady went too much to the center, while unlucky there's an Innova stopping on the opposite direction (waiting to turn right), if the BMW wanna avoid the motorbike, it'd slam head-to-head with the Innova.
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QUOTE(scorgio @ May 12 2023, 11:29 AM)
It's a straight road.

But Penangite rider dah biasa small road turn into big road don't look at on-coming traffic.

The lady went too much to the center, while unlucky there's an Innova stopping on the opposite direction (waiting to turn right), if the BMW wanna avoid the motorbike, it'd slam head-to-head with the Innova.
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That portion of the road suddenly narrowed so much due to the landed house curb protruding so much outwards. hmm.gif

Edit: I think rider not stopping when coming out from junction is rather common in BolehLand, not particular to Penangite.... Recall that child died case where the awek came out of the junction like a boss?

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QUOTE(frossonice @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
One thing  I realise in videos relating to moto. Most rider never properly wear their helmet. If they wear properly, it will not fly away from your head, probably can at least save you from head injury.

Pakai helmet betul2 la rider semua. AGATT.
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Penat mau cakap.

Many delivery riders like this.

When they share accident videos, can see helmet fly off because didn't tie properly. But they never learn from the videos.


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haiz..taman road drives slowy la..
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 11:34 AM)
Penat mau cakap.

Many delivery riders like this.

When they share accident videos, can see helmet fly off because didn't tie properly. But they never learn from the videos.
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that's because to these people.
the purpose of putting on a helmet is not for protection.
just putting it on because scared get saman. same goes to seatbelts.
how many of you still buckle up when sitting behind in a car?



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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:53 AM)
user posted image

Red= BMW is suspected to be travelling from
Green= Motocycle come out of junction
Yellow= impact
junction on both have line
but the moto should have a Berhenti sign

also at the security bit

user posted image
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I really dislike junctions that have trees or bushes right beside them. It forces outgoing vehicles to jut out more just for the driver to take a look.

And why is the other curb rounded out so much that it eats into the main road?
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Stupid speeders.

Hope sentence to life
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Again, motobodo came out to the main road without looking at the traffic. Typical motobodo.
Also, the car was quite fast on the narrow road there.

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Victim most probably never see coming traffic, just blindly turn and masuk too out into the middle. While BMW driver most probably speeding/playing phone/never notice victim coming out from junction.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:36 AM)
that's because to these people.
the purpose of putting on a helmet is not for protection.
just putting it on because scared get saman.  same goes to seatbelts.
how many of you still buckle up when sitting behind in a car?
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:09 AM)
the streetview dunno updated till when, cant be sure if this is the spot.

coz unker cannot find the red patch on empty land from the camera angle.
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 09:59 AM)


at Penang Jalan Loh Poh Heng

woman on moto RIP on the spot
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In some of the videos, I taught a kid go assault the BMW driver. Actually it was a short fat guy.....
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org buta say motor wrong. the car bang the motor and crash straight into off road, obviously car is wrong la.
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The deceased only mistake was, to assume that the jackass BMW driver would stop, when he arrives at the junct ion.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:33 AM)
i think bmw view is this

user posted image

and amoi came out from this junction

user posted image
so again

line on the road, but no BERHENTI sign, how??

oh btw
theres a POWIIS further in the road the BMW suspected to come from
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 11:37 AM)
I always buckle up when I sit in rear seat.
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and at times, sure got someone will laugh at me and say no need lah.
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motorbike look like just came out from the house, and the BMW lane assist no function in this situation, BTW that was a good fight
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 12 2023, 11:39 AM)
In some of the videos, I taught a kid go assault the BMW driver. Actually it was a short fat guy.....
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short fat guy related to any of the parties? or just an opportunist? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Selectt @ May 12 2023, 11:39 AM)
org buta say motor wrong. the car bang the motor and crash straight into off road, obviously car is wrong la.
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ah.... keta laju laju at taman road. every residential area u go now people drive like on highway.

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:43 AM)
same.
and at times, sure got someone will laugh at me and say no need lah.
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org buta say motor wrong. the car bang the motor and crash straight into off road, obviously car is wrong la.
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Yes. Everyone look for excuses to defend.

But car hit from behind, no matter what, car is wrong already. End of story.
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QUOTE(smallbug @ May 12 2023, 11:44 AM)
short fat guy related to any of the parties? or just an opportunist?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 11:42 AM)
The deceased only mistake was, to assume that the jackass BMW driver would stop, when he arrives at the junct ion.
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BMW again... now see if the guy cable kuat or not..

the lady who drive against traffic in KL case went silent
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Both fault.

1. Motobodo turn into junction but stay mid of the lane. I would assume she saw the car, but didnt expected the speed are fast, trying her luck to get out to the road.

2. Keretabodo speed for sure. It's a junction and you can't see the motor coming out? For sure playing phone.

Now victim are deceased, car owner will not get easy with this. My highschool friend kena langgar motobodo red light traffic, the investigation and court case haunted him for atleast 3years. RIP to the woman.
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QUOTE(chtan @ May 12 2023, 11:37 AM)
Again, motobodo came out to the main road without looking at the traffic. Typical motobodo.
Also, the car was quite fast on the narrow road there.
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another thing is moto and car in this country can never share the same road wan.

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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
Helmet don't secure to head won't help during accident.
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https://www.facebook.com/100075042578116/vi...204369631925143

this video?
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When it comes to law, you will find motor has no any wrongdoing, she keep her helmet, her speed limit, drive carefully.

It's the car who rear the motor, easily can get charged with speed and reckless driving.
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BM Driver should be banned from road. regarlesslah 2-wheeler riding to the middle of the road. BM Driver can avoid this accident but did not. very likely not paying attention when driving.
anyway, when the police arrived, why still got fighting? who fighting who? motor rider died on the spot?
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Who here is of the opinion that the BMW driver deserves death ☠️ ?
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QUOTE(billy08 @ May 12 2023, 11:52 AM)
BM Driver should be banned from road. regarlesslah 2-wheeler riding to the middle of the road. BM Driver can avoid this accident but did not. very likely not paying attention when driving.
anyway, when the police arrived, why still got fighting? who fighting who? motor rider died on the spot?
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Ban ? Death is more like it.
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QUOTE(billy08 @ May 12 2023, 11:52 AM)
BM Driver should be banned from road. regarlesslah 2-wheeler riding to the middle of the road. BM Driver can avoid this accident but did not. very likely not paying attention when driving.
anyway, when the police arrived, why still got fighting? who fighting who? motor rider died on the spot?
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It's residential area, would be victim's family members who stay there. Dieded on spot.
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That shorty fat guy in blue T, short pant guy in fight is deceased's next of kin?

He attacked 2 persons, believed to be the driver and friend from the bmw. I presume

Kena rear ended ni macam, fatal. really susah dy

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Bodoh ride so slow
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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 12 2023, 11:54 AM)
Bodoh ride so slow
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The deceased just exited from a junction, how fast you expect the deceased to go ?
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ktard: moto should have used her special defensive riding superpowers, radar sense like daredevil to detect incoming madmen in white bmws
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QUOTE(Selectt @ May 12 2023, 11:39 AM)
org buta say motor wrong. the car bang the motor and crash straight into off road, obviously car is wrong la.
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That junction got white lines for all direction
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housing area why want to pecut like that
makcik/pakcik, budak2, anjing/kuceng can keluar one mar

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 11:24 AM)
Wow....... with traffic police around they still beat up the driver... sweat.gif

Anyway, driver probably above speed limit at that stretch of road. Looks like the bike also came out of junction without paying much attention to the car coming from the straight road. Helmet definitely not fasten probably.

RIP.
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like one ktard mentioned, when it happens to your family, it's different.....
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 11:56 AM)


watch first 5 second, moto not keluar from taman
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So the motor keluar from where ?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 11:56 AM)
The deceased just exited from a junction, how fast you expect the deceased to go ?
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Very fast

Normally these people don't care one

Just come out only

I always think one day sure die

I guess today is that day
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housing area why want to pecut like that
makcik/pakcik, budak2, anjing/kuceng can keluar one mar
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That's why all this old people ride motor mmg vavi

Come out like their mother father road
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 12 2023, 11:57 AM)
ktard: moto should have used her special defensive riding superpowers, radar sense like daredevil to detect incoming madmen in white bmws
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she coming out of junction wor...... what superpower do u need? Ain't stopping at junction to come out only when safe is first thing u learn in driving/bike test?
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QUOTE(coyouth @ May 12 2023, 11:59 AM)
like one ktard mentioned, when it happens to your family, it's different.....
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That implied emotional reply instead of rational reply lor...

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:02 PM)
That implied emotional reply instead of rational reply lor...
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Here is a rational reply, deceased is not my family member, I would also whack that SOB.
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keretabodo for sure.... residential area topspeed...

his gf atm maybe tgh syok blow him till cannot react on time to brake...
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If that driver don't die, other riders will also die because of him.
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Jail the driver 10 years minimum, this is murder without motive no matter how you see it

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:04 PM)
Here is a rational reply, deceased is not my family member, I would also whack that SOB.
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Then what is the difference between u and all other jaguh kampong that will beat up others? The jaguh kampong that most ktards blamed why we should continue driving to police station instead of stopping for the victim? blush.gif

How many times have innocent drivers been beaten by jaguh kampong mentality ppl?
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Christ, how many shortcuts and tabs you have open on your browser?
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 09:59 AM)
MOTO NOT KELUAR FROM TAMAN, watch first 5 seconds




at Penang Jalan Loh Poh Heng

woman on moto RIP on the spot
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looks kinda obvious to me the lady on the bike came out of simpang without looking and the bmw didnt have enough time to react. not sure how fast he was driving but come on. reality is, the lady should not have entered the road when there is a car coming.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:07 PM)
Then what is the difference between u and all other jaguh kampong that will beat up others? The jaguh kampong that most ktards blamed why we should continue driving to police station instead of stopping for the victim? blush.gif

How many times have innocent drivers been beaten by jaguh kampong mentality ppl?
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In this case, he completely deserves it. Fcuk this shit. Complete disregard for road safety. If this shit is not given death sentence, other lives will be lost surely.
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 12 2023, 12:13 PM)
looks kinda obvious to me the lady on the bike came out of simpang without looking and the bmw didnt have enough time to react. not sure how fast he was driving but come on. reality is, the lady should not have entered the road when there is a car coming.
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how u explain why the car crash with the bike offroad?
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QUOTE(StorMx @ May 12 2023, 12:07 PM)
Jail the driver 10 years minimum, this is murder without motive no matter how you see it
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I can confirm moto salah, never see on-coming traffic/assuming car will slow down & stop

Moto from small road straight come out and hog into middle of the road

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Look at this moto, from left most to middle of the lane. Asking for trouble.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:13 PM)
In this case, he completely deserves it. Fcuk this shit. Complete disregard for road safety. If this shit is not given death sentence, other lives will be lost surely.
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Every jaguh kampong that beat up others also feel they are sure about who’s wrong until proven otherwise later.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 12 2023, 12:14 PM)
I can confirm moto salah, never see on-coming traffic/assuming car will slow down & stop

Moto from small road straight come out and hog into middle of the road

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Look at this moto, from left most to middle of the lane. Asking for trouble.
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so you're saying car is not at fault?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:15 PM)
Every jaguh kampong that beat up others also feel they are sure about who’s wrong until proven otherwise later.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 12 2023, 12:14 PM)
I can confirm moto salah, never see on-coming traffic/assuming car will slow down & stop

Moto from small road straight come out and hog into middle of the road

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Look at this moto, from left most to middle of the lane. Asking for trouble.
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Moto got salah, but BMW driver also salah. Confirm speeding/not paying attnetion on the road. If not sure can stop/avoid in time
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 09:59 AM)


at Penang Jalan Loh Poh Heng

woman on moto RIP on the spot
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keluar simpang la, watch original video

keluar simpang then terus makan jalan
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
from the bideo, looks like the victim is comin out from the house or junction.

BM mcm tak boleh elak? but car doesnt seems to apply break...very strange

correct unker if wrong
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 11:46 AM)
My sohai ex-gf sit front seat oso dun wan wear seatbelt. When we sit taxi rear seat oso she laugh at me.
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Should jam the brakes. Scare her and see what happen when not belted

I did this to some old people sitting in my car refuse to buckle up. When I get the opportunity to brake hard, I purposely brake hard and see them scared a bit. Then only they start to buckle up.

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Should jam the brakes.  Scare her and see what happen when not belted
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Think both assumed one will give way for the other. Motobodo if smart would have let that char siew pau jalan first then only masuk. The fella should have put 444 for his car maybe better luck.
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 12:20 PM)
ya deleted, sorry saw wrongly
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https://www.google.com/maps/@5.4596991,100....6384!8i8192

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QUOTE(mcdonald13 @ May 12 2023, 12:18 PM)
so you're saying car is not at fault?
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Both at fault as white lines on all direction for that junction.
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both also salah...
one coming out from junction try luck & expect car will stop, one speeding like nobody business, in narrowed road..

RIP to the victim
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Both fault.

Auntie lost her life for being stupid. BMW never slow down at junction or distracted
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ May 12 2023, 10:59 AM)
good visuals

dead motorcyclist might not be 100% innocent in this case

all the deadly combo aligned perfectly to cause this accident - motor came out suddenly, 2-lane road suddenly transitioned to a single residential lane at the wrong spot, opposite lane got vehicles just at the wrong time for beemer not being able to steer away
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Even if true, the Bavarian Moronic Wanker was going way too fast in a residential area.

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Good riddance to the dead biker
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Tak baik macam tu, ppl already dead. This old auntie sometime really blur and slow. Though she is wrong but dont deserve to die.

If rempit zoom out than let car bang die i would say good riddance la
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how u explain why the car crash with the bike offroad?
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panic, tertekan accelerator instead of brake, maybe? dunno.
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If not mistaken, there was a similar case just few months ago right? Lorry hit a motorcycle that exited a junction.
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ May 12 2023, 12:23 PM)
Dia kira salah tu. Saw the down moto down the road, ah tak keluar dari taman already, but keluar dari rumah.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 12 2023, 12:14 PM)
I can confirm moto salah, never see on-coming traffic/assuming car will slow down & stop

Moto from small road straight come out and hog into middle of the road

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Look at this moto, from left most to middle of the lane. Asking for trouble.
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Talk so much blablabla.
But did you notice that white line that goes across the road?

Biker may not do her part by checking for oncoming traffic, but she was on the road first before getting rammed from behind at high speed.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:29 PM)
If not mistaken, there was a similar case just few months ago right? Lorry hit a motorcycle that exited a junction.
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Lorry also never stop at junction, macam BMW ?

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fb comment very funny
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 12 2023, 12:28 PM)
panic, tertekan accelerator instead of brake, maybe? dunno.
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guilty then. all camera has captured the accident, confirm driver lose
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:30 PM)
Lorry also never stop at junction, macam BMW ?
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Cant recall much, need to search for that news again. I only remember the lorry driver got bashed.

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How come this development so special one ? Until road design can become until like this ?
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not to argue with /k, ayam not saying driver no wrong, but... wat if the driver is a rider? rider also will ride fast in straight road wat. ayam point was it is not about car vs moto, it all down to the actions of the rider/driver, and accidents still happen anyway.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:32 PM)
Cant recall much, need to search for that news again. I only remember the lorry driver got bashed.
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Looking at the picture of the houses and road layout at this junction, doesn't it look strange to y'all ?

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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 12 2023, 12:13 PM)
looks kinda obvious to me the lady on the bike came out of simpang without looking and the bmw didnt have enough time to react. not sure how fast he was driving but come on. reality is, the lady should not have entered the road when there is a car coming.
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There is a line
The car should have slow down to a stop if there is vehicle in the way

The moto enter the junction 1st
The bmw road is not a straight road, as there is white line before the junction


You all otak ketam or what?


QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 12 2023, 12:28 PM)
panic, tertekan accelerator instead of brake, maybe? dunno.
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I think he expect the moto to move more to the side of the road after turning into the road

So the young boi overconfident and no step on brake

QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:29 PM)
If not mistaken, there was a similar case just few months ago right? Lorry hit a motorcycle that exited a junction.
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That one slow lorry on a straight road

This one on a 3 way stop junction

QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:29 PM)
Dia kira salah tu. Saw the down moto down the road, ah tak keluar dari taman already, but keluar dari rumah.
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Apa taman apa rumah


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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:30 PM)
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That was on a main road. Trunk road.
Different scenario.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:30 PM)
Lorry also never stop at junction, macam BMW ?
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That case is a straight road?

This one is a 3 way stop
At least the bmw straight road have white line before the junction
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:34 PM)
Eh
Apa taman apa rumah
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:32 PM)
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this also correct. who jalan 1st? bring MBPPP JKR altogether sue la
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QUOTE(Daylight_walker @ May 12 2023, 12:33 PM)
not to argue with /k, ayam not saying driver no wrong, but... wat if the driver is a rider? rider also will ride fast in straight road wat. ayam point was it is not about car vs moto, it all down to the actions of the rider/driver, and accidents still happen anyway.
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Then you need to check back the road

There is a white line across the straight road

So it is not a free straight road

The bmw should have slow down and maybe stop if there is obstruction after the junction
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ May 12 2023, 12:36 PM)
this also correct. who jalan 1st? bring MBPPP JKR altogether sue la
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Whoever reaches the junctions 1st
This is a 3 way stop, white line on the ground
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The opposite car got slow down, that mean the bm saw the motor and wanted overtake but opposite lane suddenly blocked by car so no choice makan balik and bang. That's why many impatient drivers who give way like gonna die, they are many such shitty drivers, ayam encountered a lot, even they stopped then they will honk you non stop
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:38 PM)
Whoever reaches the junctions 1st
This is a 3 way stop, white line on the ground
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okay noted.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 12 2023, 12:14 PM)
I can confirm moto salah, never see on-coming traffic/assuming car will slow down & stop

Moto from small road straight come out and hog into middle of the road

user posted image

user posted image

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Look at this moto, from left most to middle of the lane. Asking for trouble.
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Evidently seen from photos, the position of moto

1) photo 2 - existing a junction into the straight road (enlarge this photo 2, you can see the moto) and
2) photo 3 - moto on the middle of straight of road immediately-after moto exited the junction

See the distance between the 2 photos, why i said 'immediately-after'

Re-edited herebelow as i did not enlarge photo 1.

On the other hand, driver did not stop at junction. White line (stop)

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 12 2023, 12:14 PM)
I can confirm moto salah, never see on-coming traffic/assuming car will slow down & stop

Moto from small road straight come out and hog into middle of the road

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Look at this moto, from left most to middle of the lane. Asking for trouble.
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White line on straight road for what

Hiasan?
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:29 PM)
If not mistaken, there was a similar case just few months ago right? Lorry hit a motorcycle that exited a junction.
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Yes similar but not exactly same.
1) that one no white line for the straight road;
2) that one awek, this one amoi… I can already see the difference in reply wink.gif
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Sthis thread got o many disagreement on road traffic rules.

Does it not make u shudder to think that outside the population also will be 50% unsure about the rules....

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car fault la.. that not a straight road.. is a T-junction road..how the car can speeding like that.
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Stupid shitty drivers everywhere. Drive BMW but tak sempat brake... Wtf.. even my old Toyota I accidentally step on accelerator while in reverse inside house compound, I manage to hard brake trigger ABS before it hit the friggin gate and cause my parents to diu 9 7 me.

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ May 12 2023, 12:41 PM)
Evidently seen from the position of moto.

1) photo 2 - existing a junction into the straight road (enlarge this photo 2, you can see the moto) and
2) photo 3 - moto on the middle of straight of road immediately-after moto exited the junction
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This is BMW view on the junction,

the accident happern after the junction a bit further down


the white line for what?
hiasan?


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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:41 PM)
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White line on straight road for what

Hiasan?
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BMW driver : Yes it's a hiasan. It shouldn't even be there. It's a straight road and its my right of way, I should go first. No one else.

The intelligence of a moron.

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:41 PM)
Yes similar but not exactly same.
1) that one no white line for the straight road;
2) that one awek, this one amoi… I can already see the difference in reply wink.gif
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heres a google over view, updated
(note the red walkway)

the line to stop is there still

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I think it's time we all band together to report this guy.

Cc goldfries se7en
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He's just stating his opinion. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean it's wrong.

It's the same as people saying "padan mukak the woman for wearing sexily, she asked for it (raped, molested)".
Each time I saw posts like that, I'd just ask them "if it's your gf, waifu, daughter, sister, mom, would you say the same?". It's enough to shut them up.

And I don't see you asking everyone to report such sexist posts pun?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:30 PM)
Lorry also never stop at junction, macam BMW ?
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That was on a main road. Trunk road.
Different scenario.

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:44 PM)
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This is BMW view on the junction,

the accident happern after the junction a bit further down
the white line for what?
hiasan?
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You are correct. I missed the white line on straight road of the junction.

I have re-edited my post.

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:44 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

This is BMW view on the junction,

the accident happern after the junction a bit further down
the white line for what?
hiasan?
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The moto there also got white line.
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actually this kind of junction, if no traffic light then dont so confident to drive fast.


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whack 9 him first is right
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My take:
1. Kereta salah: Terlebih laju, tak berhenti di garisan putih, tak nampak macam cuba break/elak.
2. Moto salah: Terus keluar simpang, tak ikat/pasang helmet betul-betul
3. Keluarga/rakan mangsa: pukul pemandu kereta. Pukul sampai mati pun... arwah takkan kembali
4. Segelintir warga /K: cuba mengapi-apikan antara pemandu kereta/motor, dan antara kaum.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:48 PM)
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The area in front of the houses (for the cars to enter/exit the gates) seems to be an afterthought. Feel it is strange, the white lines.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:33 PM)
Looking at the picture of the houses and road layout at this junction, doesn't it look strange to y'all ?
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if you check back the street view

the road BMW coming from was not there at 2018

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the road is made since Jan 2019

user posted image

so last time the Taman Hillview (the moto possible origin, like a gated community)
is the one that uses the Jalan Lo Poh Heng

and with new road, they end up with a 3 way stop, since the side road to Hilview used to be the only road linked to the main road

and the new road would have the stop line as well
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:32 PM)
Cant recall much, need to search for that news again. I only remember the lorry driver got bashed.
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Yup, lorry driver get beaten up becoz emotional jaguh kampong thought they are Judge Dredd, becoz a school kid was killed, but in fact it was the caretaker awek that come out of junction dangerously that cause the kid to die.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:34 PM)
There is a line
The car should have slow down to a stop if there is vehicle in the way

The moto enter the junction 1st
The bmw road is not a straight road, as there is white line before the junction
You all otak ketam or what?
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oh hohoho u dont know alot malaysian's dont know white line = stop

i everyday have to pass by a t junction that has no "main" road.

all sides got a white line, but guess what.

those going straight ingat theyre on the main road, and have the right of way.

just jalan only. i am just waiting for 2 going "straight" people to clash only then see how they argue.

some not even slowing down to look at all.

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ May 12 2023, 12:41 PM)
Evidently seen from photos, the position of moto

1) photo 2 - existing a junction into the straight road (enlarge this photo 2, you can see the moto) and
2) photo 3 - moto on the middle of straight of road immediately-after moto exited the junction

See the distance between the 2 photos, why i said 'immediately-after'

Re-edited herebelow as i did not enlarge photo 1.

On the other hand, driver did not stop at junction. White line (stop)
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Conclusion, both also wrong. But many emotional ktards die die wanna plotek TS title "innocent biker". I wonder if it's awek instead of amoi, will the replies be the same... innocent.gif
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:44 PM)
user posted image

This is BMW view on the junction,

the accident happern after the junction a bit further down
the white line for what?
hiasan?
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Something is wrong about having the stop line (for BMW lane) here. Usually such stop line for traffic at major road exists only at junctions with traffic light. The vehicle from minor road must stop and yield.

Imagine you were driving there - are you really going to stop behind the white line? Conlanfirm kena butsek.
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ May 12 2023, 12:58 PM)
oh hohoho u dont know alot malaysian's dont know white line = stop

i everyday have to pass by a t junction that has no "main" road.

all sides got a white line, but guess what.

those going straight ingat theyre on the main road, and have the right of way.

just jalan only. i am just waiting for 2 going "straight" people to clash only then see how they argue.

some not even slowing down to look at all.
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The problem with those white line for main straight road is that road users unfamiliar with such road would most probably fail to slow down at the white line until too late.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 12:48 PM)
The moto there also got white line.
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heres the crux

from the view of the CCTV the moto oredi enter the main road ~2-3 secs before the car
and seeing how fast the car's travelling
it would seems further away from the POV of the moto

so Moto enter 1st as usual
car fast come no slow down no stop
and the accident happens

QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:55 PM)
The area in front of the houses (for the cars to enter/exit the gates) seems to be an afterthought. Feel it is strange, the white lines.
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check my post below
the BMW road is the new one

used to be the CCTV road and the Side road only

QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:55 PM)
if you check back the street view

the road BMW coming from was not there at 2018

user posted image
the road is made since Jan 2019

user posted image

so last time the Taman Hillview (the moto possible origin, like a gated community)
is the one that uses the Jalan Lo Poh Heng

and with new road, they end up with a 3 way stop, since the side road to Hilview used to be the only road linked to the main road

and the new road would have the stop line as well
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the main story: BMW hit motor.
the focus: why moto don't wear helmet properly.

typical ktards. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:01 PM)
heres the crux

from the view of the CCTV the moto oredi enter the main road ~2-3 secs before the car
and seeing how fast the car's travelling
it would seems further away from the POV of the moto

so Moto enter 1st as usual
car fast come no slow down no stop
and the accident happens
check my post below
the BMW road is the new one

used to be the CCTV road and the Side road only
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I'll play the devil's advocate.

Let's swap vehicle type: BMW the one exiting from the minor lane and moto was coming straight from major road.

Motor hits car and RIP. Who is wrong now?
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QUOTE(robotking123 @ May 12 2023, 12:39 PM)
The opposite car got slow down, that mean the bm saw the motor and wanted overtake but opposite lane suddenly blocked by car so no choice makan balik and bang. That's why many impatient drivers who give way like gonna die, they are many such shitty drivers, ayam encountered a lot, even they stopped then they will honk you non stop
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I will also honk 9 motobodo that came out of junction assuming the world revolves around them.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:01 PM)
heres the crux

from the view of the CCTV the moto oredi enter the main road ~2-3 secs before the car
and seeing how fast the car's travelling
it would seems further away from the POV of the moto

so Moto enter 1st as usual
car fast come no slow down no stop
and the accident happens
check my post below
the BMW road is the new one

used to be the CCTV road and the Side road only
I mean the lines in front of the 3 huge houses. Shouldnt it be a straight dashed line instead of following the contour of the curb. Anyway, what do I know. Maybe different codes.
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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ May 12 2023, 12:58 PM)
oh hohoho u dont know alot malaysian's dont know white line = stop

i everyday have to pass by a t junction that has no "main" road.

all sides got a white line, but guess what.

those going straight ingat theyre on the main road, and have the right of way.

just jalan only. i am just waiting for 2 going "straight" people to clash only then see how they argue.

some not even slowing down to look at all.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:58 PM)
Conclusion, both also wrong. But many emotional ktards die die wanna plotek TS title "innocent biker". I wonder if it's awek instead of amoi, will the replies be the same... innocent.gif
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My own comments will be the sam
the proof is there
logic is there

why play on other sentiments? whistling.gif

QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:00 PM)
Something is wrong about having the stop line (for BMW lane) here. Usually such stop line for traffic at major road exists only at junctions with traffic light. The vehicle from minor road must stop and yield.

Imagine you were driving there - are you really going to stop behind the white line? Conlanfirm kena butsek.
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check back old street view

new road not same as pre 2018

QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:01 PM)
The problem with those white line for main straight road is that road users unfamiliar with such road would most probably fail to slow down at the white line until too late.
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that is not really a main road used by many
its just a wider new road that leads into taman

which one should not speed through
and definitely aware of surrounding more since higher chance of stray incidents happen
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Looks like unker was right, both motobodo and carbodo.

but this time, if the car was slower and the helmet was correctly fasten. Maybe the aunty still alive.


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you'd be surprised how many BMW drivers on the road out there really just keep on pressing their accelerator with no purpose in mind

even the light in front is red or there is a speed bump in front, they still accelerate rclxub.gif

this is why i really support gov remove the petrol subsidy...eventhough i'm just a B40

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QUOTE(StorMx @ May 12 2023, 12:07 PM)
Jail the driver 10 years minimum, this is murder without motive no matter how you see it
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Not going to happen.

Drug-positive, no driving license, killed a navy officer only got a 6.5 years jail sentence.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...cer-in-accident

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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ May 12 2023, 01:01 PM)
the main story: BMW hit motor. FACT
the focus: why moto don't wear helmet properly. FACT

typical ktards. laugh.gif
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If u did read most comments, most arguments are whether biker is as "innocent" as TS title implied.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:05 PM)
check back old street view

new road not same as pre 2018
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The one you posted is new view kan? Why talk about pre 2018 when the accident happened in 2023?

Don't you find the white stop line strange and not supposed to be there? Who's supposed to stop and who's supposed to have right of way if both junctions have stop lines and no traffic lights?
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:01 PM)
heres the crux

from the view of the CCTV the moto oredi enter the main road ~2-3 secs before the car
and seeing how fast the car's travelling
it would seems further away from the POV of the moto
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If the moto did check and see the car coming up at that speed, I doubt she will continue to turn and immediately move to middle of the road.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:04 PM)
I'll play the devil's advocate.

Let's swap vehicle type: BMW the one exiting from the minor lane and moto was coming straight from major road.

Motor hits car and RIP. Who is wrong now?
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if hit belakang BMW
moto wrong
cause that means BMW oredi enter the junction

if hit front fender means car wrong, cause the moto oredi enter junction



QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:04 PM)
I will also honk 9 motobodo that came out of junction assuming the world revolves around them.
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at least you have time to honk
this case maciam no contingency plan for the BMW jer
just power through

QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 01:05 PM)
I mean the lines in front of the 3 huge houses. Shouldnt it be a straight dashed line instead of following the contour of the curb. Anyway, what do I know. Maybe different codes.
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here

user posted image

its actually a double line to prevent overtaking the middle like
but dashed for each house so they can cross to enter the home from the opposite lane


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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
if helmet is secured properly would she survived?
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Perhaps.

Many kapchai riders dont wear helmets properly..so many times see helmets flying off during accident......this is especially so for lady riders because they have the hair up in the tudung...so they can't actually wear it properly.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:18 PM)
Better this shit not happen in Melaka in front of me. Who knows what I might do. I don't even know what I will do.
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You better recondition your mentality now so in future you won't do something that you will regret afterwards.

emo and ego reaction rarely end up well for any party.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:09 PM)
If the moto did check and see the car coming up at that speed, I doubt she will continue to turn and immediately move to middle of the road.
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Many Pen motorcyclists don't even bother to check for traffic when exiting a junction, let alone yield. They're so used to having other vehicles yield to them.
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The junction just before the accident is a "Stop and Go" junction.

From the look the speed of BMW, I am doubtful that BMW did a "stop and go" at the junction before proceeding.

As usual, many Malaysian drivers never ever do "stop and go" at any traffic junction, even with traffic lights.
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I am all for AI driven vehicles in the future. People should no longer die on the road for their own or mistakes of others.

Elon Musk please bring AI cars asap.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 12:48 PM)
He's just stating his opinion. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean it's wrong.

It's the same as people saying "padan mukak the woman for wearing sexily, she asked for it (raped, molested)".
Each time I saw posts like that, I'd just ask them "if it's your gf, waifu, daughter, sister, mom, would you say the same?". It's enough to shut them up.

And I don't see you asking everyone to report such sexist posts pun?
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It looks like she just got out from a junction.

The BMW better be having a dashcam..
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this time round kereta bodo.

but i cant help but think maybe a life wouldnt have lost if the rider wear helmet properly.

i replay video slow mo and see the helmet immediately came off on the first impact.. totally negated any chance of a survival for the rider..

1st impact (which is on the body) helmet already flying out of the head.
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2nd impact (which is on rider head) her head hit the bmw's windscreen. and all that with 0 protection already..
i wouldnt be surprised if its at this point that killed the rider. because human head + windscreen with that much amount of force since the car is travelling at speed.
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so yeah the subsequent landing on tar road + concrete sides + body rolls ensured that death is inevitable liao..

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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:08 PM)
The one you posted is new view kan? Why talk about pre 2018 when the accident happened in 2023?

Don't you find the white stop line strange and not supposed to be there? Who's supposed to stop and who's supposed to have right of way if both junctions have stop lines and no traffic lights?
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cause the main user is those 2 roads

the new one is not lead to any major road

plus the junction there changes from 2 lane to a single taman lane

so no issue with the markings

just a 3 ways stop

everyone that arrive to the junction should slow down ready to a stop, checking before continuing

just as the turn lane into Hillview
there is line
the cars are to slow down to check before turning

seems normal here cause you are slowing down cause of turning
so even when straight, where there is white line across you are to ready to stop when arrive to there
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:29 PM)
If not mistaken, there was a similar case just few months ago right? Lorry hit a motorcycle that exited a junction.
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you know i got some beef with the some bike who did this. they did not stop properly at the junction before going into the main street, instead of slowing down and just follow the road line, exited the junction expecting other motorists to slow down and give way to them.

and then just ride like nothing happens at the main road. mcb punya motobodo.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:12 PM)
Many Pen motorcyclists don't even bother to check for traffic when exiting a junction, let alone yield. They're so used to having other vehicles yield to them.
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more like whole of malaysia.

as the saying goes,

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 12 2023, 01:11 PM)
Perhaps.

Many kapchai riders dont wear helmets properly..so many times see helmets flying off during accident......this is especially so for lady riders because they have the hair up in the tudung...so they can't actually wear it properly.
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Last time when I was still riding, my bro perli me said he saw me with unfasten helmet. But in reality, I've always fasten my helmet, the dangling strap he saw was the excess strap.
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QUOTE(billy08 @ May 12 2023, 11:52 AM)
BM Driver should be banned from road. regarlesslah 2-wheeler riding to the middle of the road. BM Driver can avoid this accident but did not. very likely not paying attention when driving.
anyway, when the police arrived, why still got fighting? who fighting who? motor rider died on the spot?
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Motobodo turned to the main road without checking the incoming traffic and worse eating into the middle of the road. An idiot no less. But the car driver sped on such a narrow road is another dumb S.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:16 PM)
cause the main user is those 2 roads

the new one is not lead to any major road

plus the junction there changes from 2 lane to a single taman lane

so no issue with the markings

just a 3 ways stop

everyone that arrive to the junction should slow down ready to a stop, checking before continuing

just as the turn lane into Hillview
there is line
the cars are to slow down to check before turning

seems normal here cause you are slowing down cause of turning
so even when straight, where there is white line across you are to ready to stop when arrive to there
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That white line means "get ready to stop" or "stop"? I never knew we have a "get ready to stop" white line.

And BMW was going straight, not turning kan,

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 12 2023, 01:17 PM)
more like whole of malaysia.

as the saying goes,
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QUOTE(leymahn @ May 12 2023, 01:16 PM)
you know i got some beef with the some bike who did this. they did not stop properly at the junction before going into the main street, instead of slowing down and just follow the road line, exited the junction expecting other motorists to slow down and give way to them.

and then just ride like nothing happens at the main road. mcb punya motobodo.
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yes motobodo always main keluar sahaja, they expect u must stop for them
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 11:29 AM)
I find drawing white line for straight line road very confusing, unless there's early sign of this, most driver won't be able to stop/slow down from going straight unless the driver is familiar with road knowing in advance of the white line.
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agreed. it can cause accidents by itself. need signage and speed bumps before white line if want to draw white line on straight road
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 12 2023, 01:17 PM)
more like whole of malaysia.

as the saying goes,
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Tatau, I have seen more of them in Png than JB or KV.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:19 PM)
That white line means "get ready to stop" or "stop"? I never knew we have a "get ready to stop" white line.

And BMW was going straight, not turning kan,
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cause entering taman road

its not a main road in the cctv view
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:12 PM)
Many Pen motorcyclists don't even bother to check for traffic when exiting a junction, let alone yield. They're so used to having other vehicles yield to them.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:21 PM)
Tatau, I have seen more of them in Png than JB or KV.
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Ulu area bikers definitely won't stop, urban outskirt bikers probably won't stop also, just like the case here that ended in tragedy.

The awek caretaker that caused the death of the schoolchild after rammed by lorry also same story.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:17 PM)
Last time when I was still riding, my bro perli me said he saw me with unfasten helmet. But in reality, I've always fasten my helmet, the dangling strap he saw was the excess strap.
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some i see. fasten, but for the sake of fastening it.
fasten but not secure. too loose.

and for your safety, anyone wants to buy helmet. please get those with double D ring fastener.
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We need an clear answer from sergeant. It's for awareness and prevention.
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This situation could have been avoided easily
Moto: Look left and right before moving
Car: Stop at white line

Because of 2 seconds want to "faster" = doh.gif
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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
Helmet don't secure to head won't help during accident.
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QUOTE(janszmatt @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
RIP to Moto
Sad to see  the helmet fly after impact
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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
if helmet is secured properly would she survived?
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QUOTE(lznce2679 @ May 12 2023, 10:03 AM)
helmet rider flying oso
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QUOTE(krishtiano86 @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
innocent apa benda? Helmet why never ikat??
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Not to backup motobodo or something, but nature of non fullface helmet, you still have chance of fasterner and helmut slipped out especially during impact. U try hear that apollo helmet, fasten it, then try to remove it by sliding it to the front. U still can do that.

Now try the same with fullface helmet, u need to pull upward to remove helmet so the belt will properly secured to your chin.

Tldr: wear fullface helmet.
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QUOTE(ss_izal @ May 12 2023, 10:18 AM)
wanted to wear full face helmet riding kapcai, but seems weird and unusual for malaysian. if big bike then ok, if big bike pulak wear half face nampak weird also
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You wear helmet for safety, not for recognition from others. Just go for full face lah. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 01:26 PM)
some i see.  fasten, but for the sake of fastening it.
fasten but not secure.  too loose.

and for your safety, anyone wants to buy helmet.  please get those with double D ring fastener.
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It's very tightly fasten lah. The dangling strap is because the strap is very long, after fasten, the excess strap will be dangling in the wind.
Have u actually wear helmet before? blush.gif

I am law abiding and kiasi wan, even driving within my condo compound I will also put on seatbelt.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:24 PM)
cause entering taman road

its not a main road in the cctv view
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Again, does that white line mean "stop" or "slow down" or "get ready to stop"?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:58 PM)
Conclusion, both also wrong. But many emotional ktards die die wanna plotek TS title "innocent biker". I wonder if it's awek instead of amoi, will the replies be the same... innocent.gif
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:11 PM)
You better recondition your mentality now so in future you won't do something that you will regret afterwards.

emo and ego reaction rarely end up well for any party.
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Very true but I can't as it's getting worse if you can only see what I see everyday.
When I drive I am always careful and give riders all the space they need, so that not only me that reaches home safely but they too.

When I ride, the amount of stress is crazy. I have to anticipate every inconceivable damn stupid thing when others are around, so that hopefully I can go home in 1 piece.

If I can follow the rules when I am a driver, I don't see why others cannot ? Bloody ridiculous. This case will most likely be over even before it started and nothing will happen to the BMW driver. Cash is King. Nabeh.

If only this BMW had stopped where the line was, the lady would not be dead.

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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:35 PM)
Again, does that white line mean "stop" or "slow down" or "get ready to stop"?
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That one ask jpj

I myself be careful

At least slow down ready to stop
But will I stop if not needed? whistling.gif

Who knows ?
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lanjiao kereta.. drive so fast what fuck. PHU 88 if i see you one road, konlanfirm i folo u home and make your life miserable!!
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:35 PM)
Again, does that white line mean "stop" or "slow down" or "get ready to stop"?
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solid line means stop. normally will have other road signs/markings too:

user posted image

Get ready to stop or give way is dotted lines:

user posted image
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 01:36 PM)
Very true but I can't as it's getting worse if you can only see what I see everyday.
When I drive I am always careful and give riders all the space  they need, so that not only me that reaches home safely but they too.

When I ride, the amount of stress is crazy. I have to anticipate every inconceivable damn stupid thing when others are around, so that hopefully I can go home in 1 piece.

If I can follow the rules when I am a driver, I don't see why others cannot ? Bloody ridiculous. This case will most likely be over even before it started and nothing will happen to the BMW driver. Cash is King. Nabeh.

If only this BMW had stopped where the line was, the lady would not be dead.
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Fader powerful
Then maybe settled with family member

Further back the road bmw came from
Got powiis

Dunno got related bor whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 01:36 PM)
Very true but I can't as it's getting worse if you can only see what I see everyday.
When I drive I am always careful and give riders all the space  they need, so that not only me that reaches home safely but they too.

When I ride, the amount of stress is crazy. I have to anticipate every inconceivable damn stupid thing when others are around, so that hopefully I can go home in 1 piece.

If I can follow the rules when I am a driver, I don't see why others cannot ? Bloody ridiculous. This case will most likely be over even before it started and nothing will happen to the BMW driver. Cash is King. Nabeh.

If only this BMW had stopped where the line was, the lady would not be dead.
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Bike too risky, it's like a gamble of life. I've pokai twice on bike, one time due to sand on the road, 2nd time due to speedometer cable came off and get caught in the front wheel, end up I 360 degree summersault and land in the middle of the road, luckily no car from behind... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 10:45 AM)
looking like the biker just got onto the main road and didn't see this speeding BMW
I may be wrong.

but we can see that this car driver was speeding.
just like any other typical dickhead BMW drivers....he was driving fast on a residential road.
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Both Bodo.

BMW was driving too fast or was distracted. Moto just come out of intersection without checking. Both didn't stop.

But that said, sometimes coming out of intersection may have idiots Parked at the edge of the junction or idiot home owner plant things in front of Thier house. Sometimes very difficult to see each other. Could be the case neither saw each other.

That's why residential area has low speed limits that NO ONE actually follows. Then something like this happens.
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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ May 12 2023, 01:39 PM)
solid line means stop. normally will have other road signs/markings too:

user posted image

Get ready to stop or give way is dotted lines:

user posted image
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I said this in another thread, but ktards argued with me 10 pages that you don't need to stop if there's no oncoming traffic.
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ May 12 2023, 12:54 PM)
Banyak cepat funeral ad
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Highly likely severe head injury.
Condolence to the family's lost
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lanjiao kereta.. drive so fast what fuck. PHU 88 if i see you one road, konlanfirm i folo u home and make your life miserable!!
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For sure sell the car n get another one la.

Rich fucker settle PM tepi
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:40 PM)
Fader powerful
Then maybe settled with family member

Further back the road bmw came from
Got powiis

Dunno got related bor whistling.gif
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Nasib baik the family member managed to give the nepo baby a few punches.

If not, no justice at all.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:34 PM)
It's very tightly fasten lah. The dangling strap is because the strap is very long, after fasten, the excess strap will be dangling in the wind.
Have u actually wear helmet before? blush.gif

I am law abiding and kiasi wan, even driving within my condo compound I will also put on seatbelt.
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I'm not saying you lah!
so sensitive. i was referring to others.

me never wear helmet?
I have one HJC full face Rhpa70, HJC IS17 and one Shoei GT-air2, all full face.

and for my mountain bike - I have one IXS Trail-Evo AM helmet, and one full face IXS Trigger helmet.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:40 PM)
Fader powerful
Then maybe settled with family member

Further back the road bmw came from
Got powiis

Dunno got related bor whistling.gif
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I read earlier posts got this word powiis, but what the hell is that ?
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QUOTE(new in IT @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
Helmet don't secure to head won't help during accident.
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Looks like hear hit on pillar after helmet came off. Mati worrr...
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 12 2023, 01:28 PM)
This situation could have been avoided easily
Moto: Look left and right before moving
Car: Stop at white line

Because of 2 seconds want to "faster" =  doh.gif
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one more point:
Car: Do not speeding in this type of road
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 01:43 PM)
I'm not saying you lah!
so sensitive.  i was referring to others.

me never wear helmet?
I have one HJC full face Rhpa70, HJC IS17 and one Shoei GT-air2, all full face.

and for my mountain bike - I have one IXS Trail-Evo AM helmet, and one full face IXS Trigger helmet.
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QUOTE(~min~ @ May 12 2023, 01:29 PM)
Not to backup motobodo or something, but nature of non fullface helmet, you still have chance of fasterner and helmut slipped out especially during impact. U try hear that apollo helmet, fasten it, then try to remove it by sliding it to the front. U still can do that.

Now try the same with fullface helmet, u need to pull upward to remove helmet so the belt will properly secured to your chin.

Tldr: wear fullface helmet.
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well said.

however, many are wearing the wrong sized helmet.
Loose.
many of these people think that loose is comfy. tight/snug is not comfy.

I support wearing full face, no matter what motorbike you ride.

Worst kind are those harley davidson riders.
wear open face helmet (turtle, nazi style), no safety jacket, no safety gloves, no safety equipment at all.
Just wear that stupid looking helmet , denim sleeveless jacket, some even just wear the black harley tshirt, and jeans only. as if damn gaya. don't crash. I'll laugh at your road rashes.
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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ May 12 2023, 01:39 PM)
solid line means stop. normally will have other road signs/markings too:

user posted image

Get ready to stop or give way is dotted lines:

user posted image
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I've never seen dotted line like this, is this photo from Msia?
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 01:35 PM)
Again, does that white line mean "stop" or "slow down" or "get ready to stop"?
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You must come to a full stop, whether there are other vehicles or not. 99% of Malaysians do not do that. When they see no incoming vehicles, they go d.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 01:41 PM)
I said this in another thread, but ktards argued with me 10 pages that you don't need to stop if there's no oncoming traffic.
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Those fools are wrong. Try to do this overseas and see whether you would get a saman.

Fully stop is required to ensure that you pay full attention to observe any traffic on other roads, with or without traffic, for safety reason.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 12 2023, 01:41 PM)
Both Bodo.

BMW was driving too fast or was distracted. Moto just come out of intersection without checking. Both didn't stop.

But that said, sometimes coming out of intersection may have idiots Parked at the edge of the junction or idiot home owner plant things in front of Thier house. Sometimes very difficult to see each other. Could be the case neither saw each other.

That's why residential area has low speed limits that NO ONE actually follows. Then something like this happens.
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agreed
many years ago in my taman got one school bus (van) tembung with another car.
apparently both also was speeding in the taman. nothing much for them to say.
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QUOTE(JimmyX @ May 12 2023, 01:46 PM)
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Would like to see dash cam point of view from this BMW, but I guess that unlikely to happen.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 11:58 AM)
That junction got white lines for all direction
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Thats the thing about malaysia road design...suka hati buat line jer but when accident then dunno who at fault
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Everyday this old Proton Iswara Aeroback will speed like he is being chased by the police, even though there is a HUMP in front of my place, a residential area and opposite my place, is the playground.

Someday when this SOB hit someone child or kills a child. Some should not be allowed to drive. Full stop. Just like some who should not be allowed to be our PM etc.

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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
from the bideo, looks like the victim is comin out from the house or junction.

BM mcm tak boleh elak? but car doesnt seems to apply break...very strange

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:16 PM)
cause the main user is those 2 roads

the new one is not lead to any major road

plus the junction there changes from 2 lane to a single taman lane

so no issue with the markings

just a 3 ways stop

everyone that arrive to the junction should slow down ready to a stop, checking before continuing

just as the turn lane into Hillview
there is line
the cars are to slow down to check before turning

seems normal here cause you are slowing down cause of turning
so even when straight, where there is white line across you are to ready to stop when arrive to there
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Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 01:41 PM)
I said this in another thread, but ktards argued with me 10 pages that you don't need to stop if there's no oncoming traffic.
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QUOTE(wdarke @ May 12 2023, 01:49 PM)
You must come to a full stop, whether there are other vehicles or not. 99% of Malaysians do not do that. When they see no incoming vehicles, they go d.
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QUOTE(gaman @ May 12 2023, 01:50 PM)
Those fools are wrong. Try to do this overseas and see whether you would get a saman.

Fully stop is required to ensure that you pay full attention to observe any traffic on other roads, with or without traffic, for safety reason.
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that said

in this case
the damage and injury would be miles less than it was, maybe could have been avoided all together
if only the BMW was able to slow down even not to a stop at the junction
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 01:43 PM)
I read earlier posts got this word powiis, but what the hell is that ?
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QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?
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All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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BM driver is distracted la, obviously can see the motor before the junction. And why so fast in housing area..
Now someone lost a grandma, a wife & a mother ...

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:55 PM)
All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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Means the road design problem. only one side should have line
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car driver wrong, if he didn't stop at white line

but moto driver also wrong, cause she also need to stop at the junction to look right before turning out. no video to prove but i doubt she would turn out if she saw car speeding
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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ May 12 2023, 01:53 PM)
Salah bmw

Dont try to whitewaste the bmw driver
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jgn buat bodo, dua dua ade isuue.

tak payah whitewash motobodo.

PS. bukan whitewaste la bangang, suru berlajar main lanjiao...ini la...

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Stupid ah beng with sling bag.
Not sure coz blurry, in 3rd photo, the ah beng wants to hit back the victim's family members

2 black shirt ah beng + 1 girl (I guess)
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
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I thought police. KNN. Maybe the BMW thought this year is 2018, instead of 2023.
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QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:51 PM)
Thats the thing about malaysia road design...suka hati buat line jer but when accident then dunno who at fault
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its a 3 way stop
nothing special about it

stop before the line before proceed

QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?
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down to who make the 1st move

at that time, the vehicle moving from standstill, even collided will be minor damage
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BM was too fast, and I don't believe he didn't see the motor coming from junction. I bet he was even pressing the pedal to beat the motor, but Innova was oncoming, he couldn't beat the time to cut the motor .. anyway rip auntie
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:55 PM)
All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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I rode bike for 10 years b4 quitting for car. I hope I won't have to revert back to bike ever again after seeing bikers from the point of view as a driver. sweat.gif

Bike too risky, it's like a gamble of life. I've pokai twice on bike, one time due to sand on the road, 2nd time due to speedometer cable came off and get caught in the front wheel, end up I 360 degree summersault and land in the middle of the road, luckily no car from behind...  sweat.gif
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It works both ways.

I started out on a bike. Then drive for 25 years. Still makes me more aware of bikes when driving. Switch back to bikes past 2 years....and from the drivers pov, you know sometimes drivers just don't see you.

With that experience you do what you have to to stay safe. As a senior rider we can see how these kapchai riders ride is just courting disaster.

If a car driver can fail to see a big bike with foglights on, quite certainly they won't see a kapchai either. With these guys filtering at speed, cilok here and there, it's a matter of time they run into trouble.


Incidentally, just yesterday in the rain on my bike, I nearly got run off the road by a kapchai that just cilok into my lane without looking. I was going 60 on the left lane staying on the right side as the left side had a lot of water (3 lane road), This idiot just overtook a car on my right and just came into my lane. If he would have just even clipped my panniers and lost it, he would have been run over by the car on my right. GG right there. Lucky I managed to brake in time and give him the room go cilok in.

Horned 9 him. But at least he acknowledged his mistake and apologized.

Lucky I had ABS if not I would have lost my front when I had to e brake.
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my guess is the bmw doin something (could be playing handphone) and accelerate on the road as he see no car infront. Then suddenly 1 motor turn into the road and then kena bang and die cause bmw no brake
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:59 PM)
.......then come out rock paper scissors...... tongue.gif
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After that rock papers scissors right ? 2 Kaki balance.

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QUOTE(galkelly @ May 12 2023, 01:56 PM)
BM driver is distracted la, obviously can see the motor before the junction. And why so fast in housing area..
that's what i said earlier.
the biker was already on that main road few seconds before he came ramming her from behind. no way that car didn't see her coming out.
but looking at the way he was speeding, i'm not surpised he couldn't even react to avoid hitting her.


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Looks like 3 series 2017-2018, correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe he just got his "new" BMW car and got excited.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 02:05 PM)
that's what i said earlier.
the biker was already on that main road few seconds before he came ramming her from behind.  no way that car didn't see her coming out.
but looking at the way he was speeding, i'm not surpised he couldn't even react to avoid hitting her.
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I think nobody dispute the fact that the driver is too fast, but still doesn't whitewash the very high possibility that the biker didn't look out for oncoming traffic and just happy go lucky exiting from that junction. The way the biker moved to the middle of the road before impact suggest the biker totally unaware of the surrounding and oncoming traffic.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:48 PM)
I've never seen dotted line like this, is this photo from Msia?
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That photo is from UK. Malaysia also got dotted lines across road, but mostly at entrance to roundabout where a full stop isn't always required

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ May 12 2023, 02:00 PM)
It works both ways.

I started out on a bike. Then drive for 25 years. Still makes me more aware of bikes when driving. Switch back to bikes past 2 years....and from the drivers pov, you know sometimes drivers just don't see you.

With that experience you do what you have to to stay safe. As a senior rider we can see how these kapchai riders ride is just courting disaster.

If a car driver can fail to see a big bike with foglights on, quite certainly they won't see a kapchai either. With these guys filtering at speed, cilok here and there, it's a matter of time they run into trouble.
Incidentally, just yesterday in the rain on my bike, I nearly got run off the road by a kapchai that just cilok into my lane without looking. I was going 60 on the left lane staying on the right side as the left side had a lot of water (3 lane road), This idiot just overtook a car on my right and just came into my lane. If he would have just even clipped my panniers and lost it, he would have been run over by the car on my right. GG right there. Lucky I managed to brake in time and give him the room go cilok in.

Horned 9 him. But at least he acknowledged his mistake and apologized.

Lucky I had ABS if not I would have lost my front when I had to e brake.
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if possible, change to a more noticeable exhaust system. to make yourself more aware to other road users.
and change your horn to a bigger horn. throw away that beep beep, get a real horn. it helps a lot.
lastly, install a bike dashcam on your bike (front and rear cam). anything happen, at least there is evidence.


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QUOTE(ketupatjahat @ May 12 2023, 01:54 PM)
Very confusing line. if everyone come to the junction and same time and stop then who go first?
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got this from fb comments. very much confusing.
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 01:57 PM)
jgn buat bodo, dua dua ade isuue.

tak payah whitewash motobodo.

PS. bukan whitewaste la bangang, suru berlajar main lanjiao...ini la...
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 02:09 PM)
as a big biker, my advice to you is to always ride with the high beam.
if possible, change to a more noticeable exhaust system.  to make yourself more aware to other road users.
and change your horn to a bigger horn.  throw away that beep beep, get a real horn.  it helps a lot.
lastly, install a bike dashcam on your bike (front and rear cam).  anything happen, at least there is evidence.
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But in Msia, anything happened between bike vs car, auto car wrong wan from the abang police, so evidence not really necessary sweat.gif
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QUOTE(doublecool @ May 12 2023, 01:56 PM)
car driver wrong, if he didn't stop at white line

but moto driver also wrong, cause she also need to stop at the junction to look right before turning out. no video to prove but i doubt she would turn out if she saw car speeding
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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 01:57 PM)
jgn buat bodo, dua dua ade isuue.

tak payah whitewash motobodo.

PS. bukan whitewaste la bangang, suru berlajar main lanjiao...ini la...
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no proof say the moto no care the car

she might look, the car far away

then turn in, go in front of the CCTV house, around 10m then the BMW hit her

the Junction BMW to The impact around 15m

so the speed the car is going, it will look way back when the moto arrive at the junction

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:12 PM)
But in Msia, anything happened between bike vs car, auto car wrong wan from the abang police, so evidence not really necessary  sweat.gif
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but here always firstly say motorbodo fault.
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The road leading to the housing junction are quite long.

BMW driver as usual will drives like lanjiao and cant stop on time or distracted with mobile or something.

I think the road before the junction need to put up traffic light (those with warning blinking yellow light) due to the very long road leading to the housing junction as cars will be in higher speed there.

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Driving in Penang, you always need to anticipate bikes appearing out of nowhere from the side lanes. I always slow down for such roads due to past experiences. Even though some bikers are at fault, at least try to mitigate or avoid an accident.

And yeah, I'm not sure of other states, but I always see the BMW's and other luxury cars here never bother to put signal lights, cutting queues, speeding more often...not sure why that is.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 02:13 PM)
no proof say the moto no care the car

she might look, the car far away

then turn in, go in front of the CCTV house, around 10m then the BMW hit her

the Junction BMW to The impact around 15m

so the speed the car is going, it will look way back when the moto arrive at the junction
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QUOTE(leymahn @ May 12 2023, 02:09 PM)
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fail JPJ test is failed

what so confusing
see line stop laa

wat so hard about it?

malaysian driver like lembu kambing ayam jer

no lights, cannot use own brains to do stuff
always need others to suapkan
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 02:13 PM)
no proof say the moto no care the car

she might look, the car far away

then turn in, go in front of the CCTV house, around 10m then the BMW hit her

the Junction BMW to The impact around 15m

so the speed the car is going, it will look way back when the moto arrive at the junction
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if she noticed the car, why she go into middle of the road right before impact? That alone suggest the biker totally unaware of the surrounding.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 01:08 PM)
If u did read most comments, most arguments are whether biker is as "innocent" as TS title implied.
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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ May 12 2023, 02:16 PM)
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I think nobody dispute the fact that the driver is too fast, but still doesn't whitewash the very high possibility that the biker didn't look out for oncoming traffic and just happy go lucky exiting from that junction. The way the biker moved to the middle of the road before impact suggest the biker totally unaware of the surrounding and oncoming traffic.
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Izzit confirm that the moto came out from that junction? Becoz that could change the whole story.
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QUOTE(dman @ May 12 2023, 02:15 PM)
The road leading to the housing junction are quite long.

BMW driver as usual will drives like lanjiao and cant stop on time or distracted with mobile or something.

I think the road before the junction need to put up traffic light (those with warning blinking yellow light) due to the very long road leading to the housing junction as cars will be in higher speed there.
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I hump would be more effective.
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ May 12 2023, 10:08 AM)
properly wearing a good helmet would have saved her life in this case
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 02:16 PM)
fail JPJ test is failed

what so confusing
see line stop laa

wat so hard about it?

malaysian driver like lembu kambing ayam jer

no lights, cannot use own brains to do stuff
always need others to suapkan
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This is simpang budi bicara. If u meet wrong driver at the junction, then gone case. Junction with traffic lights are more stable.

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Google maps have proper measurement tools, why don't you try it out? biggrin.gif
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not to say detective
but mcchin comment makes sense. sounds logic too.
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ May 12 2023, 02:17 PM)
Izzit confirm that the moto came out from that junction? Becoz that could change the whole story.
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The only way to "confirm" is to get the dash cam footage from the BMW. But looking at how the biker stray from left to center of the road right after that junction, very very high chance the bike just exit from the junction.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 02:15 PM)
but here always firstly say motorbodo fault.
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Anyway, drivers need dashcam to protect themselves in case of accident with bike.
But bike no need dash cam evidence as abang polis always side with biker unless the driver can prove otherwise with dashcam footage (pray pray biker not in blind spot of the video). sweat.gif
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:16 PM)
if she noticed the car, why she go into middle of the road right before impact? That alone suggest the biker totally unaware of the surrounding.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:20 PM)
The only way to "confirm" is to get the dash cam footage from the BMW. But looking at how the biker stray from left to center of the road right after that junction, very very high chance the bike just exit from the junction.
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Not stray. Road design is such that the lane the deceased was exiting from actually enters into the BMW lane which is a Single Lane, it's because the houses have special curb design that takes up valuable road space until terpaksa stray into the BMW path of travel.
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QUOTE(TanahGagal @ May 12 2023, 02:27 PM)
Nothing can get away from "hypersonic missile"
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 02:30 PM)
Not stray. Road design is such that the lane the deceased was exiting from actually enters into the BMW lane which is a Single Lane, it's because the houses have special curb design that takes up valuable road space until terpaksa stray into the BMW path of travel.
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That's my deduction as a former biker. No reason for her to stray into middle of the narrow lane if she didn't just exit from junction or if she is aware of the oncoming car.
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QUOTE(leymahn @ May 12 2023, 02:09 PM)
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:38 PM)
That's my deduction as a former biker. No reason for her to stray into middle of the narrow lane if she didn't just exit from junction or if she is aware of the oncoming car.
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Some bikers (and cars) come out of a junction, slowly and continues to ride/drive slowly, even though there is an incoming car. They expect the car to slow down. To them, they reached the junction first, so they have the right of way. This is very common in Penang, unfortunately. To me, both were in the wrong, to a certain degree. It's just tragic that one has lost her life.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:12 PM)
But in Msia, anything happened between bike vs car, auto car wrong wan from the abang police, so evidence not really necessary  sweat.gif
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If any abang police tell you are at fault even if you have evidence like dashcam, tell him you will bring the matter to court, no worries, your insurance company will help you get a lawyer.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 02:38 PM)
That's my deduction as a former biker. No reason for her to stray into middle of the narrow lane if she didn't just exit from junction or if she is aware of the oncoming car.
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I need bro Imp Bron help as an expert witness. He is good with distance, time and speed.

The problem with accidents is speed differential.

The slow speed that the deceased was travelling when the deceased exited the junction, the deceased may not even seen that the BMW was there or the deceased may have seen the BMW but it is too far away. In the deceased judgement if the deceased did see the BMW, it would be too far away and it was safe to pass. Besides the BMW has to stop.

The HIGH speed that the BMW was moving in, the BMW would have covered so much distance in such a short span of time. Even after colliding with the deceased, the BMW was still unable to stop until further down the road.

If Imp Bron could work out those figures, it would be fantastic.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:01 PM)
I need bro Imp Bron help as an expert witness. He is good with distance, time and speed.

The problem with accidents is speed differential.

The slow speed that the deceased was travelling when the deceased exited the junction, the deceased may not even seen that the BMW was there or the BMW may be too far away. In the deceased judgement if the deceased did see the BMW it would be too far away and it was safe to pass. Besides the BMW has to stop.

The HIGH speed that the BMW was moving in, the BMW would have covered so much distance in such a short span of time. Even after colliding with the deceased, the BMW was still unable to stop until further down the road.

If Imp Bron could work out those figures, it would be fantastic.
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police probably got dashcam footage from the BMW.

Anyway, driver definitely guilty. But if proven the biker also salah, maybe slightly less punishment if driver got good lawyer.

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 03:05 PM)
police probably got dashcam footage from the BMW.

Anyway, driver definitely guilty. But if proven the biker also salah, maybe slightly less punishment if driver got good lawyer.
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A good lawyer means out of court settlement. Just like the Kajang-Bangi Highway Murder case.

Moral of the story for bikers. Tengok baik baik. Tengok salah mampos.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:06 PM)
A good lawyer means out of court settlement. Just like the Kajang-Bangi Highway Murder case.
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murder is criminal charge wor? can settle out of court?
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A good lawyer means out of court settlement. Just like the Kajang-Bangi Highway Murder case.
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criminal case can do out of court settlement? i thought out of court settlement only for civil case
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murder is criminal charge wor? can settle out of court?
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From the beginning I said it was murder and the police did charge under murder. But the case vanished. Until today nothing. Maybe I was dreaming that day and there was no murder on highway. Cash is King 👑.

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I dunno why many ktards says that moto dont stop at junction... the speed she make when going into the straight lane is slow meaning that she could stop earlier.... she might going into the lane when she saw the car still far away or due of the white line at the straight lane she might think the driver will stop too....
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Road accidents are not considered "murder case" even someone is killed, its always reckless driving, unless you found evidence that the driver has motive from the beginning.

The penalty for murder case in Malaysia is always death sentence if found guilty.
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Road accidents are not considered "murder case" even someone is killed, its always reckless driving, unless you found evidence that the driver has motive from the beginning.

The penalty for murder case in Malaysia is always death sentence if found guilty.
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the car drive too fast lah. From the CCTV seems like no brake at all.
The junction also got a line on it, means you need to stop or at least slow down even that's straight road.
6y6k cannot run away.
But the helmet also one contribution for the rider dead.
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QUOTE(zenjet @ May 12 2023, 03:15 PM)
Road accidents are not considered "murder case" even someone is killed, its always reckless driving, unless you found evidence that the driver has motive from the beginning.

The penalty for murder case in Malaysia is always death sentence if found guilty.
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That case had sufficient evidence for a murder charge. It was much more than just a ordinary reckless driving case. The police are not stupid to recklessly charge that Innova driver for murder. Where is case ? What happened to it ? Good lawyer. Yup more like it. You happy, my client happy, case closed.

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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:02 AM)
from the bideo, looks like the victim is comin out from the house or junction.

BM mcm tak boleh elak? but car doesnt seems to apply break...very strange

correct unker if wrong
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Yea from video victim coming out. I don't think white car even notice with the speed he is going.
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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 12 2023, 03:27 PM)
Yea from video victim coming out. I don't think white car even notice with the speed he is going. Ok
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:55 PM)
if you check back the street view

the road BMW coming from was not there at 2018

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and with new road, they end up with a 3 way stop, since the side road to Hilview used to be the only road linked to the main road

and the new road would have the stop line as well
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So the road was upgraded and the straight (main) road was extended. And yet, the stop lines were still maintain as it was before.

Just checked google street view. Looks like there's no warning sign that there's a junction ahead along the new widen stretch.

For sake of discussing what went wrong, motorists shouldn't be faulted if they didn't stop. They are on the straight main road, would be ridiculous to expect drivers to slam on the brakes when they saw the white line from a near short distance away.

For sake of the accident (and how the investigating officer would see it too), it is reckless driving.

Why? I have only see the photo of the point of accident (when the motorcyclist was hit) and not the video. Imho, the motorbike is already directly in front of the car. The car hit her directly from behind.

Ok. Not going to comment more as this will be a case in court.

Section 41, reckless driving causing death, at least 5k5y.







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moto speed compared to the car and moto opposite lane almost same fast... come BMW speed like want terberak inside pants
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ May 12 2023, 03:34 PM)
So the road was upgraded and the straight (main) road was extended. And yet, the stop lines were still maintain as it was before.

Just checked google street view. Looks like there's no warning sign that there's a junction ahead along the new widen stretch.

For sake of discussing what went wrong, motorists shouldn't be faulted if they didn't stop. They are on the straight main road, would be ridiculous to expect drivers to slam on the brakes when they saw the white line from a near short distance away.

For sake of the accident (and how the investigating officer would see it too), it is reckless driving.

Why? I have only see the photo of the point of accident (when the motorcyclist was hit) and not the video. Imho, the motorbike is already directly in front of the car. The car hit her directly from behind.

Ok. Not going to comment more as this will be a case in court.

Section 41, reckless driving causing death, at least 5k5y.
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Nope. Town Council had those lines drawn across the road, everyone abides by it. No 2 ways about it.

Bro., do you understand why the Town Council had those lines drawn in the first place or not on the straight road ?

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:00 PM)
she coming out of junction wor...... what superpower do u need? Ain't stopping at junction to come out only when safe is first thing u learn in driving/bike test?
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From bystanders words, the car memang play phone while driving and not paying attention to the road. 100% car's fault.
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 12 2023, 03:41 PM)
From bystanders words, the car memang play phone while driving and not paying attention to the road. 100% car's fault.
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Nabeh play phone, amoi dead. Mana justice ?
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ May 12 2023, 03:34 PM)
So the road was upgraded and the straight (main) road was extended. And yet, the stop lines were still maintain as it was before.

Just checked google street view. Looks like there's no warning sign that there's a junction ahead along the new widen stretch.

For sake of discussing what went wrong, motorists shouldn't be faulted if they didn't stop. They are on the straight main road, would be ridiculous to expect drivers to slam on the brakes when they saw the white line from a near short distance away.

For sake of the accident (and how the investigating officer would see it too), it is reckless driving.

Why? I have only see the photo of the point of accident (when the motorcyclist was hit) and not the video. Imho, the motorbike is already directly in front of the car. The car hit her directly from behind.

Ok. Not going to comment more as this will be a case in court.

Section 41, reckless driving causing death, at least 5k5y.
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coming from a school area POWIIS, (not saying they are from there)
should a driver be more alert?

or izzit like singaporean
at home country kwai kwai chai, woff woff

but pass the imigresen, act like tought guy, speeding, throwing rubish etc

so the BMW drebar pass the school area, and though can speed through and through?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:39 PM)
Nope. Town Council had those lines drawn across the road, everyone abides by it. No 2 ways about it.

Bro., do you understand why the Town Council had those lines drawn in the first place or not on the straight road ?
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Fuiyo 20 pages.

Amoi tetek besar going to kalah?
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QUOTE(hirano @ May 12 2023, 03:41 PM)
From bystanders words, the car memang play phone while driving and not paying attention to the road. 100% car's fault.
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Bystanders so awesome can see what driver doing in a fast moving car? sweat.gif
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even news removed the videos
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 03:43 PM)
coming from a school area POWIIS, (not saying they are from there)
should a driver be more alert?

or izzit like singaporean
at home country kwai kwai chai, woff woff

but pass the imigresen, act like tought guy, speeding, throwing rubish etc

so the BMW drebar pass the school area, and though can speed through and through?
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Managed to view the video, tq to above post. (Post #383).

See the video again and the moments after impact. Not going to comment more.

The 5k5y is referring to 5k fine and 5 years jail if found guilty.

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Fuiyo 20 pages.

Amoi tetek besar going to kalah?
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this one tarak enough keywords

only cina n moto sweat.gif
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seems like the motor came out from junction without stoping.


just like that motor + truck in Telok Gong Klang a month ago.

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 03:46 PM)
Bystanders so awesome can see what driver doing in a fast moving car?  sweat.gif
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got someone i know who lives around there, mentioned about it.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:37 PM)
That one ask jpj

I myself be careful

At least slow down ready to stop
But will I stop if not needed? whistling.gif

Who knows ?
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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ May 12 2023, 01:39 PM)
solid line means stop. normally will have other road signs/markings too:

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Get ready to stop or give way is dotted lines:

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:55 PM)
All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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That's mentioned by mcchin earlier. I told him normally such stop signs at all junctions are present only at junctions with traffic light, not this junction without traffic light. Takkan everyone stop and play scissors, paper, stone to see who moves first?

He said the solid line means slow down, to which I asked for confirmation (because I didn't know we have road marking like that which represents "slow down" instead of "stop") and then he asked me to ask JPJ pulak.

QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:37 PM)
That one ask jpj

I myself be careful

At least slow down ready to stop
But will I stop if not needed? whistling.gif

Who knows ?
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this one tarak enough keywords

only cina n moto  sweat.gif
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Cina white BMW langgar mati Cina moto, Cina family member pukul Cina BMW wor.
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How to race like that?
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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ May 12 2023, 03:44 PM)
But I think the city or town council is negligent.
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For that kena open another file to determine if indeed the Town Council was indeed negligent. 🤣🤣🤣

The reason there were lines on the straight road is because anyone coming to the T-junction from the taman, they are allowed to turn left unto the single lane road, that the BMW was speeding on. Hence that is the reason why the lines are there, so that road users follow the road signs.

No 2 ways about it. The reason why there is an accident is because the BMW thought that the lines were just for hiasan or got too much paint, so Town Council workers suka suka draw what they like.

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QUOTE(GTA5 @ May 12 2023, 02:29 PM)
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How to race like that?
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50 pages keretabodo blame motobodo blame keretabodo.


Lesssgooooooo!
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 03:54 PM)
50 pages keretabodo blame motobodo blame keretabodo.
Lesssgooooooo!
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Since no racing involve at least /ktards could give their honest opinion without being prejudice of race.

So now it's motobodo vs keretabodo.

Though I am always against motobodo, in this case it is definitely keretabodo that caused the death.
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QUOTE(daniel2006 @ May 12 2023, 03:49 PM)
seems like the motor came out from junction without stoping.
just like that motor + truck in Telok Gong Klang a month ago.
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how you know?

the brake line was way back
well out of CCTv view

you have special eye that can see something that is not there izzit?

QUOTE(hirano @ May 12 2023, 03:49 PM)
got someone i know who lives around there, mentioned about it.
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well kes like this
like SKT case
some kids then claim she play with phone
but later when police ask those witness that please come forwards
then nobody came forward

not discounting your acquittance
but unless being reported by the news according to the police statements

it can be just a emotionally charged perceptions

QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 03:49 PM)
That's mentioned by mcchin earlier. I told him normally such stop signs at all junctions are present only at junctions with traffic light, not this junction without traffic light. Takkan everyone stop and play scissors, paper, stone to see who moves first?

He said the solid line means slow down, to which I asked for confirmation (because I didn't know we have road marking like that which represents "slow down" instead of "stop") and then he asked me to ask JPJ pulak.
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my grouse here is,

the BMW side have line but without the stop sign

so I cannot be sure what is proper here
the best is to stop

less, but better than the current is to slow down atleast
and this tragedy will no happen, or at least happens at a lesser extent

QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 03:52 PM)
How to race like that?
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then it will be a class warfare
car vs moto

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 03:57 PM)
Since no racing involve at least /ktards could give their honest opinion without being prejudice of race.

So now it's motobodo vs keretabodo.

Though I am always against motobodo, in this case it is definitely keretabodo that caused the death.
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If we compare with SKT case:

1. BMW cannot say night time very dark cannot see moto.

2. CCTV show BMW clearly speeding.

3. BMW cannot say moto not supposed to be on the road.

4. Moto wrong for not wearing helmet properly and maybe didn't ride properly, but if BMW didn't drive so fast, moto rider probably didn't die.


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 04:00 PM)
If we compare with SKT case:

1. BMW cannot say night time very dark cannot see moto.

2. CCTV show BMW clearly speeding.

3. BMW cannot say moto not supposed to be on the road.

4. Moto wrong for not wearing helmet properly and maybe didn't ride properly, but if BMW didn't drive so fast, moto rider probably didn't die.
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5. Even if BMW have dashcam, it will show all his wrong doing

Checkmate!

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 03:52 PM)
For that kena open another file to determine if indeed the Town Council was indeed negligent. 🤣🤣🤣

The reason there were lines on the straight road is because anyone coming to the T-junction from the taman, they are allowed to turn left unto the single lane road, that the BMW was speeding on. Hence that is the reason why the lines are there, so that road users follow the road signs.

No 2 ways about it. The reason why there is an accident is because the BMW thought that the lines were just for hiasan or got too much paint, so Town Council workers suka suka draw what they like.
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Actually kan, this kind of T junction is so common it's everywhere in malaysia. From small road coming out, sure, got solid line. But draw two solid lines on the straight road without traffic lights, that's odd.

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QUOTE(daniel2006 @ May 12 2023, 03:49 PM)
seems like the motor came out from junction without stoping.
just like that motor + truck in Telok Gong Klang a month ago.
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Such a lousy bmw driver. Just a slight move to the right would have prevented this accident. Instead the bmw slammed on the gas .
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ May 12 2023, 04:04 PM)
Such a lousy bmw driver. Just a slight move to the right would have prevented this accident. Instead the bmw slammed on the gas .
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many + junction also like that, nothing weird.
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Everyone has to stop at this junction. This is why the lines are there.
Bike likely arrived at the junction first so she have the right of way.
BMW is wrong, no doubt about it. They will have to deal with the consequences.

Like they say, the graveyard is full of people who have the right of way. Rest in peace soya lady.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 12 2023, 04:00 PM)
If we compare with SKT case:

1. BMW cannot say night time very dark cannot see moto.

2. CCTV show BMW clearly speeding.

3. BMW cannot say moto not supposed to be on the road.

4. Moto wrong for not wearing helmet properly and maybe didn't ride properly, but if BMW didn't drive so fast, moto rider probably didn't die.
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Yeah. It is clear that who caused the death here. No doubt. Probably worse sentence than SKT got last time.

And if not for keretabodo, probably the worst would be a broken arm.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 04:01 PM)
Actually kan, this kind of T junction is so common it's everywhere in malaysia. But draw two solid lines on the straight road without traffic lights, that's odd.
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Irregardless whether it is odd or not, when we drive it must be based on road signs and signages.

If we drive based what is common, bila uncommon aje terus accident betul ? Mana boleh ini macam, betul ?



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QUOTE(ernie ball @ May 12 2023, 04:05 PM)
Everyone has to stop at this junction. This is why the lines are there.
Bike likely arrived at the junction first so she have the right of way.
BMW is wrong, no doubt about it. They will have to deal with the consequences.

Like they say, the graveyard is full of people who have the right of way. Rest in peace soya lady.
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Betul ke graveyard full of people who have the right of way ? Gila sial. What an eye opener. 🙂
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father of bmw driver kena hentam kuat, head jahit 4 benang

victim family claimed not them sent ppl to beat him,

it was random public ppl hentam him

https://www.kwongwah.com.my/20230512/%e3%80...8a%a8%e7%b2%97/

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 04:08 PM)
Irregardless whether it is odd or not, when we drive it must be based on road signs and signages.

If we drive based what is common, bila uncommon aje terus accident betul ? Mana boleh ini macam, betul ?
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Of course we react accordingly. But trust me, you drive based on your common instinct more than you think. That's why a proper road planning and design is important.
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 04:12 PM)
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father of  bmw driver kena hentam kuat, head jahit 4 benang

victim family claimed not them sent ppl to beat him,

it was random public ppl hentam him

https://www.kwongwah.com.my/20230512/%e3%80...8a%a8%e7%b2%97/
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I don't approved of vigilante/jaguh kampong justice.

Hope the police manage to identify and charge everyone of them from the video footage. innocent.gif
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father of  bmw driver kena hentam kuat, head jahit 4 benang

victim family claimed not them sent ppl to beat him,

it was random public ppl hentam him

https://www.kwongwah.com.my/20230512/%e3%80...8a%a8%e7%b2%97/
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google translate with the W lol
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why need to sound so complicated till 22 pages, BMW no hit brakes but go Gas! Gas! Gas! that cause the whole accident, that's all. Motor no matter how clumsy still not consider sudden or too fast speed coming out from the junction
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:19 PM)
I don't approved of vigilante/jaguh kampong justice.

Hope the police manage to identify and charge everyone of them from the video footage. innocent.gif
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The son is the one driving why whack the father? Really sohai no brain punya all this ppl. Hope PDRM catch all this sohai and throw them into jail
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PDRM said moto came out from the simpang/taman

at Penang Jalan Loh Poh Heng

woman on moto RIP on the spot

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incident happened when motor already few meter away from the junction. BMW drive too fast lah. If the motor rackless the BMW should have knock hew at the junction not few meter away from the junction. BMW didn't brake at all. Not even got tyre skid mark.
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The son is the one driving why whack the father? Really sohai no brain punya all this ppl. Hope PDRM catch all this sohai and throw them into jail
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ppl whacking son, father tried to stop, kena whacked sekali
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Who is wrong in "Moto innocent RIP, hit by white BMW (PHU 88), ppl hentam BMW driver" lowyat forum discussion?

Google Bard AI reply:

Based on the information provided in the Lowyat forum discussion, it is difficult to say definitively who is wrong. However, it is clear that there is a lot of anger and frustration on both sides.

The people who are blaming the BMW driver are likely doing so because they believe that he was driving recklessly and that he is responsible for the accident. They may also be angry that the BMW driver did not stop to help the victim.

The BMW driver, on the other hand, is likely defending himself by saying that he was not driving recklessly and that he did not see the motorcycle until it was too late. He may also be angry that he is being blamed for something that was not his fault.
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How to race like that?
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Beemer is expensive car.

When hit AND killed motorcyclist, people feel angry.

But does that make it reasonable or legal for them to vent their anger on the driver's father, by hitting him until he had to get the wound on his head stitched??
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 09:59 AM)

woman on moto RIP on the spot

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Finally a media that points out biker likely exit from junction before hit....
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From accident become rape case. Damn Penangites so hardcore.
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Both also wrong..moto go out never see incoming car not surprising given pg moto rider but then BMW drive too fast in this kind of road also
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:28 PM)
doh.gif  biggrin.gif

Who is wrong in "Moto innocent RIP, hit by white BMW (PHU 88), ppl hentam BMW driver" lowyat forum discussion?

Google Bard AI reply:

Based on the information provided in the Lowyat forum discussion, it is difficult to say definitively who is wrong. However, it is clear that there is a lot of anger and frustration on both sides.

The people who are blaming the BMW driver are likely doing so because they believe that he was driving recklessly and that he is responsible for the accident. They may also be angry that the BMW driver did not stop to help the victim.

The BMW driver, on the other hand, is likely defending himself by saying that he was not driving recklessly and that he did not see the motorcycle until it was too late. He may also be angry that he is being blamed for something that was not his fault.
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Hard to race... But still 20 pages, lol
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/ktards ability to make a mountain out of a molehill. respect.
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The son is the one driving why whack the father? Really sohai no brain punya all this ppl. Hope PDRM catch all this sohai and throw them into jail
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Same style with the lorry & Motorbodo accident at the Kampung?
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/ktards ability to make a mountain out of a molehill. respect.
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Better yet this thread no "tetek besar" or anything... just very randomly blown out of proportion sweat.gif

I cannot find plausible explanation to this... anyone wanna share ur theory why this thread got so big?
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 04:25 PM)
incident happened when motor already few meter away from the junction. BMW drive too fast lah. If the motor rackless the BMW should have knock hew at the junction not few meter away from the junction. BMW didn't brake at all. Not even got tyre skid mark.
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No driving/riding school ever teach anyone being few meter away from junction means he/she exited the junction correctly. You didn't stop at the junction before exit, you failed the driving/riding test.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 04:08 PM)
Irregardless whether it is odd or not, when we drive it must be based on road signs and signages.

If we drive based what is common, bila uncommon aje terus accident betul ? Mana boleh ini macam, betul ?
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Remember what I said about road markings don't need additional signage since they are standing rules? laugh.gif

Malaysians like to take law into own hands. If a law doesn't make sense or due to perceived poor planning, they choose to ignore it.

Anyway, BMW looks like driving quite fast for a road that small.
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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 04:38 PM)
Better yet this thread no "tetek besar" or anything... just very randomly blown out of proportion  sweat.gif

I cannot find plausible explanation to this... anyone wanna share ur theory why this thread got so big?
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It's keretabodo vs motobodo. And it doesn't help when most /ktards are speedsters like keretabodo. So they are trying to say "it takes 2 to tango".
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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 04:38 PM)
Better yet this thread no "tetek besar" or anything... just very randomly blown out of proportion  sweat.gif

I cannot find plausible explanation to this... anyone wanna share ur theory why this thread got so big?
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ketard hate motorcyclist. so, most of the post is blaming the motor. posting google maps pics and all.

after knowing the race, they become undivided.
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All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 04:41 PM)
It's keretabodo vs motobodo. And it doesn't help when most /ktards are speedsters like keretabodo. So they are trying to say "it takes 2 to tango".
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Need to speed so not lane hogging
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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 04:38 PM)
Better yet this thread no "tetek besar" or anything... just very randomly blown out of proportion  sweat.gif

I cannot find plausible explanation to this... anyone wanna share ur theory why this thread got so big?
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 04:41 PM)
It's keretabodo vs motobodo. And it doesn't help when most /ktards are speedsters like keretabodo. So they are trying to say "it takes 2 to tango".
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You mean the BMW will still crash into the biker if the biker follow rules of stopping at the junction and exit only when traffic is cleared? blush.gif
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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 12 2023, 04:41 PM)
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Ya that road can go on. No problem.

The rest must stop there look at each other.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:39 PM)
No driving/riding school ever teach anyone being few meter away from junction means he/she exited the junction correctly. You didn't stop at the junction before exit, you failed the driving/riding test.
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how you know she didn't stop at the junction?
Maybe she did stop at the junction and saw the BMW still far away only exit. Or she saw the BMW is at the inside lane which suppose to turn left not going straight.
What I saw in the video is she already fully exit the junction and the BMW rear ended her bike.
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Such a lousy bmw driver. Just a slight move to the right would have prevented this accident. Instead the bmw slammed on the gas .
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i believe from the start the bmw was already slamming on the gas.
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 04:49 PM)
how you know she didn't stop at the junction?
Maybe she did stop at the junction and saw the BMW still far away only exit. Or she saw the BMW is at the inside lane which suppose to turn left not going straight.
What I saw in the video is she already fully exit the junction and the BMW rear ended her bike.
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That's the point lo. Nobody know mah. So don't use the word "innocent moto" lo.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:45 PM)
You mean the BMW will still crash into the biker if the biker follow rules of stopping at the junction and exit only when traffic is cleared? blush.gif
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Traffic is clear is subjective. Do you really wait until no cars coming before coming out of a junction? or you gauge the distance of the car and the speed limit (bear in mind there is solid stop line there) before coming out?
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 04:12 PM)
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father of  bmw driver kena hentam kuat, head jahit 4 benang

victim family claimed not them sent ppl to beat him,

it was random public ppl hentam him

https://www.kwongwah.com.my/20230512/%e3%80...8a%a8%e7%b2%97/
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Aiyoh go whack the father for what ? Haiya. Whack his CBK la.

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 04:49 PM)
how you know she didn't stop at the junction?
Maybe she did stop at the junction and saw the BMW still far away only exit. Or she saw the BMW is at the inside lane which suppose to turn left not going straight.
What I saw in the video is she already fully exit the junction and the BMW rear ended her bike.
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 04:49 PM)
how you know she didn't stop at the junction?
Maybe she did stop at the junction and saw the BMW still far away only exit. Or she saw the BMW is at the inside lane which suppose to turn left not going straight.
What I saw in the video is she already fully exit the junction and the BMW rear ended her bike.
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Yup, bm at fault since the car hit from the motorcycle back
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 04:49 PM)
how you know she didn't stop at the junction?
Maybe she did stop at the junction and saw the BMW still far away only exit. Or she saw the BMW is at the inside lane which suppose to turn left not going straight.
What I saw in the video is she already fully exit the junction and the BMW rear ended her bike.
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Kids are not advised to cross road by themselves because they lack the ability to judge the speed of oncoming vehicles.

I would expect a licensed road user to be better at it. Anyway, bad decision on the road can end in tragedy, whether not stopping when exiting junction or failure to judge oncoming traffic speed.
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That's the point lo. Nobody know mah. So don't use the word "innocent moto" lo.
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I just said motor fully exit and BMW rear ended the motor. If motor is reckless, the incident should happened at the junction.
Didn't said "innocent moto".

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Ohhhh so it takes 4 ppl only to create megathread and this time is "kereta vs motor" argument. Got it, I can finally sleep tonight.

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victim family claimed BMW driver & his family attitude were very lansi & arrogant

after bang ppl, not even an apology from any of them

they said: anything, we talk in court

he also removed the dashcam quickly n not willing to show the recording on the spot
https://www.kwongwah.com.my/?p=1352293


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Ya that road can go on. No problem.

The rest must stop there look at each other.
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T-junction right of way rules prevail. Look at each other shouldn't happen.

But in merehsia all rebut to go home pangsai. Deswai got flying helmet.

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The rest must stop there look at each other.
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salahkan helmet tak ketat pulak...dah terang2 kereta bawak laju tak brake langsung even on impact...helmet or not sure die kena gilis
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 04:51 PM)
Traffic is clear is subjective. Do you really wait until no cars coming before coming out of a junction? or you gauge the distance of the car and the speed limit (bear in mind there is solid stop line there) before coming out?
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Cleared as in safe to exit of course, which in this case not safe to exit.
Judging from the sambil lewa speed the biker was exiting and even straying into the middle of the narrow lane as the impact happened, very high probability the biker didn't bother watch out for oncoming vehicles before exiting the junction.
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QUOTE(knumskul @ May 12 2023, 04:56 PM)
T-junction right of way rules prevail. Look at each other shouldn't happen.

But in merehsia all rebut to go home pangsai. Deswai got flying helmet.
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Actually, it's difficult to judge in this case, the motorbike already entered fully into the main road before getting rear ended. Normally this won't count as sudden entering lane as bike already completed turn.

In anycase, doesn't matter even if bike is right, she lost her life so no point saying "I'm right".
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If you got from behind you salah dy

Unless motor counter traffic flow

Plus it is in housing area


Rumor says driver is penang money game boss
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Cleared as in safe to exit of course, which in this case not safe to exit.
Judging from the sambil lewa speed the biker was exiting and even straying into the middle of the narrow lane as the impact happened, very high probability the biker didn't bother watch out for oncoming vehicles before exiting the junction.
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There is a stop there, it is always safe to exit, except when there is keretabodo.
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Why ?

So that I hope everyone follows and abides by the road and traffic regulations, because I want to go home alive and I trust other riders too (the sane ones of course).

You from which country baru landed in Malaysia ?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:59 PM)
Cleared as in safe to exit of course, which in this case not safe to exit.
Judging from the sambil lewa speed the biker was exiting and even straying into the middle of the narrow lane as the impact happened, very high probability the biker didn't bother watch out for oncoming vehicles before exiting the junction.
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It housing area, unlike on highway, you do expect there will be surprise exit of vehicle

So BMW driver kantoi speeding
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There is a stop there, it is always safe to exit, except when there is keretabodo.
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Even there isn't, it is housing area, BMW is still too fast
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Yes got news mentioned that
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 11:24 AM)
Wow....... with traffic police around they still beat up the driver... sweat.gif

Anyway, driver probably above speed limit at that stretch of road. Looks like the bike also came out of junction without paying much attention to the car coming from the straight road. Helmet definitely not fasten probably.

RIP.
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Both also at fault. Only difference is moto amoi ded. If BMW jam break, might have saved amoi but he tarak skill & bawak laju.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:54 PM)
Kids are not advised to cross road by themselves because they lack the ability to judge the speed of oncoming vehicles.

I would expect a licensed road user to be better at it. Anyway, bad decision on the road can end in tragedy, whether not stopping when exiting junction or failure to judge oncoming traffic speed.
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QUOTE(premier239 @ May 12 2023, 04:56 PM)

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Quickly hide dashcam. Innocent la tu.
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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 04:59 PM)
Actually, it's difficult to judge in this case, the motorbike already entered fully into the main road before getting rear ended. Normally this won't count as sudden entering lane as bike already completed turn.

In anycase, doesn't matter even if bike is right, she lost her life so no point saying "I'm right".
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It wasn't safe to enter the lane, not about who entered 1st. Still considered as 'sudden entering'.

If about who entered lane 1st, if I cross road on foot and car bang me is the car at fault? I fully entered the road already.

Regardless who is at fault, biker lost her life. Could've been prevented from both ends, especially the side which has higher risk of injury.

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QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 04:59 PM)
Actually, it's difficult to judge in this case, the motorbike already entered fully into the main road before getting rear ended. Normally this won't count as sudden entering lane as bike already completed turn.

In anycase, doesn't matter even if bike is right, she lost her life so no point saying "I'm right".
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Walaowei...... not sure how driving school teaches ppl nowadays, exiting junction properly is not just about whether you managed to fully exit, it's about you fully exit in a safe condition.

Getting hit upon fully exit is not how you supposed to do it. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Seoliem @ May 12 2023, 04:58 PM)
salahkan helmet tak ketat pulak...dah terang2 kereta bawak laju tak brake langsung even on impact...helmet or not sure die kena gilis
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At that speed, dunno if the deceased spinal cord putus the moment impacted the BMW or not. Hopefully autopsy can determine this.
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 04:47 PM)
Ya that road can go on. No problem.

The rest must stop there look at each other.
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if 3 sides also got stop line, should be the first car that stop first can go first.


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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 05:08 PM)
Walaowei...... not sure how driving school teaches ppl nowadays, exiting junction properly is not just about whether you managed to fully exit, it's about you fully exit in a safe condition.

Getting hit upon fully exit is not how you supposed to do it. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:54 PM)
Kids are not advised to cross road by themselves because they lack the ability to judge the speed of oncoming vehicles.

I would expect a licensed road user to be better at it. Anyway, bad decision on the road can end in tragedy, whether not stopping when exiting junction or failure to judge oncoming traffic speed.
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sorry for your kid lost
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 12 2023, 05:12 PM)
if 3 sides also got stop line, should be the first car that stop first can go first.
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Obviously the BMW wasn't the first to stop at the line.
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dont know what happen, but according to CCTV, why bmw speeding in junction? lol that feels like at least 80km/h

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 05:08 PM)
At that speed, dunno if the deceased spinal cord putus the moment impacted the BMW or not. Hopefully autopsy can determine this.
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see the first crash. this guy survived. Lucky for him.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 05:00 PM)
Plus it is in housing area
Rumor says driver is penang money game boss
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Again....


Driver or driver's father?

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 05:17 PM)


see the first crash.  this guy survived.  Lucky for him.
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I think he did fasten his helmet properly and wearing a proper size helmet, but still fly out.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 05:00 PM)
If you got from behind you salah dy

Unless motor counter traffic flow

Plus it is in housing area
Rumor says driver is penang money game boss
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share the source see see

for sure they not doing proper biz i suppose, since attitude very lansi
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 05:17 PM)


see the first crash.  this guy survived.  Lucky for him.
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His landed on his bum and luckily he had slowed down too. If he had landed on that vehicle, the momentum could cause some serious injuries. The deceased wasn't even wearing a riding gear. Imagine the impact.
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'victim family claimed BMW driver & his family attitude were very lansi & arrogant

after bang ppl, not even an apology from any of them

they said: anything, we talk in court

he also removed the dashcam quickly n not willing to show the recording on the spot'


thx hero police just wayang protecting the sei sohai hamkachan entitled father n son and let ppl hemtam him 99 before masuk lokap

damn sad tht woman gone in mother's day
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 05:17 PM)


see the first crash.  this guy survived.  Lucky for him.
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Helmet looks not buckled.

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 05:03 PM)
Even there isn't, it is housing area, BMW is still too fast
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Exactly. Housing are should be around 30km/h only. At that speed you should be able to react to any kiddobodo, motobodo, keretabodo, etc2.
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Help you make the thread blow up bigger mah... u r already post count lead in this thread biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ May 12 2023, 05:23 PM)
Exactly. Housing are should be around 30km/h only. At that speed you should be able to react to any kiddobodo, motobodo, keretabodo, etc2.
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The date of accident ayam think is 8th may,

And it is not viral until now


Got magic ayam think

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