QUOTE(sikongma @ May 12 2023, 10:04 AM)
Better to be bedridden than dead right[BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father
[BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father
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May 12 2023, 10:15 AM
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May 15 2023, 12:09 PM
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Ok I say it's salahan D4P
Why? How come T junction, the main road got line to stop? The traffic should be smooth by letting straight have priority. |
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May 15 2023, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 15 2023, 12:22 PM) The line shouldn't be there in the first place.i can't believe ktards so bodoh agreeing with a line on the road lmao. I really can't brain the logic for the stop line at main road in a T junction. Whoever drew that line don't understand road marking rules.It's not a traffic light, it's a t junction |
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May 15 2023, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 15 2023, 12:31 PM) Same rules la. Why must have line there.Straight always have priority, doesn't matter if housing or normal road. You don't want to create too many exceptions to reduce error. edit: unless it is a crossroad, then it's understandable. This is a T junction. This post has been edited by delon85: May 15 2023, 12:41 PM |
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May 15 2023, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 15 2023, 12:50 PM) it is very common in housing area Not common in all housing area though. Maybe it's not for human.but malaysia driver don't care one, hantam ja then ask why got line there? not logic.. gov should change to fit my driving pattern My area got speed bump on main road at T junction but no line. Even the speed bump is not at all the T junctions. This post has been edited by delon85: May 15 2023, 12:56 PM |
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May 15 2023, 10:32 PM
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May 15 2023, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 15 2023, 10:54 PM) there are stop lines for all lanes coming from each junction It's flawed logic if you compare it to roundabout. Roundabout are a lane on its own, every car trying to enter roundabout is the same as trying to enter another lane. That is why cars already inside roundabout have priority. that means whoever there first is given priority, very similar to a roundabout. You don't enter roundabout without stopping at all. All parties should stop at the junction and give priority to whoever appears at the junction first. this kind of junction exists in my neighbourhood too but of course many ignorant drivers choose to ignore the stop line and continue to speed up without stopping. Similar to a roundabout, i've seen speeding drivers purposely sped up (from the other junction) and not stopping although i was at the junction first waiting to enter the roundabout. I'm NOT referring to those who are already inside the roundabout. You're imposing roundabout rules on a T junction which doesn't work, both in terms of safety and smooth traffic flow. |
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May 15 2023, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 11:09 PM) If car sondol another vehicle from the back, it is the car's fault ler. This is basic undang2. You cannot blame the vehicle in front for suddenly stopping or wadnot. No idea where you're trying to goQUOTE(Blofeld @ May 15 2023, 11:10 PM) That's on you.It's ridiculous to have stop line on main road in a T junction. Logically it doesn't make sense. If they really want cars to slow down on main road at a T junction, put a speed bump. Rich hillview resident may have paid to paint a stop line, but not generous enough to build a speed bump. |
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May 15 2023, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 11:09 PM) If car sondol another vehicle from the back, it is the car's fault ler. This is basic undang2. You cannot blame the vehicle in front for suddenly stopping or wadnot. Ok going back to this post, following this basic undang of yours, no dashcam and no other witness, I put my car, which is in front of your car, in reverse gear running into your car.IO would take a look at the situation, follow your undang and conclude you're at fault. I'll just claim your insurance and walk away. That's what you get for following the book blindly. In real world, IO would just have a look at all angles and come out with report based on situation. |
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May 15 2023, 11:33 PM
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Just to add, I don't side with moto or beemer. Moto basically gambled and paid with her life. Beemer drove like a retard by not being aware while speeding. nebula87 liked this post
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May 15 2023, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 11:36 PM) Well, situation now is that the car was speeding at a housing area and sondol the moto, wasn't it? It wasn't the onty who reverse her moto and hit the car, rite? But in my example and follow your book, you're still at fault.What I say doesn't matter though, my point is IO will decide. I'm just telling you roundabout reason doesn't work on T junction even with stop line. What if I tell you in the whole stretch of Jln Loh Poh Heng, that is the only stop line on the main road for all the T junctions on that road. What would you say? Tmn Hillview residents too rich to pay for stop line but too poor for speed bump? |
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May 16 2023, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 15 2023, 11:59 PM) You are presenting too many "what-ifs". And your analogy of the onty reversing and hitting the car does not hold water as shown in the cctv. Also a moto cannot reverse. I don't care about aunty though, she's dead. Anything else, IO will decide no matter what I said. This is the point you're missing. Reread my replies.A stop line is a stop line. He has no business speeding through a stop line and hitting a target that has no means of defense. But if I'm a motorist at that junction, I'll be sure to look at any vehicles on the right before entering the main road, stop line or no stop line on main road. And hope I don't misjudge their speed while doing that. This post has been edited by delon85: May 16 2023, 12:05 AM |
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May 16 2023, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 16 2023, 06:47 AM) Kekwa Did you even see your own maps? 1, 3, 4 are technically crossroads. The one in cheras in arguably a T junction, but there is a single way one-lane on one side of the road, that road is in front of shop lot. Got to ask your majlis which side is the main road.You must be new here Here's another junction with painted line Opps that one is in Penang, nearby one Maybe Hillview go pay for it What about this one in Selangor? Hillview orang go open crab shop ka? Okay here Johor baru? Betoi ka Hillview orang kaya Speed bump tamau support but support white line? Then go main road some more No need taman Here in Melaka, as they say Don't mess with malaka! Hillview ada pay also ka? Let see when you gonna start with the "I feel...." It doesn't matter what the fuck you feel, okay? Again I ask you, why in the whole stretch of that main road, only that particular junction got stop line? There are more than 5 T junctions on that road. QUOTE(mcchin @ May 16 2023, 06:57 AM) How you say she gamble Where is the proof car is travelling at 100kmph? If you know the speed of the car and is verifiable, let me know.At the time she at the junction to out in front of the CCTV house is 2.5 sec approx At that time a car traveling 100kmph can cover more than 70m At junction see car 70m back cannot enter If she have stop for line 2 secs to look left or right The car is almost double that away 140m Cannot enter then? What is gambled here is the car high speed cover a lot of distance in a short time (that's speed for you) which can be easily mistaken as the car is that far away Where is the proof that she didn't stop What is certain, that the CCTV show the location of the impact, proven the moto is travelling well in a straight road by the time of impact And that the car is travelling at high speed, higher than normal when entering the junction to be seen that fast at the point of impact |
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May 16 2023, 08:38 AM
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May 16 2023, 08:55 AM
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May 16 2023, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2023, 08:56 AM) That's not what I asked isn't it.Are there stop lines on main road at other at T junctions on Jalan Loh Poh Heng? Why only that T junction got stop line? This post has been edited by delon85: May 16 2023, 09:01 AM |
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May 16 2023, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2023, 09:05 AM) you can ask penang municipal council. why ask here? The original question wasn't for you though.that is not justification for not obeying road marking But since you replied, thought you'd be smarter. Go checkback my other post that leads to that question. That T junction should have had a speed bump rather than a stop line. |
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May 16 2023, 09:13 AM
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May 16 2023, 09:14 AM
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May 16 2023, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 16 2023, 09:13 AM) So even a cross road have 4 way stop with no traffic lights Crossroad rules not the same as T junction rules though. You failed your undang you talked so much about?What are people expected to do there? Stop before the line lah, apa lagi And please go see the history of that road, it is newly made from 2019 Before that the main road is just the CCTV road and turn to hill view The "straight" road you claim is not the main road ever as it can be seen here For the 100kmph, all I am saying is a car travelling at 100kmph van cover 70m over 2.5secs The driver did claimed to say he slow down at the junction So extrapolate as you will what speed he is doing before the junction sto "slow down" at the junction So history is important here Go check the gmap The road is new linked to the taman The majlis wanna do that, then you an hero pandai dun follow cause of you feelings? Kek Same lah ha Please lain Kali check dulu baru shoot mouth So the speed is only what you said. I can also say he's moving at 60 kmph and this turns into I-assume-you-assume. Not good for discussion. You should be the one checking, since you lack knowledge. |
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