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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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post May 12 2023, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(karazure @ May 12 2023, 10:09 AM)
the streetview dunno updated till when, cant be sure if this is the spot.

coz unker cannot find the red patch on empty land from the camera angle.
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The lights, the gates, seems to fit

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the opposite wall features and bushes fits also

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post May 12 2023, 10:25 AM

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if road ada line in junction
but no berhenti signs means what arrr?
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post May 12 2023, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 12 2023, 10:28 AM)
showcase bmw sapu corner ?
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i think bmw view is this

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and amoi came out from this junction

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so again

line on the road, but no BERHENTI sign, how??

oh btw
theres a POWIIS further in the road the BMW suspected to come from

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post May 12 2023, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(PepegaMan @ May 12 2023, 10:11 AM)
Looks like a long, straight road.

BMW testing top speed ke
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the straight road from POWIIS to the junction , at the junction there have white line on 3 sides

but no BERHENTI sign, apa maksud dia?
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post May 12 2023, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ May 12 2023, 10:43 AM)
what ? u never play phone while driving before? i do it all the time and x pernah crash pun. ok je
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insaf lah

you only need 1 time like this dude
baru nak tergadah?
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post May 12 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 10:45 AM)
looking like the biker just got onto the main road and didn't see this speeding BMW
I may be wrong.

but we can see that this car driver was speeding.
just like any other typical dickhead BMW drivers....he was driving fast on a residential road.
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the road the BMW have a White line at the junction
but no berhenti sign
how? need to stop? or no stop?
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post May 12 2023, 10:53 AM

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Red= BMW is suspected to be travelling from
Green= Motocycle come out of junction
Yellow= impact


junction on both have line
but the moto should have a Berhenti sign

also at the security bit

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post May 12 2023, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:00 AM)
Obviously the car driver didn't even bother slowing down when there is a line.
just tekan only showing off his german powered car.
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maybe he expect the moto to stay leftmost so he can then not press the brake pedal

and cilok past it, impressing the girl on board


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post May 12 2023, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ May 12 2023, 11:01 AM)
Is the guy family member?
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obviously

the moto came out from a gated like taman

so the home should be nearby
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post May 12 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ May 12 2023, 11:00 AM)

not saying the rider is not wrong....if i'm that rider and seeing a car coming at this speed.
i'll stop and let it pass.
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well the moto might slow or stop

and the car seems far away
and normal taman 40kmph speed migh make it seems safe to come out

mana tau at 80-100kmph
the car arrive too fast

my say is always the speeder must be capable to react to surroundings
and not the surrounding react to the speeder
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post May 12 2023, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(ralyon @ May 12 2023, 11:07 AM)
Got dash cam from bmw? Have to see what happened before that accident.
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its taman road
the immediate before the right of the video is a junction
with 3 side with white line


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post May 12 2023, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 12 2023, 12:13 PM)
looks kinda obvious to me the lady on the bike came out of simpang without looking and the bmw didnt have enough time to react. not sure how fast he was driving but come on. reality is, the lady should not have entered the road when there is a car coming.
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There is a line
The car should have slow down to a stop if there is vehicle in the way

The moto enter the junction 1st
The bmw road is not a straight road, as there is white line before the junction


You all otak ketam or what?


QUOTE(homicidal85 @ May 12 2023, 12:28 PM)
panic, tertekan accelerator instead of brake, maybe? dunno.
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I think he expect the moto to move more to the side of the road after turning into the road

So the young boi overconfident and no step on brake

QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:29 PM)
If not mistaken, there was a similar case just few months ago right? Lorry hit a motorcycle that exited a junction.
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That one slow lorry on a straight road

This one on a 3 way stop junction

QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:29 PM)
Dia kira salah tu. Saw the down moto down the road, ah tak keluar dari taman already, but keluar dari rumah.
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Eh
Apa taman apa rumah


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post May 12 2023, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:30 PM)
Lorry also never stop at junction, macam BMW ?
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That case is a straight road?

This one is a 3 way stop
At least the bmw straight road have white line before the junction
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post May 12 2023, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Daylight_walker @ May 12 2023, 12:33 PM)
not to argue with /k, ayam not saying driver no wrong, but... wat if the driver is a rider? rider also will ride fast in straight road wat. ayam point was it is not about car vs moto, it all down to the actions of the rider/driver, and accidents still happen anyway.
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Then you need to check back the road

There is a white line across the straight road

So it is not a free straight road

The bmw should have slow down and maybe stop if there is obstruction after the junction
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post May 12 2023, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ May 12 2023, 12:36 PM)
this also correct. who jalan 1st? bring MBPPP JKR altogether sue la
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Whoever reaches the junctions 1st
This is a 3 way stop, white line on the ground
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post May 12 2023, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 12 2023, 12:14 PM)
I can confirm moto salah, never see on-coming traffic/assuming car will slow down & stop

Moto from small road straight come out and hog into middle of the road

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Look at this moto, from left most to middle of the lane. Asking for trouble.
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White line on straight road for what

Hiasan?
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post May 12 2023, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ May 12 2023, 12:41 PM)
Evidently seen from the position of moto.

1) photo 2 - existing a junction into the straight road (enlarge this photo 2, you can see the moto) and
2) photo 3 - moto on the middle of straight of road immediately-after moto exited the junction
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This is BMW view on the junction,

the accident happern after the junction a bit further down


the white line for what?
hiasan?


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post May 12 2023, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 12:41 PM)
Yes similar but not exactly same.
1) that one no white line for the straight road;
2) that one awek, this one amoi… I can already see the difference in reply wink.gif
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heres a google over view, updated
(note the red walkway)

the line to stop is there still

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post May 12 2023, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 12 2023, 12:33 PM)
Looking at the picture of the houses and road layout at this junction, doesn't it look strange to y'all ?
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if you check back the street view

the road BMW coming from was not there at 2018

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the road is made since Jan 2019

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so last time the Taman Hillview (the moto possible origin, like a gated community)
is the one that uses the Jalan Lo Poh Heng

and with new road, they end up with a 3 way stop, since the side road to Hilview used to be the only road linked to the main road

and the new road would have the stop line as well
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post May 12 2023, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 12:48 PM)
The moto there also got white line.
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heres the crux

from the view of the CCTV the moto oredi enter the main road ~2-3 secs before the car
and seeing how fast the car's travelling
it would seems further away from the POV of the moto

so Moto enter 1st as usual
car fast come no slow down no stop
and the accident happens

QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2023, 12:55 PM)
The area in front of the houses (for the cars to enter/exit the gates) seems to be an afterthought. Feel it is strange, the white lines.
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check my post below
the BMW road is the new one

used to be the CCTV road and the Side road only

QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:55 PM)
if you check back the street view

the road BMW coming from was not there at 2018

user posted image
the road is made since Jan 2019

user posted image

so last time the Taman Hillview (the moto possible origin, like a gated community)
is the one that uses the Jalan Lo Poh Heng

and with new road, they end up with a 3 way stop, since the side road to Hilview used to be the only road linked to the main road

and the new road would have the stop line as well
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