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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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mushigen
post May 12 2023, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 12 2023, 10:19 AM)
I think it's time we all band together to report this guy.

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He's just stating his opinion. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean it's wrong.

It's the same as people saying "padan mukak the woman for wearing sexily, she asked for it (raped, molested)".
Each time I saw posts like that, I'd just ask them "if it's your gf, waifu, daughter, sister, mom, would you say the same?". It's enough to shut them up.

And I don't see you asking everyone to report such sexist posts pun?
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post May 12 2023, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 12:44 PM)
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This is BMW view on the junction,

the accident happern after the junction a bit further down
the white line for what?
hiasan?
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Something is wrong about having the stop line (for BMW lane) here. Usually such stop line for traffic at major road exists only at junctions with traffic light. The vehicle from minor road must stop and yield.

Imagine you were driving there - are you really going to stop behind the white line? Conlanfirm kena butsek.
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post May 12 2023, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:01 PM)
heres the crux

from the view of the CCTV the moto oredi enter the main road ~2-3 secs before the car
and seeing how fast the car's travelling
it would seems further away from the POV of the moto

so Moto enter 1st as usual
car fast come no slow down no stop
and the accident happens
check my post below
the BMW road is the new one

used to be the CCTV road and the Side road only
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I'll play the devil's advocate.

Let's swap vehicle type: BMW the one exiting from the minor lane and moto was coming straight from major road.

Motor hits car and RIP. Who is wrong now?
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post May 12 2023, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:05 PM)
check back old street view

new road not same as pre 2018
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The one you posted is new view kan? Why talk about pre 2018 when the accident happened in 2023?

Don't you find the white stop line strange and not supposed to be there? Who's supposed to stop and who's supposed to have right of way if both junctions have stop lines and no traffic lights?
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post May 12 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:09 PM)
If the moto did check and see the car coming up at that speed, I doubt she will continue to turn and immediately move to middle of the road.
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Many Pen motorcyclists don't even bother to check for traffic when exiting a junction, let alone yield. They're so used to having other vehicles yield to them.
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post May 12 2023, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:16 PM)
cause the main user is those 2 roads

the new one is not lead to any major road

plus the junction there changes from 2 lane to a single taman lane

so no issue with the markings

just a 3 ways stop

everyone that arrive to the junction should slow down ready to a stop, checking before continuing

just as the turn lane into Hillview
there is line
the cars are to slow down to check before turning

seems normal here cause you are slowing down cause of turning
so even when straight, where there is white line across you are to ready to stop when arrive to there
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That white line means "get ready to stop" or "stop"? I never knew we have a "get ready to stop" white line.

And BMW was going straight, not turning kan,

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post May 12 2023, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 12 2023, 01:17 PM)
more like whole of malaysia.

as the saying goes,
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Tatau, I have seen more of them in Png than JB or KV.
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post May 12 2023, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:24 PM)
cause entering taman road

its not a main road in the cctv view
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Again, does that white line mean "stop" or "slow down" or "get ready to stop"?
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post May 12 2023, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:37 PM)
That one ask jpj

I myself be careful

At least slow down ready to stop
But will I stop if not needed? whistling.gif

Who knows ?
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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ May 12 2023, 01:39 PM)
solid line means stop. normally will have other road signs/markings too:

user posted image

Get ready to stop or give way is dotted lines:

user posted image
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ May 12 2023, 01:55 PM)
All three sides got white line. All stop there (must stop according to above posts) you look me i look you.
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That's mentioned by mcchin earlier. I told him normally such stop signs at all junctions are present only at junctions with traffic light, not this junction without traffic light. Takkan everyone stop and play scissors, paper, stone to see who moves first?

He said the solid line means slow down, to which I asked for confirmation (because I didn't know we have road marking like that which represents "slow down" instead of "stop") and then he asked me to ask JPJ pulak.

QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:37 PM)
That one ask jpj

I myself be careful

At least slow down ready to stop
But will I stop if not needed? whistling.gif

Who knows ?
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post May 12 2023, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 04:19 PM)
I don't approved of vigilante/jaguh kampong justice.

Hope the police manage to identify and charge everyone of them from the video footage. innocent.gif
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Agreed.

This shows kampung justice also happens in other race, not just M as ktards like to point out all the time.
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post May 12 2023, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 09:23 PM)
how you know motor didn't stop first before continue to make turn?

you got some magic crystal ball?

anyway whatever motor rider did isn't matter anymore, since she is already death

you can't jail her corpse right?
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I disagree. It can help exonerate the car driver, if he is indeed not guilty (to which I reserve my judgement because I can't see what is not shown by the video, although he did appear to me to be driving at high speed).
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post May 12 2023, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 12 2023, 09:28 PM)
This is Penang aunty uncle method of riding motorbike. It just come out and expect you to slow down.
If you come to Penang, please becareful.
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Not referring to this case because can't see any video on this, but in general this is the Penang way of riding and it is a Satu Malaysia thing (you see all races, both men and women, both young and old doing this).
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 12 2023, 09:39 PM)
U can't. Drive way above speed limit can be categorized as Reckless driving causing death. There is no way he can escape already. 1 point is enough to nail him down.
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I'm referring to the "anyway whatever motor rider did isn't matter anymore, since she is already death" comment. So if rider did something that contributed to the accident, she will bear some liability and the car driver's liability is reduced. So it matters what the rider did.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 09:55 PM)
this proportional liability only apply in civil suit

for criminal charge such as this driver is facing, there is no such thing
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Which law is this? What makes this a criminal charge?
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post May 13 2023, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(qsub @ May 13 2023, 09:43 AM)
Even it is BANNED, you will still have this problem. Every driver know RED LLIGHT means stop. Yet disobey.
When education fail, enforcement is the key.
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We cannot just rely on polis to be everywhere.

We need to play our part by reporting these fellas with video proof to the authorities - if we truly care.
Only if no action taken after we reported can we blame the authorities.
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post May 15 2023, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ May 15 2023, 12:39 AM)
Been to Penang multiple times pre-pandemic, but don't remember seeing the norm for motor to come out junction and straight to the middle or other side of road.

Only in JB did I see these dare devil antics pre-pandemic, motorcycles merging into main roads or coming out of junctions (on coming traffic >60km/h) without a care for their lives or of the huge ass lorry barreling down on them. Cars speeding by next to me while I was sitting on mamak restaurant which placed tables on the road. I kept saying JB is the only place in Malaysia that caused my palms to sweat and grip the steering wheel tightly, and I have >10 yrs of driving experience when I went to JB.

Recently (last 6 months or so) I have been noticing similar dare devil antics (coming out junction without a care for oncoming traffic) in Klang Valley, among motorcyclists and cars. That and the deterioration in common sense among road users is not making my driving experience in Klang Valley a pleasant one. Seems like JB exported their riders to Penang and Klang Valley already.
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This means you have not been driving here often enough.

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ May 15 2023, 12:47 AM)
Where is 'here' referring to?
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Penang lo.
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post May 16 2023, 09:51 AM

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Ayam amazed Pineng ktards keep emphasizing on the stop line on the road when most Pineng drivers don't give two hoots to road/lane markings. Ayam convinced you guys will 100% stop your car behind that stop line on this particular road or anywhere else that have stop lines.

There are a few left turn junction that have stop lines and traffic lights but drivers don't stop behind the line even when the lights are red. Example: Bkt Gambir to Lipsin. Looks like there's still hope.

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 16 2023, 10:02 AM)
you toking this picture or your own experience
and picture only hiasan?
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Ask any of your friends in Pen about this junction, ask whether they stop at this red light when they turn left.
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post May 16 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2023, 10:10 AM)
kalau accident they salah lo

people eat shit, you didn't need to eat together mah
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