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 [BMW bang die moto] court case today, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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desmond2020
post May 14 2023, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 14 2023, 09:45 AM)
I already answer you that I might blame myself for lapse of mind instead of blaming the BMW driver

And then I follow up with this question. Can you answer it?

Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.
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Cannot process this la bro. Why you want to do like that? . Sounds like you are suicidal too.

Please ride defensively and fastened your helmet
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so if riding at middle of lane is suicidal, then drinking todi is suicidal too?
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post May 14 2023, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 14 2023, 09:36 AM)
I am sorry but lapse of mind cannot use if already lost life

I am also a person who always blame myself if I have lapse of mind

But can you answer my question :

Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.
Legal or not, can you answer my question properly instead of diverting it?
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Mai lagi dengan conjectures lagi

All should bes and unseen is crap talk

What is seen is on the CCTV

Impact area is 5- 10 meters from the junction
So it's not just entering the junction crap

15meters movement means at the start when the moto at junction
The car is way back at least 70meters back if at 100kmph

Normal speed car at 70m back no problem for any car to join in traffic in front of it

The car speed is fast that is also certain

These two are facts as seen on CCTV and street view

Whether the moto stop or not, cannot say

But for the car to be at that speed after the junction means it enter at least the same speed as the point of impact

Even the driver comment on slowing down means before the junction is even higher speed?
But that is just here say only


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post May 14 2023, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 14 2023, 09:45 AM)
I already answer you that I might blame myself for lapse of mind instead of blaming the BMW driver

And then I follow up with this question. Can you answer it?

Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?
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Hahaha... so you're going to tell that white BMW that "Welp, my fault that you knocked into my rear. Here's my phone#, call me & let me know how much I need to compensate for your car repair?" Kek, isn't it too early to get drunk?

Anyway, as someone who has both motorcycle & car, there's something called lost of balance when you're on 2-wheeled vehicles. Like what desmond2020 said, it's not illegal & it appeared that you couldn't accept that answer either so don't see we're going anywhere with that question of yours. About that helmet, you have no idea if it's fastened & powered by my Sherlock Shit cap, I've deduced that you're not someone who rides motorcycle & even if you do, you don't ride it often.

Like others say, practise defensive driving. You treat all vehicles the same, whether they're motorcycle or car.
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post May 14 2023, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:32 AM)
satu ekor lagi got mind reading power, so early already mabuk todi?
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I don't consume alcohol, unlike puak mabok like you.

Auntie took her safety for granted, like other basikal lajak and rempits.

Helmet never secure. Expect everyone to give her priority on the road. Exit junction straight go middle of the road.


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post May 14 2023, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 09:55 AM)
I don't consume alcohol, unlike puak mabok like you.

Auntie took her safety for granted, like other basikal lajak and rempits.

Helmet never secure. Expect everyone to give her priority on the road. Exit junction straight go middle of the road.
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so BMW driver didn't stop at white line, you miss that?

or your brain can't process that?
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post May 14 2023, 10:01 AM

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the bmw didnt even hit the brake
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post May 14 2023, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(RazanZen @ May 14 2023, 10:01 AM)
the bmw didnt even hit the brake
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brake is for the weak minded


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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:57 AM)
so BMW driver didn't stop at white line, you miss that?

or your brain can't process that?
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Put a camera there. Pls point out how many vehicles actually stop at the line? None.

Road design is stupid, there shouldn't be a line to begin with there.

It's not a traffic light. And on a straight road, the BMW has the right of way if you still remember your undang
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 10:02 AM)
Put a camera there. Pls point out how many vehicles actually stop at the line? None.

Road design is stupid, there shouldn't be a line to begin with there.
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The onus is on you to prove that other vehicles didn't stop at that line so we'll wait. Talk to us again when you have the ability to back your argument.

QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 10:02 AM)
And on a straight road, the BMW has the right of way if you still remember your undang
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Stop flip-flopping. There's no right of way if the stop line is there on the road. On one hand you argued that the BMW didn't follow the law by claiming that the stop line shouldn't be there & now you have the qualm to quote the law? Kek

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 10:02 AM)
Put a camera there. Pls point out how many vehicles actually stop at the line? None.

Road design is stupid, there shouldn't be a line to begin with there.

It's not a traffic light. And on a straight road, the BMW has the right of way if you still remember your undang
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bodo punya orang, this is road in housing area, a white line mean you need to come to complete stop

you license kopi o kau todi one?
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post May 14 2023, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 10:02 AM)
Put a camera there. Pls point out how many vehicles actually stop at the line? None.

Road design is stupid, there shouldn't be a line to begin with there.

It's not a traffic light. And on a straight road, the BMW has the right of way if you still remember your undang
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Kek
Tok undang then come in with shit opinion

Go the legal way, and request the change through gov body

Until then Cannot follow?

So I feel it shit law, no need follow

Kek max



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post May 14 2023, 10:08 AM

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later they all use $$$$ settle to close the case
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QUOTE(talexeh @ May 14 2023, 10:05 AM)
The onus is on you to prove that other vehicles didn't stop at that line so we'll wait. Talk to us again when you have the ability to back your argument.
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I don't live in penang, sorry.

But anyone staying there can help verify? Is it a norm for cars to completely stop in the middle of the junction? Usually there's a stop sign for cars.

I've drove in pengerang oil refinery before, and the rules there are super strict. Stop means stop. 30kmh means 30kmh, it your didn't come to a halt, you'll be banned after 3 warnings.



QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 10:05 AM)
bodo punya orang, this is road in housing area, a white line mean you need to come to complete stop

you license kopi o kau todi one?
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Again, do people do that?
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post May 14 2023, 10:09 AM

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Can believe all the weak sauce arguments here

Like are you guys even trying?
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post May 14 2023, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 14 2023, 09:48 AM)
so if riding at middle of lane is suicidal, then drinking todi is suicidal too?
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Yes of course

That's why I don't drink alcohol.

Alcohol are for suicidal people.

If you drink alcohol and ride into middle lane as bike slowly, please find Befrienders


QUOTE(mcchin @ May 14 2023, 09:51 AM)
Mai lagi dengan conjectures lagi

All should bes and unseen is crap talk

What is seen is on the CCTV

Impact area is 5- 10 meters from the junction
So it's not just entering the junction crap

15meters movement means at the start when the moto at junction
The car is way back at least 70meters back if at 100kmph

Normal speed car at 70m back no problem for any car to join in traffic  in front of it

The car speed is fast that is also certain

These two are facts as seen on CCTV and street view

Whether the moto stop or not, cannot say

But for the car to be at that speed after the junction means it enter at least the same speed as the point of impact

Even the driver comment on slowing down means before the junction is even higher speed?
But that is just here say only
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I mean as a biker, if you are slow, would you stay in the middle of lane and better ride on the left for safety purpose?

QUOTE(talexeh @ May 14 2023, 09:52 AM)
Hahaha... so you're going to tell that white BMW that "Welp, my fault that you knocked into my rear. Here's my phone#, call me & let me know how much I need to compensate for your car repair?" Kek, isn't it too early to get drunk?

Anyway, as someone who has both motorcycle & car, there's something called lost of balance when you're on 2-wheeled vehicles. Like what desmond2020 said, it's not illegal & it appeared that you couldn't accept that answer either so don't see we're going anywhere with that question of yours. About that helmet, you have no idea if it's fastened & powered by my Sherlock Shit cap, I've deduced that you're not someone who rides motorcycle & even if you do, you don't ride it often.

Like others say, practise defensive driving. You treat all vehicles the same, whether they're motorcycle or car.
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Even though I blame myself for lapse of mind, as a law abiding person, will still claim from BMW.

You on the other hand, refused to answer my question properly and diverting it to legality.

Defensive driving as motorbike if I riding slow, I will go to the left. I ride bike when I am in university. But after work, I no longer ride bike because I know it's dangerous.

Riding car instead of riding bike is defensive driving too. Meaning I defend my life by riding car instead bike.

You on the hand does not know what is defensive driving because you still ride bike even though you got car.

I think the most problematic one is you can't even answer my question honestly

Think about it

If you are the person who ride the bike, will you come out of junction, go to the middle of lane, and ride slow with helmet not fastened properly?

Please be honest with your answer.

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post May 14 2023, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 14 2023, 10:06 AM)
Kek
Tok undang then come in with shit opinion

Go the legal way, and request the change through gov body

Until then Cannot follow?

So I feel it shit law, no need follow

Kek max
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it is a road in housing area, the straight road if don't have white line, sure the car at the junction don't need go out liao

the white line is to make sure people stop and let car from junction exit safely

but seems like people like kaya butter toast is too dense to understand it, it is fitting to install triple speed bump to make sure these retard observe the rule.
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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 10:08 AM)
I don't live in penang, sorry.

But anyone staying there can help verify? Is it a norm for cars to completely stop in the middle of the junction? Usually there's a stop sign for cars.

I've drove in pengerang oil refinery before, and the rules there are super strict. Stop means stop. 30kmh means 30kmh, it your didn't come to a halt, you'll be banned after 3 warnings.
Again, do people do that?
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you said people don't stop, you provide the prove lah

you mabuk so early in the morning?
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post May 14 2023, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 10:08 AM)
I don't live in penang, sorry.

But anyone staying there can help verify? Is it a norm for cars to completely stop in the middle of the junction? Usually there's a stop sign for cars.

I've drove in pengerang oil refinery before, and the rules there are super strict. Stop means stop. 30kmh means 30kmh, it your didn't come to a halt, you'll be banned after 3 warnings.
Again, do people do that?
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Today gone to a 3 way junction where the traffic light flash yellow

So now I straight road no need follow lines on ground dee
Cause tight of way?

Again
Majority of people find you as idiot that means it's the law?

Addendum, not stop in middle of junction
Stop before the junction

And yes it's a norm
Dunno which galaxy you're from

This post has been edited by mcchin: May 14 2023, 10:14 AM
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Fuiyo another lejen tered
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post May 14 2023, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ May 14 2023, 10:08 AM)
I don't live in penang, sorry.

But anyone staying there can help verify? Is it a norm for cars to completely stop in the middle of the junction? Usually there's a stop sign for cars.
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So yea, I've just called out your BS then.

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