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Sheng890624
post Mar 24 2022, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2022, 05:01 PM)
not entirely sure

after today's successful withdrawal (5 digit amount) from KDI, i noticed my Returns amount reduced.

didnt keep track each day's figures though  hmm.gif cant compare before and after withdrawal
i'll keep monitoring and taking snapshots daily before triggering withrawal again
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Seem like it make sense for lower the returns if our net deposit amount (after withdraw) is reduced.
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post Mar 24 2022, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 24 2022, 05:04 PM)
Seem like it make sense for lower the returns if our net deposit amount (after withdraw) is reduced.
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that make it seems like profit is not incremental on daily basis (into Returns bucket), but dynamically-updated based on current net deposit? hmm.gif
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post Mar 24 2022, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2022, 05:10 PM)
that make it seems like profit is not incremental on daily basis (into Returns bucket), but dynamically-updated based on current net deposit? hmm.gif
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Daily return is compound base but subject to total amount holding.

After your withdraw the holding value is decrease that make the return have slightly decrease as well.
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post Mar 24 2022, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 24 2022, 05:18 PM)
Daily return is compound base but subject to total amount holding.

After your withdraw the holding value is decrease that make the return have slightly decrease as well.
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Thinking the same thing too. Perhaps the return drops due to lower deposit amount current value
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post Mar 24 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2022, 05:01 PM)
not entirely sure

after today's successful withdrawal (5 digit amount) from KDI, i noticed my Returns amount reduced.

didnt keep track each day's figures though  hmm.gif cant compare before and after withdrawal
i'll keep monitoring and taking snapshots daily before triggering withrawal again
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this is weird then .... do keep us posted. thanks
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post Mar 24 2022, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 24 2022, 05:18 PM)
Daily return is compound base but subject to total amount holding.

After your withdraw the holding value is decrease that make the return have slightly decrease as well.
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shouldnt the Return amount either remain same amount (as yesterday's) or increase (if having deposit before 11am today)?

withdrawing from net deposit only caused me to earn lower profit, but not reducing my (already earned) profit as well?


QUOTE(no6 @ Mar 24 2022, 05:28 PM)
this is weird then .... do keep us posted. thanks
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haha still learning and trying to understand laugh.gif

This post has been edited by cybpsych: Mar 24 2022, 05:32 PM
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post Mar 24 2022, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst3 @ Mar 24 2022, 11:11 AM)
Wonder if got investors put millions in this kinda robo-advisors?  hmm.gif
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if you can lose money then mustthink twice if sure untung why not?
i reckon KDI save must have amassed lots of millions by now...

QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Mar 24 2022, 11:20 AM)
invest RM2 mil and get charged a low flat fee of only RM6,000 annually 😂😂
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thatrefers to KDI invest only right?
QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 24 2022, 11:23 AM)
if got so much money usually people hire financial planner already.
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for those with Bs, yes but Ms only still alot only DIY
QUOTE(lovelyuser @ Mar 24 2022, 11:36 AM)
No! Definitely not in this 2~3 years as AI Robo advisor still new to the market, it will require some time to build it's reputation and market awareness

Probably next 5 years will be norm for everyone, by then, with inflation,  more than 3 Million also possible
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hopefully KDI can earn our trust and respect...




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post Mar 24 2022, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Mar 22 2022, 04:28 PM)
of course not from CC /3rd party lah, that's why I only bolded Joint Accounts . smile.gif

Maybe I should just give it a try, see if they refund.  tongue.gif
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dont know u refer to same testing or not,i tested and yes nice refunded cash!


QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2022, 04:18 PM)
pure KDI Save

seems like withdrawal will also clawback the profit too?
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try post 512, is that your problem?
If yes worry not, just check your Net Deposit column.
your "loss" is credited there

QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 24 2022, 05:04 PM)
Seem like it make sense for lower the returns if our net deposit amount (after withdraw) is reduced.
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of course if total balance reduced(after WD) , daily interest must also reduced- but must reduced ACCORDINGLY lah

the issue is the interest reduced is more than Accordingly.

Eg that day i WD RM10k, i expected interest for next day reduced by RM0.62,
but KDI reduced next day interest by RM3.54,

what happened to the RM2.92??

KDI sent it to "Nett Deposit"... doh.gif doh.gif
funny system.


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post Mar 24 2022, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 24 2022, 05:58 PM)
dont know u refer to same testing or not,i tested and yes nice refunded cash!
try post 512, is that your problem?
If yes worry not, just check your Net Deposit column.
your "loss" is credited there
of course if total  balance reduced(after WD) , daily interest must also reduced- but must reduced ACCORDINGLY lah

the issue is the interest reduced is more than Accordingly.

Eg that day i WD RM10k, i expected interest for next day reduced by RM0.62,
but KDI reduced next day interest by RM3.54,

what happened to the RM2.92??

KDI sent it to "Nett Deposit"... doh.gif  doh.gif
funny system.
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thanks

a bit confusing/unclear how the reduction works

will monitor next round of withdrawal
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post Mar 24 2022, 07:15 PM

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I make a small amount of withdrawal, and I found they deduct partly from Return, which is in-contradict with their explanation on Net Deposit
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post Mar 24 2022, 07:36 PM

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Hope not intruding but based on the issues, so the Return is in separate account meaning it is not compounding ?
Or am i mistaken. Base Compounding Interest ... what does it mean...


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post Mar 24 2022, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst3 @ Mar 24 2022, 11:11 AM)
Wonder if got investors put millions in this kinda robo-advisors?  hmm.gif
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Definitely those with high net worth won’t do it they rather go through private banking doh.gif

QUOTE(Daprind @ Mar 24 2022, 01:08 PM)
Opened an account this morning @9.44AM, got approved @12.10PM same day. That what fast. rclxms.gif
Since my registered bank in KDI is limited to FPX 30k daily transaction, can I use other bank (under my sole name) for the deposit?
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Yes the fastest around 3 hrs just like mine rclxms.gif

QUOTE(magika @ Mar 24 2022, 07:36 PM)
Hope not intruding but based on the issues, so the Return is in separate account meaning it is not compounding ?
Or am i mistaken. Base Compounding Interest ... what does it mean...
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Return is not compounded only deposits are compounded returns into daily return calculation

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post Mar 24 2022, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Feb 18 2022, 05:30 AM)
It is daily compounded so even Better than pro rated  rclxms.gif
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That wrong then
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 24 2022, 08:06 PM)
That wrong then
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Daily compounded only on deposits not inclusive of returns doh.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 24 2022, 08:10 PM)
Daily compounded only on deposits not inclusive of returns  doh.gif
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post Mar 24 2022, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2022, 06:23 PM)
thanks

a bit confusing/unclear how the reduction works

will monitor next round of withdrawal
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Dont worry about the calculation, i can vouch that KDi calculate daily interest exactly as what we have expected.
it is daily compounding including your earned interest.

If your balance yesterday was X, and today b4 11am deposited Y, and your accumulated return Z
Today's interest would be (X+Y+Z) x3%/365
straight forward.

IINM you raised the issue as you felt KDi "claw back" some of your earned interest.
just go check your Net Deposit there, the money is there.

Mine the moment i saw my Nett Deposit XXXX2.92 i know that RM2.92 was not my own deposit, it must be
CR from the so called claw back interest. Go check yours.


QUOTE(magika @ Mar 24 2022, 07:36 PM)
Hope not intruding but based on the issues, so the Return is in separate account meaning it is not compounding ?
Or am i mistaken. Base Compounding Interest ... what does it mean...
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First hand info here, it is daily compounding including earned interest.

QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 24 2022, 08:10 PM)
Daily compounded only on deposits not inclusive of returns  doh.gif
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doh.gif your also first hand info or hearsay?

Note that my accumulated interest of RM2168.99 can only earn compounding interest of only 13sen,
dont expect to be able to see it with smaller amount.
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 24 2022, 08:27 PM)
Dont worry about the calculation, i can vouch that KDi calculate  daily interest exactly as what we have expected.
it is daily compounding including your earned interest.

If your  balance yesterday was X, and today b4 11am deposited Y, and  your accumulated return Z
Today's interest would be (X+Y+Z) x3%/365
straight forward.

IINM you raised the issue as you felt KDi "claw back" some of your earned interest.
just go check your Net Deposit there, the money is there.

Mine the moment i saw  my Nett Deposit  XXXX2.92 i know that RM2.92  was not my own deposit, it must be
CR from the so called claw back interest. Go check yours.
First hand info here, it is daily compounding including earned interest
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thanks again

yeah. I suspected some portion moved to deposit.

well. I can't verify cuz my net deposit is not round amount anyway. no way to compare unless I screencap my balance before withdrawal this morning biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 24 2022, 08:27 PM)
Dont worry about the calculation, i can vouch that KDi calculate  daily interest exactly as what we have expected.
it is daily compounding including your earned interest.

If your  balance yesterday was X, and today b4 11am deposited Y, and  your accumulated return Z
Today's interest would be (X+Y+Z) x3%/365
straight forward.

IINM you raised the issue as you felt KDi "claw back" some of your earned interest.
just go check your Net Deposit there, the money is there.

Mine the moment i saw  my Nett Deposit  XXXX2.92 i know that RM2.92  was not my own deposit, it must be
CR from the so called claw back interest. Go check yours.
First hand info here, it is daily compounding including earned interest.
doh.gif your also first hand info or hearsay?

Note that  my accumulated interest of RM2168.99 can only earn compounding interest of only 13sen,
dont expect to be able to see it with smaller amount.
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At 3% you should be earning daily at 0.1782 not 13sens so it means only your base deposits are calculated and it is fixed all the time and only the return system portion is higher daily but not interest compounded doh.gif
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:18 AM

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amazing, calculate down to small dollar and cents for KDI Save sweat.gif
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post Mar 25 2022, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 25 2022, 09:18 AM)
amazing, calculate down to small dollar and cents for KDI Save  sweat.gif
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cheer...just some discussion for clear picture although we all are small investor biggrin.gif

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