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Investment Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI), KDI Invest, KDI Save

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Davidtcf
post Mar 2 2022, 10:27 AM

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Ok maybe I'm wrong.. they claim it is 100% AI driven:

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/investment/...bo-advisor.html

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The artificial intelligence engine behind KDI Invest – dubbed the Factor Analytics Machine Learning Engine (F.A.M.E.) – will monitor global market conditions and rebalances customers’ portfolios automatically, thereby offering convenience and removing the influence of human emotions. Its back-tested portfolio performance yielded average annual return rates between 7.3% to 16.7% from 2004 to February 2021.


As of now seems like they focusing on US market:

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KDI Invest invests in a fixed pool of ETFs, carefully screened and curated to offer a range of top-performing developed and emerging equities, fixed income, commodities, and currencies. According to its FAQ, KDI stated that KDI Invest is focused on the US stock exchange market because the US market “offers the most liquid, deepest, and widest range of ETFs covering asset classes across the world, compared to ETFs listed in other countries.”


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Medufsaid
post Mar 2 2022, 10:28 AM

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refer to the FAQ by KDI themselves?
QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 18 2022, 01:47 PM)
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KDI doing investing forrest gump style ke?  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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yea... we posted at the same time
QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:27 AM)
Ok maybe I'm wrong.. they claim it is 100% AI driven:
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This post has been edited by Medufsaid: Mar 2 2022, 10:29 AM
Davidtcf
post Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM

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Ok la.. since they already stress tested it before launch of product:

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Its back-tested portfolio performance yielded average annual return rates between 7.3% to 16.7% from 2004 to February 2021.


better than Freddy Lim simply dumping people's money into KWEB whistling.gif
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post Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:27 AM)
Ok maybe I'm wrong.. they claim it is 100% AI driven:

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/investment/...bo-advisor.html
As of now seems like they focusing on US market:
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Not focusing on US market share but focusing on US exchange offering ETFs covering asset classes across the world doh.gif

Which is why EWZ and RSX are in the list or pool
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post Mar 2 2022, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
Not focusing on US market share but focusing on US exchange offering ETFs covering asset classes across the world  doh.gif

Which is why EWZ and RSX are in the list or pool
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If the AI is claimed to be that smart they will avoid these 2 for now.. maybe one day when they shooting to moon then only invest in them (unlikely). smile.gif

will monitor the statements closely.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
Ok la.. since they already stress tested it before launch of product:
better than Freddy Lim simply dumping people's money into KWEB  whistling.gif
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SA also stress test doh.gif

Different style whereby SA it is fixed asset allocation whereby KDI dynamic asset allocation

While MyTheo is in between those 2
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post Mar 2 2022, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:33 AM)
If the AI is claimed to be that smart they will avoid these 2 for now.. maybe one day when they shooting to moon then only invest in them (unlikely).  smile.gif

will monitor the statements closely.
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EWZ is Brazil ETF which is fine because is heavily dominated by commodities export

While RSX is currently a basket case thanks to Putin

Why KDI choose both in the pool it is because allocation to EM and commodities export driven while SA are oth are allocating via EWA and EWC

You should be worried instead if they allocating it to EWM doh.gif and by the time you monitor the statements it is too late as they have allocated the buy order already doh.gif

KDI it is more 100% on their FAME ML which you can questioned the manager who are doing the asset allocation without any disclosure upfront doh.gif

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post Mar 2 2022, 10:41 AM

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so KDI uses FAME to determine what ETFs to pick. while DAAS is used to give you the ETF ratio based on your risk appetite

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
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Its back-tested portfolio performance yielded average annual return rates between 7.3% to 16.7% from 2004 to February 2021.
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sorry but this is a potential alarm for me. luckily u quoted it again as i missed it the first time around.

backtesting will have the danger of curve fitting, and kenaga definitely won't tell us how well they eliminate it. tell us how robust it is, don't tell us how profitable it is if trading as though it was 2005

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 2 2022, 10:31 AM)
Ok la.. since they already stress tested it before launch of product:
better than Freddy Lim simply dumping people's money into KWEB whistling.gif
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From SA....they too have it.

Just a note though, I think Data from the past years would definitely does not contains data on XI or Putin current actions....

Thus that is why some people want an active managed platform that is dynamic... But that would also can be changed just overnight like the case over Interpac funds... From highly aggressive to 100% cash



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_kilakila_
post Mar 2 2022, 12:10 PM

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Deposited yesterday to both save and invest but still pending in my account. I didn’t use credit card for top up though, normal fpx m2u. Weird.
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post Mar 2 2022, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(_kilakila_ @ Mar 2 2022, 12:10 PM)
Deposited yesterday to both save and invest but still pending in my account. I didn’t use credit card for top up though, normal fpx m2u. Weird.
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normally mine - deposit before 11. commit in the afternoon, after 6pm
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post Mar 2 2022, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(_kilakila_ @ Mar 2 2022, 12:10 PM)
Deposited yesterday to both save and invest but still pending in my account. I didn’t use credit card for top up though, normal fpx m2u. Weird.
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If you're deposit after the cutoff time (11am), probably will reflect by today. You may check later around 5pm. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 2 2022, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Mar 2 2022, 10:41 AM)
so KDI uses FAME to determine what ETFs to pick. while DAAS is used to give you the ETF ratio based on your risk appetite

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sorry but this is a potential alarm for me. luckily u quoted it again as i missed it the first time around.

backtesting will have the danger of curve fitting, and kenaga definitely won't tell us how well they eliminate it. tell us how robust it is, don't tell us how profitable it is if trading as though it was 2005
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will test it out to see for myself. so far only 1k in Invest to see how the conservative portfolio will perform.

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post Mar 2 2022, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 2 2022, 01:24 PM)
If you're deposit after the cutoff time (11am), probably will reflect by today. You may check later around 5pm.  biggrin.gif
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I see i see, it's latter than I expected but lets see hmm.gif
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post Mar 2 2022, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(_kilakila_ @ Mar 2 2022, 01:32 PM)
I see i see, it's latter than I expected but lets see  hmm.gif
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It will come along with the interest as well, no worry rclxms.gif
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post Mar 2 2022, 01:49 PM

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Signed up yesterday. Still waiting for account activation.

Someone mentioned in an earlier post that it also took them about a day for approval as well.

Wonder if using a referral code would've sped up the process..
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post Mar 2 2022, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Billy.Who @ Mar 2 2022, 01:49 PM)
Signed up yesterday.  Still waiting for account activation.

Someone mentioned in an earlier post that it also took them about a day for approval as well.

Wonder if using a referral code would've sped up the process..
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_kilakila_
post Mar 2 2022, 04:34 PM

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KDI Save is IN but KDI Invest still...nothing.
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post Mar 2 2022, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(_kilakila_ @ Mar 2 2022, 04:34 PM)
KDI Save is IN but KDI Invest still...nothing.
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KDI Invest will take more longer time base on their FAQ.
You will receive another email notification once the fund is complete invest.

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post Mar 2 2022, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Mar 2 2022, 04:43 PM)
KDI Invest will take more longer time base on their FAQ.
You will receive another email notification once the fund is complete invest.

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Ohhh i seee. Thank you thank you. thumbsup.gif

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