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Only process on Monday cause their cutoff time is 11am. You need to withdraw before 11am for them to bank the money for you.Investment Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI), KDI Invest, KDI Save
Investment Kenanga Digital Investing (KDI), KDI Invest, KDI Save
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Apr 2 2023, 03:14 PM
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Apr 13 2023, 04:23 PM
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any of you guys received marketing calls from Kenanga ? I just did , selling me this .
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Apr 13 2023, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(sweetpea123 @ Apr 13 2023, 04:23 PM) Not for meBtw beware because this a trust scheme and it looks like the company itself is not licensed by SC Elvin7 liked this post
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Apr 13 2023, 06:09 PM
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Apr 13 2023, 10:22 PM
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Don't think Kenanga will do this, better email/call them for clarification, and maybe share the phone number so we can all judge
As a conspiracy theorist LOL, either some internal Kenanga people misuse your data to promote other product, or KDI investors details kena leaked, which is even worse |
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Apr 13 2023, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(yayai @ Apr 13 2023, 10:22 PM) Don't think Kenanga will do this, better email/call them for clarification, and maybe share the phone number so we can all judge +1 to calling kenanga up to verify it..As a conspiracy theorist LOL, either some internal Kenanga people misuse your data to promote other product, or KDI investors details kena leaked, which is even worse at the very least you will find out its true or not and if it is not true, you can let kenanga know someone impersonating them to scam.. and also they will be aware one of their internal sold customer data too. |
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Apr 14 2023, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 13 2023, 05:17 PM) Not for me Btw beware because this a trust scheme and it looks like the company itself is not licensed by SC QUOTE(calapia @ Apr 13 2023, 06:09 PM) QUOTE(yayai @ Apr 13 2023, 10:22 PM) Don't think Kenanga will do this, better email/call them for clarification, and maybe share the phone number so we can all judge As a conspiracy theorist LOL, either some internal Kenanga people misuse your data to promote other product, or KDI investors details kena leaked, which is even worse QUOTE(Optizorb @ Apr 13 2023, 11:53 PM) +1 to calling kenanga up to verify it.. thanks for the input, I think I will just block and ignore that fella then.at the very least you will find out its true or not and if it is not true, you can let kenanga know someone impersonating them to scam.. and also they will be aware one of their internal sold customer data too. |
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Apr 16 2023, 08:41 AM
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KDI Save βs Rewarding Returns: Fixed 3.50% Effective Annual Rate (EAR)* Limited time only. *Terms and conditions apply
- FD interest calculation : $10,000 x 3.5% = $350 x 1 day / 365 days = $0.9589 interest daily - KDI Save's returns : $10,000*(1+3.5%)^(1/365)-1 = $0.9425 interest daily - KDI Save's returns after 1 year for $10,000 in 3.5% = $10,350 interest yearly 1. I thought compound interest is superior to regular FD but in a real world, both FD and KDI Save rate "compounding the interest and principal over time" after a year results 10,350 same as FD. 2. If a bank's promo FD is more than 3.5% would yield higher returns than KDI Save 3. KDI Save's depositors can withdraw 9 days with interest but banks penalize early FD withdrawal. 4. KDI's day 1 interest 0.9425 is lesser than bank's 0.9589. I had wanted to raise queries, but I came to these conclusions, am I wrong? Your thoughts are welcome. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Apr 16 2023, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 16 2023, 08:41 AM) KDI Save βs Rewarding Returns: Fixed 3.50% Effective Annual Rate (EAR)* Limited time only. *Terms and conditions apply I did some quick napkin math with 10000 capital and I've got:- FD interest calculation : $10,000 x 3.5% = $350 x 1 day / 365 days = $0.9589 interest daily - KDI Save's returns : $10,000*(1+3.5%)^(1/365)-1 = $0.9425 interest daily - KDI Save's returns after 1 year for $10,000 in 3.5% = $10,350 interest yearly 1. I thought compound interest is superior to regular FD but in a real world, both FD and KDI Save rate "compounding the interest and principal over time" after a year results 10,350 same as FD. 2. If a bank's promo FD is more than 3.5% would yield higher returns than KDI Save 3. KDI Save's depositors can withdraw 9 days with interest but banks penalize early FD withdrawal. 4. KDI's day 1 interest 0.9425 is lesser than bank's 0.9589. I had wanted to raise queries, but I came to these conclusions, am I wrong? Your thoughts are welcome. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 3.5% compounded daily over 1 year: 10,356.18 3.5% compounded yearly over 1 year: 10,350.00 3.5% compounded daily over 10 year: 14,190.44 3.5% compounded yearly over 10 year: 14,105.99 This post has been edited by Hoshiyuu: Apr 16 2023, 10:56 AM |
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Apr 16 2023, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 16 2023, 08:41 AM) KDI Save βs Rewarding Returns: Fixed 3.50% Effective Annual Rate (EAR)* Limited time only. *Terms and conditions apply Unless you got very large amount, daily compounding or monthly compounding the sum is pretty much negligible.- FD interest calculation : $10,000 x 3.5% = $350 x 1 day / 365 days = $0.9589 interest daily - KDI Save's returns : $10,000*(1+3.5%)^(1/365)-1 = $0.9425 interest daily - KDI Save's returns after 1 year for $10,000 in 3.5% = $10,350 interest yearly 1. I thought compound interest is superior to regular FD but in a real world, both FD and KDI Save rate "compounding the interest and principal over time" after a year results 10,350 same as FD. 2. If a bank's promo FD is more than 3.5% would yield higher returns than KDI Save 3. KDI Save's depositors can withdraw 9 days with interest but banks penalize early FD withdrawal. 4. KDI's day 1 interest 0.9425 is lesser than bank's 0.9589. I had wanted to raise queries, but I came to these conclusions, am I wrong? Your thoughts are welcome. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 16 2023, 11:10 AM |
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Apr 16 2023, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Apr 16 2023, 10:55 AM) I did some quick napkin math with 10000 capital and I've got: I do not know what are you trying to say? 3.5% compounded daily over 1 year: 10,356.18 3.5% compounded yearly over 1 year: 10,350.00 3.5% compounded daily over 10 year: 14,190.44 3.5% compounded yearly over 10 year: 14,105.99 KDI Save calculation is in spoiler clearly showing KDI Save 3.5% will yield 10,350 in a year. This topic is KDI. If you have other sources of daily compound over 1 year = 10,356.18 then please PM me. QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 16 2023, 11:09 AM) Unless you got very large amount, daily compounding or monthly compounding the sum is pretty much negligible. Yes, agree. Thank you Ramjade. |
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Apr 16 2023, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 16 2023, 11:09 AM) Unless you got very large amount, daily compounding or monthly compounding the sum is pretty much negligible. You will only see major difference when it is 100k above QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 16 2023, 12:28 PM) I do not know what are you trying to say? KDI calculation is different because it is not straight forward fixed 3.5%KDI Save calculation is in spoiler clearly showing KDI Save 3.5% will yield 10,350 in a year. This topic is KDI. If you have other sources of daily compound over 1 year = 10,356.18 then please PM me. Yes, agree. Thank you Ramjade. Go find EAR and you will know it is 10356.18 and why bother with KDI as we already know that is only up to 3.5% and when others are returning higher π€¦ββοΈ Donβt look at the returns when you have the liquidity and if you want better returns look for FD promo instead and locked it in |
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Apr 16 2023, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 16 2023, 08:41 AM) - KDI Save's returns : $10,000*(1+3.5%)^(1/365)-1 = $0.9425 interest daily no, KDI interest will not be constant at 0.9425 dailyI had wanted to raise queries, but I came to these conclusions, am I wrong? QUOTE 1. I thought compound interest is superior to regular FD but in a real world, both FD and KDI Save rate "compounding the interest and principal over time" after a year results 10,350 same as FD. so what is wrong with compounding > simple? kelvinjohn liked this post
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Apr 17 2023, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 16 2023, 06:14 PM) You will only see major difference when it is 100k above KDI Save states its EAR is 3.5% and limited to 10350 not 10356.18 KDI calculation is different because it is not straight forward fixed 3.5% Go find EAR and you will know it is 10356.18 and why bother with KDI as we already know that is only up to 3.5% and when others are returning higher π€¦ββοΈ Donβt look at the returns when you have the liquidity and if you want better returns look for FD promo instead and locked it in Yes, some FD promos offer higher returns locked in. KDI's liquidity and terms are easier to understand compared to versa. I am disappointed with EAR 3.5% cap. QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Apr 16 2023, 06:59 PM) no, KDI interest will not be constant at 0.9425 daily Agree KDI Save's interest is not constant daily. so what is wrong with compounding > simple? You are confuse because you did not see KDI source in spoiler, that shows interest of day-2 being higher than day-1, eventually yield 10350, if KDI Save's promo extends to full year. I am not comparing 3.4403% but a KDI Save's 3.5% against conventional FD 3.5%. This topic is about KDI. When confuse, then I am uncertain to the purpose of the question. |
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Apr 17 2023, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 17 2023, 10:15 AM) KDI Save states its EAR is 3.5% and limited to 10350 not 10356.18 KDI Save it is up to rm50k for EAR 3.5% π€¦ββοΈYes, some FD promos offer higher returns locked in. KDI's liquidity and terms are easier to understand compared to versa. I am disappointed with EAR 3.5% cap. Agree KDI Save's interest is not constant daily. You are confuse because you did not see KDI source in spoiler, that shows interest of day-2 being higher than day-1, eventually yield 10350, if KDI Save's promo extends to full year. I am not comparing 3.4403% but a KDI Save's 3.5% against conventional FD 3.5%. This topic is about KDI. When confuse, then I am uncertain to the purpose of the question. You are just confusing yourself because EAR is not a straight forward fixed interest calculation π€¦ββοΈ https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/...65&action=solve |
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Apr 17 2023, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 17 2023, 12:36 PM) KDI Save it is up to rm50k for EAR 3.5% π€¦ββοΈ What are you confuse about... nevermind I dont want your confusion. Thank you for calculatorsoupYou are just confusing yourself because EAR is not a straight forward fixed interest calculation π€¦ββοΈ https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/...65&action=solve kelvinjohn and CommodoreAmiga liked this post
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Apr 17 2023, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Apr 17 2023, 09:04 PM) lol at the mini drama but yes your math above is right.KDI's 3.5% is at EAR instead of fixed 3.5%, hence, after 365 days of daily compounding it becomes 10,350 or effectively, 3.5% p.a. over the course of the 365 days. In finance/cryptobro terms, KDI Save has an APY of 3.5%, but an APR of only 3.44%. Anyways, it's only 0.06%, at RM1M deposit, that's like... RM600 difference, not too significant at lower balances, but KDI already offers lower rates for balances above 50K anyways. Reason why my cash is here, there, everywhere. CommodoreAmiga liked this post
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Apr 18 2023, 10:39 AM
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Apr 18 2023, 12:38 PM
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kdi invest still negative return lol
last Thursday login it already become -0.19, tot it is coming back to positive return, today login and check become worst again, -1.89 lol |
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QUOTE(storky20 @ Apr 17 2023, 11:07 PM) lol at the mini drama but yes your math above is right. It was not my maths but taken from KDI site and FD from a bank's site. KDI's 3.5% is at EAR instead of fixed 3.5%, hence, after 365 days of daily compounding it becomes 10,350 or effectively, 3.5% p.a. over the course of the 365 days. In finance/cryptobro terms, KDI Save has an APY of 3.5%, but an APR of only 3.44%. Anyways, it's only 0.06%, at RM1M deposit, that's like... RM600 difference, not too significant at lower balances, but KDI already offers lower rates for balances above 50K anyways. Reason why my cash is here, there, everywhere. I appreciate your comment, especially since 3 others were talking from finance view (in a forum subject: KDI) Ah, so it 3.5% p.a. would describe it clearly. "per annum" Thank you for the finance terms. Yes, then difference is limited and capital limited to 50k until August. This is the reason I am looking for different offerings too. QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Apr 18 2023, 10:39 AM) that is kind of meaningless Always amaze at folks who reply to meaningless... oh wait, screen name explains it. Have a nice day! because if you take KDI's EAR 3.5%, you are only comparing with FD with 1-year maturity (underlying assumption on daily compounding for 365 days) QUOTE(download88 @ Apr 18 2023, 12:38 PM) kdi invest still negative return lol Thank you for this update. When did -1.89 began ? last Thursday login it already become -0.19, tot it is coming back to positive return, today login and check become worst again, -1.89 lol I imagine it will go lower since Fed warned of winter hard times. |
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