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post Oct 3 2022, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Oct 3 2022, 12:23 PM)
Anyone else tried doing the calculation?
I just checked mine, is way below 50k but still getting 3%. Or is it only for new deposits?
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yeah, mine also 3% p.a. until 2 Oct
will find out tomorrow
if applicable to new deposit, will withdraw & deposit again biggrin.gif

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post Oct 3 2022, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Oct 3 2022, 04:52 PM)
10,000*((1+0.035)^(1/365)-1) = 0.9425

10,000*0.035/365 = 0.9589

Why is there a difference between the above two formula when both has the same rate 3.5%? FD and Kenanga's way so different.
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incorporating the daily compounding effect
so the promoted rate > real rate?
effective rate = (1+0.035)^(1/365)-1 ~ 3.44%
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post Oct 4 2022, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 3 2022, 08:52 PM)
i am sure above RM200k previously 2.25% will likely now become <2%
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not that extreme
~2.225%

QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Oct 3 2022, 10:56 PM)
any short summary rate ah, gauging if want to withdraw  blush.gif
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not too far from
((1+r)^(1/365)-1)*365
~ 3.44%
~ 2.956%
~ 2.469%

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post Oct 17 2022, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Oct 17 2022, 08:46 AM)
On the dashboard for KDI Save, there are three values - Current Value,  Returns and Net Deposit. I am observing that after certain period, some of the amount in 'Returns' are moved to "Net Deposit". This is making it a bit difficult to track the actual returns. I wonder why they do this. Are others observing the same?
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the monthly statement provides the details you need

QUOTE(Mattrock @ Oct 17 2022, 09:26 AM)
Thanks. So can earn interest on interest? Does the 3% already take this into account, or will it be extra on top? Just curious.
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always pay attention to the return *
they have explained the Effective Annual Return in the FAQ

in short, yes and no
because that 3% is daily compounded for 365 days
but the current promotion will end in 31 December 2022, the rate may be revised again? hmm.gif
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post Oct 18 2022, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(littleprawnReborn @ Oct 17 2022, 09:15 PM)
Hi guys, is the 3.5% interest till this Dec'22?
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actually... the new tiered promotional rate is until further notice
the former 3% promotion was until December 2022
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post Oct 19 2022, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(cweng93 @ Oct 18 2022, 09:20 PM)
I read an article saying that :
KDI Save does not guarantee returns. Even though it invests in low-risk Fixed Deposits & Money Market Instruments, returns are still subjected to market fluctuation.

Does that mean it's still possible that I don't earn lesser interest than what they have advertised ?
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do you mind quote/provide the link of the article?
not sure about the return of the fund itself
but for now the return you receive is exactly the EAR as advertised (until further notice)
unless they announce revision to the return or they go bust, you will get the advertised return for the time being

currently, most mmf advertise 'projected return' up to
but KDI provides fixed return for now
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post Oct 21 2022, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(cweng93 @ Oct 19 2022, 12:19 AM)
Yeah, I think it should be fixed regardless of the market fluctuation.

This is the article I read.
https://nomoneylah.com/2022/10/04/kdi-save-review/
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hmm.gif no idea why he made that comment
it's fixed return for the time being

QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 20 2022, 12:03 AM)
capture market share maybe
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quite common technique to expand/gain market share
just observe from Lazada/Shopee, Foodpanda/Grab
go+ promotion lasted 2 times only sweat.gif

QUOTE(littleprawnReborn @ Oct 20 2022, 10:01 PM)
oh thanks for the clarification.... i thought it will follow the 3% promotional period...
if until further notice guess to put as much as possible...  sweat.gif
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need not fear of missing out
it is anticipated that the rate will continue to rise
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post Oct 31 2022, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(revasri @ Oct 31 2022, 03:29 PM)
Sorry still new to this, So you have to pay directly 30k or can pay gradually?
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it is based on the balance amount
not your deposit amount
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post Nov 1 2022, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 31 2022, 06:32 PM)
I did not follow what you and him are actually discussing.
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if u read the quote he replied, they were discussing about versa
ya, in KDI thread...

QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 31 2022, 06:32 PM)
I just remembered this post 1090 when Kdi Save gives 3% pa for the 1st 200k.
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nah...effective 3 October 2022, the EAR for first 50k will be 3.5%
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post Nov 2 2022, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(download88 @ Nov 2 2022, 02:15 PM)
if kdi already max first 50k at 3.5%, is it worth to switch remaining 30k from kdi to versa for 4%?
since the next 50001 is 3% in kdi
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from previous discussion. should pay attention to a couple of issues to avoid/minimise losing interest in transit:

1.) first time opening Versa account or verified Versa user?
it takes several days to process on first registration
so might as well opening the account with RM 100 first
subsequent cash in should take shorter time

2.) transfer before the cut-off time for processing
avoid non-business day, etc

the difference of 1.04% on RM 30,000 from 1 November 2022 to 31 January 2023 ~ RM 78.64

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post Nov 25 2022, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Nov 25 2022, 01:36 PM)
KDI bonus rate is until when?

How quick and easy is it to create account and move funds in and out?
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until further notice...they only mentioned 'limited time'
prior to the revision, the previous promotion will end on 31 December 2022

registering is easy

however, would probably not be a good time to cash in now
the cut-off time is 11am, so they will probably process your application and cash in on Tuesday since Monday is public holiday
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post Dec 25 2022, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Dec 24 2022, 10:33 AM)
I checked my November statement for KDI. Return as per KDI statement and calculation is 0.278% for the month, which when multiplied by 12 is only 3.336%. instead of 3.5% EAR...
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3.5% EAR = 3.44% p.a. effective rate
i.e.
day 1 interest: opening value x 3.44%/365
day 2 interest: day 1 value (opening value + day 1 interest) x 3.44%/365
day 3 interest: day 2 value (day 1 value + day 2 interest) x 3.44%/365
etc
but it should not be 3.336%

QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 24 2022, 12:19 PM)
have to keep in mind this is promotional rate effective until 31st of this month only.. come 1st jan which is just 1 more week, will go back down to 3%. and 1 more week only still no news from them whether got any revised promo or not..
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there is no specific deadline to this 3.5% EAR
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the 31 December 2022 was last time promotion, luckily someone screenshot the TNC
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so the reversion to 3% beginning 1st Jan does not make sense either since the promotion will end on 31 December 2022
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post Dec 28 2022, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(poco loco @ Dec 28 2022, 07:41 AM)
give new rate la.....near year end liao...maybank also called me give rate liao 3.8-4% aready for short burst time
still 3.5% ill withraw all out ni
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already withdrew some yesterday biggrin.gif

QUOTE(BWassup @ Dec 28 2022, 11:44 AM)
I did KDI Save deposit 1st time today, after setting up the designated bank account for deposit a few days ago.

When I clicked the Deposit button (under Online Deposit tab), I expected to see only this bank to be displayed. But instead, many banks are shown. Anyway, I clicked on my designated bank button to complete the transaction, however I still had to select the correct account when directed to the bank website.

Just wondering, since the Deposit page shows many banks, is it possible to do a deposit via a non-designated bank account? For sure, KDI has stated that only the designated and verified bank account may be used, due to security considerations.
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have not tried before
but my interpretation on the following clause
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so long as the bank account with the same name, no problem
but will take longer time due to verification
designated account = verified account, so faster processing time
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post Jan 1 2023, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 31 2022, 07:07 PM)
OCBC 360
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missed out the last part
QUOTE(download88 @ Dec 31 2022, 07:04 PM)
please advise me where to park the emergency fund that can in/out anytime anywhere, and gain daily 3.5%pa above without any min amount/goal/mission needed
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 31 2022, 07:53 PM)
Remember TnG Go+ is not in and out as you think as some got banned because of it
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not when cash in with fpx instead of credit card
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post Jan 3 2023, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lazyguy1337 @ Jan 3 2023, 12:05 AM)
Anyone in KDI save, withdrawal must keep minimum RM100 inside?
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didn't try
but from FAQs, the balance is either RM 100 or above, otherwise RM 0
so they will probably deactivate/close your account once the balance is RM Nil
n will have to be verified like new user if deposit in the future

QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jan 3 2023, 05:34 PM)
is the returns compounding with net deposit? like e.g if net deposit was 50k initially, then after 1 month gained rm141 returns. so have 50,141 in kdi save. is the interest still calculated on 50k or 50,141 ?
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the interest is calculated based on 50,141 but 141 is at 2.96% instead of 3.44%
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post Feb 13 2023, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(teckc @ Feb 13 2023, 12:04 PM)
as most FDs now advertise >4% per annum rates I suppose most are withdrawing from KDI to put into FD? I sure am..
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less appealing than go+ / versa currently in terms of return

lock-in period should yield higher return
the FD rate prior to 20 Jan was more convincing for the switch 4.5% / 4.8%
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post Feb 15 2023, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinjohn @ Feb 14 2023, 08:16 PM)
For me, the money I have in KDI is long term and I don't really care much about liquidity.
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 14 2023, 08:28 PM)
I don't see how KDI Save is long term if the interest rates are not better than FDs. I think you're talking about KDI Invest?
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no, i believe he refers to KDI Save
but he is comfortable with the return for now

yeah, it's interesting that since the liquidity is not an issue
and yet he preferred the lower return product without PIDM
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post Feb 23 2023, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(_kilakila_ @ Feb 22 2023, 10:11 AM)
My amount is around rm12k+ , but for the whole year I never seen it goes up to more than rm20 (maybe for just a day) and the whole 364 days it was negative.

If I see the earning can go up to more than rm100 then that might be fine but never...loll. Never earn more than 0.01% for my portfolio🙃

Then what's the point of putting in KDI invest, SAVE at least can get 3.5% return.

Mine is Growth profile btw..
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was RM 12k lump sum or dollar cost averaging?
now drop, opportunity to enter brows.gif
BUT i expect the market will fall further
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post Mar 15 2023, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Mar 15 2023, 12:51 PM)
Ok, got reassurance.
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lol.gif how is a statement being considered as assurance?
Becker did that too
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post Mar 16 2023, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Mar 15 2023, 03:20 PM)
I'm pulling because rate it 3.5%, not because of SVB  tongue.gif
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lol.gif 3.5% is quite disappointing indeed
but the risk among mmf might not be standardised either
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and the lesson from svb where bond is not safe investment all the time

however, the most annoying part of kdi is the inability to assess risk

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