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jutamind
post Feb 7 2021, 02:33 PM

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need feedback on my insurance policies portfolio:

1. AIA Assurance 1
Life insured: 200k, expiring age 100
TPD: 210k, expiring age 60
CI: 150k, expiring age 100
Premium waiver

2. AIA Assurance 2
Life insured: 100k, expiring age 100
TPD: 100k, expiring age 60
CI: 50k, expiring age 100
Medical card: 90k annual, lifetime 300k, room & board 150 expiring age 70 (with co-insurance but cant recall how much already, maybe 10-15k)
Premium waiver

3. Allianz PowerLink
Life insured: 100k, expiring age 100
TPD: 100k, expiring age 65
Medical card: 120k annual, lifetime 1.2m, room & board 200 expiring age 100
Premium waiver

4. Tokio Marine Medic Plus
Medical card: 150k annual, room & board 500 (deductible 10k per disability)

Thinking of optimizing both AIA policies but what would be a better option with the newer policies or just maintain them? To me, the more important is medical card and CI coverage.

Appreciate views from all. Thanks.

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post Feb 7 2021, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 7 2021, 02:33 PM)
need feedback on my insurance policies portfolio:

1. AIA Assurance 1
Life insured: 200k, expiring age 100
TPD: 210k, expiring age 60
CI: 150k, expiring age 100
Premium waiver

2. AIA Assurance 2
Life insured: 100k, expiring age 100
TPD: 100k, expiring age 60
CI: 50k, expiring age 100
Medical card: 90k annual, lifetime 300k, room & board 150 expiring age 70 (with co-insurance but cant recall how much already, maybe 10-15k)
Premium waiver

3. Allianz PowerLink
Life insured: 100k, expiring age 100
TPD: 100k, expiring age 65
Medical card: 120k annual, lifetime 1.2m, room & board 200 expiring age 100
Premium waiver

4. Tokio Marine Medic Plus
Medical card: 150k annual, room & board 500 (deductible 10k per disability)

Thinking of optimizing both AIA policies but what would be a better option with the newer policies or just maintain them? To me, the more important is medical card and CI coverage.

Appreciate views from all. Thanks.
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1. You mention your priority is Medical and CI coverage, have you figure out how much you're looking to cover? - there are few methods of finding it out

2. Perhaps you can look into consolidating into a single policy if you'd prefer an ease of making claims / managing your policies. I.e a single medical card with high annual limit (nowadays they come min RM1 mil annual limit and above) instead of the current set up which has low annual limit + covering another card's deductible/co-insurance.

3. You can look into upgrading on the existing policy (if it is allowed). Probably get your servicing to quote for you.

4. I can only give a general comment as I don't know you personally.
jutamind
post Feb 7 2021, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 7 2021, 03:08 PM)
1. You mention your priority is Medical and CI coverage, have you figure out how much you're looking to cover? - there are few methods of finding it out

Based on what i read, CI coverage could be 3x annual income but this is quite high to be honest and might not be affordable. I think 200-300k could be good enough for now. Is there any standalone CI policy in the market?

2. Perhaps you can look into consolidating into a single policy if you'd prefer an ease of making claims / managing your policies. I.e a single medical card with high annual limit (nowadays they come min RM1 mil annual limit and above) instead of the current set up which has low annual limit + covering another card's deductible/co-insurance.

3. You can look into upgrading on the existing policy (if it is allowed). Probably get your servicing to quote for you.

Issue is these 2 AIA policies were very old policies bought from 2 agents which i dont have any contact now. Not sure whether can change agent or even upgrade the coverage.

4. I can only give a general comment as I don't know you personally.
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TOHNO
post Feb 7 2021, 05:00 PM

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Hi Sifus, I'm planning to work as an agent part time.

May I know which agency would work best for a part timer?

I have a flexible work schedule as my full time job hence.

I'm thinking GE ,AIA , Allianz

Talked to GE earlier seems to be decent but I'm looking forward to my other 2 interviews.

I'm looking for
1. Mainly a way to grow since my freelance job is my stable source of income.
2 Learn new skills
3. Looking for a supporitve team
lifebalance
post Feb 7 2021, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 7 2021, 03:23 PM)

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For CI, it depends on your existing monthly commitment that you'll need to sustain yourself for a period of time that you're unable to work, if you feel that 3 years is good enough for you to get back to your feet, then yes, 3 years will be enough for you then.

You can either cover based on your current annual income or based on the monthly commitment + some extras (to cater for any extra medication / supplements / etc)

There are standalone CI as well as ILPs which you can set low death coverage but more to the CI benefit.

As far as AIA is concern, nothing much you can do with the old policies unless you choose to buy a newer AIA policy.
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post Feb 7 2021, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(TOHNO @ Feb 7 2021, 05:00 PM)
Hi Sifus, I'm planning to work as an agent part time.

May I know which agency would work best for a part timer?

I have a flexible work schedule as my full time job hence.

I'm thinking GE ,AIA , Allianz

Talked to GE earlier seems to be decent but I'm looking forward to my other 2 interviews.

I'm looking for
1. Mainly a way to grow since my freelance job is my stable source of income.
2 Learn new skills
3. Looking for a supporitve team
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laugh.gif I'm sure you'll be swarmed with PMs soon for recruitment.

If you're talking about agency, it's best for you to go see their agency and environment to see if it suits you as everyone's preference is different.

Do make sure your recruiter knows what he's doing, some managers just do recruitment but don't really know much about their company products nor teach you properly and just expect sales figure or you're ignored.

Good luck smile.gif
ckdenion
post Feb 7 2021, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(TOHNO @ Feb 7 2021, 05:00 PM)
Hi Sifus, I'm planning to work as an agent part time.

May I know which agency would work best for a part timer?

I have a flexible work schedule as my full time job hence.

I'm thinking GE ,AIA , Allianz

Talked to GE earlier seems to be decent but I'm looking forward to my other 2 interviews.

I'm looking for
1. Mainly a way to grow since my freelance job is my stable source of income.
2 Learn new skills
3. Looking for a supporitve team
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hi TOHNO, so long an agency accepts part timer, then that will be good enough. for point 1 and 2 definitely you will get it along the way. in terms of supportive team, I will advise if you can join in their meeting and see their culture, that will be good. to me that is crucial to know the agency better. do let me know if you wanna explore other agencies. wink.gif
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post Feb 8 2021, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 6 2021, 10:15 PM)
All insurance companies and takaful operators under the Life Insurance Association of Malaysia (LIAM) and Malaysian Takaful Association (MTA) have confirmed that they will provide hospitalisation and treatment coverage for COVID-19 – but your policy may differ in terms of specific benefits, terms and conditions.

Here are the list of LIAM insurance and takaful operators providing COVID-19 coverage:

AIA Bhd
Allianz Life Insurance Malaysia Berhad
AmMetLife Insurance Berhad
AXA AFFIN Life Insurance Berhad
Etiqa Life Insurance Berhad
Gibraltar BSN Life Berhad
Great Eastern Life Assurance (Malaysia) Berhad
Hannover Rueck SE, Malaysian Branch
Hong Leong Assurance Berhad
Malaysian Life Reinsurance Group Berhad
Manulife Insurance Berhad
MCIS Insurance Berhad
Prudential Assurance Malaysia Berhad
Sun Life Malaysia Assurance Berhad
Tokio Marine Life Insurance Malaysia Bhd.
Zurich Life Insurance Malaysia Berhad

Benefits such as: (Depends on the company)
- Hospitalisation benefit of RM200 per day up to 30 days
- Death benefit
- Hospitalisation cash relief
- One time payoff upon diagnosis
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Hi, I checked already, aia got provide covid insurance specially , can buy via online, quite good, more than 600 people bought in 1 week


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post Feb 8 2021, 04:45 PM

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I heard AIA 1st covid hospitalization claim is 65k.

This post has been edited by KLlang: Feb 8 2021, 06:04 PM
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post Feb 8 2021, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 7 2021, 02:33 PM)
need feedback on my insurance policies portfolio:

1. AIA Assurance 1
Life insured: 200k, expiring age 100
TPD: 210k, expiring age 60
CI: 150k, expiring age 100
Premium waiver

2. AIA Assurance 2
Life insured: 100k, expiring age 100
TPD: 100k, expiring age 60
CI: 50k, expiring age 100
Medical card: 90k annual, lifetime 300k, room & board 150 expiring age 70 (with co-insurance but cant recall how much already, maybe 10-15k)
Premium waiver

3. Allianz PowerLink
Life insured: 100k, expiring age 100
TPD: 100k, expiring age 65
Medical card: 120k annual, lifetime 1.2m, room & board 200 expiring age 100
Premium waiver

4. Tokio Marine Medic Plus
Medical card: 150k annual, room & board 500 (deductible 10k per disability)

Thinking of optimizing both AIA policies but what would be a better option with the newer policies or just maintain them? To me, the more important is medical card and CI coverage.

Appreciate views from all. Thanks.
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While i agree medical coverage is very important, you might want to consolidate your medical coverage somewhat in one policy instead of spread across 3 plans unless there's more unseen reason.

Having higher coverage from 1 company should be cheaper than having 3 lower coverage from 3 different companies.
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post Feb 8 2021, 11:59 PM

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all my cash value in allianz income provider become 0 inside my customer portal, omg!?

is this some technical glitch? anybody else having same issue? it suppose to have rm81k in it.
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post Feb 9 2021, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 8 2021, 11:59 PM)
all my cash value in allianz income provider become 0 inside my customer portal, omg!?

is this some technical glitch? anybody else having same issue? it suppose to have rm81k in it.
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smile.gif I doubt 81k will go missing all the sudden, call in tomorrow to check with the customer service.
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post Feb 9 2021, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 9 2021, 12:02 AM)
smile.gif  I doubt 81k will go missing all the sudden, call in tomorrow to check with the customer service.
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it stated 'in-force' but like this


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post Feb 9 2021, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 7 2021, 02:33 PM)
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hi jutamind, by looking at the policies, first what you can do is make sure you get a medical card with high annual limit. the above policies have high COI on medical plan. (unless there is any special condition whereby you have pre-existing illness)

then next priority will be CI whereby only your 2 AIA policies have it, so these 2 are the ones you want to maintain. then upon reviewing your current needs, then only you consider wanna top-up in your existing AIA policies or get a new one (if the existing AIA policies can't put in the latest medical card rider)

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hi KLlang, thanks for the info. if have the claim details then it will be better.

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hi ahleemaju, likely a technical glitch. perhaps holocene can help. wink.gif
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post Feb 9 2021, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 9 2021, 12:09 AM)
it stated 'in-force' but like this
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Suggest you check with customer service because checking my own client portal, the balance is there.

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post Feb 10 2021, 08:10 AM

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Any AIA agents here can confirm whether Covid is categorized as infectious disease or not?

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 10 2021, 08:10 AM)
Any AIA agents here can confirm whether Covid is categorized as infectious disease or not?
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hi WaCKy-Angel, based on WHO (COVID-19 info by WHO), it is an infectious disease. hope the article helps. just curious why do you specifically ask AIA agents? Mind to share?
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post Feb 10 2021, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 10 2021, 08:10 AM)
Any AIA agents here can confirm whether Covid is categorized as infectious disease or not?
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Do note that Covid has 5 category: 1-5 (1 is mild 5 is very severe that on ventilator.) We need the AiA agent Rajan CFP to clarify which category is cover and which is not cover.

As I heard 1 & 2 admission to private hospitals is non-coverable.
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 10 2021, 08:10 AM)
Any AIA agents here can confirm whether Covid is categorized as infectious disease or not?
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Yes, it's an infectious disease
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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Feb 10 2021, 09:59 PM)
Do note that Covid has 5 category: 1-5 (1 is mild 5 is very severe that on ventilator.) We need the AiA agent Rajan CFP to clarify which category is cover and which is not cover.

As I heard 1 & 2 admission to private hospitals is non-coverable.
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The term in use is "communicable diseases that require quarantine by law".

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