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pharaoh5312
post Feb 18 2021, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 18 2021, 07:36 PM)
2) is largely depending on your budget and circumstances as well. If your budget can only buy A+B, no point asking worth to buy A + B + C + D.

Or if you have family of heart disease you might think ci very important. Or if you have dependent and you are sole breadwinner, than life insurance become very important also.

3) actually you 24 only, why so scared. Haha.... actually just apply the insurance like normal and tell the truth.
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2. Thanks. Really helpful advice thumbup.gif

3. Haha who knows later suddenly kena accidental findings. Nowadays so many opportunities to make young people get diabetes and hypertension lmao.
Yeap. Plan to tell the truth. Cuz I still young, no point doing health checkups so I am healthy brows.gif


What's your thoughts between AIA, GE and Prudential? Or any other companies you would recommend?
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post Feb 18 2021, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Feb 18 2021, 03:47 PM)
ic. now i understand your concern. i can assure you that you do not have to worry about this since it is made clear that this plan doesn't need health underwriting so definitely wont have any claim issue due to that too. no worries ya wink.gif
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thx for your reply


it's made clear on the product page, but not in policy. can i use the product brochure as my backup if anything unpleasant happened?


i asking here wonder if anybody else have similar experience of blank answer on health question section, what does it indicated?
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post Feb 18 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 18 2021, 10:06 PM)
thx for your reply
it's made clear on the product page, but not in policy. can i use the product brochure as my backup if anything unpleasant happened?
i asking here wonder if anybody else have similar experience of blank answer on health question section, what does it indicated?
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The policy contract that you screenshot has a section where only questionnaire applicable for this 1Cover plan is needed to be answered.

It'll supersede the general template that you've shown.
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post Feb 18 2021, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(pharaoh5312 @ Feb 18 2021, 08:26 PM)
2. Thanks. Really helpful advice  thumbup.gif

3. Haha who knows later suddenly kena accidental findings. Nowadays so many opportunities to make young people get diabetes and hypertension lmao.
Yeap. Plan to tell the truth. Cuz I still young, no point doing health checkups so I am healthy  brows.gif
What's your thoughts between AIA, GE and Prudential? Or any other companies you would recommend?
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I cannot give unbias comment. That's why i didnt answer your 1st question. Hahaha... all selling apples and oranges...

But all 3, same same la. You just see which agent you likey...
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post Feb 18 2021, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 18 2021, 10:24 PM)
I cannot give unbias comment. That's why i didnt answer your 1st question. Hahaha... all selling apples and oranges...

But all 3, same same la. You just see which agent you likey...
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laugh.gif it's not really the "same", the plans offered does have some differentiation.
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post Feb 18 2021, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(pharaoh5312 @ Feb 18 2021, 08:26 PM)
2. Thanks. Really helpful advice  thumbup.gif

3. Haha who knows later suddenly kena accidental findings. Nowadays so many opportunities to make young people get diabetes and hypertension lmao.
Yeap. Plan to tell the truth. Cuz I still young, no point doing health checkups so I am healthy  brows.gif
What's your thoughts between AIA, GE and Prudential? Or any other companies you would recommend?
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Few points to look into:
1. Which company cost of insurance lower in quotation.
2. Which company claim ratio lower to cut down the frequent of repricing.

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post Feb 18 2021, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(pharaoh5312 @ Feb 18 2021, 06:09 PM)
Hi sifu, really new to this so sorry if I sound very stupid (because I am lol)

I'm 24 and wish to buy a medical insurance very soon. I have a few concerns that I would like to be cleared:

1. Which company in the big three (Great Eastern, AIA, Prudential) or any other companies has the easiest claim policy and no drama and no fuss on unable to claim stuff like that. Plus which has also the most hospitals that accept their medical card. Assuming all the other confounding variables that may affect this are standardised/ignored. (example of confounding variables: type of plan i might get, cheap or expensive plan)
i'd done claims for GE, AIA, Pru, Allianz, HLA, Manulife and AXA Affin policies before. So far no any unpleasant experience. but if you google around you will see people complain about bad experience in claims even from big companies. But usually there are standard documents needed for claims, so just need to submit whatever the company needed for claims will do. So agent plays an important role to help to follow up and expedite on the claim process.

i have no idea which got the most hospitals but more or less most private hospitals are panel hospital of insurance companies. cant really specifically point out which has the most though. have to ask agent from different companies or Financial Advisor Representative to show you the list.


2. Do you think if it is worth it to include "critical illness" and "waiver of premium" in the plan? And if I already have the "critical illness" plan should I still get a life insurance?
It is not about whether it's worth or not, it's about whether you need it or not. if you already have the critical illness payout benefit in the plan, then next thing to look at is whether you need life insurance or not (to cancel off any loans, for bereavement benefit, for long term care in the event of TPD, etc.)


3. Should I do a full body checkup before I sign up for a medical insurance plan? Or should I not leave any record in any hospitals so that the company won't be able to dig them up   brows.gif
It is not necessary to do full body checkup before you sign. but if you do so, then you must declare to insurance companies that you went to do the checkup, and company will query what's the reason you do the test and might have the possibility to ask you to submit all the test report done.


Thank you sifus. I'll appreciate any help
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hi pharaoh5312, good questions you asked above. don't worry it doesn't sound stupid at all. imo its a good start! hope my replies above answer your concerns.


QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Feb 18 2021, 11:19 PM)
Few points to look into:
1. Which company cost of insurance lower in quotation.
2. Which company claim ratio lower to cut down the frequent of repricing.
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hi Ewa, any idea how to get Point 2?

This post has been edited by ckdenion: Feb 18 2021, 11:40 PM
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post Feb 19 2021, 06:19 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 18 2021, 10:16 PM)
The policy contract that you screenshot has a section where only questionnaire applicable for this 1Cover plan is needed to be answered.

It'll supersede the general template that you've shown.
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erm, which sentence u meant?

thanks
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post Feb 19 2021, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Feb 18 2021, 11:19 PM)
Few points to look into:
1. Which company cost of insurance lower in quotation.
2. Which company claim ratio lower to cut down the frequent of repricing.
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1. Cost of insurance is not guaranteed, how are you going to make sure it stays the same?

2. Kindly share how you obtain such data, I'm very interested to know.

QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 19 2021, 06:19 AM)
erm, which sentence u meant?

thanks
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It's a form, you'll have to search within that soft copy you've received.
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post Feb 19 2021, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 19 2021, 08:17 AM)
1. Cost of insurance is not guaranteed, how are you going to make sure it stays the same?

2. Kindly share how you obtain such data, I'm very interested to know.
It's a form, you'll have to search within that soft copy you've received.
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1. agreed that cost of insurance is not guaranteed but each company cost of insurance for medical card is not the same. Do refer to the quotation from each company then u will know.

2. The more claim a company made obviously the chances of insurance repricing happen very frequent. no date shown but is a common sense. up to everyone in the forum to take this point or ignore when choosing their desire insurance company.
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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Feb 19 2021, 10:20 AM)
1. agreed that cost of insurance is not guaranteed but each company cost of insurance for medical card is not the same. Do refer to the quotation from each company then u will know.

2. The more claim a company made obviously the chances of insurance repricing happen very frequent. no date shown but is a common sense. up to everyone in the forum to take this point or ignore when choosing their desire insurance company.
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doh.gif so you gave a pointer

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Few points to look into:
1. Which company cost of insurance lower in quotation.
2. Which company claim ratio lower to cut down the frequent of repricing.


Without giving a solution on how people could obtain such info/data on which insurance company has a lower claim ratio but to use common sense hmm.gif

That being said, claims are subjective, how are you going to say "Company A" is going to have more claims in 10 years time than "Company B" ? if there is such certainty, you're better than a fortune teller to be able to find that out.

Company A/B/C/D which has lower claim ratio now doesn't mean in the future it's claim ratio will remain low.

But I can say that if Company XYZ has programs that encourages its policyholder to exercise and be rewarded for staying healthy thus lowering the claim ratio. Hence the reason why AIA has AIA Vitality that their policy holder can subscribe to and be rewarded for staying healthy while the insurance company also enjoys lower claim ratio in the long term.

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Feb 19 2021, 11:35 AM
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post Feb 19 2021, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Feb 19 2021, 10:20 AM)
1. agreed that cost of insurance is not guaranteed but each company cost of insurance for medical card is not the same. Do refer to the quotation from each company then u will know.

2. The more claim a company made obviously the chances of insurance repricing happen very frequent. no date shown but is a common sense. up to everyone in the forum to take this point or ignore when choosing their desire insurance company.
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you are right on "claim ratio lower hence lower chances of medical card cost of insurance repricing". only thing since I'm a consumer and i wanna look into this in choosing medical card, where can I check on the claim ratio of each different insurance companies?
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hii do you know any good insurance plans that cover pre existing conditions/illnesses? google isnt helping much:(
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QUOTE(ivych @ Feb 20 2021, 07:54 AM)
hii do you know any good insurance plans that cover pre existing conditions/illnesses? google isnt helping much:(
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If you're referring to medical benefits that will cover pre existing illness, the answer is none.

If you're saying you would still want to buy some insurance even if you have pre existing illness, there are some plans currently in the market that will cover for Death benefit even if your health record book is not superb. However this is not applicable for medical benefits.
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ivych @ Feb 20 2021, 07:54 AM)
hii do you know any good insurance plans that cover pre existing conditions/illnesses? google isnt helping much:(
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Happy Niu Year to you ivych! mind to let us know what are the pre existing conditions/illnesses that you are referring to?
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QUOTE(ivych @ Feb 20 2021, 07:54 AM)
hii do you know any good insurance plans that cover pre existing conditions/illnesses? google isnt helping much:(
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No luck to cover pre exiting conditions/illnesses hmm.gif unless under acceptable level , we got client high blood pressure fully medical accepted recently.

If look for no medical underwriting plan then yes. Mostly Life plan / Saving plan.

Example GE Great Life Gift offer till end of this month
https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...-life-gift.html

This post has been edited by tyenfei: Feb 20 2021, 03:47 PM
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post Feb 20 2021, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(ivych @ Feb 20 2021, 07:54 AM)
hii do you know any good insurance plans that cover pre existing conditions/illnesses? google isnt helping much:(
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Hi ivych, unfortunately, pre-existing conditions/illness is fall under general exclusion in all companies. But, do not feel down, there are non-medical underwriting plans available.

You may share what the specific pre-existing conditions are, then we may enlighten you here.
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QUOTE(pharaoh5312 @ Feb 18 2021, 06:09 PM)
Hi sifu, really new to this so sorry if I sound very stupid (because I am lol)

I'm 24 and wish to buy a medical insurance very soon. I have a few concerns that I would like to be cleared:

1. Which company in the big three (Great Eastern, AIA, Prudential) or any other companies has the easiest claim policy and no drama and no fuss on unable to claim stuff like that. Plus which has also the most hospitals that accept their medical card. Assuming all the other confounding variables that may affect this are standardised/ignored. (example of confounding variables: type of plan i might get, cheap or expensive plan)

2. Do you think if it is worth it to include "critical illness" and "waiver of premium" in the plan? And if I already have the "critical illness" plan should I still get a life insurance?

3. Should I do a full body checkup before I sign up for a medical insurance plan? Or should I not leave any record in any hospitals so that the company won't be able to dig them up  brows.gif

Thank you sifus. I'll appreciate any help
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Hi pharoah5312,

1. Do you agree? medical insurance claim involve doctors, hospital, customer, agent and insurance company.
It is important for a successful claim shall be done within medically necessary and customary & reasonable charges among all parties above.

2. It is completely depend on an individual needs.

3. Good to be health conscious since young. Check-up done or not in past 6 months, make sure it is properly declare in the proposal. The normal process require check up (if any) is only after proposal sign up and submit.
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Hi, currently my wife is having second baby. Want to ask what is the best value insurance to buy for the baby?

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Feb 26 2021, 09:50 AM)
Hi, currently my wife is having second baby. Want to ask what is the best value insurance to buy for the baby?
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while waiting for value added responses, you can try this

Which Malaysian Insurance provides the Best Protection for your Child?
https://www.ibanding.my/which-malaysian-ins...for-your-child/

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=...sclient=gws-wiz

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