Here is my initial test on Pentium Intel Pentium Core(tm)2 Duo E2160
Stock 1.8ghz OC to 3.6ghz = 100% OC
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Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140/E2160/E2180 Thread, Discussion & Compilation
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Jun 16 2007, 03:24 PM, updated 19y ago
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wonder can it be done on air..``
btw, in bios.. u pump the vcore over 1.6v or below? |
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Jun 16 2007, 03:39 PM
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wahh nice clocks.. how bout media benchies??
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nice result there..
but thats in WC..i wonder how high the temperature could be if just use air cooling |
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Jun 16 2007, 03:56 PM
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Have u tried on ur Abit QuadGT? I just cant go further with this mobo. I wonder why ur L2 stepping can go that high without mod.
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Jun 16 2007, 04:09 PM
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getting one tomorrow with a 650i chipset mobo. Normal Transcend RAM's but wanna see how these will go
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Jun 16 2007, 04:18 PM
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good job. but can u try on air? or u don't have air cooler?
many interested with oc on air cuz this is budget proc. budget and water cooling doesn't sound right to many lol. |
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Jun 16 2007, 04:25 PM
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wow, nice result... try set properly n run otrhos leh... the temp so low ar??? wonder if air cooled how...
raymond!!! u play till nothing to play ar??? ehh wanna sell the proc??? hahahaha... me oso wanna try... hehe... pm me a... i just bought swiftech wc kit from metalzone... err will install when i'm free... |
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Jun 16 2007, 07:23 PM
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wow nice rsult
I'm planning buy E2160/E4300 too. Anybody know, good batch for those conroe ? |
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Jun 16 2007, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 16 2007, 03:39 PM) Is the stock vcore for E2160 at 1.325v?Wow, 1.55v is quite high isn't it? Would would be the recommended "highest" vcore on air? Can somebody do an OC on air-cooling? Really consider getting one of these procs!!! This post has been edited by kmarc: Jun 16 2007, 08:24 PM |
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Jun 16 2007, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jun 16 2007, 03:53 PM) nice result there.. but thats in WC..i wonder how high the temperature could be if just use air cooling QUOTE(toughnut @ Jun 16 2007, 04:18 PM) good job. but can u try on air? or u don't have air cooler? many interested with oc on air cuz this is budget proc. budget and water cooling doesn't sound right to many lol. QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 16 2007, 08:22 PM) Is the stock vcore for E2160 at 1.325v? Monday i will get a CM Gemini II to test it on air Wow, 1.55v is quite high isn't it? Would would be the recommended "highest" vcore on air? Can somebody do an OC on air-cooling? Really consider getting one of these procs!!! let see how!!!! |
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I also think its quite high. Only superPi 1M should ok but for daily use and stability @ 1.56v and air cooling is not recommended i think.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 16 2007, 03:56 PM) Have u tried on ur Abit QuadGT? I just cant go further with this mobo. I wonder why ur L2 stepping can go that high without mod. Abit QuadGT is 1 of the best P965 mobo but it need more MCH voltageshouldn't be a problem to go high bro........ sadly mine sold ady QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Jun 16 2007, 04:25 PM) wow, nice result... try set properly n run otrhos leh... the temp so low ar??? wonder if air cooled how... u wtb ka !raymond!!! u play till nothing to play ar??? ehh wanna sell the proc??? hahahaha... me oso wanna try... hehe... pm me a... i just bought swiftech wc kit from metalzone... err will install when i'm free... my proc wts soon hehe.......... |
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Jun 16 2007, 10:34 PM
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Just bought and already WTS!?
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Jun 16 2007, 10:37 PM
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Jun 16 2007, 10:51 PM
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Pentium will not die. The introduction of Pentium back in 1993 was a big hit anyway.
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Jun 16 2007, 10:56 PM
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Not just Pentium. It's "Pentium Dual-core"!
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Jun 16 2007, 11:24 PM
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congrat bro. very nice clocking there. i wonder if you are using a higher end WC, your score will definately top Lowyat.NET record oc database
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Jun 16 2007, 11:43 PM
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woot~ nice result... feel like getting it and try it out...
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Jun 17 2007, 12:23 AM
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lol, value OC chips huh, with WC. still can be considered value OC chips huh...
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Jun 17 2007, 06:19 AM
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But 1MB sure bottlenecks in many cache intensive application especially games. E6420 perform similar to E2series @ 3GHz
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Jun 18 2007, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 16 2007, 03:56 PM) Have u tried on ur Abit QuadGT? I just cant go further with this mobo. I wonder why ur L2 stepping can go that high without mod. Probably for ur case, it's not the Mobo's limitation, but the E4XXX has FSB walls.QUOTE(maput @ Jun 16 2007, 07:23 PM) wow nice rsult Probably, 'ALL' the batches will OC consistently wellI'm planning buy E2160/E4300 too. Anybody know, good batch for those conroe ? I'm waiting impatiently for my E2140 to arrive. |
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Jun 18 2007, 10:06 AM
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From xbitlabs review E2140 overclocks lower than E2160. Dunno bout ppl here experience though.
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Jun 18 2007, 11:11 AM
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well,these two are good overclocker,cheap and perfect performance mah.
going to have one soon. |
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i m getting my 2160 tomorrow with a S3, hope for some great result
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Jun 18 2007, 03:38 PM
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S3 can go to FSB400 with ease. U intend to OC ur proc superpc? I u will, post some results here ok.
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for sure i wan to OC it, tats the purpose i wan to buy it
be patient, the shop onli can giv me the stock tomorrow but i scare the cheapo northbridge on S3 too small to sustain the temperature, maybe attaching a pentium 2 fan will help This post has been edited by superpc: Jun 18 2007, 04:29 PM |
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Jun 18 2007, 04:33 PM
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gah this E2160 I have can't budge past 900Mhz FSB. suspecting mobo since it's an Abit FP-IN9
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Jun 18 2007, 05:38 PM
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So low, even Asrock can do better, check again those settings. Maybe need BIOS update or what...
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Jun 19 2007, 02:00 PM
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Jun 19 2007, 04:54 PM
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Maybe u may playing around with divider between RAM and CPU.
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Jun 19 2007, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 19 2007, 02:00 PM) original fsb is at 200mhz oc 2 225mhz..wah which means oni 225mhz clock speed increase ka?? but then is it really d mobo.cos according 2 xbit labs they managed 2 oc an e6600 fr 266mhz 2 375mhz.dats quite a lot.so it's quite strange dat d e2160 cant do d same.pls correct me kalo salah This post has been edited by Ah Shawn: Jun 19 2007, 07:46 PM |
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Jun 19 2007, 08:20 PM
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Anyway all core processor can at least oc up to 1GHz increase if the mobo and ram is right.
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Jun 20 2007, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 19 2007, 08:20 PM) Debatable statement. It also depends on the cooling, CPU rated speed ( a lower speed family tends to overclock more easily, ie a 1.8ghz default speed will overclock more compared to a 3.0ghz default rated speed of the same family) and also the 'batches' of the cpu, which isnt that important as most of them will overclock relatively well |
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Eh, got default 3 GHz Core processor. Got only X6800 that is 2.93GHz which stock multiplier can go to 3.9GHz. Im referring to Anandtech website. Its tru u need right mobo, psu, ram, and air cooler.
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got my 2160 n 965P-S3, setting up the system now
damn i was noob enough to set up a new raid n lost all my data after settling all the software, OC will be done some weird issue thou, i need to +1V to my ballistix in order to install windows, else blue screen will jus appear...hope it doesnt hurt |
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Jun 20 2007, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 20 2007, 08:31 PM) got my 2160 n 965P-S3, setting up the system now So how goes your OC?damn i was noob enough to set up a new raid n lost all my data after settling all the software, OC will be done some weird issue thou, i need to +1V to my ballistix in order to install windows, else blue screen will jus appear...hope it doesnt hurt Errr... +1V on DDR2? 1.8v + 1 = 2.8v??? |
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damn i m hitting FSB wall, i think, it stuck at 355FSB, wont boot at 360
i tried lower multiplier, same +0.2V on chipset, +0.2V on FSB voltage ram is running 4 4 4 12 2V 1:1 FSB any idea? spec below E2160 965S3 F9(tried F8 F10 same result) Crucial Ballistix PC5300 X1950pro Audigy Western 160GB RAID 0 and i found my system shut down everytime i change the MIB setting, n power on by itself back, issit normal? This post has been edited by superpc: Jun 21 2007, 12:16 AM |
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Try playing with divider.
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 20 2007, 10:55 PM) damn i m hitting FSB wall, i think, it stuck at 355FSB, wont boot at 360 that is normal shutdown restart againi tried lower multiplier, same +0.2V on chipset, +0.2V on FSB voltage ram is running 4 4 4 12 2V 1:1 FSB any idea? spec below E2160 965S3 F9(tried F8 F10 same result) Crucial Ballistix PC5300 X1950pro Audigy Western 160GB RAID 0 and i found my system shut down everytime i change the MIB setting, n power on by itself back, issit normal? my e2160 hit fsb wall@410fsb This post has been edited by rlhc17: Jun 21 2007, 01:15 PM |
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Jun 21 2007, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 21 2007, 12:48 PM) It's normal for P965 chipset to power down n up after fsb manipulation in bios. This is "Global Reset" as it sets the proper NB strap speedWhat cooling are u on? The NB is pretty toasty, perhaps adding a fan to it will help cool it down. u shouldnt need so much Vmch to hit 400fsb, +0.1v will do. And yes, agree with rlhc17, the E2XXX has fsb walls around 400fsb. |
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i m using thermaltake beetle, load around 63C @ 3.1ghz 1.45V
i already add a fan on the NB, n i touched it, it is onli warm 0.1V n 0.2V tried, same tried 1 stick ram instead of 2, tried remove audigy, tried remove harddisk, and disable everything in bios(those self-adjust thingy) |
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Jun 21 2007, 01:40 PM
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Guess ur not a newbie in OCing. I'm running out of possibilities. Whack up the Vcore higher? cant think of other possibilities.. 3.2ghz still something 2 b proud off
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i will try to up more vcore
if still cant, then i will try it on my brother DS3 i m expecting 3.4ghz from tis but still, it is a lot faster than my previous processor, i can sense the difference Added on June 21, 2007, 4:31 pmup vcore doesnt help, i guess i got a bad batch of 2160 i notice some weird thing, now i m running 1.45V, if i up the vcore to 1.46 or somthing higher, it wont boot. This post has been edited by superpc: Jun 21 2007, 04:31 PM |
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superpc: try put vdimm 2.3v
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Jun 21 2007, 06:17 PM
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@superpc, mayb try some bios mod or something. U can try reading around S3 tips and workarounds. Plenty of it. It will help a lot. Cant help much here as i haven got any experience with it
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anybody sell this proc for bulk price??might get my 2nd budget rig...
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QUOTE(Frankiec91 @ Jun 21 2007, 06:13 PM) have to wait my ram cooler to arrive first, the crucial is super damn hot, scare it will be spoilt.QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jun 21 2007, 06:17 PM) @superpc, mayb try some bios mod or something. U can try reading around S3 tips and workarounds. Plenty of it. It will help a lot. Cant help much here as i haven got any experience with it okay~but there is no modded bios out there for S3 i think, all for DS3thanks for help This post has been edited by superpc: Jun 21 2007, 07:19 PM |
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Flashed the FP-IP9's BIOS to BETA 14 and guess what? It blinkin works, altho funnily, only at FSB's of 333Mhz and beyond with setting Unlinked. Otherwise tak boleh boot. Currently at stock volts 3.0Ghz priming away. Stock aluminium heatsink in use till can find good one second hand (Temps 73C according to sensor, which I don't trust). Max with the assistance of a Japan Servo 120mm blowing at the mobo was at 3.28Ghz 1.45v VCORE (Max temp 81C...ZOMFGBBQOHSHEET). Can do more I think. Guess either mobo limitation or RAM limitation
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 21 2007, 07:54 PM) Flashed the FP-IP9's BIOS to BETA 14 and guess what? It blinkin works, altho funnily, only at FSB's of 333Mhz and beyond with setting Unlinked. Otherwise tak boleh boot. Currently at stock volts 3.0Ghz priming away. Stock aluminium heatsink in use till can find good one second hand (Temps 73C according to sensor, which I don't trust). Max with the assistance of a Japan Servo 120mm blowing at the mobo was at 3.28Ghz 1.45v VCORE (Max temp 81C...ZOMFGBBQOHSHEET). Can do more I think. Guess either mobo limitation or RAM limitation speedfan read the correct voltageother program take the tjunction of intel as 100C, which is 85C in truth |
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 21 2007, 01:43 PM) i will try to up more vcore sorry f0r askin' ya.. if still cant, then i will try it on my brother DS3 i m expecting 3.4ghz from tis but still, it is a lot faster than my previous processor, i can sense the difference Added on June 21, 2007, 4:31 pmup vcore doesnt help, i guess i got a bad batch of 2160 i notice some weird thing, now i m running 1.45V, if i up the vcore to 1.46 or somthing higher, it wont boot. wat is hardware dya use?? |
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 21 2007, 08:27 PM) yeah I think so but speedfan seems a bit cacat in detecting voltages. So think I'll try gauging using Core Temp instead. core temp same for me, reading wrong voltageQUOTE(gengstapo @ Jun 21 2007, 08:37 PM) 965P-S3, E2160, 1950Pro, Ballistix pc5300 2X1GB, Antec TP-II 550W, WD 160GB X 2 RAID 0, Thermaltake beetleAdded on June 21, 2007, 9:22 pmanother thing i suspect is my ram, since i saw a lot of article online tat gigabyte dun like D9. This post has been edited by superpc: Jun 21 2007, 09:22 PM |
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QUOTE(Frankiec91 @ Jun 21 2007, 06:13 PM) Dont try to kill ur ram Added on June 21, 2007, 10:42 pmBy the way superpc, dont you think ur beetle is the culprit for not oc any higher? Or maybe not, try to increase Vmch, Vfsb, and Vcore, L2 needs high Vcore, If u want to go 3.3GHz and higher maybe need 1.5v and above. This post has been edited by §layerXT: Jun 21 2007, 10:42 PM |
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 21 2007, 10:39 PM) Dont try to kill ur ram load at 63C high? even my brother watercooling with his 4300 also reach nearly 60CAdded on June 21, 2007, 10:42 pmBy the way superpc, dont you think ur beetle is the culprit for not oc any higher? Or maybe not, try to increase Vmch, Vfsb, and Vcore, L2 needs high Vcore, If u want to go 3.3GHz and higher maybe need 1.5v and above. dunno, maybe i will assemble the thermaltake bigwater left aside weekend vmch, vfsb, vcore all increased, even tried 0.3 on mch 1.5V vcore doesnt help anything, i tried... it is jus plain...weird... |
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Maybe it is ur processor limit at 1.5V. How bout try WC and increase to 1.6V and try to push summore.
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I just bought :
C2D 2160 Gigabyte GA-p35-DS3 Galaxy 8600GT (OC) 2 x 1GB Corsair Value Ram Enermax 460W 1 160GB HDD 1 Imation DVD writer Audigy 2zs Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~ Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR? This post has been edited by pcomet: Jun 22 2007, 12:17 AM |
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 21 2007, 11:50 PM) Maybe it is ur processor limit at 1.5V. How bout try WC and increase to 1.6V and try to push summore. if tat is the case, i'd better stick with current setting, 1.6V sounds too high for meQUOTE(pcomet @ Jun 22 2007, 12:16 AM) I just bought : google and search button are ur best frenC2D 2160 Gigabyte GA-p35-DS3 Galaxy 8600GT (OC) 2 x 1GB Corsair Value Ram Enermax 460W 1 160GB HDD 1 Imation DVD writer Audigy 2zs Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~ Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR? performance ram giv u more bandwidth, and better overclockability, if u r going to run it at default speed, it doesnt make much difference |
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QUOTE(pcomet @ Jun 22 2007, 12:16 AM) I just bought : That is possible. Changing ur ram wont change that much. If u set for around 2.8GHz on stock air coolong it should be ok.C2D 2160 Gigabyte GA-p35-DS3 Galaxy 8600GT (OC) 2 x 1GB Corsair Value Ram Enermax 460W 1 160GB HDD 1 Imation DVD writer Audigy 2zs Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~ Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR? |
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QUOTE(pcomet @ Jun 22 2007, 01:16 AM) I just bought : can see ur Corsair use wat chip...? new Corsair got lotsa negative comments on OC'ing... but i know i reached 266x9 and RAM DDR800 wif 2 pcs Mushkin 512MB DDR667 RAM... for DDR800 better to get Team or Crucial... cuz Corsair only give Micron chip for DDR1066 and above... C2D 2160 Gigabyte GA-p35-DS3 Galaxy 8600GT (OC) 2 x 1GB Corsair Value Ram Enermax 460W 1 160GB HDD 1 Imation DVD writer Audigy 2zs Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~ Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR? |
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lol all ppl take 2160 as core 2 duo >.<
it is pentium actually pity, pentium has been 4gotten since core 2 |
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 22 2007, 01:25 PM) lol all ppl take 2160 as core 2 duo >.< technically, it's just branding to be honest. E2160 still utilises Conroe cores so it has every right to be called a C2D. Pentium is an old name which Intel would wanna leave behind ever since they realised their extended pipelining disaster of Pentium 4it is pentium actually pity, pentium has been 4gotten since core 2 |
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 22 2007, 05:39 PM) technically, it's just branding to be honest. E2160 still utilises Conroe cores so it has every right to be called a C2D. Pentium is an old name which Intel would wanna leave behind ever since they realised their extended pipelining disaster of Pentium 4 true, technically i reli wonder wat is their intention for naming the conroe "Pentium" |
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nice processoer with good cooling here...
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i liked his temp n processor that is like another 100% increase!! n only 40C wtf i think wif peltier should b perfect
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wow i jus changed the thermal compound to MX-1 and the temperature drop like 10C...now load around 53C onli @1.45V 3.15Ghz
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what is the Super PI 1M value at stock for this proc ?
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Pentium is legendary name anyway. Regardless of what architecture they implement.
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I wonder will Pentium name survive until Nahelem architecture...
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i still remember my pentium 75 lappie... hahaha...
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haha the GOTO command ah???
neh i gave it to a fren long time back... but i still have my pentium 100 n pentium 233mmx proc with me... hahaha.. antique... (i lost my older 80386 n 80486 procs)... i got a fren juz bought e2160 last few days, i still haven't got time to have a look at it, but he claims that his proc can't oc much... it's lower than 330fsb... using gigabyte p35-ds3... with gigabyte 550w psu... |
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i think new batch core 2 doesnt OC tat well, my brother 4300 OC around the same as me.
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Upon full load, you will expect some voltage droop.
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my 2160 need 1.4V for 3.0ghz, running 24/7 folding
reli not a good overclock chip on my hand if i try to shot it and get it to be fried, i wonder if i can claim the warranty and get a new chip |
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jul 9 2007, 08:08 PM) my 2160 need 1.4V for 3.0ghz, running 24/7 folding No wonder bcoz of L2 stepping. It should not be blamed. 3GHz for 1.4V ok edi.reli not a good overclock chip on my hand if i try to shot it and get it to be fried, i wonder if i can claim the warranty and get a new chip |
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Hi all. Anyone tried doing the BSEL mod on this processor? Will the BSEL mod work at all? I'm planning to get one of these soon
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ohho.. but i heard some mobo without updated bios will not boot..
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mine is SLA3H
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Pentium is Pentium, Core is Core. That is a Pentium Dual Core
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QUOTE(samuel_lai @ Jul 12 2007, 07:59 PM) Not anymore...sigh some just don't bother keep an update as to how Intel market it's porcessorshttp://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...um-e2160_2.html Architecturally it's still a Core processor but cut back. Think modern day celeron ![]() This post has been edited by almostthere: Jul 12 2007, 08:09 PM |
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Hope Pentium name will vanish for Nahalem.
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sorry for bursting the bubble here, apart from all the pentium and legend stuff, will the E4300 BSEL mod work for the E2140/E2160?
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heres the link to identify the l2 stepping:
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jul 12 2007, 07:57 PM) definately not L2..QUOTE(smokey @ Jul 13 2007, 09:16 AM) heres the link to identify the l2 stepping: thanks bro..http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/07/11/ene...cold/page3.html so must hunting for 'SL9Tx'.. |
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I see.. thanks for the info. I'll try that mod, only if I could get the defogger kit. Any ideas where to get it?
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MO revision? any ideas how to identify it and how is the OC potential?
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Isn't M0 going to be PWM11.1 compliant (Meaning, alamak, P35 minimum requirement)
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while mine hit 350 FSB wall
my proc is L2 according to cpu-z too |
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Have u checked processor numbering sheet from Intel website before u buy?
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so guys, the SL9Tx is a better overclocking chip? superpc's 2160 walled at 350FSB and its SLA3H...
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Yeah, since 939, its hardly to talk bout hotter intel platform. Between, I had read somewhere that the E2XXX series will have new revision. Is it releases yet in the market?
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guys, what's your E2160 idle temp on TAT (stock vcore)?... i think i hv prob bcoz my TAT showing nearly 60C on idle...
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QUOTE(pedas @ Jul 15 2007, 09:00 PM) guys, what's your E2160 idle temp on TAT (stock vcore)?... i think i hv prob bcoz my TAT showing nearly 60C on idle... 2160 Tjunction is 100C compare to other conroe Tjunction of 85Cjus decrease the recorded temperature by 15C and u get the real temperature or use SpeedFan to read, Core0 and Core1 represent the true value of temperature of ur proc |
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after i overclok , 8x300 , the voltage will go up and down 1.0 - 1.4v
then sometimes go to 6x300 , is that normal?? Added on July 16, 2007, 2:39 amand wat is the thing should aware when OC ?? temperature ? and more? This post has been edited by pcomet: Jul 16 2007, 02:39 AM |
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That is becoz of SpeedStep setting in ur bios. When oc, u should aware those things like temperature, voltage, power usage, air flow, etc..
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so is that wat i set is stable?? The temp is around 42++. So maybe i will set to 8x300 de lor . Seem got improve for gaming~
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Anyways I've jus setup an E2140 with Gigabyte P35-S3L. Was hoping for 3.2ghz, but it cant boot , probably due to the FSB wall. Settling at 3ghz now. no complains for a cheapo chip
@ TS, possible to add a list of E21X0 users in the 1st page? This post has been edited by kucingfight: Jul 17 2007, 12:49 PM |
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On cheapo can get 3GHz stable.... I am gonna cry now worgh
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Ok, i Hope this is not a duplication of another E2160 thread. The purpose of this thread is to create a Database & Discuss what ever that are related to P2D. Hope you guys can attach a screeny to proof your case. Please do not submit multiple entries, choose your preferred sreeny and post it here.
* Make this thread Clean and do not Spam, it doesn't make this thread helpful * Also, please follow the following format 1. CPU speed [ Possible FPO batch Included ] 2. Voltage @ Bios and Load voltage 3. Motherboard 4. HSF List of Users: 1. kucingfight - E2140 [SLA3H] @ 3.0ghz , LoadVolt = 1.32v, BiosVolt =1.375v, Gigabyte P35-S3L, TT BigTyphoon 2. superpc -E2160 [SLA3H] @ 3.0ghz , LoadVolt =1.39v ,Biosvolt =1.45v, Gigabyte P965-S3, TT Beetle Added on July 20, 2007, 9:23 am[ Screeny Later ] I'm using Gigabyte P35-S3L , currently it's the cheapest P35 board out there. It's a stripped down version of P35-S3, pressumely 'L' stands for Lite, which the RAID function has been removed and a smaller NB heatsink is employed. The NB is hot to touch, i was suprised myself as i thought it would only be warm. [ As to other reviews of P35 has indicated] Currently I'm @ 3.0ghz as i'm finding it's the sweet spot. No way it boots @ 3.2ghz. Probably due to the fsb wall which is around 380-400 for the E21X0 series This post has been edited by kucingfight: Jul 20 2007, 05:11 PM |
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1. E2160 SLA3H @ 3.0Ghz
2. Voltage 1.45V Bios, Load 1.39V 3. Gigabyte 965P-S3 Rev 3.3 modded northbridge fan 4. TT Beetle |
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i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help..
as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough... or maybe pci-e frequency setting not rite..try setting it ti 105mhz but also failed.. lot of thanx to somebody can help... |
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QUOTE(alanishev @ Jul 20 2007, 12:53 PM) i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help.. mm that's low. Which HSF are you on? did u try setting to 300fsb straight away? flashed to latest bios??as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough... or maybe pci-e frequency setting not rite..try setting it ti 105mhz but also failed.. lot of thanx to somebody can help... |
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QUOTE(alanishev @ Jul 20 2007, 12:53 PM) i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help.. same mobo as mineas you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough... or maybe pci-e frequency setting not rite..try setting it ti 105mhz but also failed.. lot of thanx to somebody can help... flash the bios to F10 or F11 something, i think previous version has issue with PCIE frequency overclocking |
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 17 2007, 11:28 PM) actually i tried my frens arctic freezer 7 on my e2160 n i managed 2 clock in bout 3.2ghz.did prime 95 test.stable 4 bout 5hrs dy n still going.trying 2 get a geminii n test 2 c whether my proc can go higher. |
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here's mine
1.E2160 @ 3060mhz (70% OC), 2.vcore : 1.3375 3.FPO: Q714A169 4.Biostar 965PT 5.Thermalright Ultra-120 i hit 345 FSB wall. no matter what volts i used its not stable at 345 FSB. was hoping that i would be able to get a better OC once i did the 1066 FSB mod. i went down to KL to look for a CircuitWriter pen to do the 1066 FSB mod but couldn't find the pen. wanted to try jumping to 450 FSB and see if the wall still exists, but my RAMs cant handle any higher than 410mhz.. BTW, did any E2X00 users get a VERY concaved IHS? mine is extremely concave.. will lap it once i've done the BSEL mod.. |
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actually the problem have solved when i changed my gc..but another prob came across..i got lower 3d mark score when i oc n my computer run slower when playing games..max oc at 3ghz rite now.never try to go further though..rite now still using f8 bios (no oc)..i will try to update to latest bios later..im using stock hsf oni..
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Hi all,
I am joining the family, just bought e2140 + Gigabyte p35-ds3 today. But no ideal to overclock the new system. Decided to buy e2140 after kuchingfight able to OC it to 3.0Ghz, pretty impressed. |
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izzit true tat Celeron 4** series(conroe-L) = E2140...
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QUOTE(Ah Shawn @ Jul 21 2007, 01:34 AM) actually i tried my frens arctic freezer 7 on my e2160 n i managed 2 clock in bout 3.2ghz.did prime 95 test.stable 4 bout 5hrs dy n still going.trying 2 get a geminii n test 2 c whether my proc can go higher. i did tat to my boss's rig 2... but using GA-P35-DS3... but super_PI get 19 sec only... my E6300 can get 18sec on 3.15GHz... on GA-965P-DS4... This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Jul 30 2007, 02:25 PM |
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Try using 32M instead, its difficul to differentiate for 1M cos too small.
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the 1066 FSB mod works on this proc. i tried it out and it booted at 266*9 without problems. i managed to OC to 400fsb which i couldn't get to without the mod. but the IHS of the CPU was too concave, temps were too high, 50c idle
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QUOTE(FLubber @ Aug 1 2007, 10:20 AM) the 1066 FSB mod works on this proc. i tried it out and it booted at 266*9 without problems. i managed to OC to 400fsb which i couldn't get to without the mod. but the IHS of the CPU was too concave, temps were too high, 50c idle actually whats sandpaper use for? |
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yeah, the sandpaper is to lap the IHS and get better temps. currently the temps on my E2160 @stock is 35c
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wah..new thing for me..thank you..but where i can buy that thing?anyone sell it?
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u mean the ELECOLIT 340? i got it from my friend's dad who bought it from england when he was there some time ago..you can try looking for Rear Windows Defogger Repair Kit. the ELECOLIT is harder to find
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FLubber, any updates on ur OC after BSEL mod?
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after doing the BSEL mod i can OC up to 400FSB, but due to heat issues its not stable(IHS too concave, 50c idle @3.6ghz
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2160 B2 and L2 stepping , which one better ?
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I think 2160 only has L2 stepping...
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actually this E2*** series is a dual core proc or not??beside it's cache, what's diff with E4*** series??
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 6 2007, 01:32 PM) YES it is. it's based on Conroe (E6300 and the likes) architecture BUT with stripped down stuff and all. so, bassically is E2*** series better than E4***?? sorry 4 the noob Q here, it's a long time i've beeen stuck to sock478, this is just my time to upgrade. but due to tight budget, have to get the best bang buck for my money.... E4xxx series is on Allendale architecture. edit: bcoz of my tight budget, so i have to grab cheap one but with good ocing ability proc for my gaming pleassure. i know with AMD i can get nice gaming rig, but much prefer to Intel as it's good on gaming and multiple app too... This post has been edited by rainingzero: Aug 6 2007, 05:54 PM |
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 6 2007, 05:51 PM) so, bassically is E2*** series better than E4***?? sorry 4 the noob Q here, it's a long time i've beeen stuck to sock478, this is just my time to upgrade. but due to tight budget, have to get the best bang buck for my money.... Nope, the E4xxx series is better due to the 2mb cache as opposed to the 1mb cache of the E2xxx. Anyways u cant ask more from a sub rm200+ chips, what else, they overclock well.edit: bcoz of my tight budget, so i have to grab cheap one but with good ocing ability proc for my gaming pleassure. i know with AMD i can get nice gaming rig, but much prefer to Intel as it's good on gaming and multiple app too... |
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 6 2007, 06:58 PM) Nope, the E4xxx series is better due to the 2mb cache as opposed to the 1mb cache of the E2xxx. Anyways u cant ask more from a sub rm200+ chips, what else, they overclock well. err... didn't some reviewers already prove tat having more cache has not much diff in real time performance... |
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Basically for gaming need, go for more cache capacity. From what I read,
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 6 2007, 06:22 PM) err... didn't some reviewers already prove tat having more cache has not much diff in real time performance... Speaking of performance relative, the effect is greater when 1mb vs 2mb, rather than 2mb vs 4mbThis post has been edited by kucingfight: Aug 6 2007, 06:54 PM |
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after the BSEL mod, boots up at 401 FSB, but not stable, my RAMs are holding me back. trying to get highest stable FSB and highest bootable FSB. temps are high when reaching 3.6ghz
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Seems like Intel want to replace all current stepping to G0.. Must wait until at least september to see the stepping around though.
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MMm the G0 step seems new to me (in E2xxx) , all these while, the M0 was hinted strongly to appear , replacing the L2s
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 6 2007, 06:26 PM) Basically for gaming need, go for more cache capacity. From what I read, around 3-4 frames difference in some gamesPentium-Dual core(which already reduced cache to 1MB) just on par with Athlon X2. So better go for AMD(for cheap overclocking rig). almost every 21xx can reach 3 Ghz, while not every X2 at the same range can reach am i right? and a 3ghz x2 wont beat a 3ghz conroe, IMHO QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 7 2007, 05:59 PM) speaking of actual performance during gaming, will it give major diff between my cedar mill @3.4ghz 2mb cache with e2***/E4*** series?? yes it will, and it is very noticeable even with an unoverclocked conroe vs P4 |
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AMD X2 can easily reach 3GHz if ur RAM can easily reach 1000MHz DDR2..
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got my E2140 already!!! now it's just a matter of setting it up.
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huaaarghh..me too,installed already..i didnt expect it make vista run so smooth oh..even my pentium d need OC like crazy to achieve that..
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Core2Duo Conroe architecture la my fren.
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thats why la..but now only use stock fan..only OC when i get new cpu cooler..
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what`s the default volt for e2140 ya?
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aiyo this proc ah..idle temp is ok..when full load..huiyo..can reach 90 degree oh..
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What did u meant by that? Whats ur vcore and clock speed at that time?
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haih.... Celeron 420 not OC able wif GA-945GCMX-S2... not in the mood to try on other mobo d...
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 11 2007, 12:33 AM) vcore 1.29 at 2.4ghz..whats wrong ah?is it normal?idle temp is 47..after run orthos test cpu stress..jump up to 70-80 degree..thats hot..This post has been edited by fesick: Aug 11 2007, 07:13 PM |
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hope can see ur guys result..
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I wanna as something... Planning 2 buy e2140..
Question is can i use e2140 with crucial ballistix tracer ddr2 1066mhz...? Coz the e2140 fsb is only 800 mhz.. Getting with GA-P35-DS3 also.. |
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Aug 12 2007, 06:06 PM) I wanna as something... Planning 2 buy e2140.. I don't see a reason why no.Question is can i use e2140 with crucial ballistix tracer ddr2 1066mhz...? Coz the e2140 fsb is only 800 mhz.. Getting with GA-P35-DS3 also.. U can always play with the divider, it isn't a must to run at fsb:dram ratio 1:1 |
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damn motherboard. Biostar TP35D2-A7 freakin' annoying.
it goes by 3:5 F:R ratio by default. so imagine how far can i OC la. aihhh. well, i reach 2ghz so far and you know what - i'm damn suprised that my KVR DDR2 667 can do 416mhz! yup!! that's DDR2 832 already! i haven't memtest or whatever la but seriously, if don't touch 2.6ghz then i'm really not happy la. This post has been edited by goldfries: Aug 12 2007, 07:31 PM |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 12 2007, 07:30 PM) well, i reach 2ghz so far and you know what - i'm damn suprised that my KVR DDR2 667 can do 416mhz! yup!! that's DDR2 832 already! WTH my DDR2 667 is now running at DDR2 916!! EDITED : btw due to the above RAM limitation (stupid 3:5 FSB RAM Ratio) i'm now running 2.2ghz. This post has been edited by goldfries: Aug 12 2007, 08:34 PM |
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aiya..goldfries..urs better than me..my ddr2 667 only run ddr2 812 now..4:5 divider..wooaaa..sad sad..by the way..my ram is patriot one..hehe..dunno what chipset lagi..
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oops. 3dmark06 will hang when speed too high. oh well, darn. drop down the speed to 2080mhz damn ratio is still at 3:5.
i thought easy, Intel chipset. plop in the thing will be 1:1 by default. mana tau lowest it could go is 3:5 |
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bro..whats the highers speed did u get just now?
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2200 la. can do some tests but can't run 3dmark properly.
i'm limited by that ratio. if i could do 1:1 then the testing would be better. now i feel like exchanging with P965 board. |
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mm..currently my speed at 2600mhz,can run 3dmark06 properly..if not because stock fan..might push more speed liao
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 12 2007, 08:30 PM) damn motherboard. Biostar TP35D2-A7 freakin' annoying. err.... the Mushkins Enhanced basic in my shop can do 400 easily d... also reach 500 b4... no big deal... unless it's advance module chip... but loose stability at 550 and can't do further than 1200... it goes by 3:5 F:R ratio by default. so imagine how far can i OC la. aihhh. well, i reach 2ghz so far and you know what - i'm damn suprised that my KVR DDR2 667 can do 416mhz! yup!! that's DDR2 832 already! i haven't memtest or whatever la but seriously, if don't touch 2.6ghz then i'm really not happy la. |
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 13 2007, 01:23 AM) err.... the Mushkins Enhanced basic in my shop can do 400 easily d... also reach 500 b4... no big deal... unless it's advance module chip... but loose stability at 550 and can't do further than 1200... hehe. i'm surprised to see my KVR reach that. even my DDR400 BT-D43 also don't go that far. this one, Kingston chip and Hynix chip. ahh. no need to buy DDR2 800 already. yay. |
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edit:sorry..
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~44c - 46c, both cores at 100% load using F@H.
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QUOTE(cavcite @ Aug 12 2007, 12:37 PM) Cedar Mill was way better than Conroe-L in terms of OC... but not for normal use...Cedar Mill can't win over Conroe at all... *Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series *Conroe = Core 2 Duo *Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series... |
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 13 2007, 01:43 AM) Cedar Mill was way better than Conroe-L in terms of OC... but not for normal use... mind defind the terms below??Cedar Mill can't win over Conroe at all... *Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series *Conroe = Core 2 Duo *Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series... *Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series *Conroe = Core 2 Duo *Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series... i only know there are prescott, cedar mill, allandale and conroe. dunno about conroe-L, celeron 3 and 4 series.... |
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i onli able to OC my cedar 3.0 up to 3.75g onli..more than tht kenot boot oredi..heh amateur work
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mm..i`ll try to do prime test this weekend..see how`s my temp..
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I believe u disable all the spread spectrum/EIST?
Maybe its the time to try Polygon's mod bios. If not because of the ram divider issue, you should be able to clock 2.5ghz or more with stock hsf @ stock vcore on e2140. |
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here`s mine http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228862
cant pass prime85..do i need to increase the cpu vcore? atleast this one can run prime test http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228873 This post has been edited by fesick: Aug 13 2007, 11:42 PM |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 13 2007, 02:25 AM) hehe. i'm surprised to see my KVR reach that. even my DDR400 BT-D43 also don't go that far. err... DDR800 can go further... this one, Kingston chip and Hynix chip. ahh. no need to buy DDR2 800 already. yay. Here is a cincai OC juz to show how easy it is to be more than 400MHz... Here's my another OC under testing... Now tat i done some OC and tested in a few hardwares... i notice tat cheaper performance RAMs doesn't give tat much of edge to higher level OCers... This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Aug 14 2007, 04:19 AM |
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 13 2007, 06:12 PM) I believe u disable all the spread spectrum/EIST? yeah. divider issue lor.Maybe its the time to try Polygon's mod bios. If not because of the ram divider issue, you should be able to clock 2.5ghz or more with stock hsf @ stock vcore on e2140. and last i check Polygon's mod, even though 400 / 533 mhz setting available, it doesn't cure the divider issue. QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 14 2007, 01:09 AM) err... DDR800 can go further... you don't get what i mean. |
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polygon mod?whats that?mind to share..
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i'm new here becos there's some1 suggest me to oc my e2140 with my p35 ds3 board, any link site for me as reference or guide?
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QUOTE(kengkhim @ Aug 14 2007, 04:08 PM) i'm new here becos there's some1 suggest me to oc my e2140 with my p35 ds3 board, any link site for me as reference or guide? u may check at his thread. various of ocing tips and hints u can find here:thanks http://forum.lowyat.net/OverclockersUnited u got good Mobo and proc, don't waste them by running on stock... |
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 13 2007, 11:16 PM) here`s mine http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228862 add more vcore, jus make sure the temperature is ok, up to 1.4V is ok for stock heatsink i thinkcant pass prime85..do i need to increase the cpu vcore? atleast this one can run prime test http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228873 |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 14 2007, 07:55 AM) you don't get what i mean. err... no... actually 667 can also go up to 1000... wait until i rebuild my BT rig from my old parts than i show u... already have a E2160 at hand... now it's a matter of my next HDD... n i came to realize tat either my mobo, proc or temp is bottlenecking my OC... my RAM can't seem to go higher than this at the same timing... This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Aug 15 2007, 12:47 AM |
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 15 2007, 12:24 AM) err... no... actually 667 can also go up to 1000... wait until i rebuild my BT rig from my old parts than i show u... aih you ah. i'm not here to say how far it can go la cos i'm just talking about MY RAM. n i came to realize tat either my mobo, proc or temp is bottlenecking my OC... my RAM can't seem to go higher than this at the same timing... for now i'm just happy to see mine touch DDR2 900. |
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Netburst architecture will be better than conroe if the clock speed is 90~100% more. What a shame...
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huaa..~~ddr2900 ah bro..im still stuck at 420mhz..
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Maybe ur FSB is high and ur mem stuck at 420MHz(DDR2-840). For me, my Patriot value reach DDR2-1000 @ 56618 @ 2.2v while set FSB to only 333MHz
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yo bro..u use dual channel or single?im using single only..can reach that high ah..
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I'm using dual channel, does ur single channel will oc better? Anyway the bandwidth already halved and performance will drop significantly.
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mm..the clock speed can go higher..but ram speed might drop..
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hey guys where u do get ur M0 stepping from?
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i buy at lowyat,kl..why?
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haha bro u got the latest M0 stepping! which is the younger brother of the famous G0 stepping. u see ur cpuz revision.
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how is M0 ocability compare to L2?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 15 2007, 01:42 AM) aih you ah. i'm not here to say how far it can go la cos i'm just talking about MY RAM. bro... ur RAM chip is Hynix leh... not easy to get leh... should be able to climb higher... for now i'm just happy to see mine touch DDR2 900. |
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heyya, might join u guys this starting this weekend...any tips on buying the c2d processors and what mobo to get ar? mobo budget about rm 400 or less
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 13 2007, 05:02 AM) mind defind the terms below?? Celeron 347 3GHz still selling at Low Yat... u can check out their pricelist... *Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series *Conroe = Core 2 Duo *Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series... i only know there are prescott, cedar mill, allandale and conroe. dunno about conroe-L, celeron 3 and 4 series.... Celeron 420 1.6GHz... is a replacement to Celeron 347... basically it's based on Intel Core architecture wif 1 core less and less cache... |
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I think nowadays should at least go for dual core for basic gaming and multitasking coz already tried celeron D 347 on Vista, quite annoying.
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LOL it's better to stick on topic. Remember...this is E2160 OC thread
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yea..any good steppings? btw, how to check steppings on c2d chips? 2moro im going down lowyat pickup a complete rig
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How to identify E21XX stepping
last time i looked at that page it was L2 stepping and G0 stepping. but now its M0 |
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 17 2007, 01:57 PM) I think nowadays should at least go for dual core for basic gaming and multitasking coz already tried celeron D 347 on Vista, quite annoying. are u sure...? how much RAM u squeeze in...? i got no problems wif 347... it's a great RM150 Proc for me... even outperform AMD X2 3800+ in super_PI... |
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nvm, decided to get gigabyte P35 DS3...good for oc anot this one?
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 16 2007, 11:26 PM) bro... ur RAM chip is Hynix leh... not easy to get leh... should be able to climb higher... yeah. hehe. i suspect i was hold back by the Kingston chip. Added on August 18, 2007, 11:59 amok this is freakin' stupid. it took BIOSTAR 5 days to reply, they gave me a new BIOS but heck i'm not sure whether they understood what I was complaining. I replied, I've not gotten any answer on the same day so heck. I decided not to wait. Made the effort to find a floppy disk and drive, updated the BIOS and ............... WTH, still the stupid RAM ratio. aihh. me no happy la. This post has been edited by goldfries: Aug 18 2007, 11:59 AM |
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Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R kan?oh..that one rm485 right now..
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wooot, gigabyte p35 ds3 quite good, at least compared to abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD coz i was testing both....then played with 2 units of e2140 M0 steppings, can reach fsb 375 easily at stock volts
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 18 2007, 10:28 AM) yeah. hehe. i suspect i was hold back by the Kingston chip. maybe u shud ask some bios modder to help u to mod the biosAdded on August 18, 2007, 11:59 amok this is freakin' stupid. it took BIOSTAR 5 days to reply, they gave me a new BIOS but heck i'm not sure whether they understood what I was complaining. I replied, I've not gotten any answer on the same day so heck. I decided not to wait. Made the effort to find a floppy disk and drive, updated the BIOS and ............... WTH, still the stupid RAM ratio. aihh. me no happy la. thou i m not sure where can u find them |
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that's the thing, if i need a BIOS modder to mod BIOS before i can OC, then the board sucks already k.
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 20 2007, 02:09 PM) wooot, gigabyte p35 ds3 quite good, at least compared to abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD coz i was testing both....then played with 2 units of e2140 M0 steppings, can reach fsb 375 easily at stock volts waa..fast fast..want to see ur temprature also.. |
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a little spoiler for 2moro's pics and results from todays and sundays tests...coz the tests were done at my gf's hse (i learnt how to oc from her LMAO) the pics and stuff were left there...
idle at 38c and load at 59c (orthos 2 hrs) on stock HSF @3ghz/stock volts with ambient temps at 33ch e2140, SLA93 This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Aug 21 2007, 02:57 AM |
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 19 2007, 02:55 PM) my bad... the model i saw b4 was G33M-S2... without the D... Added on August 21, 2007, 10:12 am QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 20 2007, 03:09 PM) wooot, gigabyte p35 ds3 quite good, at least compared to abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD coz i was testing both....then played with 2 units of e2140 M0 steppings, can reach fsb 375 easily at stock volts can go up to 400 wif E2160... need 1.4V though... This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Aug 21 2007, 10:12 AM |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 21 2007, 02:56 AM) a little spoiler for 2moro's pics and results from todays and sundays tests...coz the tests were done at my gf's hse (i learnt how to oc from her LMAO) the pics and stuff were left there... Cool result. Can u please test at above 400fsb? I wanna see if M0 has 400fsb wall like most E2140/60 L2 have...idle at 38c and load at 59c (orthos 2 hrs) on stock HSF @3ghz/stock volts with ambient temps at 33ch e2140, SLA93 |
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Aug 21 2007, 05:28 PM
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owch M0 is on shelves already..any kind souls able to help me hunt n post a e2160?
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using a e2160 SLA3H or something. lol forgot. cant oc higher than 3.15ghz. suspecting ram limiting me.
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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Aug 22 2007, 10:28 AM) using a e2160 SLA3H or something. lol forgot. cant oc higher than 3.15ghz. suspecting ram limiting me. ngaa..what do u want actually?1:1 ratio is the best? i say yes if ur bus speed is 500,or 600..hehehe This post has been edited by fesick: Aug 22 2007, 04:19 PM |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 22 2007, 01:48 AM) SLA93 e2140 looks strong for M0, push it higher with patriot value rams ALL at Stock Volts @davidletterboyz will do that but average wall i found out from this bunch of e2140's is about 370~390 @ STOCK VOLTS...not sure if upping voltages could help it =) QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Aug 22 2007, 10:28 AM) using a e2160 SLA3H or something. lol forgot. cant oc higher than 3.15ghz. suspecting ram limiting me. higher memspeed than FSB giv unnoticeable performance increase imo, atleast i dun c any jus stick to 1:1, more stable and more oc room limit at 3.15? same as me |
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 21 2007, 11:14 PM) Huh? I dont understand what you mean...lol Anyways...what i mean is E21x0 has either L2 or M0 stepping I still dont know if M0 is helping...like G0 for quadcore series...but then I heard M0 for E4x00 sux...some i have seen wont even reach 3GHz. |
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Aug 22 2007, 10:02 PM) Huh? I dont understand what you mean...lol probably they are limiting budget lvl proc ocability? to boost higher end marketAnyways...what i mean is E21x0 has either L2 or M0 stepping I still dont know if M0 is helping...like G0 for quadcore series...but then I heard M0 for E4x00 sux...some i have seen wont even reach 3GHz. |
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QUOTE(superpc @ Aug 22 2007, 09:31 PM) looks strong for M0, push it higher cant la...can boot up at 420x8 @ 1.4v bios, but it wont pass orthos ...=(....maybe coz im using stock cooler and casing no airflow at all...and summore psu is st400 only T__Thigher memspeed than FSB giv unnoticeable performance increase imo, atleast i dun c any jus stick to 1:1, more stable and more oc room limit at 3.15? same as me |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:56 AM) cant la...can boot up at 420x8 @ 1.4v bios, but it wont pass orthos ...=(....maybe coz im using stock cooler and casing no airflow at all...and summore psu is st400 only T__T same here... but PSU is 535W Enermax FMA II... i reach until 500x7 not stable... i think i need 1.5V vCore... which i don dare to put...i manage to get 400x7 at 1.28V... |
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bro t3chn0m4nc3r,what board r u using?
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 23 2007, 10:59 PM) my old and reliable GA-965P-DS4 rev 1.0... my GA-P35-DQ6 manage to get it stable at 1.46V but temp also quite high... now my 965 using E2160.... and my P35 using E6300... in terms of clocks both can get almost same clocks... but performance still slack a lil... |
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wokie...the long awaited pics of the setups
so it is concluded that the average m0 stepping wall is at 3ghz ![]() and that p35 chipset can do 448 fsb easily with an e2140 and it can be done up to 495 with an intel e6850. all tests was done on stock voltages and stock cooling with the exception of 1.9v for the fsb test This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Aug 24 2007, 11:55 AM |
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Aug 24 2007, 11:36 AM
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i've just published my review on the E2140.
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 24 2007, 11:32 AM) wokie...the long awaited pics of the setups woo..what the.. the fsb wall has been breached past 400. Ur definitely being hold back by the Stock hsf. There's no Speed wall @ 3ghz. SLam a good hsf and >3.2ghz is possible. Ghawwwwso it is concluded that the average m0 stepping wall is at 3ghz ![]() and that p35 chipset can do 448 fsb easily with an e2140 and it can be done up to 495 with an intel e6850. |
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 24 2007, 11:56 AM) woo..what the.. the fsb wall has been breached past 400. Ur definitely being hold back by the Stock hsf. There's no Speed wall @ 3ghz. SLam a good hsf and >3.2ghz is possible. Ghawwww but then it wont even boot windows at 400x8 wor T_T...summore i went up to 1.4v T_T....@goldfries whats the model and the bios version ur using? i can try to ask sum1 to try modding it =) or would u consider a silver conductive pen to make the fsb 1333 or 1066? =D |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 24 2007, 01:17 PM) @goldfries 1. people HAVE mod it before. it wasn't successful. options appear but can't get the ratio.whats the model and the bios version ur using? i can try to ask sum1 to try modding it =) or would u consider a silver conductive pen to make the fsb 1333 or 1066? =D 2. i have the latest BIOS from BIOSTAR itself, not even found on BIOSTAR website. did it help? NO! |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 24 2007, 01:17 PM) ram holding you back?some ram just won't work well on certain boards. hy-p5 only max out 323fsb on my p965 express!!!! where it can do ddr2-800 easily on am2 with cheapo micron D9DPN, I can do 350fsb easily. |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 24 2007, 01:29 PM) 1. people HAVE mod it before. it wasn't successful. options appear but can't get the ratio. o ok....=( sorry to hear that.. 2. i have the latest BIOS from BIOSTAR itself, not even found on BIOSTAR website. did it help? NO! QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 24 2007, 01:40 PM) ram holding you back? it is hynix fpy5, its doing on my 925mhz at my second pic, it can do ddr 900-5-5-5-15 @ 2.0v...so...i dunno where is the hold back..maybe like kuching said, its the stupid alu stock cooler >_<"some ram just won't work well on certain boards. hy-p5 only max out 323fsb on my p965 express!!!! where it can do ddr2-800 easily on am2 with cheapo micron D9DPN, I can do 350fsb easily. oh yea, where to get the conductive pen..i asked all the shops at seapark including those selling chips and resistors and also, i have requested for a quote for a custom made wc block..rm 50 only nia!...whole set calculated is about rm 200 or less with block, pump and a second or 3rd hand bmw 750cc heatercore |
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yuu..like that recommend me also la for that wc..weheheh
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![]() is this reading reliable...? it's on my GA-965P-DS4... it's using Gigabyte G-Power Lite CPU cooler... it's unexpectedly 2 cool... but i can confirm tat these are the temps of the sinks... other than temp3 which i dunno where it refers to... full system unit spec: Intel Pentiun Dual Core E2160 Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4 Corsair XMS2 1GB(512MBx2) DDR675 Gigabyte 256MB nVidia GeForce 7600GS(wif added 8cm fan) Seagate Baracuda 320GB 16MB Cap Palang 5-6 years old refurbished abd repainted casing... Enermax FMAII 535W PSU... Gigabyte DVD combo drive this is wat i built for my brother's gaming and all downloads... *this pic is taken using Real VNC in my shop so the colour a bit cacat cuz 256 color mode... cuz i forgot to do it at home... This post has been edited by t3chn0m4nc3r: Aug 26 2007, 11:42 AM |
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bro..im very sad to say this..~but..dooo contact me if u selll ur board ahh..ajajajaj
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 26 2007, 06:23 PM) dude... i got diff result when i'm using E6300 lar... juz got probs wif Celeron 420, E2140, E2160, E6550 and E6750... tested them all and all almost same temperature... and i can return to Scanart easily if needed... |
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 26 2007, 05:23 PM) bro..im very sad to say this..~but..dooo contact me if u selll ur board ahh..ajajajaj reading wrong information .. r u using xigmatek ? i have same reading wrong information since i move to xigmatek . and bro..1350000 rpm?crazy what.. but dont worry , the actual full rpm around 2.1~2.2k |
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hallo weh..im hving same problem here..hahah..using speedfan get wrong info..
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use lavalys everest works flawlessly for me =)
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but how bout the fan speed?
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works fine for all the fans with rpm sensor i plugged into the mobo =)
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How bout the M0 and G0 stepping for E2xxx? Must be improved in oc.
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whr got G0 for e2xxx wan? only M0 leh...duno, im getting 380x8 @ stock volts for my e2140 M0 and F@H 2 clients, so far no issues
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Aug 31 2007, 04:12 PM) COOL! What vcore? I can see someone is lured to the dark side. |
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brother 1.45 during load.........
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I think its better than L2. My E4300 L2 on 965P cant go beyond 3.1GHz stable no matter I adjust the voltage..
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Yay, BIOSTAR released latest BIOS for the TP35D2-A7!!!
I was about to publish my review on the board (just finished preparing pics) and a lot of harsh stuff on them then WOW this BIOS saved the day. finally 400mhz option for Allendales!!! yeah now running at 2.66ghz! |
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GA-P35-DS3 E2160 Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1066mhz Prob is i cant go beyond 335mhz or else it cant boot.... This post has been edited by Proclaimer: Sep 1 2007, 04:19 AM |
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Sep 1 2007, 11:22 AM
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w00t!!!
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237020 Added on September 1, 2007, 11:27 amw00t again!!! http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237022 3.325ghz! now for some testing. Added on September 1, 2007, 12:27 pmawww crap. just now 3dmark06 hang on CPU test. so i lowered it a little bit and now i can't get to 3.325 already. This post has been edited by goldfries: Sep 1 2007, 12:27 PM |
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Sep 1 2007, 12:32 PM
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waa....goldfries on an oc frenzy, whole night didnt sleep ka? hahahaha
btw, how much volts u pumped in to it? Added on September 1, 2007, 12:33 pm QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 1 2007, 04:19 AM) Using : drop the ram to 1:1GA-P35-DS3 E2160 Crucial Ballistix Tracer 1066mhz Prob is i cant go beyond 335mhz or else it cant boot.... off EIST, C1E This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Sep 1 2007, 12:33 PM |
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Sep 1 2007, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 1 2007, 12:32 PM) waa....goldfries on an oc frenzy, whole night didnt sleep ka? hahahaha Tried those d.. Still stuck at 335mhz.. Duno wats wrong also.. Sumore mine is mo stepping... btw, how much volts u pumped in to it? Added on September 1, 2007, 12:33 pm drop the ram to 1:1 off EIST, C1E |
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Sep 1 2007, 02:59 PM
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Sep 1 2007, 07:52 PM
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Sep 1 2007, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 1 2007, 01:54 PM) like t3chn0m4nc3r said, pump the vcore to 1.35 or 1.375 and raise the fsb slowly, then test itor just jump straight to 350mhz fsb and see if it boots or u can use clockgen and clock it from windows =) This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Sep 1 2007, 08:08 PM |
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Sep 1 2007, 09:35 PM
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u should pump it out the vcore. what hsf do use? if stock better not too high.
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Sep 1 2007, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 1 2007, 12:32 PM) waa....goldfries on an oc frenzy, whole night didnt sleep ka? hahahaha OCer since long time ago. as for how much voltage i pump? i didn't change voltage on anything. |
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Sep 1 2007, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 1 2007, 06:22 AM) w00t!!! Is the Biostar a reliable board?http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237020 Added on September 1, 2007, 11:27 amw00t again!!! http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237022 3.325ghz! now for some testing. Added on September 1, 2007, 12:27 pmawww crap. just now 3dmark06 hang on CPU test. so i lowered it a little bit and now i can't get to 3.325 already. I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios. And about the GA-P35-DS3 Does the 1:1 divider function correctly with this board? I have read that some gigabyte boards dont have this option when used with a 800 FSB CPU |
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Sep 1 2007, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(lobuni @ Sep 1 2007, 11:08 PM) Is the Biostar a reliable board? yu..this gigabyte got lot divider function..and the function actually hidden..need Ctrl+F1 ..credit to bryan ~I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios. And about the GA-P35-DS3 Does the 1:1 divider function correctly with this board? I have read that some gigabyte boards dont have this option when used with a 800 FSB CPU |
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Sep 1 2007, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(lobuni @ Sep 1 2007, 11:08 PM) I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios. so far mine is ok. |
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Sep 2 2007, 12:06 AM
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ehehe, goldfries is not going down to bangsar tonight for clubbing session, instead hes gonna continue his OC frenzy tonight right? some more it just rained, should cool the temps a few more C eh?
@lobuni well, it works just fine for me, worst comes to worst, install memset and clockgen in windows and OC from there lor |
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Sep 2 2007, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 2 2007, 12:06 AM) ehehe, goldfries is not going down to bangsar tonight for clubbing session, instead hes gonna continue his OC frenzy tonight right? some more it just rained, should cool the temps a few more C eh? me no clubber. |
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Sep 2 2007, 07:13 PM
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Sep 2 2007, 08:32 PM
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Sep 3 2007, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(lobuni @ Sep 1 2007, 11:08 PM) Is the Biostar a reliable board? I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios. QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 1 2007, 11:32 PM) OK. here's what i found out.as mentioned by others, i DID face the same thing. 400mhz option - sound screwed. check out my Review. I've updated it again. This lowered their score by far cos I'm freakin pissed. Their latest BIOS allowed 1:1 ratio for 400mhz processor which i'm very happy about and gave them perfect score but............oh well, heck it shouldn't be perfects core anyway. the board was good. it's just the BIOS issue. |
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Sep 3 2007, 07:01 PM
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![]() guys..do u think the temperature`s normal? how to solve this fan speed error? and whats the temp 3: for? This post has been edited by fesick: Sep 3 2007, 07:02 PM |
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Sep 3 2007, 07:17 PM
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fan speed error can't be solved. just ignore it.
idle 55c? wow.... that's pretty high if u ask me. |
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Sep 3 2007, 07:20 PM
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not idle..im running sumthin that time..currently idle arround 40-43c for both core..normal?
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Sep 3 2007, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 3 2007, 12:11 AM) OK. here's what i found out. Actually, I noticed that almost all Tforce have this issue, except previous S939 and S754 versions. Their AM2 and 965 mobos are physically great, but come with 95% done BIOS, as mentioned by others, i DID face the same thing. 400mhz option - sound screwed. check out my Review. I've updated it again. This lowered their score by far cos I'm freakin pissed. Their latest BIOS allowed 1:1 ratio for 400mhz processor which i'm very happy about and gave them perfect score but............oh well, heck it shouldn't be perfects core anyway. the board was good. it's just the BIOS issue. This post has been edited by davidletterboyz: Sep 3 2007, 08:11 PM |
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Sep 3 2007, 09:09 PM
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95% done BIOS is fine.
but from what i observe, the P35 BIOS was horrible. till now, even my EIST i disabled in BIOS, my multiplier still keeps changing. latest BIOS choose 400mhz on RAM config then audio won't work. and that's the 3rd BIOS, EIST still like that. sorry long time didn't use Intel setup BUT AFAIK EIST multiplier shouldn't be jumpign once in disabled EIST. or else waffor the system allow me to choose multiplier to set. |
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Sep 3 2007, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 3 2007, 09:09 PM) 95% done BIOS is fine. Maybe u should take a look at power management thingy in ur control panel (forgot where...not in winxp now). Sometimes ACPI will force enable speedstep, like notebook.but from what i observe, the P35 BIOS was horrible. till now, even my EIST i disabled in BIOS, my multiplier still keeps changing. latest BIOS choose 400mhz on RAM config then audio won't work. and that's the 3rd BIOS, EIST still like that. sorry long time didn't use Intel setup BUT AFAIK EIST multiplier shouldn't be jumpign once in disabled EIST. or else waffor the system allow me to choose multiplier to set. |
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Sep 3 2007, 10:06 PM
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go bios, disable EIST,
Enable C1E if you want to have power saving disable C1E for max speed 24/7 |
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Sep 5 2007, 01:53 PM
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i'll try later.
now finally can have audio. |
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Sep 7 2007, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 5 2007, 02:53 PM) eh... i heard it's a good thing to keep the EIST when u reduce the multiplier and increase FSB for some Biostar board due to a bug... cuz the multiplier will go straight up at full load... true ar...? |
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Sep 7 2007, 11:46 PM
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not sure about biostar mobo, but EIST limited my OC by 20mhz of the fsb lol
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Sep 8 2007, 12:14 AM
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Sep 8 2007, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 8 2007, 12:14 AM) My new Pentium Dual Core E2140.Only managed to get it at 3.120Ghz. woot, nice, whats the voltage in bios u set?Beyond that it wouldn't want to enter windows. CPU:E2140/1MB/800FSB Mobo: ASUS P5NE-SLI RAM: Promos 2x512MB DDR2 667 btw, why ur pi timing so much slower then mine @3ghz only wan? =/ |
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Sep 8 2007, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 12:24 AM) woot, nice, whats the voltage in bios u set? my voltages are stock.btw, why ur pi timing so much slower then mine @3ghz only wan? =/ Probably because there're background programs running gua. BTW,how many seconds did you got for 1M? This post has been edited by max_cjs0101: Sep 8 2007, 12:31 AM |
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Sep 8 2007, 12:49 AM
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bryanyeo87, what's your exact setting / configuration? (parts la)
cos you haven't reply me on my blog so i have to ask you here. |
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Sep 8 2007, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 8 2007, 12:49 AM) bryanyeo87, what's your exact setting / configuration? (parts la) as in how? u mean the timings and all that ar?cos you haven't reply me on my blog so i have to ask you here. @max_cjs0101 btw, this is with all those stuff running in the background and its not even 3.0ghz This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Sep 8 2007, 01:42 AM |
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Sep 8 2007, 01:29 AM
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your rig setup la. since you say you have better SUPER PI score.
i'd like to know your setup, especially your RAM timings. |
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Sep 8 2007, 01:49 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 01:16 AM) as in how? u mean the timings and all that ar? I left the timings to auto and i didnt increase the speed too.@max_cjs0101 btw, this is with all those stuff running in the background and its not even 3.0ghz |
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Sep 8 2007, 01:52 AM
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@goldfries
ouhz ok ok i get it, e2140 (Q722A025) giga p35 ds3 bios f4 2X1GB patriot value rams w/o heat spreaders 667 will post the memset timings and stuff tomorrow when i strap the pc with an improvised freezer 64 cooler and see how far i can make it fly Added on September 8, 2007, 1:54 am QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 8 2007, 01:49 AM) try tweaking the timings and see This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Sep 8 2007, 01:55 AM |
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Sep 8 2007, 11:52 AM
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Sep 8 2007, 11:58 AM
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i'm on 5-5-5-15 also.
negligible difference between your and my 20.359s. |
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Sep 8 2007, 12:18 PM
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yalor not much, go gogogo, go get the memset 3.3
btw, what is the "fsb hole" you detect on your mobo? i might want to get that mobo soon because i did something stupid to my mobo just now |
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Sep 8 2007, 12:19 PM
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sorry. what's "FSB HOLE"?
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Sep 8 2007, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 8 2007, 12:14 AM) My new Pentium Dual Core E2140.Only managed to get it at 3.120Ghz. stock vcore at 3.12ghz is great.Beyond that it wouldn't want to enter windows. CPU:E2140/1MB/800FSB Mobo: ASUS P5NE-SLI RAM: Promos 2x512MB DDR2 667 increase to 1.4v or 1.5v to give it a suicide boot at high clockspeed |
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Sep 8 2007, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 01:52 AM) @goldfries eh..last time i try update my bios kan..i get f5 bios..then after that i check back from their website..dun hve liao..weird oh..wonder where i get this f5 thing..ouhz ok ok i get it, e2140 (Q722A025) giga p35 ds3 bios f4 2X1GB patriot value rams w/o heat spreaders 667 will post the memset timings and stuff tomorrow when i strap the pc with an improvised freezer 64 cooler and see how far i can make it fly Added on September 8, 2007, 1:54 am try tweaking the timings and see |
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Sep 8 2007, 10:16 PM
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hmm...
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Sep 9 2007, 12:42 AM
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Sep 9 2007, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 02:56 PM) its the strap thinggy, some mobos from fsb390~fsb 400 can never boot, but it can boot at 401 fsb, just imagine a black hole in the fsb mhz range where nothing can go there ok. well i'm running at 400. this one need an intel sifu to explain ade LOL.... |
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Sep 9 2007, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 8 2007, 07:27 PM) eh..last time i try update my bios kan..i get f5 bios..then after that i check back from their website..dun hve liao..weird oh..wonder where i get this f5 thing.. its because F5 is not so stable, there is a F5 beta again...@goldfries, hehe ok anyway, u got the golden chip yanno |
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Sep 9 2007, 01:33 AM
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I just noticed an E2180 at PCZone pricelist.
It's a new release right? |
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Sep 9 2007, 02:04 AM
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yeap its new, it runs at 2.0ghz and it comes in M0 stepping Flavor only(at least for now)
so shawty, wanna join the e2xxx club too |
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Sep 9 2007, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 9 2007, 02:04 AM) yeap its new, it runs at 2.0ghz and it comes in M0 stepping Flavor only(at least for now) So it's not as good as those e21X0 that is on G0 steppings? Ehh wait, does e21X0 comes in G0 stepping? Sorry, my knowledge in e21X0 series are low. |
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Sep 9 2007, 02:10 AM
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shwaty, first batch would be L2. Then currently on MO Stepping.
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Sep 9 2007, 07:30 AM
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is this relevant for now?
1. CPU speed [ Possible FPO batch Included ] - 2.281ghz 2. Voltage @ Bios and Load voltage - Bios does not allow to mod the vcore 3. Motherboard - ASROCK 775 Dual-VSTA 4. HSF - Cooler Master X-Dream P775 5. Temp - 44-46c the pics below are done with fsb @ 285mhz more than that, unstable (reached 300 @ 2.66ghz dont wanna take risk so i lowered the FSB i also read somewhere that to stabilise the fsb, the PCIE also needs tweaking i dunno bout that, so i leave it alone at 100 anyways, this time its stable - finished Super PI (32M) and Orthos (CPU Stress with Gromac Core) wanna try Prime95 but Vista disallow Prime i heard (the option torture test was gray) still, i ran games and stuffs all ok wanna change gc first my 5950u suffer ultra artifacts on AERO interface... anymore advice? the fsb wall for the mobo is at most 300mhz but some people already went over the max at 329mhz (with e6600) hmm.... This post has been edited by gtoforce: Sep 9 2007, 07:34 AM |
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 9 2007, 02:10 AM) shwaty, first batch would be L2. Then currently on MO Stepping. So, which one is better?L2 or M0 |
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M0 is better, because in average, the M0 users are getting better luck ocing
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Sep 9 2007, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 9 2007, 01:29 PM) M0 is better, because in average, the M0 users are getting better luck ocing Okay, that's good. Been wondering which one should i pick between e2140, e2160 & e2180. Which one will be the best choice? [For my cousin |
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Sep 9 2007, 04:43 PM
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Is there will be G0 in E2xxx series? From official website there is no G0.
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Sep 9 2007, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 9 2007, 07:30 AM) is this relevant for now? Try to change ur mobo.Im sure you'd get better results as Asrock mobo's arent as good as Asus or Gigabyte in OC-ing.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « anymore advice? the fsb wall for the mobo is at most 300mhz but some people already went over the max at 329mhz (with e6600) hmm.... Added on September 9, 2007, 7:37 pm QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 9 2007, 04:43 PM) AFAIK there's only M0 for E21xx processors.No G0.This post has been edited by max_cjs0101: Sep 9 2007, 07:37 PM |
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Sep 9 2007, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 9 2007, 07:30 AM) anymore advice? the fsb wall for the mobo is at most 300mhz but some people already went over the max at 329mhz (with e6600) hmm.... QUOTE(sHawTY @ Sep 9 2007, 01:55 PM) Okay, that's good. depends, ur cousin mau OC anot? if he OC then try your luck at any of the 2160 or 2140, 2180 is not a good ocer( at least the current batches la)Been wondering which one should i pick between e2140, e2160 & e2180. Which one will be the best choice? [For my cousin |
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Sep 10 2007, 01:51 AM
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He may just oc for his cousin or just teach him/her.
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Sep 10 2007, 02:45 AM
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okay
i dont mind with the current fsb wall vs cpu oc limit what i dont understand is, b4 i oc, i tried looking for the intel EIST and/or C1E to disable (cuz i heard if i dont, windows vista will be really slow with the oc) but my mobo has no such options in bios how eh? |
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Sep 10 2007, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 10 2007, 02:45 AM) okay shouldnt be a problem, EIST and C1E is for power saving options only, and the only reason why you turn it off would be to help you overclock further as it conflicts (sometimes) with your OC =)...try looking under speedstep or something like that i dont mind with the current fsb wall vs cpu oc limit what i dont understand is, b4 i oc, i tried looking for the intel EIST and/or C1E to disable (cuz i heard if i dont, windows vista will be really slow with the oc) but my mobo has no such options in bios how eh? |
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Sep 10 2007, 01:32 PM
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On the other hands it helps to reduce redundancy on the Northbridge.
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Sep 10 2007, 03:20 PM
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seriously
its not there in the bios haha i think my vista ultimate lags due to that it really really lags like warcraft3 also lag |
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Sep 10 2007, 07:39 PM
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dudes
finally i formatted both my drives and reinstalled vista ultimate in my 80gb hdd now everything's ultra fast i dont know why (i think cuz the other disk b4 got win xp) anyways,i oc'ed the cpu till 2.6ghz and no shit its stable and i changed the psu from MEC to CM Extreme 430w hahahaha |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 10 2007, 07:39 PM) dudes aik, why la CM extreme 430w :Sfinally i formatted both my drives and reinstalled vista ultimate in my 80gb hdd now everything's ultra fast i dont know why (i think cuz the other disk b4 got win xp) anyways,i oc'ed the cpu till 2.6ghz and no shit its stable and i changed the psu from MEC to CM Extreme 430w hahahaha no offence but i really dislike that psu, it killed 3 pc's already u can try to increase the pagefile for windows to increase performance |
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 10 2007, 08:39 PM) dudes err... CM..? good luck... be sure to get some bomb defusing squad's suit... finally i formatted both my drives and reinstalled vista ultimate in my 80gb hdd now everything's ultra fast i dont know why (i think cuz the other disk b4 got win xp) anyways,i oc'ed the cpu till 2.6ghz and no shit its stable and i changed the psu from MEC to CM Extreme 430w hahahaha |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 11 2007, 12:39 AM) aik, why la CM extreme 430w :S no offence but i really dislike that psu, it killed 3 pc's already so unlucky? i bought that PSU. tried. hated it. sell off to friend. after a year or 2 of usage, it finally died. hehe. no computer were injured during the death, he just bought another (i think same one) to replace. my CM Realpower 450w is fine though. so far so good. |
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relax
i plan to change in next coming months after raya ke...seriously i nak pakai raptoxx ke ok kan? hahaha my dad's pc so far ok je with that psu but i heard good and bad stuffs bout it |
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Is there really case where a psu can burn whole pc?
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can burn, why cannot? because the psu shorts out, there is a sudden surge of say, 24v @ 30A going to your 12v rail so in theory ur mobo and all ur components got fried with 720w of ram power =/
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 11 2007, 01:28 AM) relax go get yourselfi plan to change in next coming months after raya ke...seriously i nak pakai raptoxx ke ok kan? hahaha my dad's pc so far ok je with that psu but i heard good and bad stuffs bout it CM Real power series CM I-green series Enermax FMA II/Noisetaker II series Acbel I-power series And other truepower series. I don't believe raptoxx is truepower. Don't gamble ur pc with a lousy PSU. |
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Looks nice but the quality is unknown. At least give another year then we can see ppl experience it.
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 8 2007, 12:14 AM) My new Pentium Dual Core E2140.Only managed to get it at 3.120Ghz. >> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=291207 <<Beyond that it wouldn't want to enter windows. CPU:E2140/1MB/800FSB Mobo: ASUS P5NE-SLI RAM: Promos 2x512MB DDR2 667 aa??ehh..confuse.. edit:hehe..confuse..just ignore this. This post has been edited by fesick: Sep 13 2007, 10:31 AM |
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Yesterday i clocked my E2160 to 3.25Ghz and running on Kingston 667 Value ram 2GB !!!! V core auto !!! 51 degree C during LOAD !!! (ORTHOS)
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Think it's possible to be true. seems like no prob getting passed the >400fsb wall. stable or not, is another thing
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what cooler are u using? and how about the ambient temps?
because if u set to auto, the vcore would be about 1.4 when u reach 3.2ghz |
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Sep 13 2007, 01:45 PM) which is the unbelievable part? KVR DDR2 667 2GB OCing is normal la. IMO if stock cooler then 51c is surely not possible. cos my E2140 with optimized air-flow case + stock heatsink, full load at 25c room also reach close to 70c. now change the cooler to Xigmatek S1283 + AC MX2, full load at 25c room also reach close to comes to around 51c. |
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eh..anyone here use 800ddr2 OC ur proc?share pls.~~
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I think it is becoz M0 stepping. If L2 stepping if reach 3GHz already need vcore increase over 1.4v
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guys help me..im stuck wif my 800ddr2 ram and still i cant get past 2.6XXghz..my target is 2.7ghz..
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Put tRP higher....e.g. 12 and see
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maybe processor can't take it?
i got to 3.2ghz without having to set anything to the RAM. before my BIOS patch, the 3:5 ratio and i ran the system at 2.2ghz with DDR2 667 running at 900 speed. |
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tick auto at memset
up ras# to cas# read delay to 6 lower Refresh cycle Time to 50 Leave Performance Level (fsb strap) for now Write to precharge delay to 23 write to read delayed (tWTR) to 20 see if that helps, if it does, then keep upping the speed till u max out the processor at ur desired 2.7ghz and then only tweak the timings |
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fesick, using latest bios?
if not, try it. maybe can solve the 1:1 fsb/dram ratio problem. |
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oh ok..i`ll try flash new bios..
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fesick, see ur ratio, 5:8 and ur mem speed show 515MHz already. Sure cannot get more than 2.6GHz lor. choose 1:1 divider.
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ouhh yeah hor. didn't realize memset there states RAM speed. yeah, set to 1:1.
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Hey guys,
![]() check out more of my E2160 OC screenshots !!! 3.0Ghz 3.25Ghz at first i manage to bump my E2160 to 3.0Ghz !!! Stable !!! but after than i tried to go 3.33Ghz (which is FSB 370 X 9)... but my RIG won't boot !!!! so i lower down to 3.25Ghz and everything works fine. i'm using Kingston value ram 667 and everything AUTO. I also never touch my Vcore... Everything AUTO !!! Before overclock, my 3Dmark 2006 shows 6800Marks, after overclock to 3.25Ghz, over 10000Marks !!! Lucky im not the only one with E2160 ! now im happy to have u guys here in forum to discuss with ! A few questions 1. My Vcore set to auto but it is around 1.4V when 3.25Ghz OC... is this ok ? Any danger? 2. My Stock FAN is running at 3100rpm, CPU temperature 51 degree C under LOAD, is this good? 3. Im using Kingston Value DDR2 667Mhz RAM 2 X 1GB, is it possible to run at 800Mhz ??? any problems? have a nice day ! This post has been edited by cscheat: Sep 14 2007, 09:53 AM |
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 14 2007, 09:39 AM) Hey guys, Aya cakap la E2160...earlier u mentioned E2140 ![]() check out more of my E2160 OC screenshots !!! 3.0Ghz 3.25Ghz at first i manage to bump my E2160 to 3.0Ghz !!! Stable !!! but after than i tried to go 3.33Ghz (which is FSB 370 X 9)... but my RIG won't boot !!!! so i lower down to 3.25Ghz and everything works fine. i'm using Kingston value ram 667 and everything AUTO. I also never touch my Vcore... Everything AUTO !!! Lucky im not the only one with E2160 ! now im happy to have u guys here in forum to discuss with ! have a nice day ! fesick, juz set to 1:1. 5-5-5-15. don play with memset juz yet. |
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guys..thanks..finally past 2.7ghz..i think i know the problem now..after i set all vcore,vdimm ++..to auto,problem solve..
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mmm...auto on p35ds3 raises vcore to quite high levels leh =/
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Hello, im using P5N-E SLI with E2160 here.
i tried to OC my E2160 to 3.25Ghz but now the problem is i cannot pass Super PI properly Super PI not responding when i try to calculate !!! im using Kingston Value Ram DDR2 667Mhz, i set my memory timing to AUTO, so is there any problem with my timings? please help !!!!! http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7430/325ghznm8.jpg THANKS! |
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 14 2007, 02:49 PM) Hello, im using P5N-E SLI with E2160 here. At that speed I think the vcore should be more than 1.4v. i tried to OC my E2160 to 3.25Ghz but now the problem is i cannot pass Super PI properly Super PI not responding when i try to calculate !!! im using Kingston Value Ram DDR2 667Mhz, i set my memory timing to AUTO, so is there any problem with my timings? please help !!!!! http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7430/325ghznm8.jpg THANKS! |
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the vcore already 1.4+ lo..the problem now is the ram timing..yu..ask tailo here..~i dunno oh..
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The review from Tomshardware shown that 3.2GHz needs 1.5v already.
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QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 15 2007, 12:13 AM) QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 15 2007, 01:41 AM) so all TAILO here, please help me !!! regarding the ram timing... im still hoping for the best |
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Usually for E2160 if 1:1 setting should be ok at 3.2(400x8) @ 44412/55515 (value ram). The ram also need at least 2.0vdimm.
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Sep 15 2007, 03:07 AM
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E2160 is multiplier 8?
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Haha, just want to let him lower down the multiplier. If his ram cant go further then (356x9) should be ok then.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 15 2007, 05:05 AM) Usually for E2160 if 1:1 setting should be ok at 3.2(400x8) @ 44412/55515 (value ram). The ram also need at least 2.0vdimm. QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 15 2007, 05:07 AM) QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 15 2007, 05:13 AM) Haha, just want to let him lower down the multiplier. If his ram cant go further then (356x9) should be ok then. Hey guys !! yesterday i changed my KVR 667 to Kingston Hyper X 800Mhz Ram !!! any recommendation for Ram timing, fsb or Ram Volts ???? |
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Hi guys,
Just got a 2140 and a Gigabyte P35 DS3L yesterday. Anyhow, the 2140 vcore is supposedly 1.35 volt is that correct? But mobo show show normal vcore hovering at 1.18.....so is that normal or what (default setting)? Do I have to manually set it to 1.35 volt? Edit: I'm not sure I'm doing this right, please comment on it. 1) I lowered the ram multiplier to 2, so that a 667 runs at 400 (read some guide that you need to reduce the speed, because it will be increased linearly with cpu frequency) 2) Lowered the CPU multiplier from 8 to 7 (read somewhere that it is more stable to do so) 3) Increase CPU Host frequency slowly from 200 Is it true that a higher FSB is better even though the end result is the same? Example: 7x350 better than 8x306? Thanks. This post has been edited by Doggystyle: Sep 16 2007, 08:19 PM |
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mm..1.18?
but i dont think it will set exactly the same as what u set bios.. cuz when u get into bios try using cpu-z or any app. to read the vcore.. like mine..i set in bios to normal..but it show 1.28 using cpu-z |
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Doggystyle
1) As you like, u want to run the ram at lower speed or OC it. 2) Who said so? go for the higher multiplier for higher clockspeed. 3) Well, I push my E2160 straight to 300fsb. lol |
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 17 2007, 12:45 AM) Doggystyle urm actually there is a misconception on the bolded part, higher fsb = higher memory bandwidth from processor to rams, thus lifting the bottleneck 1) As you like, u want to run the ram at lower speed or OC it. 2) Who said so? go for the higher multiplier for higher clockspeed. 3) Well, I push my E2160 straight to 300fsb. lol so in effect if you do a superpi bench 400x8 would be slightly slower then 457x7 in the test, and normally it stabilizes the pc (from all of my ocing ventures This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Sep 17 2007, 04:53 AM |
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 15 2007, 05:05 AM) Usually for E2160 if 1:1 setting should be ok at 3.2(400x8) @ 44412/55515 (value ram). The ram also need at least 2.0vdimm. QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 15 2007, 05:07 AM) hey guys !i am now overclocking my E2160 (stock 1.8Ghz) to 3.2Ghz and using 2 x 1Gb Kingston HyperX PC6400 (800Mhz) ram ! to get a stable overclock of fsb:mem ratio, i Underclock my memory under stock speed !!! i would like to ask 1. any problem if i underclock my memory? why ? 2. should i increase my memory voltage? how much ? All helps are apprecieted !!! im so happy i can find this thread !!! |
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 17 2007, 01:33 PM) hey guys ! Heyya!i am now overclocking my E2160 (stock 1.8Ghz) to 3.2Ghz and using 2 x 1Gb Kingston HyperX PC6400 (800Mhz) ram ! to get a stable overclock of fsb:mem ratio, i Underclock my memory under stock speed !!! i would like to ask 1. any problem if i underclock my memory? why ? 2. should i increase my memory voltage? how much ? All helps are apprecieted !!! im so happy i can find this thread !!! 1.) there is absolutely no problem what so ever if u underclock, but why do it? ur are wasting ur money no? 2.)you only increase it if u want to overclock it, and increasing voltages is to stabilize an overclock and why would you want to underclock ur rams? |
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i think he trying to say that he underclock by doing 1:1 ratio..is it?or..
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why my cpuz detected my multiplier x6 only but my bios was detected x8
proc:2140 btw what's the majority highest bus speed for stock vcore do i need to increase my ram voltage? sorry for noob question this is my 1st time oc currently i'm running 280 x 8 This post has been edited by kengkhim: Sep 18 2007, 01:36 PM |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 17 2007, 05:36 PM) Heyya! 1.) there is absolutely no problem what so ever if u underclock, but why do it? ur are wasting ur money no? 2.)you only increase it if u want to overclock it, and increasing voltages is to stabilize an overclock and why would you want to underclock ur rams? QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 17 2007, 06:03 PM) Yes fesick ! im trying to do 1:1 ratio to get the best out of my overclocking !! thanks !!! |
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QUOTE(kengkhim @ Sep 18 2007, 01:32 PM) why my cpuz detected my multiplier x6 only but my bios was detected x8 averagely it does 333x8 for e2140 minimumproc:2140 btw what's the majority highest bus speed for stock vcore do i need to increase my ram voltage? sorry for noob question this is my 1st time oc currently i'm running 280 x 8 the 6x multi is because you have the power saving feature enabled which is C1E and EIST, it drops the multi to save power and thus producing less heat when ur pc is in idle or running applications with lower processing requirements |
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yup 8x333 is a good start.
if you're going 8x400 - please monitor the temperature, it gets hot after 3ghz IMO. |
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Guys, thanks for the input.
Anyhow, my final result is this Multipler x8 FSB 300 Final Speed 2.4ghz Ram ratio I dropped to 2, (so from upping the FSB, it raise from 400 - 600) Idling at around 40c (did nothing with the stockfan except slap on some arctic5) I can't set the ram ratio at 3.33, because when I raise the FSB, and the ram breaches the 800 point, it will definitely crash. Is that normal? I'm using cheapo kingston 667. Anyhow, Im quite satisfied. When I bought my 24" benq, I was pissed cause I couldnt play 1080p movies smoothly. Tried to play the same movie at factory 1.6ghz, and still as slow as my AMD64 2ghz. Clock that baby to 2.4 and its smooth as butter. |
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imagine clocking it to 3ghz+ wouldnt that be like lubricant? LOL
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 18 2007, 06:14 PM) averagely it does 333x8 for e2140 minimum So is that necessary to turn off the C1E? i already turned off EIST.the 6x multi is because you have the power saving feature enabled which is C1E and EIST, it drops the multi to save power and thus producing less heat when ur pc is in idle or running applications with lower processing requirements |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 18 2007, 08:40 PM) Yeah.But even with 25-30% cpu usage, after an hour, it seems to idle at 47c..fan speed around 1870 rpm. Is this considered hot or just the limitation of the cheapo stockfan? Edit: I'm monitoring it through the EasyTune5 that comes with gigabyte. This post has been edited by Doggystyle: Sep 18 2007, 11:41 PM |
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@Doggystyle
dont use easytune, coz that monitors the middle of the core and not the hottest part so ur hottest part is about 52 or so...and set the fan to max pls if u intend to oc on stock cooling... use lavalys or speedfan instead of easytune =/ @kengkhim well it depends la, do u want ur processor to be full throttle 24/7 (use more power and generate more heat?) or do u want it to save some pwoer and lower the heat |
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 19 2007, 01:16 AM) @Doggystyle ic thanks so i think i'll stick with C1E enable dont use easytune, coz that monitors the middle of the core and not the hottest part so ur hottest part is about 52 or so...and set the fan to max pls if u intend to oc on stock cooling... use lavalys or speedfan instead of easytune =/ @kengkhim well it depends la, do u want ur processor to be full throttle 24/7 (use more power and generate more heat?) or do u want it to save some pwoer and lower the heat thanks for the help |
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planning to get E2160 what motherboard is suitable for it and good overclockable and not so expensive
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yes i highly recommedn p35 ds3 its under rm400 now, and its highly ocable, unless ur the extreme type of fella doing phase and cascade or LN2 then i recommend p35 dq6
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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Sep 18 2007, 11:40 PM) Yeah. haha..we same oh..currently just using 2.4ghz..but ur temp bit high than me..cuz mine on idle for both core only 45c n 42c..But even with 25-30% cpu usage, after an hour, it seems to idle at 47c..fan speed around 1870 rpm. Is this considered hot or just the limitation of the cheapo stockfan? Edit: I'm monitoring it through the EasyTune5 that comes with gigabyte. This post has been edited by fesick: Sep 19 2007, 01:20 PM |
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Sep 19 2007, 02:53 PM
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Sep 19 2007, 08:40 PM
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bryanyeo: Thanks for the tip. If I disable 'Automatic fan speed' in the bios, then by default it will run at full speed, right?
Some other question: 1) Easytune report ram volt as 2.1 (but I let all the volt as default) the bios dont seem to monitor ram volt? 2) I cant seem to be able to set the Performance to Standard if I overclock, is this is a normal behavior? (now it is set to Turbo) |
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Sep 19 2007, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Sep 19 2007, 08:40 PM) bryanyeo: Thanks for the tip. If I disable 'Automatic fan speed' in the bios, then by default it will run at full speed, right? yes it becomes full speedSome other question: 1) Easytune report ram volt as 2.1 (but I let all the volt as default) the bios dont seem to monitor ram volt? 2) I cant seem to be able to set the Performance to Standard if I overclock, is this is a normal behavior? (now it is set to Turbo) 1)what ram are you using by the way? you could try to lower the volts down manually 2) normally the sub timings get changed when u change, if you are adventurous, u can press ctrl + f1 at bios tog et the hidden settings page for ram and its sub timings |
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Sep 21 2007, 08:12 AM
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now i keep monitoring my my CPU voltage and temp, after several hours of research, i found that setting AUTO in Vcore voltage is not good (not stable)... Around 1.39V to 1.42V up & down, temp idle = 44C load = 55 C
so i try to put 1.4V as a start for my 355X9 = 3.2Ghz overclock !!! but it wont boot !!! BSOD comes out, then i try 1.405V and BINGO !!! it boots and temperature is IDLE = 38C LOAD = 45C !!! WHAT THE !!! but my main problem is MB temperature.. seems higher than CPU Temp !!!! Idle = 45 C Load = 55 C Any ideas ??? |
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Sep 21 2007, 02:04 PM
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nvidia nforce 6xxi series chipsets has been known to be mini nuclear reactors
ur temps are ok for the stock cooling, so what i can suggest is for you to get an aftermarket NB hsf, or if ur adventurous, uc an use an evercool vcre(rm45) and use zipties to strap it on although caution need to be applied if your doing that |
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Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM
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thanks for the info but I wonder how can i FIT A COOLER for my NORTHBRIDGE if i install the ThermalRight Ultra 120 ????
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Sep 21 2007, 06:51 PM
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Guys, I want to ask if e2180 is better in overclocking than e2140??
Since e2180 has 10x multiplier. Anyone else try it before? Correct me if Im wrong.. |
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Sep 21 2007, 08:39 PM
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Hi, does anyone here with Gigabyte P35 DS3L flash their BIOS to latest ver, F5?
And is it much safer to flash during BIOS boot than using the windows utility? |
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Sep 21 2007, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM) thanks for the info but I wonder how can i FIT A COOLER for my NORTHBRIDGE if i install the ThermalRight Ultra 120 ???? Your question has been answered in my post #254Use zipties and strap the vcre to your NB, it works yanno QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Sep 21 2007, 08:39 PM) Hi, does anyone here with Gigabyte P35 DS3L flash their BIOS to latest ver, F5? it is definately safer to flash using bios boot then in windows, less chance of misflashingAnd is it much safer to flash during BIOS boot than using the windows utility? |
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Sep 21 2007, 10:31 PM
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wow!! my mb temp goes higher when i raise the nb voltage !!!!!!!!!!
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Sep 21 2007, 11:22 PM
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Sep 22 2007, 12:56 AM
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bryanyeo: Thanks. Guess I will hold back on that bios flash first.
Anyhow, is the max speed of the stock fan 2000rpm? Off all the autofan setting already. Is there anyway to make it faster or thats the limitation of the cheapo fan? Edit: OC'ed to 2.66ghz, during Prime95 test, the fan rise up to 2700, but I cant seem to find any control to lock it to 2700. Temp at 50% load, is around 60-62c, but the heatsink dont really feel hot at all. So is the Speedfan accurate or am I messing up the hsf installation (lack of contact)? This post has been edited by Doggystyle: Sep 22 2007, 12:46 PM |
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Sep 23 2007, 01:36 PM
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hmmm...idk, i have mine at 58c at that speed under load...and the fan speed is about 2200~2800 max
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Sep 23 2007, 04:43 PM
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The BSEL mod enables 1066MHz FSB for many of the Core architecture processors, including E2xxx, E4xxx and even the innocent Celerons 4xx.
And this mod is good for non-overclocking boards. But take note that certain boards actually refuse to change FSB with this modded processor. And also, you can even push (maybe) to 333MHz FSB with the mod with motherboards with very limited overclocking capabilities. First thing first - if you have the patience, you can do the manual approach - make a teeny weeny wire and a teeny weeny cellotape and paste this bent U-shaped wire shorting the specific contacts as according to the overclocking instructions (go search for it). Or if you have a conductive paint (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) or if you are even brave enough to solder it (NOT RECOMMENDED), you'll cut the time of shorting the contacts. |
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Sep 23 2007, 07:07 PM
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or instead of wire, you can use aluminium foil sticked on with AS5
although, using the conductive paint is the most safest way to do it |
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Sep 23 2007, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 23 2007, 07:07 PM) or instead of wire, you can use aluminium foil sticked on with AS5 Aluminium foil? That small contacts are too tiny, and making an aluminium U-shaped contact isn't easy at all! If you have the patience, you can actually form that perfectly. I have to resort to the wire trick in the end! although, using the conductive paint is the most safest way to do it I'm still hunting for the car window defogger kit. The conductive pen/paint is darn expensive and doesn't even guarantee results - some forums have problems with these pens not working with the mod as well! The best BSEL mod will be the E4300, because of the multiplier. However, similar results can be done on E2xxx series, with much success as well. |
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Sep 23 2007, 07:20 PM
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use a razer blade to cut the foil? and to improve contact, use AS5 lor
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Oct 7 2007, 03:22 AM
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fellas.. is there a diff between 'dual core' & 'core2duo'?
Added on October 7, 2007, 3:24 amcan i change my e2160 to atleast an e6600 ? will it effect anything on my mobo? pls tell me.. cos i think i've been conned by the shop... and pls tell me the price for e2160@1.8Ghz ?? pls pls This post has been edited by amalmuahahax: Oct 7 2007, 03:26 AM |
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Oct 7 2007, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(amalmuahahax @ Oct 7 2007, 03:22 AM) fellas.. is there a diff between 'dual core' & 'core2duo'? Pentium dual core (exact spelling on the box!) and not pentium D and pentium 4, is esseitially the same as a core 2 duo e4xxx but with a 1mb cache instead of a 2mb cache.Added on October 7, 2007, 3:24 amcan i change my e2160 to atleast an e6600 ? will it effect anything on my mobo? pls tell me.. cos i think i've been conned by the shop... and pls tell me the price for e2160@1.8Ghz ?? pls pls and no you cant change it to a e6600 because e6600 has 4mb cache instead of 1mb, but you can overclock it to a e6600 speeds (and beyond). yes it will affect your mobo, your mobo will have higer fsb and thus more performance. thats assuming your mobo supports and has options for ocing. why do you think you have been conned? e2160 is about rm 300 and below at the moment |
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Oct 7 2007, 10:50 PM
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Last time i push my brand new 2180 with stock voltage & cooler to the max 2505Mhz, any further cannot boot...but last night when i try again 333x8 = 2666Mhz it boot and prime95 stable.....hooh so happy.....wonder what it take to get it to 3.0Ghz
1.my question how far your P2D can go with stock vol..? 2. what is [SLA3H], is tat the stepping of the proc..?? anyway iam with ABIT IP35-E GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 7 2007, 10:55 PM |
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Oct 7 2007, 10:59 PM
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Punish
1.stock vcore usually around 2.9ghz to 3ghz, maybe more depend on revision. 2. Yes, that's the stepping code. try fsb:dram ratio 1:1? maybe can clock higher |
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Oct 7 2007, 11:04 PM
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2.9Ghz to 3Ghz r u kidding me....??
i think mine was revision M0 according to CPUZ... so should i push it to 2.9..?? 2.0 to 2.9 stock vol....really impressive how to check whether mine was [SLA3H] or else.. 1st time intel user here.... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 7 2007, 11:08 PM |
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Oct 7 2007, 11:11 PM
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i didn't change vcore setting also can reach 3.33ghz.
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Oct 7 2007, 11:12 PM
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Oct 7 2007, 11:12 PM
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GTG Added on October 7, 2007, 11:12 pm GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 7 2007, 11:12 PM |
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Oct 7 2007, 11:14 PM
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Its really depend on chip actually.
My E2160 L2 can do 2.9ghz with stock vcore. 3.0ghz need 1.35vcore. Anything above 3ghz need hugh vcore raise |
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Oct 8 2007, 01:01 AM
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guess what....when i read kentang post...i say to my self why can my proc do the same...and i terus restart my pc change the multiply to 9 to make it 333x9 = 3Ghz and save.......what happen next.....its alive....iam now running 3.0Ghz on stock voltaga, tq goldfries for your ..
post...32M super pi PASS now lets Prime for 8 hour... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 8 2007, 01:02 AM |
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Oct 8 2007, 01:08 AM
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after that, 8x400. |
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Oct 8 2007, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Oct 7 2007, 07:23 PM) Pentium dual core (exact spelling on the box!) and not pentium D and pentium 4, is esseitially the same as a core 2 duo e4xxx but with a 1mb cache instead of a 2mb cache. hmm my mobo supports till 1333 fsb.. so i gues wont be a problem changing proc..and no you cant change it to a e6600 because e6600 has 4mb cache instead of 1mb, but you can overclock it to a e6600 speeds (and beyond). yes it will affect your mobo, your mobo will have higer fsb and thus more performance. thats assuming your mobo supports and has options for ocing. why do you think you have been conned? e2160 is about rm 300 and below at the moment the shop sold me e2160 @ rm400+..this was 3 weeks ago ..now u tell me |
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Oct 8 2007, 01:28 AM
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400? i got my 2180 for RM305 from lyp....2160 bout RM265 lidat..
GTG |
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Oct 8 2007, 01:34 AM
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Oct 8 2007, 02:17 AM
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Oct 8 2007, 02:34 AM
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which shop is it la..so at least forumers will know the bad repo and wont kena mar
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Oct 8 2007, 03:27 AM
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Oct 8 2007, 09:12 PM
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sadly prime95 not stable with 3.0ghz..
ive change it to 322 x 9 2.9ghz stable but sumehow when i prime95 the first thread and the second thread not working in the sametime......is like this, thread 2 start loop 6 but thread 1 still at loop 3....but the prime95 is still running...can i call this fenomenon unstable...should i lower the cpu clock..?? GTG |
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Oct 8 2007, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Oct 8 2007, 09:12 PM) sadly prime95 not stable with 3.0ghz.. what mobo are you using and what cooling setup? I remembered doing 3.3Mhz at 1.425v on a 650i and E2160 stock heatsink but had to supplement the cooling with one loud freaking Pabstive change it to 322 x 9 2.9ghz stable but sumehow when i prime95 the first thread and the second thread not working in the sametime......is like this, thread 2 start loop 6 but thread 1 still at loop 3....but the prime95 is still running...can i call this fenomenon unstable...should i lower the cpu clock..?? GTG |
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Oct 8 2007, 09:54 PM
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I must have the wierdest E2160 ever produced...
Spec: E2160 GeminII P35-DS3R F6 D9GKX 7900GT Strider560watt whatever result i post here is orthos 8hrs stable.. with some problem though everything stock until 2.5gig (278x9), can boot 2.6gig at 1.35v, and 1.375 orthos 8hr stable.. then straight away 3.0gig (334x9) bootable at 1.400v but need 1.500v to orthos stable 12hrs.. HOWEVER.. here's the kicker.. anything above 2.5gig i CANT POST into bios after restart for second time.. the bios will force to default by itself before i have to load my oc setting to boot at certain speed again!!! or i have to use easytune5 to oc it so i have to stay happy at 2.5gig.. CRAP.. anything above 2.5gig is orthos STABLE for at least 8hrs BUT CANNOT BOOT AFTER RESTART!! This post has been edited by baok: Oct 8 2007, 09:55 PM |
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Oct 8 2007, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(baok @ Oct 8 2007, 09:54 PM) I must have the wierdest E2160 ever produced... Sounds like BIOs issue since I encountered it on my kid bro's Abit 650i. After a beta BIOS update and manual setting, it was stable (Can you imagine unbootable even at 1066Mhz FSB for E2160?)Spec: E2160 GeminII P35-DS3R F6 D9GKX 7900GT Strider560watt whatever result i post here is orthos 8hrs stable.. with some problem though everything stock until 2.5gig (278x9), can boot 2.6gig at 1.35v, and 1.375 orthos 8hr stable.. then straight away 3.0gig (334x9) bootable at 1.400v but need 1.500v to orthos stable 12hrs.. HOWEVER.. here's the kicker.. anything above 2.5gig i CANT POST into bios after restart for second time.. the bios will force to default by itself before i have to load my oc setting to boot at certain speed again!!! or i have to use easytune5 to oc it so i have to stay happy at 2.5gig.. CRAP.. anything above 2.5gig is orthos STABLE for at least 8hrs BUT CANNOT BOOT AFTER RESTART!! |
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Oct 9 2007, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE(baok @ Oct 8 2007, 09:54 PM) I must have the wierdest E2160 ever produced... erm, had the same prob with my E2160 too. it was OCCT stable at 409*8 (3.27ghz) and also prime stable for 24 hours.but once shutdown or restart it will auto set to default as if the OC was unstable. i increased the PCI freq to 103 and solved the problem Spec: E2160 GeminII P35-DS3R F6 D9GKX 7900GT Strider560watt whatever result i post here is orthos 8hrs stable.. with some problem though everything stock until 2.5gig (278x9), can boot 2.6gig at 1.35v, and 1.375 orthos 8hr stable.. then straight away 3.0gig (334x9) bootable at 1.400v but need 1.500v to orthos stable 12hrs.. HOWEVER.. here's the kicker.. anything above 2.5gig i CANT POST into bios after restart for second time.. the bios will force to default by itself before i have to load my oc setting to boot at certain speed again!!! or i have to use easytune5 to oc it so i have to stay happy at 2.5gig.. CRAP.. anything above 2.5gig is orthos STABLE for at least 8hrs BUT CANNOT BOOT AFTER RESTART!! |
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Oct 9 2007, 01:22 PM
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hurm...no issues for me though :S
i suppose its the mobo issue or bios issue like what almostthere said |
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Oct 9 2007, 01:54 PM
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Looks like another killer cpu from Intel.
Too bad the cache was limited at 1MB but I dont think thats a problem given that most ppl nowadays just use their pc for word processing, assignment, internet and watching movies or listen to mp3. |
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Oct 9 2007, 03:53 PM
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Ok.. updates... now i get the new P35-DS3R mobo.. the old one i rma due to loose power connector
will update later Added on October 9, 2007, 4:02 pmupdate again.. orthos fail after 5 minutes This post has been edited by baok: Oct 9 2007, 04:02 PM |
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Oct 9 2007, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Oct 9 2007, 01:54 PM) Looks like another killer cpu from Intel. the 1mb cache affects the overall performance quite minimally compared to a 4mb brethren at the same speeds, just that in gaming and in certain cache dependant benchmarks, the 1mb cache does degrade performance by as little as 2%Too bad the cache was limited at 1MB but I dont think thats a problem given that most ppl nowadays just use their pc for word processing, assignment, internet and watching movies or listen to mp3. This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Oct 9 2007, 10:50 PM |
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Oct 11 2007, 03:48 PM
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yesterday i bought Teamelite 800Mhz 1GB x2 stickfrom Czone for RM299..
my friend say those rams r great cuzz can OC to 1000Mhz easily... sadly when i use it with my rig its not stable even with stock 5-5-5-15 800Mhz...1st i tot my there something wrong with my mobo so i update the bios to the latest one....but still the same, not stable... i send it back to Czone with my rig and the technician there test it and confirm it not compatible with my mobo Abit IP35-E and ask me to change other Ram...since the TeamElite no stock oreddy i choose to topup RM45 for Corsair XMS2 6400 2GB twinX kit.... anyone here using this Mobo and TeamElite having the same problem..? i feel disappointed tat the Teamelite cant work together my mobo.....what a waste... anyway my cosair XMS2 setting is 966Mhz 5-5-5-12 2.0v GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 11 2007, 03:48 PM |
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Oct 11 2007, 04:26 PM
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errr...wrong thread la bro, but anyway,
i wouldnt think its a incompatibility issue bro, sometimes the preprogrammed vdimm voltage in the ram module doesnt communicate with the mobo due to out of Jedec specs, so you just need to bump the vdimm volts up ur self |
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Oct 11 2007, 04:47 PM
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well
i was overclocking my e2140 with my 965-s dark but it wont go above 250fsb i increased the voltage (VTT, CPU and DRAM, and NB) but the dram speed can only go up to 710mhz haha i guess its my ram cannot go more (MUSHIN VALUE ENHANCED 667MHZ) that is 5-5-5-15 i tried to tighten it to 3-3-3-9 but it will only get to POST shucks really want to see my e2140 go to at least 3.0ghz now only 2.2 and no more |
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Oct 11 2007, 04:49 PM
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new E2140 user reporting in!
try to OC mine today, but stuck at 2.3Ghz only.. any tips to push more? am using giga DS3 and 1GB KVR.. |
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Oct 11 2007, 06:20 PM
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wat you proc rivision check with cpuz whether its "M0" or else....
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Oct 11 2007, 06:27 PM
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mine is M0,
but now pening oledi.. windows system properties and SP2004 shows the clock speed is 3.04GHz rite now, but CPU-Z shows 2.28GHz.. which one is true? |
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Oct 11 2007, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Oct 11 2007, 04:47 PM) well oh man, it's ghey to run it @ those speeds. the E2140 has more powahh to it i was overclocking my e2140 with my 965-s dark but it wont go above 250fsb i increased the voltage (VTT, CPU and DRAM, and NB) but the dram speed can only go up to 710mhz haha i guess its my ram cannot go more (MUSHIN VALUE ENHANCED 667MHZ) that is 5-5-5-15 i tried to tighten it to 3-3-3-9 but it will only get to POST shucks really want to see my e2140 go to at least 3.0ghz now only 2.2 and no more QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 11 2007, 04:49 PM) new E2140 user reporting in! oh another ghey case of running it so slow try to OC mine today, but stuck at 2.3Ghz only.. any tips to push more? am using giga DS3 and 1GB KVR.. |
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Oct 11 2007, 09:15 PM
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ram ratio oledi 1:1,
and I also got TT BTVX, no problem to handle high temp. any guide? me totally noob about this giga. |
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Oct 11 2007, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Oct 11 2007, 08:34 PM) oh man, it's ghey to run it @ those speeds. the E2140 has more powahh to it well dudeoh another ghey case of running it so slow seriously the voltage already upped im using 965-s dark need i adjust the features in DRAM features? cuz i heard its usually voltage issues the voltage is CPU - 1.45 DRAM - 2.0 VTT - 1.425 NB - forgot and the two SB voltage below also forgot but all red la instead of yellow hahaha if others cant boot, in my case, i can for example, i set the thing to 2.7ghz and it still boot up but stuck at POST hahaha my PSU is OCZ Powerstream 520w (tak cukup? Added on October 11, 2007, 10:58 pmthe divider already set to 1:1 (533mhz) in the first place This post has been edited by gtoforce: Oct 11 2007, 10:58 PM |
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Oct 11 2007, 11:58 PM
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use clockgen lor, shouldnt be a prob unless its with the rams la :S |
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Oct 12 2007, 12:46 AM
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erm... now my E2160 (bought from kucingfight) is stable at 3gig@1.4375v.. quite high for 3gig..
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Oct 12 2007, 12:52 AM
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DFI P-965S Infinity Dark
1) Dram Timings - This is most at auto except for the ram 5-5-5-15 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 2) Genie Bios at 2.1ghz » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 3) voltage settings » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « please comment or kutuk ahaha |
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Oct 12 2007, 01:13 AM
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Try using lower multiplier and clock with higher FSB to find the proc FSB wall first.
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Oct 12 2007, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 11 2007, 04:49 PM) new E2140 user reporting in! try to OC mine today, but stuck at 2.3Ghz only.. any tips to push more? am using giga DS3 and 1GB KVR.. QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 11 2007, 09:15 PM) ram ratio oledi 1:1, TRY TO OC WITH HIGH FSB ABOVE 300...SAY 322 X 9 = 2900...IT WORK WITH MY E2180and I also got TT BTVX, no problem to handle high temp. any guide? me totally noob about this giga. GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 12 2007, 01:58 AM |
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Oct 12 2007, 06:53 AM
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Oct 12 2007, 03:15 PM
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Oct 12 2007, 03:28 PM
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well, as i said before,
i'm noob.. hehe.. anyway, what is the safe voltage range for this proc? |
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Oct 12 2007, 03:49 PM
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Oct 12 2007, 04:07 PM
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Oct 12 2007, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 12 2007, 04:07 PM) what mobo do u use and what vcore u enter in bios.. 1.4375v perhaps? have you run orthos test for at east 8hrs?? erm.. good oc though.. just try bump the vcore a little bit until 1.5v (with good aircooling of course |
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Oct 12 2007, 09:16 PM
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mine is DS3, forgot what I set in bios, sumwhere under 1.45v.
wanna find the fsb wall first, after that only run orthos. err.. is it dangerous to set vcore at 1.5v? |
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Oct 12 2007, 11:34 PM
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depends lor, if ur using stock cooling then it is quite dangerous :S
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Oct 13 2007, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 12 2007, 09:16 PM) mine is DS3, forgot what I set in bios, sumwhere under 1.45v. get a good cooling bro wanna find the fsb wall first, after that only run orthos. err.. is it dangerous to set vcore at 1.5v? I've tried P35-DS3 and somehow the board maxed out at 485fsb err.. that with E6850 not E2xxx or E4xxx This post has been edited by baok: Oct 13 2007, 12:58 AM |
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Oct 13 2007, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(baok @ Oct 13 2007, 12:57 AM) get a good cooling bro bump the chipset volt for NB by +0.1v and see it fly I've tried P35-DS3 and somehow the board maxed out at 485fsb err.. that with E6850 not E2xxx or E4xxx |
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Oct 13 2007, 10:10 AM
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play with vcore mean your play with fire...so cool it...tats i y i still with stock voltage....still using stock cooler...dapat duit raya i buy la gemini2..
akim try oc with stock voltage to the max...try 333x9 = 3Ghz with stock voltage..stable or not..? GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 13 2007, 10:11 AM |
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Oct 13 2007, 10:40 AM
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will try today, now busy with raya liao
already got TT Big Typhoon VX, so, cooling is not a problem aiya, forgot already the stock voltage.. hehe.. |
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Oct 13 2007, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 13 2007, 10:40 AM) will try today, now busy with raya liao change the bigtyphoon fan to a more powerful fan.. either NMB, Delta or ADDA.. try to look at 0.5A power rating or above.. erm.. 0.5A power rated fan is enuff laa.. sweet spot for performance vs noise already got TT Big Typhoon VX, so, cooling is not a problem aiya, forgot already the stock voltage.. hehe.. |
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Oct 13 2007, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Punish @ Oct 13 2007, 10:10 AM) yesterday i bought Teamelite 800Mhz 1GB x2 stickfrom Czone for RM299.. glad to see that u've got ur new ram my friend say those rams r great cuzz can OC to 1000Mhz easily... sadly when i use it with my rig its not stable even with stock 5-5-5-15 800Mhz...1st i tot my there something wrong with my mobo so i update the bios to the latest one....but still the same, not stable... i send it back to Czone with my rig and the technician there test it and confirm it not compatible with my mobo Abit IP35-E and ask me to change other Ram...since the TeamElite no stock oreddy i choose to topup RM45 for Corsair XMS2 6400 2GB twinX kit.... anyone here using this Mobo and TeamElite having the same problem..? i feel disappointed tat the Teamelite cant work together my mobo.....what a waste... anyway my cosair XMS2 setting is 966Mhz 5-5-5-12 2.0v GTG 966mhz... mean ur FSB 483?? that high man! ... my e6300 FSB can only go up to 333... temp problem |
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Oct 13 2007, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(syazone @ Oct 13 2007, 12:03 PM) glad to see that u've got ur new ram selamat hari raya syazone maaf zahir batin...966mhz... mean ur FSB 483?? that high man! ... my e6300 FSB can only go up to 333... temp problem aku just luck dapat e2180 nie chip stepping best kot..itu sebab boleh oc sampai 2.9Ghz...ram tuh bukan apa dah terpaksa bli...lagipon ram dah murah...345 for XMS2 tuh kalau beli value lebih kurang jugak price dier.... nanti senang2 aku raya umah ko.....kau cuma readykan duit raya jer...kumpul duit nak bli CM Gemini2..... GTG This post has been edited by Punish: Oct 13 2007, 01:10 PM |
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Oct 14 2007, 11:35 AM
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Oct 14 2007, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 14 2007, 11:35 AM) chipset overvoltingAdded on October 14, 2007, 4:43 pmto improve ur oc go and get memset 3.4 beta1 and post that SC here, i will be damned if that is ur max OC, because i think you can oc more This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Oct 14 2007, 04:43 PM |
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Oct 15 2007, 12:43 AM
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Oct 15 2007, 12:55 AM
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quite high. dangerous or not, you have to monitor your temperature.
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Oct 15 2007, 01:00 AM
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full load @ 43C while doing orthos for 10 minutes.
I think still safe, isn't it? |
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Oct 15 2007, 01:11 AM
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Oct 15 2007, 01:18 AM
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using TT BigT VX,
with the fan spinning at 1800rpm, cannot tahan if set to full speed (2200rpm).. |
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Oct 15 2007, 01:36 AM
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wah oc capability of 2140 also par with my 2180.....wat a waste of RM70 different....Me also 2.9 Max stock vol....no plan to play with vcore cuzz no money to spent on CPU coolers...
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