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post Jun 16 2007, 03:24 PM, updated 19y ago

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hello......

Here is my initial test on Pentium Intel Pentium Core(tm)2 Duo E2160
Stock 1.8ghz OC to 3.6ghz = 100% OC



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post Jun 16 2007, 03:30 PM

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General Hardware :
Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor E2160
DFI Infinity P965 Dark
Micron D9-Gkx DDR2 800
Gigabyte 3D Galaxy WC

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wonder can it be done on air..``
btw, in bios.. u pump the vcore over 1.6v or below?
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post Jun 16 2007, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jun 16 2007, 03:35 PM)
wonder can it be done on air..``
btw, in bios.. u pump the vcore over 1.6v or below?
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shouldn't be a problem 3.6ghz on air with good heatsink
1.55vcore bios set
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post Jun 16 2007, 03:43 PM

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wahh nice clocks.. how bout media benchies??
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nice result there.. thumbup.gif
but thats in WC..i wonder how high the temperature could be if just use air cooling unsure.gif
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post Jun 16 2007, 03:56 PM

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Have u tried on ur Abit QuadGT? I just cant go further with this mobo. I wonder why ur L2 stepping can go that high without mod. unsure.gif
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getting one tomorrow with a 650i chipset mobo. Normal Transcend RAM's but wanna see how these will go
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post Jun 16 2007, 04:18 PM

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good job. but can u try on air? or u don't have air cooler?

many interested with oc on air cuz this is budget proc. budget and water cooling doesn't sound right to many lol.
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post Jun 16 2007, 04:25 PM

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wow, nice result... try set properly n run otrhos leh... the temp so low ar??? wonder if air cooled how...

raymond!!! u play till nothing to play ar??? ehh wanna sell the proc??? hahahaha... me oso wanna try... hehe... pm me a... i just bought swiftech wc kit from metalzone... err will install when i'm free...


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wow nice rsult biggrin.gif . Yah request for air cooling !!

I'm planning buy E2160/E4300 too. Anybody know, good batch for those conroe ?
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 16 2007, 03:39 PM)
shouldn't be a problem 3.6ghz on air with good heatsink
1.55vcore bios set
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Is the stock vcore for E2160 at 1.325v?

Wow, 1.55v is quite high isn't it? Would would be the recommended "highest" vcore on air? hmm.gif What's your highest core temp on load?

Can somebody do an OC on air-cooling?

Really consider getting one of these procs!!!

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post Jun 16 2007, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jun 16 2007, 03:53 PM)
nice result there.. thumbup.gif
but thats in WC..i wonder how high the temperature could be if just use air cooling  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(toughnut @ Jun 16 2007, 04:18 PM)
good job. but can u try on air? or u don't have air cooler?

many interested with oc on air cuz this is budget proc. budget and water cooling doesn't sound right to many lol.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 16 2007, 08:22 PM)
Is the stock vcore for E2160 at 1.325v?

Wow, 1.55v is quite high isn't it? Would would be the recommended "highest" vcore on air?  hmm.gif What's your highest core temp on load?

Can somebody do an OC on air-cooling?

Really consider getting one of these procs!!!
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Monday i will get a CM Gemini II to test it on air biggrin.gif
let see how!!!!
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post Jun 16 2007, 10:24 PM

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I also think its quite high. Only superPi 1M should ok but for daily use and stability @ 1.56v and air cooling is not recommended i think.
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post Jun 16 2007, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 16 2007, 03:56 PM)
Have u tried on ur Abit QuadGT? I just cant go further with this mobo. I wonder why ur  L2 stepping can go that high without mod. unsure.gif
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Abit QuadGT is 1 of the best P965 mobo but it need more MCH voltage
shouldn't be a problem to go high bro........
sadly mine sold ady

QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Jun 16 2007, 04:25 PM)
wow, nice result... try set properly n run otrhos leh... the temp so low ar??? wonder if air cooled how...

raymond!!! u play till nothing to play ar??? ehh wanna sell the proc??? hahahaha... me oso wanna try... hehe... pm me a... i just bought swiftech wc kit from metalzone... err will install when i'm free...
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u wtb ka !
my proc wts soon hehe.......... drool.gif


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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 16 2007, 10:29 PM)
u wtb ka !
my proc wts soon hehe.......... drool.gif
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how much you selling ah? wink.gif

anyway it's not Pentium Core2Duo. <=-- it's just Pentium. smile.gif it's based on Conroe but not sold under the Core2Duo name.
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Pentium will not die. The introduction of Pentium back in 1993 was a big hit anyway.
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Not just Pentium. It's "Pentium Dual-core"!
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post Jun 16 2007, 11:24 PM

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congrat bro. very nice clocking there. i wonder if you are using a higher end WC, your score will definately top Lowyat.NET record oc database
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woot~ nice result... feel like getting it and try it out... tongue.gif
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lol, value OC chips huh, with WC. still can be considered value OC chips huh...


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post Jun 17 2007, 06:19 AM

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But 1MB sure bottlenecks in many cache intensive application especially games. E6420 perform similar to E2series @ 3GHz
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 16 2007, 10:29 PM)
u wtb ka !
my proc wts soon hehe.......... drool.gif
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 16 2007, 03:56 PM)
Have u tried on ur Abit QuadGT? I just cant go further with this mobo. I wonder why ur  L2 stepping can go that high without mod. unsure.gif
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Probably for ur case, it's not the Mobo's limitation, but the E4XXX has FSB walls.

QUOTE(maput @ Jun 16 2007, 07:23 PM)
wow nice rsult  biggrin.gif . Yah request for air cooling !!

I'm planning buy E2160/E4300 too. Anybody know, good batch for those conroe ?
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Probably, 'ALL' the batches will OC consistently well


I'm waiting impatiently for my E2140 to arrive.
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From xbitlabs review E2140 overclocks lower than E2160. Dunno bout ppl here experience though.
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well,these two are good overclocker,cheap and perfect performance mah.
going to have one soon.
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post Jun 18 2007, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jun 18 2007, 09:37 AM)
Probably for ur case, it's not the Mobo's limitation, but the E4XXX has FSB walls.
Probably, 'ALL' the batches will OC consistently well
I'm waiting impatiently for my E2140 to arrive.
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many ready stocks there bro biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 18 2007, 01:17 PM)
why wait get from lyp ma.......
many ready stocks there bro biggrin.gif
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ok cut long story short, i'm getting it from bulk..so urrghh 2weeks more of waiting time
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jun 18 2007, 01:41 PM)
ok cut long story short, i'm getting it from bulk..so urrghh 2weeks more of waiting time
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next time call me i help u get it here smile.gif
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i m getting my 2160 tomorrow with a S3, hope for some great result smile.gif
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S3 can go to FSB400 with ease. U intend to OC ur proc superpc? I u will, post some results here ok.smile.gif
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for sure i wan to OC it, tats the purpose i wan to buy it laugh.gif
be patient, the shop onli can giv me the stock tomorrow tongue.gif
but i scare the cheapo northbridge on S3 too small to sustain the temperature, maybe attaching a pentium 2 fan will help biggrin.gif

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gah this E2160 I have can't budge past 900Mhz FSB. suspecting mobo since it's an Abit FP-IN9
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 18 2007, 04:33 PM)
gah this E2160 I have can't budge past 900Mhz FSB. suspecting mobo since it's an Abit FP-IN9
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urrgg 900mhz fsb? u mean 225fsb? tot it should do waayy well above that.
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So low, even Asrock can do better, check again those settings. Maybe need BIOS update or what...
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 18 2007, 04:33 PM)
gah this E2160 I have can't budge past 900Mhz FSB. suspecting mobo since it's an Abit FP-IN9
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wat is ur actual fsb now for e2160 on Abit FP-IN9?
r u using onboard gfx ?

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Maybe u may playing around with divider between RAM and CPU.
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 19 2007, 02:00 PM)
wat is ur actual fsb now for e2160 on Abit FP-IN9?
r u using onboard gfx ?
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original fsb is at 200mhz oc 2 225mhz..wah which means oni 225mhz clock speed increase ka?? cry.gif cry.gif wah wanna cry edi la if so low lidat cos i runnin on same specs...

but then is it really d mobo.cos according 2 xbit labs they managed 2 oc an e6600 fr 266mhz 2 375mhz.dats quite a lot.so it's quite strange dat d e2160 cant do d same.pls correct me kalo salah notworthy.gif

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Anyway all core processor can at least oc up to 1GHz increase if the mobo and ram is right.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 19 2007, 08:20 PM)
Anyway all core processor can at least oc up to 1GHz increase if the mobo and ram is right.
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its aint apply for those higher multiplier rite? such e66 & e67series
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 19 2007, 08:20 PM)
Anyway all core processor can at least oc up to 1GHz increase if the mobo and ram is right.
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Debatable statement. It also depends on the cooling, CPU rated speed ( a lower speed family tends to overclock more easily, ie a 1.8ghz default speed will overclock more compared to a 3.0ghz default rated speed of the same family) and also the 'batches' of the cpu, which isnt that important as most of them will overclock relatively well
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Eh, got default 3 GHz Core processor. Got only X6800 that is 2.93GHz which stock multiplier can go to 3.9GHz. Im referring to Anandtech website. Its tru u need right mobo, psu, ram, and air cooler.
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got my 2160 n 965P-S3, setting up the system now
damn i was noob enough to set up a new raid n lost all my data sweat.gif forgot it, a lesson laugh.gif
after settling all the software, OC will be done tongue.gif

some weird issue thou, i need to +1V to my ballistix in order to install windows, else blue screen will jus appear...hope it doesnt hurt
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 20 2007, 08:31 PM)
got my 2160 n 965P-S3, setting up the system now
damn i was noob enough to set up a new raid n lost all my data sweat.gif forgot it, a lesson laugh.gif
after settling all the software, OC will be done tongue.gif

some weird issue thou, i need to +1V to my ballistix in order to install windows, else blue screen will jus appear...hope it doesnt hurt
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So how goes your OC?

Errr... +1V on DDR2? 1.8v + 1 = 2.8v??? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 20 2007, 08:42 PM)
So how goes your OC?

Errr... +1V on DDR2? 1.8v + 1 = 2.8v???  shocking.gif
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havent start the OC yet, have to get my windows equipeed with essential software, so i can do my stuff while orthosing.

it's +0.1... sweat.gif


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damn i m hitting FSB wall, i think, it stuck at 355FSB, wont boot at 360
i tried lower multiplier, same
+0.2V on chipset, +0.2V on FSB voltage
ram is running 4 4 4 12 2V 1:1 FSB
any idea?
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E2160
965S3 F9(tried F8 F10 same result)
Crucial Ballistix PC5300
X1950pro
Audigy
Western 160GB RAID 0

and i found my system shut down everytime i change the MIB setting, n power on by itself back, issit normal?


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Try playing with divider.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 21 2007, 10:53 AM)
Try playing with divider.
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do u mean lower FSB, n higher mem speed?
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 20 2007, 10:55 PM)
damn i m hitting FSB wall, i think, it stuck at 355FSB, wont boot at 360
i tried lower multiplier, same
+0.2V on chipset, +0.2V on FSB voltage
ram is running 4 4 4 12 2V 1:1 FSB
any idea?
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E2160
965S3 F9(tried F8 F10 same result)
Crucial Ballistix PC5300
X1950pro
Audigy
Western 160GB RAID 0

and i found my system shut down everytime i change the MIB setting, n power on by itself back, issit normal?
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that is normal shutdown restart again
my e2160 hit fsb wall@410fsb

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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 21 2007, 12:48 PM)
do u mean lower FSB, n higher mem speed?
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It's normal for P965 chipset to power down n up after fsb manipulation in bios. This is "Global Reset" as it sets the proper NB strap speed

What cooling are u on? The NB is pretty toasty, perhaps adding a fan to it will help cool it down. u shouldnt need so much Vmch to hit 400fsb, +0.1v will do. And yes, agree with rlhc17, the E2XXX has fsb walls around 400fsb.
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i m using thermaltake beetle, load around 63C @ 3.1ghz 1.45V
i already add a fan on the NB, n i touched it, it is onli warm
0.1V n 0.2V tried, same
tried 1 stick ram instead of 2, tried remove audigy, tried remove harddisk, and disable everything in bios(those self-adjust thingy)


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Guess ur not a newbie in OCing. I'm running out of possibilities. Whack up the Vcore higher? cant think of other possibilities.. 3.2ghz still something 2 b proud off
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i will try to up more vcore
if still cant, then i will try it on my brother DS3
i m expecting 3.4ghz from tis tongue.gif
but still, it is a lot faster than my previous processor, i can sense the difference


Added on June 21, 2007, 4:31 pmup vcore doesnt help, i guess i got a bad batch of 2160 vmad.gif

i notice some weird thing, now i m running 1.45V, if i up the vcore to 1.46 or somthing higher, it wont boot.

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here's a screenie of a customer's E2160's Super_PI... next customer only i OC cuz this 1 have to rush it out... tak sempat OC... tongue.gif

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all in stock... PSU is 400W Std rated... wif 80GB SATA HDD... so can say TS did an excellent job...

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superpc: try put vdimm 2.3v smile.gif
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@superpc, mayb try some bios mod or something. U can try reading around S3 tips and workarounds. Plenty of it. It will help a lot. Cant help much here as i haven got any experience with it
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anybody sell this proc for bulk price??might get my 2nd budget rig... hmm.gif



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QUOTE(Frankiec91 @ Jun 21 2007, 06:13 PM)
superpc: try put vdimm 2.3v smile.gif
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have to wait my ram cooler to arrive first, the crucial is super damn hot, scare it will be spoilt.


QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jun 21 2007, 06:17 PM)
@superpc, mayb try some bios mod or something. U can try reading around S3 tips and workarounds. Plenty of it. It will help a lot. Cant help much here as i haven got any experience with it
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okay~but there is no modded bios out there for S3 i think, all for DS3

thanks for help icon_rolleyes.gif

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Flashed the FP-IP9's BIOS to BETA 14 and guess what? It blinkin works, altho funnily, only at FSB's of 333Mhz and beyond with setting Unlinked. Otherwise tak boleh boot. Currently at stock volts 3.0Ghz priming away. Stock aluminium heatsink in use till can find good one second hand (Temps 73C according to sensor, which I don't trust). Max with the assistance of a Japan Servo 120mm blowing at the mobo was at 3.28Ghz 1.45v VCORE (Max temp 81C...ZOMFGBBQOHSHEET). Can do more I think. Guess either mobo limitation or RAM limitation

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 21 2007, 07:54 PM)
Flashed the FP-IP9's BIOS to BETA 14 and guess what? It blinkin works, altho funnily, only at FSB's of 333Mhz and beyond with setting Unlinked. Otherwise tak boleh boot. Currently at stock volts 3.0Ghz priming away. Stock aluminium heatsink in use till can find good one second hand (Temps 73C according to sensor, which I don't trust). Max with the assistance of a Japan Servo 120mm blowing at the mobo was at 3.28Ghz 1.45v VCORE (Max temp 81C...ZOMFGBBQOHSHEET). Can do more I think. Guess either mobo limitation or RAM limitation
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speedfan read the correct voltage
other program take the tjunction of intel as 100C, which is 85C in truth
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 21 2007, 08:02 PM)
speedfan read the correct voltage
other program take the tjunction of intel as 100C, which is 85C in truth
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yeah I think so but speedfan seems a bit cacat in detecting voltages. So think I'll try gauging using Core Temp instead.
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 21 2007, 01:43 PM)
i will try to up more vcore
if still cant, then i will try it on my brother DS3
i m expecting 3.4ghz from tis tongue.gif
but still, it is a lot faster than my previous processor, i can sense the difference


Added on June 21, 2007, 4:31 pmup vcore doesnt help, i guess i got a bad batch of 2160 vmad.gif

i notice some weird thing, now i m running 1.45V, if i up the vcore to 1.46 or somthing higher, it wont boot.
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 21 2007, 08:27 PM)
yeah I think so but speedfan seems a bit cacat in detecting voltages. So think I'll try gauging using Core Temp instead.
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sorry f0r askin' ya..
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Added on June 21, 2007, 9:22 pmanother thing i suspect is my ram, since i saw a lot of article online tat gigabyte dun like D9.

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QUOTE(Frankiec91 @ Jun 21 2007, 06:13 PM)
superpc: try put vdimm 2.3v smile.gif
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Added on June 21, 2007, 10:42 pmBy the way superpc, dont you think ur beetle is the culprit for not oc any higher? Or maybe not, try to increase Vmch, Vfsb, and Vcore, L2 needs high Vcore, If u want to go 3.3GHz and higher maybe need 1.5v and above.

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 21 2007, 10:39 PM)
Dont try to kill ur ram nod.gif


Added on June 21, 2007, 10:42 pmBy the way superpc, dont you think ur beetle is the culprit for not oc any higher? Or maybe not, try to increase Vmch, Vfsb, and Vcore, L2 needs high Vcore, If u want to go 3.3GHz and higher maybe need 1.5v and above.
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load at 63C high? even my brother watercooling with his 4300 also reach nearly 60C
dunno, maybe i will assemble the thermaltake bigwater left aside weekend

vmch, vfsb, vcore all increased, even tried 0.3 on mch
1.5V vcore doesnt help anything, i tried...

it is jus plain...weird...

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Maybe it is ur processor limit at 1.5V. How bout try WC and increase to 1.6V and try to push summore.

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Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~
Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq

If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR?

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 21 2007, 11:50 PM)
Maybe it is ur processor limit at 1.5V. How bout try WC and increase to 1.6V and try to push summore.
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I just bought :

C2D 2160
Gigabyte GA-p35-DS3
Galaxy 8600GT (OC)
2 x 1GB Corsair Value Ram
Enermax 460W
1 160GB HDD
1 Imation DVD writer
Audigy 2zs

Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~
Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq

If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR?
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performance ram giv u more bandwidth, and better overclockability, if u r going to run it at default speed, it doesnt make much difference
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QUOTE(pcomet @ Jun 22 2007, 12:16 AM)
I just bought :

C2D 2160
Gigabyte GA-p35-DS3
Galaxy 8600GT (OC)
2 x 1GB Corsair Value Ram
Enermax 460W
1 160GB HDD
1 Imation DVD writer
Audigy 2zs

Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~
Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq

If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR?
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That is possible. Changing ur ram wont change that much. If u set for around 2.8GHz on stock air coolong it should be ok.
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QUOTE(pcomet @ Jun 22 2007, 01:16 AM)
I just bought :

C2D 2160
Gigabyte GA-p35-DS3
Galaxy 8600GT (OC)
2 x 1GB Corsair Value Ram
Enermax 460W
1 160GB HDD
1 Imation DVD writer
Audigy 2zs

Possible oc the proc and the GPU for more better performance?Just go for some safe OC then should be ok , coz dun have bigger cooler~
Let me know how to oc it , pm me or post here . tqtq

If later i change my ram to 2gb xms 800 corsair ram will it betteR?
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can see ur Corsair use wat chip...? new Corsair got lotsa negative comments on OC'ing... but i know i reached 266x9 and RAM DDR800 wif 2 pcs Mushkin 512MB DDR667 RAM... for DDR800 better to get Team or Crucial... cuz Corsair only give Micron chip for DDR1066 and above... sweat.gif
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lol all ppl take 2160 as core 2 duo >.<
it is pentium actually

pity, pentium has been 4gotten since core 2 smile.gif

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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 22 2007, 02:25 PM)
lol all ppl take 2160 as core 2 duo >.<
it is pentium actually

pity, pentium has been 4gotten since core 2 smile.gif
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jun 22 2007, 01:25 PM)
lol all ppl take 2160 as core 2 duo >.<
it is pentium actually

pity, pentium has been 4gotten since core 2 smile.gif
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technically, it's just branding to be honest. E2160 still utilises Conroe cores so it has every right to be called a C2D. Pentium is an old name which Intel would wanna leave behind ever since they realised their extended pipelining disaster of Pentium 4
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jun 22 2007, 05:39 PM)
technically, it's just branding to be honest. E2160 still utilises Conroe cores so it has every right to be called a C2D. Pentium is an old name which Intel would wanna leave behind ever since they realised their extended pipelining disaster of Pentium 4
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i reli wonder wat is their intention for naming the conroe "Pentium"
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nice processoer with good cooling here...

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i liked his temp n processor that is like another 100% increase!! n only 40C wtf i think wif peltier should b perfect
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wow i jus changed the thermal compound to MX-1 and the temperature drop like 10C...now load around 53C onli @1.45V 3.15Ghz
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what is the Super PI 1M value at stock for this proc ?
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Pentium is legendary name anyway. Regardless of what architecture they implement.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 24 2007, 12:39 AM)
Pentium is legendary name anyway. Regardless of what architecture they implement.
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I wonder will Pentium name survive until Nahelem architecture...
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i still remember my pentium 75 lappie... hahaha...
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QUOTE(HaHaNoCluE @ Jun 30 2007, 08:49 PM)
i still remember my pentium 75 lappie... hahaha...
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 2 2007, 11:59 AM)
Wow, thats back in 1996. Do u still have it? It nice sometimes playing with good old software. thumbup.gif
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haha the GOTO command ah???

neh i gave it to a fren long time back...

but i still have my pentium 100 n pentium 233mmx proc with me... hahaha.. antique... (i lost my older 80386 n 80486 procs)...

i got a fren juz bought e2160 last few days, i still haven't got time to have a look at it, but he claims that his proc can't oc much... it's lower than 330fsb... using gigabyte p35-ds3... with gigabyte 550w psu...
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i think new batch core 2 doesnt OC tat well, my brother 4300 OC around the same as me.
wonder why

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QUOTE(superpc @ Jul 4 2007, 04:57 PM)
i think new batch core 2 doesnt OC tat well, my brother 4300 OC around the same as me.
wonder why
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Whats the highest u get for ur e4300 @ what vcore? Is it the same result with ur e2160?
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 4 2007, 08:00 PM)
Whats the highest u get for ur e4300 @ what vcore? Is it the same result with ur e2160?
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3.2-3.3 somthing, 1.5V, on watercooling
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can somebody tell me why the vcore shown on cpuz are slightly different with my setting on bios?
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Upon full load, you will expect some voltage droop.
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jul 4 2007, 08:32 PM)
3.2-3.3 somthing, 1.5V, on watercooling
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I managed 3.3 at 1.425v but since using stock air cooling, decided not to normally run it at such speeds. Dropped it down to 3.0Ghz stock voltage
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my 2160 need 1.4V for 3.0ghz, running 24/7 folding
reli not a good overclock chip on my hand mad.gif
if i try to shot it and get it to be fried, i wonder if i can claim the warranty and get a new chip tongue.gif
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another run.... 100% on air...

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QUOTE(pedas @ Jul 10 2007, 08:15 PM)
another run.... 100% on air...

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freaking nice OC, looking forward for ur proc to prime stable
damn nice chip in ur hand, i m jealous brows.gif
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QUOTE(pedas @ Jul 10 2007, 08:15 PM)
another run.... 100% on air...

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very nice result rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jul 9 2007, 08:08 PM)
my 2160 need 1.4V for 3.0ghz, running 24/7 folding
reli not a good overclock chip on my hand mad.gif
if i try to shot it and get it to be fried, i wonder if i can claim the warranty and get a new chip tongue.gif
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No wonder bcoz of L2 stepping. It should not be blamed. 3GHz for 1.4V ok edi.
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Hi all. Anyone tried doing the BSEL mod on this processor? Will the BSEL mod work at all? I'm planning to get one of these soon thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 11 2007, 04:42 PM)
No wonder bcoz of L2 stepping. It should not be blamed. 3GHz for 1.4V ok edi.
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how to know L2 stepping.. written on the box?
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how to know L2 stepping.. written on the box?
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c the box sticker product code...
c the last 5 digit...u should c a code "....................SL9T."
the "SL9T" identifies L2 stepping...

i jz read it few hrs ago...dunno i remember it correctly or not...
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ohho.. but i heard some mobo without updated bios will not boot..
in that case.. difficult also if no spare proc...
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mine is SLA3H

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Pentium is Pentium, Core is Core. That is a Pentium Dual Core

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QUOTE(samuel_lai @ Jul 12 2007, 07:59 PM)
Pentium is Pentium, Core is Core. That is a Pentium Dual Core
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Not anymore...sigh some just don't bother keep an update as to how Intel market it's porcessors

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...um-e2160_2.html

Architecturally it's still a Core processor but cut back. Think modern day celeron

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QUOTE(samuel_lai @ Jul 12 2007, 07:59 PM)
Pentium is Pentium, Core is Core. That is a Pentium Dual Core
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it is a core named pentium rolleyes.gif
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Hope Pentium name will vanish for Nahalem.
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sorry for bursting the bubble here, apart from all the pentium and legend stuff, will the E4300 BSEL mod work for the E2140/E2160?
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heres the link to identify the l2 stepping:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/07/11/ene...cold/page3.html
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QUOTE(superpc @ Jul 12 2007, 07:57 PM)
mine is SLA3H
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definately not L2..

QUOTE(smokey @ Jul 13 2007, 09:16 AM)
heres the link to identify the l2 stepping:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/07/11/ene...cold/page3.html
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thanks bro..
so must hunting for 'SL9Tx'..
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sorry for bursting the bubble here, apart from all the pentium and legend stuff, will the E4300 BSEL mod work for the E2140/E2160?
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do u mean the FSB mod?
never tried, but it probably work since all the core proc is the same, onli with cache cut
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I see.. thanks for the info. I'll try that mod, only if I could get the defogger kit. Any ideas where to get it?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 13 2007, 09:23 AM)
definately not L2..
thanks bro..
so must hunting for 'SL9Tx'..
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AFAIK all E21X0 are L2s. A newer MO revision comin soon
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Isn't M0 going to be PWM11.1 compliant (Meaning, alamak, P35 minimum requirement)
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I see.. thanks for the info. I'll try that mod, only if I could get the defogger kit. Any ideas where to get it?
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Isn't M0 going to be PWM11.1 compliant (Meaning, alamak, P35 minimum requirement)
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AFAIK all E21X0 are L2s. A newer MO revision comin soon
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then superpc..
can comfirm wether L2 or not.. seems other than 'SL9Tx' need more voltage to OC...
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 13 2007, 03:04 PM)
then superpc..
can comfirm wether L2 or not.. seems other than 'SL9Tx' need more voltage to OC...
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while mine hit 350 FSB wall mad.gif
my proc is L2 according to cpu-z too

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Have u checked processor numbering sheet from Intel website before u buy?
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so guys, the SL9Tx is a better overclocking chip? superpc's 2160 walled at 350FSB and its SLA3H...
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 13 2007, 07:11 PM)
Have u checked processor numbering sheet from Intel website before u buy?
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tat time 2160 is quite new and i hav absolutely no idea on conroe stepping since i've been playing with AMD for years
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Yeah, since 939, its hardly to talk bout hotter intel platform. Between, I had read somewhere that the E2XXX series will have new revision. Is it releases yet in the market?
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guys, what's your E2160 idle temp on TAT (stock vcore)?... i think i hv prob bcoz my TAT showing nearly 60C on idle...
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QUOTE(pedas @ Jul 15 2007, 09:00 PM)
guys, what's your E2160 idle temp on TAT (stock vcore)?... i think i hv prob bcoz my TAT showing nearly 60C on idle...
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2160 Tjunction is 100C compare to other conroe Tjunction of 85C
jus decrease the recorded temperature by 15C and u get the real temperature
or use SpeedFan to read, Core0 and Core1 represent the true value of temperature of ur proc
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after i overclok , 8x300 , the voltage will go up and down 1.0 - 1.4v
then sometimes go to 6x300 , is that normal??


Added on July 16, 2007, 2:39 amand wat is the thing should aware when OC ?? temperature ? and more?

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That is becoz of SpeedStep setting in ur bios. When oc, u should aware those things like temperature, voltage, power usage, air flow, etc..
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so is that wat i set is stable?? The temp is around 42++. So maybe i will set to 8x300 de lor . Seem got improve for gaming~
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Anyways I've jus setup an E2140 with Gigabyte P35-S3L. Was hoping for 3.2ghz, but it cant boot , probably due to the FSB wall. Settling at 3ghz now. no complains for a cheapo chip

@ TS, possible to add a list of E21X0 users in the 1st page?

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On cheapo can get 3GHz stable.... I am gonna cry now worgh cry.gif
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Ok, i Hope this is not a duplication of another E2160 thread. The purpose of this thread is to create a Database & Discuss what ever that are related to P2D. Hope you guys can attach a screeny to proof your case. Please do not submit multiple entries, choose your preferred sreeny and post it here.

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1. CPU speed [ Possible FPO batch Included ]
2. Voltage @ Bios and Load voltage
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1. kucingfight - E2140 [SLA3H] @ 3.0ghz , LoadVolt = 1.32v, BiosVolt =1.375v, Gigabyte P35-S3L, TT BigTyphoon
2. superpc -E2160 [SLA3H] @ 3.0ghz , LoadVolt =1.39v ,Biosvolt =1.45v, Gigabyte P965-S3, TT Beetle


Added on July 20, 2007, 9:23 am[ Screeny Later ]

I'm using Gigabyte P35-S3L , currently it's the cheapest P35 board out there. It's a stripped down version of P35-S3, pressumely 'L' stands for Lite, which the RAID function has been removed and a smaller NB heatsink is employed. The NB is hot to touch, i was suprised myself as i thought it would only be warm. [ As to other reviews of P35 has indicated]

Currently I'm @ 3.0ghz as i'm finding it's the sweet spot. No way it boots @ 3.2ghz. Probably due to the fsb wall which is around 380-400 for the E21X0 series

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1. E2160 SLA3H @ 3.0Ghz
2. Voltage 1.45V Bios, Load 1.39V
3. Gigabyte 965P-S3 Rev 3.3 modded northbridge fan
4. TT Beetle

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i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help..
as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough...
or maybe pci-e frequency setting not rite..try setting it ti 105mhz but also failed..

lot of thanx to somebody can help...

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QUOTE(alanishev @ Jul 20 2007, 12:53 PM)
i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help..
as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough...
or maybe pci-e frequency setting not rite..try setting it ti 105mhz but also failed..

lot of thanx to somebody can help...
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QUOTE(alanishev @ Jul 20 2007, 12:53 PM)
i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help..
as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough...
or maybe pci-e frequency setting not rite..try setting it ti 105mhz but also failed..

lot of thanx to somebody can help...
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same mobo as mine
flash the bios to F10 or F11 something, i think previous version has issue with PCIE frequency overclocking

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On cheapo can get 3GHz stable.... I am gonna cry now worgh cry.gif
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actually i tried my frens arctic freezer 7 on my e2160 n i managed 2 clock in bout 3.2ghz.did prime 95 test.stable 4 bout 5hrs dy n still going.trying 2 get a geminii n test 2 c whether my proc can go higher.
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1.E2160 @ 3060mhz (70% OC),
2.vcore : 1.3375
3.FPO: Q714A169
4.Biostar 965PT
5.Thermalright Ultra-120


i hit 345 FSB wall. no matter what volts i used its not stable at 345 FSB. was hoping that i would be able to get a better OC once i did the 1066 FSB mod. i went down to KL to look for a CircuitWriter pen to do the 1066 FSB mod but couldn't find the pen. wanted to try jumping to 450 FSB and see if the wall still exists, but my RAMs cant handle any higher than 410mhz.. BTW, did any E2X00 users get a VERY concaved IHS? mine is extremely concave.. will lap it once i've done the BSEL mod..
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1. E2160 SLA3H @ 2.7Ghz
2. Voltage 1.325V Bios, Load 1.31V
3. Biostar P965 Express
4. Intel Stock Cooler


Will try update with better OC in the near future.


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actually the problem have solved when i changed my gc..but another prob came across..i got lower 3d mark score when i oc n my computer run slower when playing games..max oc at 3ghz rite now.never try to go further though..rite now still using f8 bios (no oc)..i will try to update to latest bios later..im using stock hsf oni..

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Hi all,

I am joining the family, just bought e2140 + Gigabyte p35-ds3 today.

But no ideal to overclock the new system.

Decided to buy e2140 after kuchingfight able to OC it to 3.0Ghz, pretty

impressed.
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izzit true tat Celeron 4** series(conroe-L) = E2140... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 29 2007, 07:07 PM)
izzit true tat Celeron 4** series(conroe-L) = E2140... hmm.gif
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Yeap, with 1 core less
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jul 30 2007, 10:33 AM)
Yeap, with 1 core less
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jul 30 2007, 01:29 PM)
u sure it's single core...? i only noticed half the cache gone... unsure.gif
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celeron 400 series is single core. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Ah Shawn @ Jul 21 2007, 01:34 AM)
actually i tried my frens arctic freezer 7 on my e2160 n i managed 2 clock in bout 3.2ghz.did prime 95 test.stable 4 bout 5hrs dy n still going.trying 2 get a geminii n test 2 c whether my proc can go higher.
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i did tat to my boss's rig 2... but using GA-P35-DS3... but super_PI get 19 sec only... my E6300 can get 18sec on 3.15GHz... on GA-965P-DS4... blink.gif

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Try using 32M instead, its difficul to differentiate for 1M cos too small.
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the 1066 FSB mod works on this proc. i tried it out and it booted at 266*9 without problems. i managed to OC to 400fsb which i couldn't get to without the mod. but the IHS of the CPU was too concave, temps were too high, 50c idle blink.gif will start lapping the IHS once i get the sandpapers from bombman thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(FLubber @ Aug 1 2007, 10:20 AM)
the 1066 FSB mod works on this proc. i tried it out and it booted at 266*9 without problems. i managed to OC to 400fsb which i couldn't get to without the mod. but the IHS of the CPU was too concave, temps were too high, 50c idle blink.gif will start lapping the IHS once i get the sandpapers from bombman thumbup.gif
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actually whats sandpaper use for?
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actually whats sandpaper use for?
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to smoothen the surface of the IHS
warranty will be voided though
temperature diff shud be around 5 Celsius, tried on a 4300

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yeah, the sandpaper is to lap the IHS and get better temps. currently the temps on my E2160 @stock is 35c shocking.gif
the IHS is so concaved that there's barely any contact where the 2 cores are...

i used ELECOLIT 340 (conductive paint) to do the FSB mod.
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QUOTE(Hungry_Wolf @ Jul 30 2007, 03:15 PM)
celeron 400 series is single core.  brows.gif
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woo... will try it out as soon as i get my other components... brows.gif
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u mean the ELECOLIT 340? i got it from my friend's dad who bought it from england when he was there some time ago..you can try looking for Rear Windows Defogger Repair Kit. the ELECOLIT is harder to find sad.gif
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FLubber, any updates on ur OC after BSEL mod?
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after doing the BSEL mod i can OC up to 400FSB, but due to heat issues its not stable(IHS too concave, 50c idle @3.6ghz rclxub.gif) . i'll lap the CPU this weekend and try getting a stable OC.

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2160 B2 and L2 stepping , which one better ?
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I think 2160 only has L2 stepping... sweat.gif
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actually this E2*** series is a dual core proc or not??beside it's cache, what's diff with E4*** series??
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actually this E2*** series is a dual core proc or not??beside it's cache, what's diff with E4*** series??
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E4xxx series is on Allendale architecture.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 6 2007, 01:32 PM)
YES it is. it's based on Conroe (E6300 and the likes) architecture BUT with stripped down stuff and all.

E4xxx series is on Allendale architecture.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 6 2007, 01:32 PM)
YES it is. it's based on Conroe (E6300 and the likes) architecture BUT with stripped down stuff and all.

E4xxx series is on Allendale architecture.
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so, bassically is E2*** series better than E4***?? sorry 4 the noob Q here, it's a long time i've beeen stuck to sock478, this is just my time to upgrade. but due to tight budget, have to get the best bang buck for my money.... thumbup.gif

edit: bcoz of my tight budget, so i have to grab cheap one but with good ocing ability proc for my gaming pleassure. i know with AMD i can get nice gaming rig, but much prefer to Intel as it's good on gaming and multiple app too...

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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 6 2007, 05:51 PM)
so, bassically is E2*** series better than E4***?? sorry 4 the noob Q here, it's a long time i've beeen stuck to sock478, this is just my time to upgrade. but due to tight budget, have to get the best bang buck for my money.... thumbup.gif

edit: bcoz of my tight budget, so i have to grab cheap one but with good ocing ability proc for my gaming pleassure. i know with AMD i can get nice gaming rig, but much prefer to Intel as it's good on gaming and multiple app too...
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Nope, the E4xxx series is better due to the 2mb cache as opposed to the 1mb cache of the E2xxx. Anyways u cant ask more from a sub rm200+ chips, what else, they overclock well.
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 6 2007, 06:58 PM)
Nope, the E4xxx series is better due to the 2mb cache as opposed to the 1mb cache of the E2xxx. Anyways u cant ask more from a sub rm200+ chips, what else, they overclock well.
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err... didn't some reviewers already prove tat having more cache has not much diff in real time performance... hmm.gif
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Basically for gaming need, go for more cache capacity. From what I read,
Pentium-Dual core(which already reduced cache to 1MB) just on par with Athlon X2. So better go for AMD(for cheap overclocking rig).
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 6 2007, 06:22 PM)
err... didn't some reviewers already prove tat having more cache has not much diff in real time performance... hmm.gif
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Speaking of performance relative, the effect is greater when 1mb vs 2mb, rather than 2mb vs 4mb

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after the BSEL mod, boots up at 401 FSB, but not stable, my RAMs are holding me back. trying to get highest stable FSB and highest bootable FSB. temps are high when reaching 3.6ghz cry.gif
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wonder how the new G0 stepping on these chips will perform drool.gif E2160 G0 stepping

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Seems like Intel want to replace all current stepping to G0.. Must wait until at least september to see the stepping around though.
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MMm the G0 step seems new to me (in E2xxx) , all these while, the M0 was hinted strongly to appear , replacing the L2s
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 6 2007, 06:52 PM)
Speaking of performance relative, the effect is greater when 1mb vs 2mb, rather than 2mb vs 4mb
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speaking of actual performance during gaming, will it give major diff between my cedar mill @3.4ghz 2mb cache with e2***/E4*** series??
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 6 2007, 06:26 PM)
Basically for gaming need, go for more cache capacity. From what I read,
Pentium-Dual core(which already reduced cache to 1MB) just on par with Athlon X2. So better go for AMD(for cheap overclocking rig).
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around 3-4 frames difference in some games
almost every 21xx can reach 3 Ghz, while not every X2 at the same range can reach am i right? and a 3ghz x2 wont beat a 3ghz conroe, IMHO

QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 7 2007, 05:59 PM)
speaking of actual performance during gaming, will it give major diff between my cedar mill @3.4ghz 2mb cache with e2***/E4*** series??
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mr mod, when's ur e2140 up and running and overclocked?  smile.gif
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AMD X2 can easily reach 3GHz if ur RAM can easily reach 1000MHz DDR2..
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got my E2140 already!!! now it's just a matter of setting it up.
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huaaarghh..me too,installed already..i didnt expect it make vista run so smooth oh..even my pentium d need OC like crazy to achieve that..
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Core2Duo Conroe architecture la my fren. smile.gif
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thats why la..but now only use stock fan..only OC when i get new cpu cooler..
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 10 2007, 01:33 PM)
thats why la..but now only use stock fan..only OC when i get new cpu cooler..
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stock hsf should get you to

E2160 around 2.9ghz
and E2140 around 2.6ghz
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what`s the default volt for e2140 ya?
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what`s the default volt for e2140 ya?
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aiyo this proc ah..idle temp is ok..when full load..huiyo..can reach 90 degree oh..
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What did u meant by that? Whats ur vcore and clock speed at that time?
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haih.... Celeron 420 not OC able wif GA-945GCMX-S2... not in the mood to try on other mobo d... mad.gif gonna get E2160 to wait for Penryn... icon_idea.gif
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What did u meant by that? Whats ur vcore and clock speed at that time?
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vcore 1.29 at 2.4ghz..whats wrong ah?is it normal?idle temp is 47..after run orthos test cpu stress..jump up to 70-80 degree..thats hot..

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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 11 2007, 08:41 AM)
vcore 1.29 at 2.4ghz..whats wrong ah?is it normal?idle temp is 47..after run orthos test cpu stress..jump up to 70-80 degree..thats hot..
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wow... i haven't done tat test yet... been bz lately... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 8 2007, 11:08 AM)
AMD X2 can easily reach 3GHz if ur RAM can easily reach 1000MHz DDR2..
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yes it will, and it is very noticeable even with an unoverclocked conroe vs P4
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I wanna as something... Planning 2 buy e2140..
Question is can i use e2140 with crucial ballistix tracer ddr2 1066mhz...? hmm.gif
Coz the e2140 fsb is only 800 mhz..
Getting with GA-P35-DS3 also..
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Aug 12 2007, 06:06 PM)
I wanna as something... Planning 2 buy e2140..
Question is can i use e2140 with crucial ballistix tracer ddr2 1066mhz...?  hmm.gif
Coz the e2140 fsb is only 800 mhz..
Getting with GA-P35-DS3 also..
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I don't see a reason why no.
U can always play with the divider, it isn't a must to run at fsb:dram ratio 1:1
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damn motherboard. Biostar TP35D2-A7 freakin' annoying.

it goes by 3:5 F:R ratio by default. so imagine how far can i OC la. aihhh.

well, i reach 2ghz so far and you know what - i'm damn suprised that my KVR DDR2 667 can do 416mhz! yup!! that's DDR2 832 already!

i haven't memtest or whatever la but seriously, if don't touch 2.6ghz then i'm really not happy la.

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vcore 1.29 at 2.4ghz..whats wrong ah?is it normal?idle temp is 47..after run orthos test cpu stress..jump up to 70-80 degree..thats hot..
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that is hot i must say. try get a better HSf
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 12 2007, 07:30 PM)
well, i reach 2ghz so far and you know what - i'm damn suprised that my KVR DDR2 667 can do 416mhz! yup!! that's DDR2 832 already!


WTH my DDR2 667 is now running at DDR2 916!!

EDITED : btw due to the above RAM limitation (stupid 3:5 FSB RAM Ratio) i'm now running 2.2ghz.

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aiya..goldfries..urs better than me..my ddr2 667 only run ddr2 812 now..4:5 divider..wooaaa..sad sad..by the way..my ram is patriot one..hehe..dunno what chipset lagi..
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oops. 3dmark06 will hang when speed too high. oh well, darn. drop down the speed to 2080mhz damn ratio is still at 3:5.

i thought easy, Intel chipset. plop in the thing will be 1:1 by default. mana tau lowest it could go is 3:5 sad.gif
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bro..whats the highers speed did u get just now?
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2200 la. can do some tests but can't run 3dmark properly.

i'm limited by that ratio. if i could do 1:1 then the testing would be better.

now i feel like exchanging with P965 board.
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mm..currently my speed at 2600mhz,can run 3dmark06 properly..if not because stock fan..might push more speed liao

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 12 2007, 08:30 PM)
damn motherboard. Biostar TP35D2-A7 freakin' annoying.

it goes by 3:5 F:R ratio by default. so imagine how far can i OC la. aihhh.

well, i reach 2ghz so far and you know what - i'm damn suprised that my KVR DDR2 667 can do 416mhz! yup!! that's DDR2 832 already!

i haven't memtest or whatever la but seriously, if don't touch 2.6ghz then i'm really not happy la.
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err.... the Mushkins Enhanced basic in my shop can do 400 easily d... also reach 500 b4... no big deal... unless it's advance module chip... but loose stability at 550 and can't do further than 1200... shakehead.gif the worst thing is... my Corsair XMS2 1GBkit(512MB X 2) does the same exact thing at half price... but wif tighter timings...
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err.... the Mushkins Enhanced basic in my shop can do 400 easily d... also reach 500 b4... no big deal...  unless it's advance module chip... but loose stability at 550 and can't do further than 1200... shakehead.gif  the worst thing is... my Corsair XMS2 1GBkit(512MB X 2) does the same exact thing at half price... but wif tighter timings...
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hehe. i'm surprised to see my KVR reach that. even my DDR400 BT-D43 also don't go that far. smile.gif

this one, Kingston chip and Hynix chip. smile.gif http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228449

ahh. no need to buy DDR2 800 already. yay.
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edit:sorry..

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~44c - 46c, both cores at 100% load using F@H.
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QUOTE(cavcite @ Aug 12 2007, 12:37 PM)
ermm..meaning?cedar mill is better or conroe is better?due to cache? sweat.gif
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Cedar Mill was way better than Conroe-L in terms of OC... but not for normal use...

Cedar Mill can't win over Conroe at all... sweat.gif

*Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series
*Conroe = Core 2 Duo
*Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series...
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 13 2007, 01:43 AM)
Cedar Mill was way better than Conroe-L in terms of OC... but not for normal use...

Cedar Mill can't win over Conroe at all... sweat.gif

*Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series
*Conroe = Core 2 Duo
*Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series...
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mind defind the terms below??

*Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series
*Conroe = Core 2 Duo
*Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series...

i only know there are prescott, cedar mill, allandale and conroe. dunno about conroe-L, celeron 3 and 4 series....
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i onli able to OC my cedar 3.0 up to 3.75g onli..more than tht kenot boot oredi..heh amateur work whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cavcite @ Aug 12 2007, 11:37 AM)
ermm..meaning?cedar mill is better or conroe is better?due to cache? sweat.gif
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i mean, conroe is way better than cedar mill, due to the architecture difference
even u never overclock ur conroe, there is always a big chance a 1.8ghz conroe will smoke a 3.x ghz cedar
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 13 2007, 01:40 AM)
~44c - 46c, both cores at 100% load using F@H.
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wats ur speed and vcore? and the HSF? kinda nice temperature
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wats ur speed and vcore? and the HSF? kinda nice temperature
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btw guys, i thought that if i disable EIST then the multiplier and vcore won't jump around already. mine still jumps around.
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I believe u disable all the spread spectrum/EIST?
Maybe its the time to try Polygon's mod bios.

If not because of the ram divider issue, you should be able to clock 2.5ghz or more with stock hsf @ stock vcore on e2140.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 12 2007, 06:44 PM)
I don't see a reason why no.
U can always play with the divider, it isn't a must to run at fsb:dram ratio 1:1
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here`s mine http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228862
cant pass prime85..do i need to increase the cpu vcore?

atleast this one can run prime test http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228873

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 13 2007, 02:25 AM)
hehe. i'm surprised to see my KVR reach that. even my DDR400 BT-D43 also don't go that far. smile.gif

this one, Kingston chip and Hynix chip. smile.gif http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228449

ahh. no need to buy DDR2 800 already. yay.
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err... DDR800 can go further... sweat.gif i play around 500MHz since my GA-965P-DS4 & Corsair XMS2 1GBkit(512MBx2)...
Here is a cincai OC juz to show how easy it is to be more than 400MHz... sweat.gif
Here's my another OC under testing... icon_rolleyes.gif which i 4got to turn off EIST and all those crap... doh.gif

Now tat i done some OC and tested in a few hardwares... i notice tat cheaper performance RAMs doesn't give tat much of edge to higher level OCers... unsure.gif but hey... they are still cheap... actually i wanted to order the Mushkin HP or Redline series but Mushkin haven't start importing those yet... cry.gif even EM series also very limited which can be found in Low Yat which is also quite rare... wait until my next Hdd arrive then i can start assembling my old parts into my 2ndary rig... for "downloading" purpose... smile.gif and see E2160 wif Corsair XMS2 1GB(2x512MB) kit DDR667 n my 1 year old GA-965P-DS4... smile.gif

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Aug 13 2007, 06:12 PM)
I believe u disable all the spread spectrum/EIST?
Maybe its the time to try Polygon's mod bios.

If not because of the ram divider issue, you should be able to clock 2.5ghz or more with stock hsf @ stock vcore on e2140.
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yeah. divider issue lor.

and last i check Polygon's mod, even though 400 / 533 mhz setting available, it doesn't cure the divider issue.


QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 14 2007, 01:09 AM)
err... DDR800 can go further... sweat.gif i play around 500MHz since my GA-965P-DS4 & Corsair XMS2 1GBkit(512MBx2)...
you don't get what i mean. smile.gif of course we all know DDR2 800 can go even more, but point is i don't need it already when my DDR2 667 can already do DDR2 900 speed. smile.gif
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polygon mod?whats that?mind to share..
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i'm new here becos there's some1 suggest me to oc my e2140 with my p35 ds3 board, any link site for me as reference or guide?

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i'm new here becos there's some1 suggest me to oc my e2140 with my p35 ds3 board, any link site for me as reference or guide?

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u may check at his thread. various of ocing tips and hints u can find here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/OverclockersUnited

u got good Mobo and proc, don't waste them by running on stock... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 13 2007, 11:16 PM)
here`s mine http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228862
cant pass prime85..do i need to increase the cpu vcore?

atleast this one can run prime test http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=228873
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add more vcore, jus make sure the temperature is ok, up to 1.4V is ok for stock heatsink i think

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 14 2007, 07:55 AM)
you don't get what i mean. smile.gif of course we all know DDR2 800 can go even more, but point is i don't need it already when my DDR2 667 can already do DDR2 900 speed. smile.gif
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err... no... actually 667 can also go up to 1000... wait until i rebuild my BT rig from my old parts than i show u... already have a E2160 at hand... now it's a matter of my next HDD... nod.gif icon_idea.gif Hynix, Samsung, Micron & Mushkin shouldn't have much problem wif tat...
n i came to realize tat either my mobo, proc or temp is bottlenecking my OC... my RAM can't seem to go higher than this at the same timing...

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 15 2007, 12:24 AM)
err... no... actually 667 can also go up to 1000... wait until i rebuild my BT rig from my old parts than i show u... icon_idea.gif  Hynix, Samsung, Micron & Mushkin shouldn't have much problem wif tat...
n i came to realize tat either my mobo, proc or temp is bottlenecking my OC... my RAM can't seem to go higher than this at the same timing...
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aih you ah. i'm not here to say how far it can go la cos i'm just talking about MY RAM. smile.gif furthermore it depends on chip.

for now i'm just happy to see mine touch DDR2 900. biggrin.gif
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Netburst architecture will be better than conroe if the clock speed is 90~100% more. What a shame...
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huaa..~~ddr2900 ah bro..im still stuck at 420mhz..
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Maybe ur FSB is high and ur mem stuck at 420MHz(DDR2-840). For me, my Patriot value reach DDR2-1000 @ 56618 @ 2.2v while set FSB to only 333MHz
because of fsb wall.
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yo bro..u use dual channel or single?im using single only..can reach that high ah..
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I'm using dual channel, does ur single channel will oc better? Anyway the bandwidth already halved and performance will drop significantly.
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mm..the clock speed can go higher..but ram speed might drop..
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hey guys where u do get ur M0 stepping from?
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haha bro u got the latest M0 stepping! which is the younger brother of the famous G0 stepping. u see ur cpuz revision.

i looking for tt all over in singapore but havent come! sad.gif!!!!

wanna buy one to DICE it for fun~

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how is M0 ocability compare to L2?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 15 2007, 01:42 AM)
aih you ah. i'm not here to say how far it can go la cos i'm just talking about MY RAM. smile.gif furthermore it depends on chip.

for now i'm just happy to see mine touch DDR2 900. biggrin.gif
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bro... ur RAM chip is Hynix leh... not easy to get leh... should be able to climb higher... brows.gif i remember only the DDR533 easy to get D9 and Hynix chips... but now majority also Winbond or AM... shakehead.gif
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heyya, might join u guys this starting this weekend...any tips on buying the c2d processors and what mobo to get ar? mobo budget about rm 400 or less
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 13 2007, 05:02 AM)
mind defind the terms below??

*Cedar Mill = Celeron 3 series
*Conroe = Core 2 Duo
*Conroe-L = Celeron 4 series...

i only know there are prescott, cedar mill, allandale and conroe. dunno about conroe-L, celeron 3 and 4 series....
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Celeron 347 3GHz still selling at Low Yat... u can check out their pricelist... icon_idea.gif
Celeron 420 1.6GHz... is a replacement to Celeron 347... basically it's based on Intel Core architecture wif 1 core less and less cache... icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think nowadays should at least go for dual core for basic gaming and multitasking coz already tried celeron D 347 on Vista, quite annoying.
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LOL it's better to stick on topic. Remember...this is E2160 OC thread tongue.gif

Anyways...any list of OC or perhaps a list of good steppings? drool.gif
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yea..any good steppings? btw, how to check steppings on c2d chips? 2moro im going down lowyat pickup a complete rig biggrin.gif
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How to identify E21XX stepping
last time i looked at that page it was L2 stepping and G0 stepping. but now its M0 blink.gif
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 17 2007, 01:57 PM)
I think nowadays should at least go for dual core for basic gaming and multitasking coz already tried celeron D  347 on Vista, quite annoying.
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are u sure...? how much RAM u squeeze in...? i got no problems wif 347... it's a great RM150 Proc for me... even outperform AMD X2 3800+ in super_PI... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 17 2007, 12:28 AM)
heyya, might join u guys this starting this weekend...any tips on buying the c2d processors and what mobo to get ar? mobo budget about rm 400 or less
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mobo kar...? get Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 RM411 or Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R ~RM300... hmm.gif
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mobo kar...? get Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 RM411 or Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R ~RM300... hmm.gif
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bro..r u sure Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R price around rm300?
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nvm, decided to get gigabyte P35 DS3...good for oc anot this one?
or should i get Fatal1ty F-I90HD?
or asus p5k SE

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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 17 2007, 11:53 PM)
bro..r u sure Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R price around rm300?
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long time no track G33 price d... so 4got d.... tongue.gif but should be round there... will confirm wif scanart 2morrow... smile.gif

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 18 2007, 12:49 AM)
long time no track G33 price d... so 4got d.... tongue.gif but should be round there... will confirm wif scanart 2morrow... smile.gif
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now rm500+ ..soo expensive
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 16 2007, 11:26 PM)
bro... ur RAM chip is Hynix leh... not easy to get leh... should be able to climb higher... brows.gif  i remember only the DDR533 easy to get D9 and Hynix chips... but now majority also Winbond or AM... shakehead.gif
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yeah. hehe. i suspect i was hold back by the Kingston chip. biggrin.gif


Added on August 18, 2007, 11:59 amok this is freakin' stupid. it took BIOSTAR 5 days to reply, they gave me a new BIOS but heck i'm not sure whether they understood what I was complaining.

I replied, I've not gotten any answer on the same day so heck. I decided not to wait. Made the effort to find a floppy disk and drive, updated the BIOS and ............... WTH, still the stupid RAM ratio.

aihh. me no happy la.

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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 18 2007, 11:19 AM)
now rm500+ ..soo expensive
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tat's the price for G33 big board... i'm talking bout G33M... mATX form factor version... small board leh... hmm.gif
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Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R kan?oh..that one rm485 right now..
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wooot, gigabyte p35 ds3 quite good, at least compared to abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD coz i was testing both....then played with 2 units of e2140 M0 steppings, can reach fsb 375 easily at stock volts biggrin.gif will post screenshots of the result and the hardware setups later brows.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 18 2007, 10:28 AM)
yeah. hehe. i suspect i was hold back by the Kingston chip. biggrin.gif


Added on August 18, 2007, 11:59 amok this is freakin' stupid. it took BIOSTAR 5 days to reply, they gave me a new BIOS but heck i'm not sure whether they understood what I was complaining.

I replied, I've not gotten any answer on the same day so heck. I decided not to wait. Made the effort to find a floppy disk and drive, updated the BIOS and ............... WTH, still the stupid RAM ratio.

aihh. me no happy la.
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maybe u shud ask some bios modder to help u to mod the bios
thou i m not sure where can u find them sweat.gif


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that's the thing, if i need a BIOS modder to mod BIOS before i can OC, then the board sucks already k. smile.gif
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wooot, gigabyte p35 ds3 quite good, at least compared to abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD coz i was testing both....then played with 2 units of e2140 M0 steppings, can reach fsb 375 easily at stock volts  biggrin.gif will post screenshots of the result and the hardware setups later brows.gif
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a little spoiler for 2moro's pics and results from todays and sundays tests...coz the tests were done at my gf's hse (i learnt how to oc from her LMAO) the pics and stuff were left there...

idle at 38c and load at 59c (orthos 2 hrs) on stock HSF @3ghz/stock volts with ambient temps at 33ch e2140, SLA93

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Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R kan?oh..that one rm485 right now..
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 20 2007, 03:09 PM)
wooot, gigabyte p35 ds3 quite good, at least compared to abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD coz i was testing both....then played with 2 units of e2140 M0 steppings, can reach fsb 375 easily at stock volts  biggrin.gif will post screenshots of the result and the hardware setups later brows.gif
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can go up to 400 wif E2160... need 1.4V though... smile.gif

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 21 2007, 02:56 AM)
a little spoiler for 2moro's pics and results from todays and sundays tests...coz the tests were done at my gf's hse (i learnt how to oc from her LMAO) the pics and stuff were left there...

idle at 38c and load at 59c (orthos 2 hrs) on stock HSF @3ghz/stock volts with ambient temps at 33ch e2140, SLA93
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Cool result. Can u please test at above 400fsb? I wanna see if M0 has 400fsb wall like most E2140/60 L2 have...
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owch M0 is on shelves already..any kind souls able to help me hunt n post a e2160?
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... L2 have...
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will do that but average wall i found out from this bunch of e2140's is about 370~390 @ STOCK VOLTS...not sure if upping voltages could help it =)

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using a e2160 SLA3H or something. lol forgot. cant oc higher than 3.15ghz. suspecting ram limiting me. sad.gif and vista giving more headaches. will do more oc-ing after installing xp. no xp cd doh.gif. the best fsb:ram ratio is 1:1 ah? sorry noob question. lol. can get 1:1 ratio but SPD at 2.0 (whatever that means), 5-6-6-16, 668mhz ram. 3ghz oc. if 3.15ghz oc ram running at 5-5-5-15 forgot what ratio, either 5:6 or 3:5. need some sifu to help. but later la. headache with vista. lol.
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using a e2160 SLA3H or something. lol forgot. cant oc higher than 3.15ghz. suspecting ram limiting me. sad.gif and vista giving more headaches. will do more oc-ing after installing xp. no xp cd doh.gif. the best fsb:ram ratio is 1:1 ah? sorry noob question. lol. can get 1:1 ratio but SPD at 2.0 (whatever that means), 5-6-6-16, 668mhz ram. 3ghz oc. if 3.15ghz oc ram running at 5-5-5-15 forgot what ratio, either 5:6 or 3:5. need some sifu to help. but later la. headache with vista. lol.
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ngaa..what do u want actually?

1:1 ratio is the best?

i say yes if ur bus speed is 500,or 600..hehehe

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will do that but average wall i found out from this bunch of e2140's is about 370~390 @ STOCK VOLTS...not sure if upping voltages could help it =)
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QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Aug 22 2007, 10:28 AM)
using a e2160 SLA3H or something. lol forgot. cant oc higher than 3.15ghz. suspecting ram limiting me. sad.gif and vista giving more headaches. will do more oc-ing after installing xp. no xp cd doh.gif. the best fsb:ram ratio is 1:1 ah? sorry noob question. lol. can get 1:1 ratio but SPD at 2.0 (whatever that means), 5-6-6-16, 668mhz ram. 3ghz oc. if 3.15ghz oc ram running at 5-5-5-15 forgot what ratio, either 5:6 or 3:5. need some sifu to help. but later la. headache with vista. lol.
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higher memspeed than FSB giv unnoticeable performance increase imo, atleast i dun c any smile.gif
jus stick to 1:1, more stable and more oc room wink.gif
limit at 3.15? same as me laugh.gif probably batch limitation, i've tried numerous tweak but couldnt pass 3.15 sad.gif

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Aug 21 2007, 11:14 PM)
L2...? my CPU-Z says 2 only... no L also... juz revision L2... hmm.gif
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Huh? I dont understand what you mean...lol
Anyways...what i mean is E21x0 has either L2 or M0 stepping tongue.gif
I still dont know if M0 is helping...like G0 for quadcore series...but then I heard M0 for E4x00 sux...some i have seen wont even reach 3GHz.
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Aug 22 2007, 10:02 PM)
Huh? I dont understand what you mean...lol
Anyways...what i mean is E21x0 has either L2 or M0 stepping tongue.gif
I still dont know if M0 is helping...like G0 for quadcore series...but then I heard M0 for E4x00 sux...some i have seen wont even reach 3GHz.
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QUOTE(superpc @ Aug 22 2007, 09:31 PM)
looks strong for M0, push it higher  brows.gif
higher memspeed than FSB giv unnoticeable performance increase imo, atleast i dun c any smile.gif
jus stick to 1:1, more stable and more oc room wink.gif
limit at 3.15? same as me  laugh.gif probably batch limitation, i've tried numerous tweak but couldnt pass 3.15 sad.gif
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cant la...can boot up at 420x8 @ 1.4v bios, but it wont pass orthos ...=(....maybe coz im using stock cooler and casing no airflow at all...and summore psu is st400 only T__T
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:56 AM)
cant la...can boot up at 420x8 @ 1.4v bios, but it wont pass orthos ...=(....maybe coz im using stock cooler and casing no airflow at all...and summore psu is st400 only T__T
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same here... but PSU is 535W Enermax FMA II... i reach until 500x7 not stable... i think i need 1.5V vCore... which i don dare to put...
i manage to get 400x7 at 1.28V... thumbup.gif maintain life span and performance are my true goals... Orthos 1 hour+ no problem... smile.gif
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bro t3chn0m4nc3r,what board r u using?
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 23 2007, 10:59 PM)
bro t3chn0m4nc3r,what board r u using?
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my old and reliable GA-965P-DS4 rev 1.0... brows.gif tak sangka leh...
my GA-P35-DQ6 manage to get it stable at 1.46V but temp also quite high... sweat.gif no money to buy better cooler d... blush.gif
now my 965 using E2160.... and my P35 using E6300... in terms of clocks both can get almost same clocks... but performance still slack a lil... hmm.gif
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wokie...the long awaited pics of the setups biggrin.gif haha
so it is concluded that the average m0 stepping wall is at 3ghz
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and that p35 chipset can do 448 fsb easily with an e2140 and it can be done up to 495 with an intel e6850.
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i've just published my review on the E2140. biggrin.gif
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wokie...the long awaited pics of the setups biggrin.gif haha
so it is concluded that the average m0 stepping wall is at 3ghz
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and that p35 chipset can do 448 fsb easily with an e2140 and it can be done up to 495 with an intel e6850.
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woo..what the.. the fsb wall has been breached past 400. Ur definitely being hold back by the Stock hsf. There's no Speed wall @ 3ghz. SLam a good hsf and >3.2ghz is possible. Ghawwww
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 24 2007, 11:56 AM)
woo..what the.. the fsb wall has been breached past 400. Ur definitely being hold back by the Stock hsf. There's no Speed wall @ 3ghz. SLam a good hsf and >3.2ghz is possible. Ghawwww
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 24 2007, 11:56 AM)
woo..what the.. the fsb wall has been breached past 400. Ur definitely being hold back by the Stock hsf. There's no Speed wall @ 3ghz. SLam a good hsf and >3.2ghz is possible. Ghawwww
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but then it wont even boot windows at 400x8 wor T_T...summore i went up to 1.4v T_T....

@goldfries
whats the model and the bios version ur using? i can try to ask sum1 to try modding it =)
or would u consider a silver conductive pen to make the fsb 1333 or 1066? =D
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@goldfries
whats the model and the bios version ur using? i can try to ask sum1 to try modding it =)
or would u consider a silver conductive pen to make the fsb 1333 or 1066? =D
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1. people HAVE mod it before. it wasn't successful. options appear but can't get the ratio.
2. i have the latest BIOS from BIOSTAR itself, not even found on BIOSTAR website. did it help? NO!

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 24 2007, 01:17 PM)
but then it wont even boot windows at 400x8 wor T_T...summore i went up to 1.4v T_T....


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ram holding you back?

some ram just won't work well on certain boards.

hy-p5 only max out 323fsb on my p965 express!!!! where it can do ddr2-800 easily on am2
with cheapo micron D9DPN, I can do 350fsb easily.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 24 2007, 01:29 PM)
1. people HAVE mod it before. it wasn't successful. options appear but can't get the ratio.
2. i have the latest BIOS from BIOSTAR itself, not even found on BIOSTAR website. did it help? NO!

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ram holding you back?

some ram just won't work well on certain boards.

hy-p5 only max out 323fsb on my p965 express!!!! where it can do ddr2-800 easily on am2
with cheapo micron D9DPN, I can do 350fsb easily.
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it is hynix fpy5, its doing on my 925mhz at my second pic, it can do ddr 900-5-5-5-15 @ 2.0v...so...i dunno where is the hold back..maybe like kuching said, its the stupid alu stock cooler >_<"

oh yea, where to get the conductive pen..i asked all the shops at seapark including those selling chips and resistors sad.gif

and also, i have requested for a quote for a custom made wc block..rm 50 only nia!...whole set calculated is about rm 200 or less with block, pump and a second or 3rd hand bmw 750cc heatercore
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yuu..like that recommend me also la for that wc..weheheh
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is this reading reliable...? rclxub.gif I've been a Gigabyte Fan since they launched GA-81PE1000 series mobo... but this is unbelievable... ran tests for like weeks and found nothing... sweat.gif
it's on my GA-965P-DS4... it's using Gigabyte G-Power Lite CPU cooler... it's unexpectedly 2 cool... but i can confirm tat these are the temps of the sinks... other than temp3 which i dunno where it refers to... shocking.gif

full system unit spec:

Intel Pentiun Dual Core E2160
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS4
Corsair XMS2 1GB(512MBx2) DDR675
Gigabyte 256MB nVidia GeForce 7600GS(wif added 8cm fan)
Seagate Baracuda 320GB 16MB
Cap Palang 5-6 years old refurbished abd repainted casing...
Enermax FMAII 535W PSU...
Gigabyte DVD combo drive

this is wat i built for my brother's gaming and all downloads... smile.gif
*this pic is taken using Real VNC in my shop so the colour a bit cacat cuz 256 color mode... cuz i forgot to do it at home... sweat.gif

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bro..im very sad to say this..~but..dooo contact me if u selll ur board ahh..ajajajaj


and bro..1350000 rpm?crazy what..

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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 26 2007, 06:23 PM)
bro..im very sad to say this..~but..dooo contact me if u selll ur board ahh..ajajajaj
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dude... i got diff result when i'm using E6300 lar... juz got probs wif Celeron 420, E2140, E2160, E6550 and E6750... tested them all and all almost same temperature... doh.gif
and i can return to Scanart easily if needed... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(fesick @ Aug 26 2007, 05:23 PM)
bro..im very sad to say this..~but..dooo contact me if u selll ur board ahh..ajajajaj
and bro..1350000 rpm?crazy what..
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reading wrong information .. r u using xigmatek ? i have same reading wrong information since i move to xigmatek .
but dont worry , the actual full rpm around 2.1~2.2k
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QUOTE(likito @ Aug 26 2007, 09:58 PM)
reading wrong information .. r u using xigmatek ? i have same reading wrong information since i move to xigmatek .
but dont worry , the actual full rpm around 2.1~2.2k
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i'm using speedfan... sweat.gif
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hallo weh..im hving same problem here..hahah..using speedfan get wrong info..
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use lavalys everest works flawlessly for me =)
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but how bout the fan speed?
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works fine for all the fans with rpm sensor i plugged into the mobo =)
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How bout the M0 and G0 stepping for E2xxx? Must be improved in oc.
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whr got G0 for e2xxx wan? only M0 leh...duno, im getting 380x8 @ stock volts for my e2140 M0 and F@H 2 clients, so far no issues smile.gif...awaiting to increase to 390x8 and orthos it for a few hours to let it burn-in and see if i can make it fly till 400x8 @ stock volts...and all this using the stock alu sink with a delta fan strapped on laugh.gif

btw, anyone wanna sell their e6xxx or q6xxx do let me know biggrin.gif
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How bout the M0 and G0 stepping for E2xxx? Must be improved in oc.
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MO stepping E2140...hehehehe...prime stable at 425Mhz..nice and cheap for oc.


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MO stepping E2140...hehehehe...prime stable at 425Mhz..nice and cheap for oc.
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COOL! What vcore?
I can see someone is lured to the dark side. whistling.gif
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brother 1.45 during load.........
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QUOTE(Vtec(Rock) @ Aug 31 2007, 04:52 PM)
brother 1.45 during load.........
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I think its better than L2. My E4300 L2 on 965P cant go beyond 3.1GHz stable no matter I adjust the voltage.. sad.gif
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Yay, BIOSTAR released latest BIOS for the TP35D2-A7!!!

I was about to publish my review on the board (just finished preparing pics) and a lot of harsh stuff on them then WOW this BIOS saved the day.

finally 400mhz option for Allendales!!! yeah now running at 2.66ghz! biggrin.gif sweeeett!
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Prob is i cant go beyond 335mhz or else it cant boot.... cry.gif

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w00t!!!

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237020 biggrin.gif 3.2ghz!!!


Added on September 1, 2007, 11:27 amw00t again!!!

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237022 3.325ghz! now for some testing.


Added on September 1, 2007, 12:27 pmawww crap. just now 3dmark06 hang on CPU test. so i lowered it a little bit and now i can't get to 3.325 already. smile.gif highest now is 3.318. aihh. well good enough la.

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waa....goldfries on an oc frenzy, whole night didnt sleep ka? hahahaha

btw, how much volts u pumped in to it?


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Prob is i cant go beyond 335mhz or else it cant boot....  cry.gif
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drop the ram to 1:1
off EIST, C1E

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waa....goldfries on an oc frenzy, whole night didnt sleep ka? hahahaha

btw, how much volts u pumped in to it?


Added on September 1, 2007, 12:33 pm

drop the ram to 1:1
off EIST, C1E
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Tried those d.. Still stuck at 335mhz.. Duno wats wrong also.. Sumore mine is mo stepping... cry.gif
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Tried those d.. Still stuck at 335mhz.. Duno wats wrong also.. Sumore mine is mo stepping...  cry.gif
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Tried those d.. Still stuck at 335mhz.. Duno wats wrong also.. Sumore mine is mo stepping...  cry.gif
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 1 2007, 01:54 PM)
Tried those d.. Still stuck at 335mhz.. Duno wats wrong also.. Sumore mine is mo stepping...  cry.gif
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like t3chn0m4nc3r said, pump the vcore to 1.35 or 1.375 and raise the fsb slowly, then test it

or just jump straight to 350mhz fsb and see if it boots

or u can use clockgen and clock it from windows =)

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u should pump it out the vcore. what hsf do use? if stock better not too high.
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 1 2007, 12:32 PM)
waa....goldfries on an oc frenzy, whole night didnt sleep ka? hahahaha


OCer since long time ago. biggrin.gif yes, OCing frenzy due to the new BIOS.

as for how much voltage i pump? i didn't change voltage on anything. smile.gif

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w00t!!!

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237020 biggrin.gif 3.2ghz!!!


Added on September 1, 2007, 11:27 amw00t again!!!

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=237022 3.325ghz! now for some testing.


Added on September 1, 2007, 12:27 pmawww crap. just now 3dmark06 hang on CPU test. so i lowered it a little bit and now i can't get to 3.325 already. smile.gif highest now is 3.318. aihh. well good enough la.
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Is the Biostar a reliable board?
I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios.

And about the GA-P35-DS3
Does the 1:1 divider function correctly with this board?
I have read that some gigabyte boards dont have this option when used with a 800 FSB CPU
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QUOTE(lobuni @ Sep 1 2007, 11:08 PM)
Is the Biostar a reliable board?
I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios.

And about the GA-P35-DS3
Does the 1:1 divider function correctly with this board?
I have read that some gigabyte boards dont have this option when used with a 800 FSB CPU
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yu..this gigabyte got lot divider function..and the function actually hidden..need Ctrl+F1 ..credit to bryan ~
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QUOTE(lobuni @ Sep 1 2007, 11:08 PM)
I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios.


so far mine is ok. smile.gif
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ehehe, goldfries is not going down to bangsar tonight for clubbing session, instead hes gonna continue his OC frenzy tonight right? some more it just rained, should cool the temps a few more C eh? brows.gif


@lobuni
well, it works just fine for me, worst comes to worst, install memset and clockgen in windows and OC from there lor laugh.gif
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ehehe, goldfries is not going down to bangsar tonight for clubbing session, instead hes gonna continue his OC frenzy tonight right? some more it just rained, should cool the temps a few more C eh? brows.gif


me no clubber. biggrin.gif OC enough already la.
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QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 2 2007, 12:27 AM)
yu..this gigabyte got lot divider function..and the function actually hidden..need Ctrl+F1 ..credit to bryan ~
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err... wat kind of divider are u refering to...? as far as i know only the RAM latency and advance Voltage management features are hidden... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 1 2007, 01:54 PM)
Tried those d.. Still stuck at 335mhz.. Duno wats wrong also.. Sumore mine is mo stepping...  cry.gif
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try other ram and see
maybe ram compatibility problem.

then u know what hold u back
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QUOTE(lobuni @ Sep 1 2007, 11:08 PM)
Is the Biostar a reliable board?
I read over at Polygons forums that sometimes it wont boot with right OC settings on a 800 FSB cpu. Also found a report of the onboard soundcard malfunctioning with new 823 bios.
QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 1 2007, 11:32 PM)
so far mine is ok. smile.gif
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OK. here's what i found out.

as mentioned by others, i DID face the same thing. 400mhz option - sound screwed. check out my Review. I've updated it again. This lowered their score by far cos I'm freakin pissed. Their latest BIOS allowed 1:1 ratio for 400mhz processor which i'm very happy about and gave them perfect score but............oh well, heck it shouldn't be perfects core anyway. tongue.gif I changed my mind.

the board was good. it's just the BIOS issue.
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guys..do u think the temperature`s normal?
how to solve this fan speed error?
and whats the temp 3: for?

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fan speed error can't be solved. just ignore it.

idle 55c? wow....
that's pretty high if u ask me.
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not idle..im running sumthin that time..currently idle arround 40-43c for both core..normal?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 3 2007, 12:11 AM)
OK. here's what i found out.

as mentioned by others, i DID face the same thing. 400mhz option - sound screwed. check out my Review. I've updated it again. This lowered their score by far cos I'm freakin pissed. Their latest BIOS allowed 1:1 ratio for 400mhz processor which i'm very happy about and gave them perfect score but............oh well, heck it shouldn't be perfects core anyway. tongue.gif I changed my mind.

the board was good. it's just the BIOS issue.
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Actually, I noticed that almost all Tforce have this issue, except previous S939 and S754 versions. Their AM2 and 965 mobos are physically great, but come with 95% done BIOS, hmm.gif A decent BIOS will only come after a few months....

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95% done BIOS is fine.

but from what i observe, the P35 BIOS was horrible.

till now, even my EIST i disabled in BIOS, my multiplier still keeps changing. latest BIOS choose 400mhz on RAM config then audio won't work.

and that's the 3rd BIOS, EIST still like that.

sorry long time didn't use Intel setup BUT AFAIK EIST multiplier shouldn't be jumpign once in disabled EIST.

or else waffor the system allow me to choose multiplier to set. smile.gif after DISABLE the EIST, the option allowed me to set multiplier. so i set 8 la. boot to Windows, i still see 6. smile.gif jumps automatically to 8 when it's processing. so makes no difference.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 3 2007, 09:09 PM)
95% done BIOS is fine.

but from what i observe, the P35 BIOS was horrible.

till now, even my EIST i disabled in BIOS, my multiplier still keeps changing. latest BIOS choose 400mhz on RAM config then audio won't work.

and that's the 3rd BIOS, EIST still like that.

sorry long time didn't use Intel setup BUT AFAIK EIST multiplier shouldn't be jumpign once in disabled EIST.

or else waffor the system allow me to choose multiplier to set. smile.gif after DISABLE the EIST, the option allowed me to set multiplier. so i set 8 la. boot to Windows, i still see 6. smile.gif jumps automatically to 8 when it's processing. so makes no difference.
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Maybe u should take a look at power management thingy in ur control panel (forgot where...not in winxp now). Sometimes ACPI will force enable speedstep, like notebook.
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go bios, disable EIST,

Enable C1E if you want to have power saving

disable C1E for max speed 24/7
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i'll try later. smile.gif baru flashed new BIOS.

now finally can have audio.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 5 2007, 02:53 PM)
i'll try later. smile.gif baru flashed new BIOS.

now finally can have audio.
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eh... i heard it's a good thing to keep the EIST when u reduce the multiplier and increase FSB for some Biostar board due to a bug... cuz the multiplier will go straight up at full load... true ar...? hmm.gif
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not sure about biostar mobo, but EIST limited my OC by 20mhz of the fsb lol

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My new Pentium Dual Core E2140.Only managed to get it at 3.120Ghz.
Beyond that it wouldn't want to enter windows. sad.gif

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My new Pentium Dual Core E2140.Only managed to get it at 3.120Ghz.
Beyond that it wouldn't want to enter windows. sad.gif

CPU:E2140/1MB/800FSB
Mobo: ASUS P5NE-SLI
RAM: Promos 2x512MB DDR2 667
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woot, nice, whats the voltage in bios u set?

btw, why ur pi timing so much slower then mine @3ghz only wan? =/
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 12:24 AM)
woot, nice, whats the voltage in bios u set?

btw, why ur pi timing so much slower then mine @3ghz only wan? =/
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my voltages are stock.
Probably because there're background programs running gua.
BTW,how many seconds did you got for 1M?

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bryanyeo87, what's your exact setting / configuration? (parts la)

cos you haven't reply me on my blog so i have to ask you here. smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 8 2007, 12:49 AM)
bryanyeo87, what's your exact setting / configuration? (parts la)

cos you haven't reply me on my blog so i have to ask you here. smile.gif
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as in how? u mean the timings and all that ar?



@max_cjs0101
btw, this is with all those stuff running in the background and its not even 3.0ghz rclxub.gif ...i think ur ram is the factor which is slowing down the superpi

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your rig setup la. since you say you have better SUPER PI score.

i'd like to know your setup, especially your RAM timings. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 01:16 AM)
as in how? u mean the timings and all that ar?
@max_cjs0101
btw, this is with all those stuff running in the background and its not even 3.0ghz  rclxub.gif ...i think ur ram is the factor which is slowing down the superpi

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I left the timings to auto and i didnt increase the speed too.
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ouhz ok ok i get it,

e2140 (Q722A025)
giga p35 ds3 bios f4
2X1GB patriot value rams w/o heat spreaders 667

will post the memset timings and stuff tomorrow when i strap the pc with an improvised freezer 64 cooler and see how far i can make it fly tongue.gif


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I left the timings to auto and i didnt increase the speed too.
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try tweaking the timings and see biggrin.gif

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i'm on 5-5-5-15 also. smile.gif don't have memset 3.3 to see the other timings.

negligible difference between your and my 20.359s.
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yalor not much, go gogogo, go get the memset 3.3

btw, what is the "fsb hole" you detect on your mobo? i might want to get that mobo soon because i did something stupid to my mobo just now sad.gif
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sorry. what's "FSB HOLE"?
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Sep 8 2007, 12:14 AM)
My new Pentium Dual Core E2140.Only managed to get it at 3.120Ghz.
Beyond that it wouldn't want to enter windows. sad.gif

CPU:E2140/1MB/800FSB
Mobo: ASUS P5NE-SLI
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stock vcore at 3.12ghz is great.
increase to 1.4v or 1.5v to give it a suicide boot at high clockspeed biggrin.gif
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sorry. what's "FSB HOLE"?
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its the strap thinggy, some mobos from fsb390~fsb 400 can never boot, but it can boot at 401 fsb, just imagine a black hole in the fsb mhz range where nothing can go there biggrin.gif

this one need an intel sifu to explain ade LOL....
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 01:52 AM)
@goldfries

ouhz ok ok i get it,

e2140 (Q722A025)
giga p35 ds3 bios f4
2X1GB patriot value rams w/o heat spreaders 667

will post the memset timings and stuff tomorrow when i strap the pc with an improvised freezer 64 cooler and see how far i can make it fly  tongue.gif


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try tweaking the timings and see biggrin.gif
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eh..last time i try update my bios kan..i get f5 bios..then after that i check back from their website..dun hve liao..weird oh..wonder where i get this f5 thing..
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hmm...
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 8 2007, 12:53 PM)
stock vcore at 3.12ghz is great.
increase to 1.4v or 1.5v to give it a suicide boot at high clockspeed biggrin.gif
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Actuallu i couldnt boot when i increased the voltage when i OC-ed to 3.1Ghz.
When i put the voltage to auto then only i could make it til 3.12Ghz.
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 8 2007, 02:56 PM)
its the strap thinggy, some mobos from fsb390~fsb 400 can never boot, but it can boot at 401 fsb, just imagine a black hole in the fsb mhz range where nothing can go there biggrin.gif

this one need an intel sifu to explain ade LOL....
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ok. well i'm running at 400. smile.gif no problem. no time to go discover black holes.
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QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 8 2007, 07:27 PM)
eh..last time i try update my bios kan..i get f5 bios..then after that i check back from their website..dun hve liao..weird oh..wonder where i get this f5 thing..
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its because F5 is not so stable, there is a F5 beta again...

@goldfries,

hehe ok anyway, u got the golden chip yanno brows.gif
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I just noticed an E2180 at PCZone pricelist.
It's a new release right? blink.gif
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yeap its new, it runs at 2.0ghz and it comes in M0 stepping Flavor only(at least for now)

so shawty, wanna join the e2xxx club too laugh.gif
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yeap its new, it runs at 2.0ghz and it comes in M0 stepping Flavor only(at least for now)
So it's not as good as those e21X0 that is on G0 steppings? blink.gif

Ehh wait, does e21X0 comes in G0 stepping? sweat.gif
Sorry, my knowledge in e21X0 series are low. blush.gif

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shwaty, first batch would be L2. Then currently on MO Stepping.
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is this relevant for now?

1. CPU speed [ Possible FPO batch Included ] - 2.281ghz
2. Voltage @ Bios and Load voltage - Bios does not allow to mod the vcore
3. Motherboard - ASROCK 775 Dual-VSTA
4. HSF - Cooler Master X-Dream P775
5. Temp - 44-46c

the pics below are done with fsb @ 285mhz
more than that, unstable (reached 300 @ 2.66ghz rclxms.gif at first (all stable) but super PI cannot complete - "not exact round")
dont wanna take risk
so i lowered the FSB
i also read somewhere that to stabilise the fsb, the PCIE also needs tweaking
i dunno bout that, so i leave it alone at 100 hmm.gif

anyways, this time its stable - finished Super PI (32M) and Orthos (CPU Stress with Gromac Core)
wanna try Prime95 but Vista disallow Prime i heard (the option torture test was gray)

still, i ran games and stuffs all ok
wanna change gc first
my 5950u suffer ultra artifacts on AERO interface... icon_rolleyes.gif

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anymore advice?
the fsb wall for the mobo is at most 300mhz
but some people already went over the max at 329mhz (with e6600)
hmm....


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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 9 2007, 02:10 AM)
shwaty, first batch would be L2. Then currently on MO Stepping.
So, which one is better?
L2 or M0 blink.gif
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M0 is better, because in average, the M0 users are getting better luck ocing wink.gif
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M0 is better, because in average, the M0 users are getting better luck ocing wink.gif
Okay, that's good. hmm.gif
Been wondering which one should i pick between e2140, e2160 & e2180.
Which one will be the best choice? [For my cousin nod.gif ]
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Is there will be G0 in E2xxx series? From official website there is no G0.
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 9 2007, 07:30 AM)
is this relevant for now?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


anymore advice?
the fsb wall for the mobo is at most 300mhz
but some people already went over the max at 329mhz (with e6600)
hmm....
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Try to change ur mobo.Im sure you'd get better results as Asrock mobo's arent as good as Asus or Gigabyte in OC-ing.


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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 9 2007, 04:43 PM)
Is there will be G0 in E2xxx series? From official website there is no G0.
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AFAIK there's only M0 for E21xx processors.No G0.

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 9 2007, 07:30 AM)

anymore advice?
the fsb wall for the mobo is at most 300mhz
but some people already went over the max at 329mhz (with e6600)
hmm....
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well you could get an conductive pen and bump the fsb up through bsel mod, other then that, get an better mobo lor =/


QUOTE(sHawTY @ Sep 9 2007, 01:55 PM)
Okay, that's good. hmm.gif
Been wondering which one should i pick between e2140, e2160 & e2180.
Which one will be the best choice? [For my cousin nod.gif ]
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depends, ur cousin mau OC anot? if he OC then try your luck at any of the 2160 or 2140, 2180 is not a good ocer( at least the current batches la)


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He may just oc for his cousin or just teach him/her. brows.gif
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okay
i dont mind with the current fsb wall vs cpu oc limit
what i dont understand is, b4 i oc, i tried looking for the intel EIST and/or C1E to disable (cuz i heard if i dont, windows vista will be really slow with the oc) but my mobo has no such options in bios
how eh?
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 10 2007, 02:45 AM)
okay
i dont mind with the current fsb wall vs cpu oc limit
what i dont understand is, b4 i oc, i tried looking for the intel EIST and/or C1E to disable (cuz i heard if i dont, windows vista will be really slow with the oc) but my mobo has no such options in bios
how eh?
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shouldnt be a problem, EIST and C1E is for power saving options only, and the only reason why you turn it off would be to help you overclock further as it conflicts (sometimes) with your OC =)...try looking under speedstep or something like that biggrin.gif
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On the other hands it helps to reduce redundancy on the Northbridge.
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seriously
its not there in the bios
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i think my vista ultimate lags due to that
it really really lags
like warcraft3 also lag
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dudes
finally
i formatted both my drives
and reinstalled vista ultimate in my 80gb hdd
now everything's ultra fast
i dont know why (i think cuz the other disk b4 got win xp)
anyways,i oc'ed the cpu till 2.6ghz and no shit its stable
and i changed the psu from MEC to CM Extreme 430w
hahahaha
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 10 2007, 07:39 PM)
dudes
finally
i formatted both my drives
and reinstalled vista ultimate in my 80gb hdd
now everything's ultra fast
i dont know why (i think cuz the other disk b4 got win xp)
anyways,i oc'ed the cpu till 2.6ghz and no shit its stable
and i changed the psu from MEC to CM Extreme 430w
hahahaha
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aik, why la CM extreme 430w :S

no offence but i really dislike that psu, it killed 3 pc's already cry.gif

u can try to increase the pagefile for windows to increase performance
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 10 2007, 08:39 PM)
dudes
finally
i formatted both my drives
and reinstalled vista ultimate in my 80gb hdd
now everything's ultra fast
i dont know why (i think cuz the other disk b4 got win xp)
anyways,i oc'ed the cpu till 2.6ghz and no shit its stable
and i changed the psu from MEC to CM Extreme 430w
hahahaha
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err... CM..? good luck... be sure to get some bomb defusing squad's suit... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 11 2007, 12:39 AM)
aik, why la CM extreme 430w :S

no offence but i really dislike that psu, it killed 3 pc's already  cry.gif


so unlucky?

i bought that PSU. tried. hated it. sell off to friend.

after a year or 2 of usage, it finally died. hehe. no computer were injured during the death, he just bought another (i think same one) to replace.

my CM Realpower 450w is fine though. so far so good.
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relax
i plan to change in next coming months
after raya ke...seriously
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my dad's pc so far ok je with that psu but i heard good and bad stuffs bout it
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Is there really case where a psu can burn whole pc? shocking.gif Hope it will not happen to me.
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can burn, why cannot? because the psu shorts out, there is a sudden surge of say, 24v @ 30A going to your 12v rail so in theory ur mobo and all ur components got fried with 720w of ram power =/

raptoxx does look kinda nice, duno how it performs though =/
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Sep 11 2007, 01:28 AM)
relax
i plan to change in next coming months
after raya ke...seriously
i nak pakai raptoxx ke
ok kan?
hahaha
my dad's pc so far ok je with that psu but i heard good and bad stuffs bout it
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go get yourself

CM Real power series
CM I-green series
Enermax FMA II/Noisetaker II series
Acbel I-power series

And other truepower series.
I don't believe raptoxx is truepower.

Don't gamble ur pc with a lousy PSU.
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Looks nice but the quality is unknown. At least give another year then we can see ppl experience it.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 11 2007, 02:15 AM)
my CM Realpower 450w is fine though. so far so good.
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My new Pentium Dual Core E2140.Only managed to get it at 3.120Ghz.
Beyond that it wouldn't want to enter windows. sad.gif

CPU:E2140/1MB/800FSB
Mobo: ASUS P5NE-SLI
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>> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=291207 <<

aa??ehh..confuse..

edit:hehe..confuse..just ignore this.

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Yesterday i clocked my E2160 to 3.25Ghz and running on Kingston 667 Value ram 2GB !!!! V core auto !!! 51 degree C during LOAD !!! (ORTHOS)
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 13 2007, 10:51 AM)
Yesterday i clocked my E2160 to 3.25Ghz and running on Kingston 667 Value ram 2GB !!!! V core auto !!! 51 degree C during LOAD !!! (ORTHOS)
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hmm..its better if u post pic here..
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 13 2007, 11:51 AM)
Yesterday i clocked my E2160 to 3.25Ghz and running on Kingston 667 Value ram 2GB !!!! V core auto !!! 51 degree C during LOAD !!! (ORTHOS)
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unbelievable... screenshots pls... smile.gif
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Think it's possible to be true. seems like no prob getting passed the >400fsb wall. stable or not, is another thing
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what cooler are u using? and how about the ambient temps?

because if u set to auto, the vcore would be about 1.4 when u reach 3.2ghz
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Sep 13 2007, 01:45 PM)
unbelievable... screenshots pls... smile.gif
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which is the unbelievable part? smile.gif

KVR DDR2 667 2GB OCing is normal la.

IMO if stock cooler then 51c is surely not possible.

cos my E2140 with optimized air-flow case + stock heatsink, full load at 25c room also reach close to 70c.

now change the cooler to Xigmatek S1283 + AC MX2, full load at 25c room also reach close to comes to around 51c.
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eh..anyone here use 800ddr2 OC ur proc?share pls.~~
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I think it is becoz M0 stepping. If L2 stepping if reach 3GHz already need vcore increase over 1.4v
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guys help me..im stuck wif my 800ddr2 ram and still i cant get past 2.6XXghz..my target is 2.7ghz..
help me wif this setup pls..

user posted image

brian..help






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Put tRP higher....e.g. 12 and see

EDIT: Opps...mabuk...ignore this post lol....i read the wrong screenshot doh.gif

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Sep 13 2007, 03:45 PM)
unbelievable... screenshots pls... smile.gif
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Haha !!! sorry forgot to post my screenshot ! i will post it here tomorrow !!!
I tried several days and night for my settings !!!! happy to share more here !!!

stay tune !
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QUOTE(fesick @ Sep 13 2007, 03:07 PM)
guys help me..im stuck wif my 800ddr2 ram and still i cant get past 2.6XXghz..my target is 2.7ghz..
help me wif this setup pls..


brian..help
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what motherboard do you have?
It doesnt have 1:1 fsb/dram ratio?

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what motherboard do you have?
It doesnt have 1:1 fsb/dram ratio?
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got..but pc keep restart on boot
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maybe processor can't take it?

i got to 3.2ghz without having to set anything to the RAM.

before my BIOS patch, the 3:5 ratio and i ran the system at 2.2ghz with DDR2 667 running at 900 speed. smile.gif
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tick auto at memset

up ras# to cas# read delay to 6

lower Refresh cycle Time to 50

Leave Performance Level (fsb strap) for now

Write to precharge delay to 23

write to read delayed (tWTR) to 20




see if that helps, if it does, then keep upping the speed till u max out the processor at ur desired 2.7ghz and then only tweak the timings
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fesick, using latest bios?
if not, try it. maybe can solve the 1:1 fsb/dram ratio problem.
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oh ok..i`ll try flash new bios..
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fesick, see ur ratio, 5:8 and ur mem speed show 515MHz already. Sure cannot get more than 2.6GHz lor. choose 1:1 divider.
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ouhh yeah hor. didn't realize memset there states RAM speed. yeah, set to 1:1.
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Hey guys,

user posted image

check out more of my E2160 OC screenshots !!!

3.0Ghz

3.25Ghz

at first i manage to bump my E2160 to 3.0Ghz !!! Stable !!! but after than i tried to go 3.33Ghz (which is FSB 370 X 9)... but my RIG won't boot !!!! so i lower down to 3.25Ghz and everything works fine. i'm using Kingston value ram 667 and everything AUTO. I also never touch my Vcore... Everything AUTO !!!

Before overclock, my 3Dmark 2006 shows 6800Marks, after overclock to 3.25Ghz, over 10000Marks !!!

Lucky im not the only one with E2160 ! now im happy to have u guys here in forum to discuss with !
A few questions

1. My Vcore set to auto but it is around 1.4V when 3.25Ghz OC... is this ok ? Any danger?
2. My Stock FAN is running at 3100rpm, CPU temperature 51 degree C under LOAD, is this good?
3. Im using Kingston Value DDR2 667Mhz RAM 2 X 1GB, is it possible to run at 800Mhz ??? any problems?


have a nice day !


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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 14 2007, 09:39 AM)
Hey guys,

user posted image

check out more of my E2160 OC screenshots !!!

3.0Ghz

3.25Ghz

at first i manage to bump my E2160 to 3.0Ghz !!! Stable !!! but after than i tried to go 3.33Ghz (which is FSB 370 X 9)... but my RIG won't boot !!!! so i lower down to 3.25Ghz and everything works fine. i'm using Kingston value ram 667 and everything AUTO. I also never touch my Vcore... Everything AUTO !!!

Lucky im not the only one with E2160 ! now im happy to have u guys here in forum to discuss with !

have a nice day !

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fesick, juz set to 1:1. 5-5-5-15. don play with memset juz yet.
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guys..thanks..finally past 2.7ghz..i think i know the problem now..after i set all vcore,vdimm ++..to auto,problem solve..
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mmm...auto on p35ds3 raises vcore to quite high levels leh =/
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Hello, im using P5N-E SLI with E2160 here.
i tried to OC my E2160 to 3.25Ghz but now the problem is i cannot pass Super PI properly
Super PI not responding when i try to calculate !!!

im using Kingston Value Ram DDR2 667Mhz, i set my memory timing to AUTO, so is there any problem with my timings? please help !!!!!

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7430/325ghznm8.jpg

THANKS!
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mmm...auto on p35ds3 raises vcore to quite high levels leh =/
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ya..so high..vcore at 1.37..but i change the vcore n now at 1.3..forgot to say that..
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 14 2007, 02:49 PM)
Hello, im using P5N-E SLI with E2160 here.
i tried to OC my E2160 to 3.25Ghz but now the problem is i cannot pass Super PI properly
Super PI not responding when i try to calculate !!!

im using Kingston Value Ram DDR2 667Mhz, i set my memory timing to AUTO, so is there any problem with my timings? please help !!!!!

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7430/325ghznm8.jpg 

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At that speed I think the vcore should be more than 1.4v. hmm.gif
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the vcore already 1.4+ lo..the problem now is the ram timing..yu..ask tailo here..~i dunno oh..
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The review from Tomshardware shown that 3.2GHz needs 1.5v already.
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the vcore already 1.4+ lo..the problem now is the ram timing..yu..ask tailo here..~i dunno oh..
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The review from Tomshardware shown that 3.2GHz needs 1.5v already.
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so all TAILO here, please help me !!! regarding the ram timing... im still hoping for the best
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Usually for E2160 if 1:1 setting should be ok at 3.2(400x8) @ 44412/55515 (value ram). The ram also need at least 2.0vdimm.
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E2160 is multiplier 8?
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Haha, just want to let him lower down the multiplier. If his ram cant go further then (356x9) should be ok then.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 15 2007, 05:05 AM)
Usually for E2160 if 1:1 setting should be ok at 3.2(400x8) @ 44412/55515 (value ram). The ram also need at least 2.0vdimm.
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E2160 is multiplier 8?
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Haha, just want to let him lower down the multiplier. If his ram cant go further then (356x9) should be ok then.
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Hey guys !!

yesterday i changed my KVR 667 to Kingston Hyper X 800Mhz Ram !!!

any recommendation for Ram timing, fsb or Ram Volts ????
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Hi guys,
Just got a 2140 and a Gigabyte P35 DS3L yesterday.
Anyhow, the 2140 vcore is supposedly 1.35 volt is that correct?
But mobo show show normal vcore hovering at 1.18.....so is that normal or what (default setting)?
Do I have to manually set it to 1.35 volt?

Edit:
I'm not sure I'm doing this right, please comment on it.
1) I lowered the ram multiplier to 2, so that a 667 runs at 400 (read some guide that you need to reduce the speed, because it will be increased linearly with cpu frequency)
2) Lowered the CPU multiplier from 8 to 7 (read somewhere that it is more stable to do so)
3) Increase CPU Host frequency slowly from 200

Is it true that a higher FSB is better even though the end result is the same?
Example:
7x350 better than 8x306?

Thanks.


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mm..1.18? hmm.gif ..my mobo show normal vcore at 1.325v ..
but i dont think it will set exactly the same as what u set bios..
cuz when u get into bios try using cpu-z or any app. to read the vcore..
like mine..i set in bios to normal..but it show 1.28 using cpu-z
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Doggystyle

1) As you like, u want to run the ram at lower speed or OC it.
2) Who said so? go for the higher multiplier for higher clockspeed.
3) Well, I push my E2160 straight to 300fsb. lol
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Sep 17 2007, 12:45 AM)
Doggystyle

1) As you like, u want to run the ram at lower speed or OC it.
2) Who said so? go for the higher multiplier for higher clockspeed.
3) Well, I push my E2160 straight to 300fsb. lol
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urm actually there is a misconception on the bolded part, higher fsb = higher memory bandwidth from processor to rams, thus lifting the bottleneck

so in effect if you do a superpi bench

400x8 would be slightly slower then 457x7 in the test, and normally it stabilizes the pc (from all of my ocing ventures biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Sep 15 2007, 05:05 AM)
Usually for E2160 if 1:1 setting should be ok at 3.2(400x8) @ 44412/55515 (value ram). The ram also need at least 2.0vdimm.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 15 2007, 05:07 AM)
E2160 is multiplier 8?
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hey guys !

i am now overclocking my E2160 (stock 1.8Ghz) to 3.2Ghz and using 2 x 1Gb Kingston HyperX PC6400 (800Mhz) ram !

to get a stable overclock of fsb:mem ratio, i Underclock my memory under stock speed !!!

i would like to ask
1. any problem if i underclock my memory? why ?
2. should i increase my memory voltage? how much ?

All helps are apprecieted !!! im so happy i can find this thread !!!
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 17 2007, 01:33 PM)
hey guys !

i am now overclocking my E2160 (stock 1.8Ghz) to 3.2Ghz and using 2 x 1Gb Kingston HyperX PC6400 (800Mhz) ram !

to get a stable overclock of fsb:mem ratio, i Underclock my memory under stock speed !!!

i would like to ask
1. any problem if i underclock my memory? why ?
2. should i increase my memory voltage? how much ?

All helps are apprecieted !!! im so happy i can find this thread !!!
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Heyya!

1.) there is absolutely no problem what so ever if u underclock, but why do it? ur are wasting ur money no? smile.gif
2.)you only increase it if u want to overclock it, and increasing voltages is to stabilize an overclock

and why would you want to underclock ur rams? sweat.gif
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i think he trying to say that he underclock by doing 1:1 ratio..is it?or..
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why my cpuz detected my multiplier x6 only but my bios was detected x8

proc:2140

btw what's the majority highest bus speed for stock vcore

do i need to increase my ram voltage?

sorry for noob question this is my 1st time oc

currently i'm running 280 x 8

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Heyya!

1.) there is absolutely no problem what so ever if u underclock, but why do it? ur are wasting ur money no? smile.gif
2.)you only increase it if u want to overclock it, and increasing voltages is to stabilize an overclock

and why would you want to underclock ur rams?  sweat.gif
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i think he trying to say that he underclock by doing 1:1 ratio..is it?or..
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Yes fesick ! im trying to do 1:1 ratio to get the best out of my overclocking !! thanks !!!

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Yes fesick ! im trying to do 1:1 ratio to get the best out of my overclocking !! thanks !!!
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bro.... i don think ur RAM need tat much voltage...? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kengkhim @ Sep 18 2007, 01:32 PM)
why my cpuz detected my multiplier x6 only but my bios was detected x8

proc:2140

btw what's the majority highest bus speed for stock vcore

do i need to increase my ram voltage?

sorry for noob question this is my 1st time oc

currently i'm running 280 x 8
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averagely it does 333x8 for e2140 minimum

the 6x multi is because you have the power saving feature enabled which is C1E and EIST, it drops the multi to save power and thus producing less heat when ur pc is in idle or running applications with lower processing requirements
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yup 8x333 is a good start.

if you're going 8x400 - please monitor the temperature, it gets hot after 3ghz IMO.
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Guys, thanks for the input.
Anyhow, my final result is this
Multipler x8
FSB 300
Final Speed 2.4ghz
Ram ratio I dropped to 2, (so from upping the FSB, it raise from 400 - 600)

Idling at around 40c (did nothing with the stockfan except slap on some arctic5)

I can't set the ram ratio at 3.33, because when I raise the FSB, and the ram breaches the 800 point, it will definitely crash. Is that normal?
I'm using cheapo kingston 667.

Anyhow, Im quite satisfied. When I bought my 24" benq, I was pissed cause I couldnt play 1080p movies smoothly. Tried to play the same movie at factory 1.6ghz, and still as slow as my AMD64 2ghz. Clock that baby to 2.4 and its smooth as butter.
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imagine clocking it to 3ghz+ wouldnt that be like lubricant? LOL
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 18 2007, 06:14 PM)
averagely it does 333x8 for e2140 minimum

the 6x multi is because you have the power saving feature enabled which is C1E and EIST, it drops the multi to save power and thus producing less heat when ur pc is in idle or running applications with lower processing requirements
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So is that necessary to turn off the C1E? i already turned off EIST.
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 18 2007, 08:40 PM)
imagine clocking it to 3ghz+ wouldnt that be like lubricant? LOL
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Yeah.
But even with 25-30% cpu usage, after an hour, it seems to idle at 47c..fan speed around 1870 rpm. Is this considered hot or just the limitation of the cheapo stockfan?
Edit: I'm monitoring it through the EasyTune5 that comes with gigabyte.

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@Doggystyle
dont use easytune, coz that monitors the middle of the core and not the hottest part so ur hottest part is about 52 or so...and set the fan to max pls if u intend to oc on stock cooling...


use lavalys or speedfan instead of easytune =/



@kengkhim
well it depends la, do u want ur processor to be full throttle 24/7 (use more power and generate more heat?) or do u want it to save some pwoer and lower the heat

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 19 2007, 01:16 AM)
@Doggystyle
dont use easytune, coz that monitors the middle of the core and not the hottest part so ur hottest part is about 52 or so...and set the fan to max pls if u intend to oc on stock cooling...
use lavalys or speedfan instead of easytune =/
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well it depends la, do u want ur processor to be full throttle 24/7 (use more power and generate more heat?) or do u want it to save some pwoer and lower the heat
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ic thanks so i think i'll stick with C1E enable smile.gif

thanks for the help notworthy.gif
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planning to get E2160 what motherboard is suitable for it and good overclockable and not so expensive
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QUOTE(Mindsoul @ Sep 19 2007, 01:49 AM)
planning to get E2160 what motherboard is suitable for it and good overclockable and not so expensive
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how about same as mine gigabyte p35 ds3 unsure.gif
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yes i highly recommedn p35 ds3 its under rm400 now, and its highly ocable, unless ur the extreme type of fella doing phase and cascade or LN2 then i recommend p35 dq6 tongue.gif


@kenghim
if u have C1E enabled, my as well enable EIST together mar smile.gif
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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Sep 18 2007, 11:40 PM)
Yeah.
But even with 25-30% cpu usage, after an hour, it seems to idle at 47c..fan speed around 1870 rpm. Is this considered hot or just the limitation of the cheapo stockfan?
Edit: I'm monitoring it through the EasyTune5 that comes with gigabyte.
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haha..we same oh..currently just using 2.4ghz..but ur temp bit high than me..cuz mine on idle for both core only 45c n 42c..

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QUOTE(Mindsoul @ Sep 19 2007, 01:49 AM)
planning to get E2160 what motherboard is suitable for it and good overclockable and not so expensive
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GOOD ole P5B is selling for rm300 , Gigabyte P35-DS3/S3L is below rm400 too
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bryanyeo: Thanks for the tip. If I disable 'Automatic fan speed' in the bios, then by default it will run at full speed, right?

Some other question:
1) Easytune report ram volt as 2.1 (but I let all the volt as default)
the bios dont seem to monitor ram volt?
2) I cant seem to be able to set the Performance to Standard if I overclock, is this is a normal behavior? (now it is set to Turbo)

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QUOTE(Doggystyle @ Sep 19 2007, 08:40 PM)
bryanyeo: Thanks for the tip. If I disable 'Automatic fan speed' in the bios, then by default it will run at full speed, right?

Some other question:
1) Easytune report ram volt as 2.1 (but I let all the volt as default)
  the bios dont seem to monitor ram volt?
2) I cant seem to be able to set the Performance to Standard if I overclock, is this is a normal behavior? (now it is set to Turbo)
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yes it becomes full speed

1)what ram are you using by the way? you could try to lower the volts down manually
2) normally the sub timings get changed when u change, if you are adventurous, u can press ctrl + f1 at bios tog et the hidden settings page for ram and its sub timings

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now i keep monitoring my my CPU voltage and temp, after several hours of research, i found that setting AUTO in Vcore voltage is not good (not stable)... Around 1.39V to 1.42V up & down, temp idle = 44C load = 55 C

so i try to put 1.4V as a start for my 355X9 = 3.2Ghz overclock !!!

but it wont boot !!! BSOD comes out, then i try 1.405V and BINGO !!! it boots and temperature is

IDLE = 38C
LOAD = 45C

!!! WHAT THE !!! but my main problem is MB temperature.. seems higher than CPU Temp !!!! Idle = 45 C Load = 55 C

Any ideas ???
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nvidia nforce 6xxi series chipsets has been known to be mini nuclear reactors smile.gif

ur temps are ok for the stock cooling, so what i can suggest is for you to get an aftermarket NB hsf, or if ur adventurous, uc an use an evercool vcre(rm45) and use zipties to strap it on although caution need to be applied if your doing that
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thanks for the info but I wonder how can i FIT A COOLER for my NORTHBRIDGE if i install the ThermalRight Ultra 120 ????
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Guys, I want to ask if e2180 is better in overclocking than e2140??
Since e2180 has 10x multiplier. Anyone else try it before? Correct me if Im wrong..
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Hi, does anyone here with Gigabyte P35 DS3L flash their BIOS to latest ver, F5?

And is it much safer to flash during BIOS boot than using the windows utility?
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM)
thanks for the info but I wonder how can i FIT A COOLER for my NORTHBRIDGE if i install the ThermalRight Ultra 120 ????
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Your question has been answered in my post #254
Use zipties and strap the vcre to your NB, it works yanno thumbup.gif




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Hi, does anyone here with Gigabyte P35 DS3L flash their BIOS to latest ver, F5?

And is it much safer to flash during BIOS boot than using the windows utility?
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it is definately safer to flash using bios boot then in windows, less chance of misflashing
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wow!! my mb temp goes higher when i raise the nb voltage !!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(Mindsoul @ Sep 19 2007, 01:49 AM)
planning to get E2160 what motherboard is suitable for it and good overclockable and not so expensive
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For me value board which is under RM400 will be Biostar P35, Abit IP-35e, and Gigabyte P35-S3, those are capable of doing 3GHz C2D. nod.gif
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bryanyeo: Thanks. Guess I will hold back on that bios flash first.

Anyhow, is the max speed of the stock fan 2000rpm? Off all the autofan setting already. Is there anyway to make it faster or thats the limitation of the cheapo fan?

Edit: OC'ed to 2.66ghz, during Prime95 test, the fan rise up to 2700, but I cant seem to find any control to lock it to 2700. Temp at 50% load, is around 60-62c, but the heatsink dont really feel hot at all. So is the Speedfan accurate or am I messing up the hsf installation (lack of contact)?

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hmmm...idk, i have mine at 58c at that speed under load...and the fan speed is about 2200~2800 max
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The BSEL mod enables 1066MHz FSB for many of the Core architecture processors, including E2xxx, E4xxx and even the innocent Celerons 4xx.

And this mod is good for non-overclocking boards. But take note that certain boards actually refuse to change FSB with this modded processor. And also, you can even push (maybe) to 333MHz FSB with the mod with motherboards with very limited overclocking capabilities.

First thing first - if you have the patience, you can do the manual approach - make a teeny weeny wire and a teeny weeny cellotape and paste this bent U-shaped wire shorting the specific contacts as according to the overclocking instructions (go search for it).

Or if you have a conductive paint (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) or if you are even brave enough to solder it (NOT RECOMMENDED), you'll cut the time of shorting the contacts.
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or instead of wire, you can use aluminium foil sticked on with AS5 smile.gif

although, using the conductive paint is the most safest way to do it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 23 2007, 07:07 PM)
or instead of wire, you can use aluminium foil sticked on with AS5 smile.gif

although, using the conductive paint is the most safest way to do it biggrin.gif
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Aluminium foil? That small contacts are too tiny, and making an aluminium U-shaped contact isn't easy at all! If you have the patience, you can actually form that perfectly. I have to resort to the wire trick in the end! rclxub.gif

I'm still hunting for the car window defogger kit. The conductive pen/paint is darn expensive and doesn't even guarantee results - some forums have problems with these pens not working with the mod as well! sweat.gif

The best BSEL mod will be the E4300, because of the multiplier. However, similar results can be done on E2xxx series, with much success as well. smile.gif
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use a razer blade to cut the foil? and to improve contact, use AS5 lor
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fellas.. is there a diff between 'dual core' & 'core2duo'?


Added on October 7, 2007, 3:24 amcan i change my e2160 to atleast an e6600 ?

will it effect anything on my mobo?

pls tell me.. cos i think i've been conned by the shop...

and pls tell me the price for e2160@1.8Ghz ?? pls pls

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QUOTE(amalmuahahax @ Oct 7 2007, 03:22 AM)
fellas.. is there a diff between 'dual core' & 'core2duo'?


Added on October 7, 2007, 3:24 amcan i change my e2160 to atleast an e6600 ?

will it effect anything on my mobo?

pls tell me.. cos i think i've been conned by the shop...

and pls tell me the price for e2160@1.8Ghz ?? pls pls
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Pentium dual core (exact spelling on the box!) and not pentium D and pentium 4, is esseitially the same as a core 2 duo e4xxx but with a 1mb cache instead of a 2mb cache.

and no you cant change it to a e6600 because e6600 has 4mb cache instead of 1mb, but you can overclock it to a e6600 speeds (and beyond).

yes it will affect your mobo, your mobo will have higer fsb and thus more performance. thats assuming your mobo supports and has options for ocing.

why do you think you have been conned?

e2160 is about rm 300 and below at the moment
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Last time i push my brand new 2180 with stock voltage & cooler to the max 2505Mhz, any further cannot boot...but last night when i try again 333x8 = 2666Mhz it boot and prime95 stable.....hooh so happy.....wonder what it take to get it to 3.0Ghz

1.my question how far your P2D can go with stock vol..?
2. what is [SLA3H], is tat the stepping of the proc..??

anyway iam with ABIT IP35-E

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Punish

1.stock vcore usually around 2.9ghz to 3ghz, maybe more depend on revision.
2. Yes, that's the stepping code.

try fsb:dram ratio 1:1? maybe can clock higher
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2.9Ghz to 3Ghz r u kidding me....??

i think mine was revision M0 according to CPUZ...

so should i push it to 2.9..?? 2.0 to 2.9 stock vol....really impressive

how to check whether mine was [SLA3H] or else..

1st time intel user here.... notworthy.gif

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i didn't change vcore setting also can reach 3.33ghz. smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 7 2007, 11:11 PM)
i didn't change vcore setting also can reach 3.33ghz. smile.gif
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Depends la. My kid bro's unit needed 1.425v on 650i to whack 3.33Ghz. It's all in the batch revisions
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shocking.gif bah 3.33ghz !!!!!!

GTG


Added on October 7, 2007, 11:12 pm shocking.gif bah 3.33ghz !!!!!!

GTG

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Its really depend on chip actually.

My E2160 L2 can do 2.9ghz with stock vcore.
3.0ghz need 1.35vcore.

Anything above 3ghz need hugh vcore raise sweat.gif
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guess what....when i read kentang post...i say to my self why can my proc do the same...and i terus restart my pc change the multiply to 9 to make it 333x9 = 3Ghz and save.......what happen next.....its alive....iam now running 3.0Ghz on stock voltaga, tq goldfries for your ..
post...32M super pi PASS now lets Prime for 8 hour...

GTG

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smile.gif nice leh. i only reached 3ghz+ a few weeks after i got the board, simply because the BIOS lack OCing features until a little update.

after that, 8x400. smile.gif which is what i'm running now. record is 8x416 or something like that.
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Oct 7 2007, 07:23 PM)
Pentium dual core (exact spelling on the box!) and not pentium D and pentium 4, is esseitially the same as a core 2 duo e4xxx but with a 1mb cache instead of a 2mb cache.

and no you cant change it to a e6600 because e6600 has 4mb cache instead of 1mb, but you can overclock it to a e6600 speeds (and beyond).

yes it will affect your mobo, your mobo will have higer fsb and thus more performance. thats assuming your mobo supports and has options for ocing.

why do you think you have been conned?

e2160 is about rm 300 and below at the moment
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hmm my mobo supports till 1333 fsb.. so i gues wont be a problem changing proc..

the shop sold me e2160 @ rm400+..this was 3 weeks ago ..now u tell me sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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400? i got my 2180 for RM305 from lyp....2160 bout RM265 lidat..

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QUOTE(amalmuahahax @ Oct 8 2007, 01:12 AM)
hmm my mobo supports till 1333 fsb.. so i gues wont be a problem changing proc..

the shop sold me e2160 @ rm400+..this was 3 weeks ago ..now u tell me  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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which shop is this?



e2160 was never even at rm400 price bracket when it launched
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Oct 8 2007, 01:34 AM)
which shop is this?
e2160 was never even at rm400 price bracket when it launched
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which shop is it la..so at least forumers will know the bad repo and wont kena mar sad.gif
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Oct 8 2007, 02:34 AM)
which shop is it la..so at least forumers will know the bad repo and wont kena mar sad.gif
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sadly prime95 not stable with 3.0ghz..

ive change it to 322 x 9 2.9ghz stable but sumehow when i prime95 the first thread and the second thread not working in the sametime......is like this, thread 2 start loop 6 but thread 1 still at loop 3....but the prime95 is still running...can i call this fenomenon unstable...should i lower the cpu clock..??

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QUOTE(Punish @ Oct 8 2007, 09:12 PM)
sadly prime95 not stable with 3.0ghz..

ive change it to 322 x 9 2.9ghz stable but sumehow when i prime95 the first thread and the second thread not working in the sametime......is like this, thread 2 start loop 6 but thread 1 still at loop 3....but the prime95 is still running...can i call this fenomenon unstable...should i lower the cpu clock..??

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I must have the wierdest E2160 ever produced...

Spec:
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Strider560watt
whatever result i post here is orthos 8hrs stable.. with some problem though sweat.gif

everything stock until 2.5gig (278x9), can boot 2.6gig at 1.35v, and 1.375 orthos 8hr stable..
then straight away 3.0gig (334x9) bootable at 1.400v but need 1.500v to orthos stable 12hrs..

HOWEVER.. here's the kicker..

anything above 2.5gig i CANT POST into bios after restart for second time.. the bios will force to default by itself before i have to load my oc setting to boot at certain speed again!!! or i have to use easytune5 to oc it sad.gif

so i have to stay happy at 2.5gig.. CRAP.. sad.gif

anything above 2.5gig is orthos STABLE for at least 8hrs BUT CANNOT BOOT AFTER RESTART!! doh.gif doh.gif sad.gif CRAP...

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QUOTE(baok @ Oct 8 2007, 09:54 PM)
I must have the wierdest E2160 ever produced...

Spec:
E2160
GeminII
P35-DS3R F6
D9GKX
7900GT
Strider560watt
whatever result i post here is orthos 8hrs stable.. with some problem though sweat.gif

everything stock until 2.5gig (278x9), can boot 2.6gig at 1.35v, and 1.375 orthos 8hr stable..
then straight away 3.0gig (334x9) bootable at 1.400v but need 1.500v to orthos stable 12hrs..

HOWEVER.. here's the kicker..

anything above 2.5gig i CANT POST into bios after restart for second time.. the bios will force to default by itself before i have to load my oc setting to boot at certain speed again!!! or i have to use easytune5 to oc it sad.gif

so i have to stay happy at 2.5gig.. CRAP.. sad.gif

anything above 2.5gig is orthos STABLE for at least 8hrs BUT CANNOT BOOT AFTER RESTART!! doh.gif doh.gif sad.gif CRAP...
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Sounds like BIOs issue since I encountered it on my kid bro's Abit 650i. After a beta BIOS update and manual setting, it was stable (Can you imagine unbootable even at 1066Mhz FSB for E2160?)
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QUOTE(baok @ Oct 8 2007, 09:54 PM)
I must have the wierdest E2160 ever produced...

Spec:
E2160
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whatever result i post here is orthos 8hrs stable.. with some problem though sweat.gif

everything stock until 2.5gig (278x9), can boot 2.6gig at 1.35v, and 1.375 orthos 8hr stable..
then straight away 3.0gig (334x9) bootable at 1.400v but need 1.500v to orthos stable 12hrs..

HOWEVER.. here's the kicker..

anything above 2.5gig i CANT POST into bios after restart for second time.. the bios will force to default by itself before i have to load my oc setting to boot at certain speed again!!! or i have to use easytune5 to oc it sad.gif

so i have to stay happy at 2.5gig.. CRAP.. sad.gif

anything above 2.5gig is orthos STABLE for at least 8hrs BUT CANNOT BOOT AFTER RESTART!! doh.gif doh.gif sad.gif CRAP...
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erm, had the same prob with my E2160 too. it was OCCT stable at 409*8 (3.27ghz) and also prime stable for 24 hours.but once shutdown or restart it will auto set to default as if the OC was unstable. i increased the PCI freq to 103 and solved the problem rclxub.gif
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hurm...no issues for me though :S

i suppose its the mobo issue or bios issue like what almostthere said
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Looks like another killer cpu from Intel.
Too bad the cache was limited at 1MB but I dont think thats a problem given that most ppl nowadays just use their pc for word processing, assignment, internet and watching movies or listen to mp3.
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Ok.. updates... now i get the new P35-DS3R mobo.. the old one i rma due to loose power connector shakehead.gif doh.gif .. and now i can boot 3.0gig at 1.3875v and never fail to restart again biggrin.gif and currently run orthos to it.. maybe my mobo was the culprit here and not the proc.. and currently on bios F3...

will update later smile.gif


Added on October 9, 2007, 4:02 pmupdate again.. orthos fail after 5 minutes tongue.gif now upping the vcore at 1.4v.. and orthos.. and no more restart failure thumbup.gif i really think the mobo was the culprit tongue.gif

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Looks like another killer cpu from Intel.
Too bad the cache was limited at 1MB but I dont think thats a problem given that most ppl nowadays just use their pc for word processing, assignment, internet and watching movies or listen to mp3.
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the 1mb cache affects the overall performance quite minimally compared to a 4mb brethren at the same speeds, just that in gaming and in certain cache dependant benchmarks, the 1mb cache does degrade performance by as little as 2%

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yesterday i bought Teamelite 800Mhz 1GB x2 stickfrom Czone for RM299..

my friend say those rams r great cuzz can OC to 1000Mhz easily...

sadly when i use it with my rig its not stable even with stock 5-5-5-15 800Mhz...1st i tot my there something wrong with my mobo so i update the bios to the latest one....but still the same, not stable...

i send it back to Czone with my rig and the technician there test it and confirm it not compatible with my mobo Abit IP35-E and ask me to change other Ram...since the TeamElite no stock oreddy i choose to topup RM45 for Corsair XMS2 6400 2GB twinX kit....

anyone here using this Mobo and TeamElite having the same problem..?

i feel disappointed tat the Teamelite cant work together my mobo.....what a waste...

anyway my cosair XMS2 setting is 966Mhz 5-5-5-12 2.0v

GTG

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errr...wrong thread la bro, but anyway,

i wouldnt think its a incompatibility issue bro, sometimes the preprogrammed vdimm voltage in the ram module doesnt communicate with the mobo due to out of Jedec specs, so you just need to bump the vdimm volts up ur self smile.gif
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well
i was overclocking my e2140 with my 965-s dark
but it wont go above 250fsb
i increased the voltage (VTT, CPU and DRAM, and NB)
but the dram speed can only go up to 710mhz sad.gif
haha

i guess its my ram cannot go more (MUSHIN VALUE ENHANCED 667MHZ)
that is 5-5-5-15
i tried to tighten it to 3-3-3-9 but it will only get to POST
shucks

really want to see my e2140 go to at least 3.0ghz
now only 2.2 and no more

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new E2140 user reporting in!

try to OC mine today, but stuck at 2.3Ghz only..
any tips to push more?
am using giga DS3 and 1GB KVR..
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wat you proc rivision check with cpuz whether its "M0" or else....

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mine is M0,
but now pening oledi..
windows system properties and SP2004 shows the clock speed is 3.04GHz rite now,
but CPU-Z shows 2.28GHz..
which one is true? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Oct 11 2007, 04:47 PM)
well
i was overclocking my e2140 with my 965-s dark
but it wont go above 250fsb
i increased the voltage (VTT, CPU and DRAM, and NB)
but the dram speed can only go up to 710mhz sad.gif
haha

i guess its my ram cannot go more (MUSHIN VALUE ENHANCED 667MHZ)
that is 5-5-5-15
i tried to tighten it to 3-3-3-9 but it will only get to POST
shucks

really want to see my e2140 go to at least 3.0ghz
now only 2.2 and no more
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oh man, it's ghey to run it @ those speeds. the E2140 has more powahh to it laugh.gif . first, check n make sure your ram divider/ratio is correct. I've tested mushkin value ddr2 667 and can hit ddr2 850 5-5-5-15 @1.9v no probs

QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 11 2007, 04:49 PM)
new E2140 user reporting in!

try to OC mine today, but stuck at 2.3Ghz only..
any tips to push more?
am using giga DS3 and 1GB KVR..
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oh another ghey case of running it so slow laugh.gif . again, with good hsf, 3ghz no prob. check your ram ratio. it's so simple to OC on giga.
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ram ratio oledi 1:1,
and I also got TT BTVX, no problem to handle high temp.
any guide? me totally noob about this giga.
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Oct 11 2007, 08:34 PM)
oh man, it's ghey to run it @ those speeds. the E2140 has more powahh to it  laugh.gif  . first, check n make sure your ram divider/ratio is correct. I've tested mushkin value ddr2 667 and can hit ddr2 850 5-5-5-15 @1.9v no probs
oh another ghey case of running it so slow  laugh.gif  . again, with good hsf, 3ghz no prob. check your ram ratio. it's so simple to OC on giga.
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well dude
seriously
the voltage already upped
im using 965-s dark
need i adjust the features in DRAM features?
cuz i heard its usually voltage issues

the voltage is

CPU - 1.45
DRAM - 2.0
VTT - 1.425
NB - forgot

and the two SB voltage below also forgot
but all red la instead of yellow
hahaha

if others cant boot, in my case, i can
for example, i set the thing to 2.7ghz and it still boot up but stuck at POST
hahaha
my PSU is OCZ Powerstream 520w (tak cukup? rclxms.gif )


Added on October 11, 2007, 10:58 pmthe divider already set to 1:1 (533mhz) in the first place

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use clockgen lor, shouldnt be a prob unless its with the rams la :S
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erm... now my E2160 (bought from kucingfight) is stable at 3gig@1.4375v.. quite high for 3gig.. sweat.gif will aim for 3.4-3.6gig after raya... 3.2 is bootable at 1.4375v but fail orthos after two hours.. everything else is at normal setting.. maybe i need to increase fsb and mch voltages after this smile.gif

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DFI P-965S Infinity Dark

1) Dram Timings - This is most at auto except for the ram 5-5-5-15
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2) Genie Bios at 2.1ghz
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3) voltage settings
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please comment or kutuk
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Try using lower multiplier and clock with higher FSB to find the proc FSB wall first. smile.gif Let's say 400x7 first.
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 11 2007, 04:49 PM)
new E2140 user reporting in!

try to OC mine today, but stuck at 2.3Ghz only..
any tips to push more?
am using giga DS3 and 1GB KVR..
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 11 2007, 09:15 PM)
ram ratio oledi 1:1,
and I also got TT BTVX, no problem to handle high temp.
any guide? me totally noob about this giga.
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TRY TO OC WITH HIGH FSB ABOVE 300...SAY 322 X 9 = 2900...IT WORK WITH MY E2180

GTG

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bro punish,
somehow your tips worked!
see screenie below..

anyway,
is mine undervolt?
try using multiplier 6 and 7, but both failed.



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bro punish,
somehow your tips worked!
see screenie below..

anyway,
is mine undervolt?
try using multiplier 6 and 7, but both failed.
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its the vdroop la
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well, as i said before,
i'm noob..
hehe..

anyway,
what is the safe voltage range for this proc?
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well, as i said before,
i'm noob..
hehe..

anyway,
what is the safe voltage range for this proc?
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hehe no la biggrin.gif

depends on what you define as safe smile.gif

normally its +/- 10% of the stock voltages

for hard core ocers, 1.5v is considered minimal laugh.gif
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this one can considered safe or not? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 12 2007, 04:07 PM)
this one can considered safe or not? hmm.gif
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what mobo do u use and what vcore u enter in bios.. 1.4375v perhaps? have you run orthos test for at east 8hrs?? erm.. good oc though.. just try bump the vcore a little bit until 1.5v (with good aircooling of course smile.gif ) and try to set at 3.2 or above.. goodluck wink.gif
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mine is DS3, forgot what I set in bios, sumwhere under 1.45v.
wanna find the fsb wall first, after that only run orthos.
err.. is it dangerous to set vcore at 1.5v?
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depends lor, if ur using stock cooling then it is quite dangerous :S
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 12 2007, 09:16 PM)
mine is DS3, forgot what I set in bios, sumwhere under 1.45v.
wanna find the fsb wall first, after that only run orthos.
err.. is it dangerous to set vcore at 1.5v?
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get a good cooling bro smile.gif TT BT will do.. GeminII also good.. so does Xigmatek S1283.. Zalman 9700NT is quite good.. or Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme... just choose one... smile.gif

I've tried P35-DS3 and somehow the board maxed out at 485fsb sad.gif DS3R able to reach 520fsb brows.gif

err.. that with E6850 not E2xxx or E4xxx wink.gif

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QUOTE(baok @ Oct 13 2007, 12:57 AM)
get a good cooling bro smile.gif TT BT will do.. GeminII also good.. so does Xigmatek S1283.. Zalman 9700NT is quite good.. or Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme... just choose one... smile.gif

I've tried P35-DS3 and somehow the board maxed out at 485fsb sad.gif DS3R able to reach 520fsb brows.gif

err.. that with E6850 not E2xxx or E4xxx wink.gif
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bump the chipset volt for NB by +0.1v and see it fly drool.gif
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play with vcore mean your play with fire...so cool it...tats i y i still with stock voltage....still using stock cooler...dapat duit raya i buy la gemini2..

akim try oc with stock voltage to the max...try 333x9 = 3Ghz with stock voltage..stable or not..?

GTG

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will try today, now busy with raya liao laugh.gif
already got TT Big Typhoon VX,
so, cooling is not a problem biggrin.gif
aiya, forgot already the stock voltage..
hehe..
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Oct 13 2007, 10:40 AM)
will try today, now busy with raya liao laugh.gif
already got TT Big Typhoon VX,
so, cooling is not a problem biggrin.gif
aiya, forgot already the stock voltage..
hehe..
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change the bigtyphoon fan to a more powerful fan.. either NMB, Delta or ADDA.. try to look at 0.5A power rating or above.. erm.. 0.5A power rated fan is enuff laa.. sweet spot for performance vs noise smile.gif
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QUOTE(Punish @ Oct 13 2007, 10:10 AM)
yesterday i bought Teamelite 800Mhz 1GB x2 stickfrom Czone for RM299..

my friend say those rams r great cuzz can OC to 1000Mhz easily...

sadly when i use it with my rig its not stable even with stock 5-5-5-15 800Mhz...1st i tot my there something wrong with my mobo so i update the bios to the latest one....but still the same, not stable...

i send it back to Czone with my rig and the technician there test it and confirm it not compatible with my mobo Abit IP35-E and ask me to change other Ram...since the TeamElite no stock oreddy i choose to topup RM45 for Corsair XMS2 6400 2GB twinX kit....

anyone here using this Mobo and TeamElite having the same problem..?

i feel disappointed tat the Teamelite cant work together my mobo.....what a waste...

anyway my cosair XMS2 setting is 966Mhz 5-5-5-12 2.0v

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glad to see that u've got ur new ram biggrin.gif ... tinggalkan aku cry.gif

966mhz... mean ur FSB 483?? that high man! ... my e6300 FSB can only go up to 333... temp problem rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(syazone @ Oct 13 2007, 12:03 PM)
glad to see that u've got ur new ram biggrin.gif ... tinggalkan aku cry.gif

966mhz... mean ur FSB 483?? that high man! ... my e6300 FSB can only go up to 333... temp problem rclxub.gif
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selamat hari raya syazone maaf zahir batin...

aku just luck dapat e2180 nie chip stepping best kot..itu sebab boleh oc sampai 2.9Ghz...ram tuh bukan apa dah terpaksa bli...lagipon ram dah murah...345 for XMS2 tuh kalau beli value lebih kurang jugak price dier....

nanti senang2 aku raya umah ko.....kau cuma readykan duit raya jer...kumpul duit nak bli CM Gemini2.....

GTG

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with stock voltage can go up to this only..

one Q, what is (G)CMH overvoltage in bios?


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with stock voltage can go up to this only..

one Q, what is (G)CMH overvoltage in bios?
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chipset overvolting


Added on October 14, 2007, 4:43 pmto improve ur oc go and get memset 3.4 beta1 and post that SC here, i will be damned if that is ur max OC, because i think you can oc more brows.gif

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today's try..

look at the vcore, is it dangerous?


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quite high. dangerous or not, you have to monitor your temperature.
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full load @ 43C while doing orthos for 10 minutes.
I think still safe, isn't it?
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full load @ 43C while doing orthos for 10 minutes.
I think still safe, isn't it?
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yeah its more then safe temps

btw, what cooler is it?
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using TT BigT VX,
with the fan spinning at 1800rpm,
cannot tahan if set to full speed (2200rpm)..
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wah oc capability of 2140 also par with my 2180.....wat a waste of RM70 different....Me also 2.9 Max stock vol....no plan to play with vcore cuzz no money to spent on CPU coolers...

GTG

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