QUOTE(bbhing98 @ Jul 23 2018, 10:05 PM)
the points are given after your travel datePrepaid Cards BigPay - Prepaid MasterCard (with Mobile Apps) V2, CashBack, BigPoint & Remittance
Prepaid Cards BigPay - Prepaid MasterCard (with Mobile Apps) V2, CashBack, BigPoint & Remittance
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Jul 25 2018, 06:47 PM
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Jul 25 2018, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Jul 25 2018, 06:30 PM) donno why all the fuss... before got BigPay you all spent using other CC what That's fine... no problem... if that's final I'll just adjust to the FUP. People who are not affected will not understand this. It's just like government policies... only middle class is complaining because they are the one who affected the most...now BPay came out with FUP, just adapt and accept it lah Business Trip - Before BigPay - Prepare full cash, make sure you have enough cash. Minimize credit card spending due to bad Fx. Credit card for accommodation. Business Trip - BigPay (Before FUP) - Prepare least cash possible, swipe BigPay as if you're paying cash including accommodation/daily spending. Business Trip - BigPay (After FUP) I'll have to re-calculate how much cash do I need, part of the transaction on BigPay, part of the transaction on credit card + Cash. If it's too troublesome and I can only benefit Fx rate at minimal. Yes, I may have to ditch BigPay all for once (again i'm not threaten and I'm no where capable to do so). |
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Jul 25 2018, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(yvonnesoo @ Jul 25 2018, 12:43 PM) sounds great. another thing is due to bigpay is a financial related, i really hope your system can be stable because i noticed that the system will be down at least once a week. i'm not sure about others, but i feel a little insecure. that cause me to keep monitoring the balance of my funds and points Yes. We've actually focused a lot of our attention on building up the infrastructure and our customer support team rather than marketing in the past few weeks. You're 100% right and your concerns are legit!QUOTE(Fortunekl @ Jul 25 2018, 02:27 PM) Agree with you bro, if the cardholder unable to withdraw beyond 10k, he wont reload above that amount. So nobody will abuse the limit. You can still top up with no limit in the app using your banks debit card or online bank transfer. Why? Banks charge us fees for credit card top ups. We absorb these fees so that you can top up easily and for free. We think limiting monthly credit card top ups is a fair way for us to continue to provide a convenient top up method in a sustainable way. That's why we've introduced unlimited online bank transfer at no charge. now they are killing off the genuine spender and force them go back to the credit card. BigPayJonathan QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 25 2018, 03:20 PM) the problem is Bigpay should encourage more spending rather than withdrawal, thus limiting on credit card topping up is nonsense as this will lower down the spending power. See my reply above!they should have getting some % back from merchant that swipe Bigpay to contra back the credit card top up. QUOTE(hebe87 @ Jul 25 2018, 03:22 PM) RM10,000 limit for reload by credit card is fair. it is better than imposing charges for reload via credit card. Thanks for the support!true. but if there is no limit on reload via credit card, and if there is no charge for reload via credit card, then BigPay business model in unsustainable in long run. i rather they limit RM10,000 per month for reload via credit card. better than imposing charges for reload via credit card. QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 25 2018, 05:47 PM) This is not a good news for me! Normally I'll have to pay for accommodation which would end up > RM 10,000 per trip. You can still spend and top up more than RM10K per month... The only thing we're limiting is the amount you can top up with credit card per month.Sigh... So RM10,000 and the rest = credit card FOR THAT MONTH! Why not just reduce the withdrawal limit as BigPay promoting its card for best conversion rate so I assume you are encouraging overseas spending over BigPay. RM 10,000 EUR 2,000 ++ USD 2,500 ++ GBP 1,900 ++ How do you encourage business user to use BigPay? Please reconsider the limit again! (sorry it took me some time to reply, but Tony made an unexpected appearance in our office so things got a little out of hand haha) |
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Jul 25 2018, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Jul 25 2018, 07:08 PM) Yes. We've actually focused a lot of our attention on building up the infrastructure and our customer support team rather than marketing in the past few weeks. You're 100% right and your concerns are legit! I don't think people will use bank money to top up Bigpay…You can still top up with no limit in the app using your banks debit card or online bank transfer. Why? Banks charge us fees for credit card top ups. We absorb these fees so that you can top up easily and for free. We think limiting monthly credit card top ups is a fair way for us to continue to provide a convenient top up method in a sustainable way. That's why we've introduced unlimited online bank transfer at no charge. See my reply above! Thanks for the support! You can still spend and top up more than RM10K per month... The only thing we're limiting is the amount you can top up with credit card per month. (sorry it took me some time to reply, but Tony made an unexpected appearance in our office so things got a little out of hand haha) Thanks anyway for the new implementation and hope it stays like that without any extra charges or limit reduce in the future… |
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Jul 25 2018, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 25 2018, 05:59 PM) Actually you all still didn't get what I mean. If you are limiting on withdrawal, you will limit the people to abuse the withdrawal for CB purpose but not limiting people who are really using it to buy stuff. We should let BigPayJonathan to know about this and change another way of limiting rather than happy with what they implement currently. The more you support their implementation, the more they feel comfortable with it without knowing that actually limit the spending for their company as well. I wish I could tag Tony but he is not in the forum but if he see what I have written, they would have discuss again on limiting the withdrawal rather than reloading… QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 25 2018, 07:21 PM) I don't think people will use bank money to top up Bigpay… despite what people say in the past few pages, if you are truly only after the good exchange rate on bigpay, you would topup with online banking. it's nothing to be ashame of that most of us here are after credit card rebate despite what you say. Thanks anyway for the new implementation and hope it stays like that without any extra charges or limit reduce in the future… and besides to control abuse withdrawal, i suppose one of their concerns is the source of the income to topup? that's why some of our forumers got their card blocked, needing to provide money trail, etc. it's not about withdrawal alone. |
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Jul 25 2018, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 25 2018, 06:48 PM) That's fine... no problem... if that's final I'll just adjust to the FUP. People who are not affected will not understand this. It's just like government policies... only middle class is complaining because they are the one who affected the most... You can still top up via bank transfer once you’ve used up your Credit Card top up. I don’t see a big deal of thisBusiness Trip - Before BigPay - Prepare full cash, make sure you have enough cash. Minimize credit card spending due to bad Fx. Credit card for accommodation. Business Trip - BigPay (Before FUP) - Prepare least cash possible, swipe BigPay as if you're paying cash including accommodation/daily spending. Business Trip - BigPay (After FUP) I'll have to re-calculate how much cash do I need, part of the transaction on BigPay, part of the transaction on credit card + Cash. If it's too troublesome and I can only benefit Fx rate at minimal. Yes, I may have to ditch BigPay all for once (again i'm not threaten and I'm no where capable to do so). |
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Jul 25 2018, 07:49 PM
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we should be grateful bigpay's wallet size (large purse) is at RM10k.
most ewallets are at RM1.5k, while few small purse at RM200. |
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Jul 25 2018, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 25 2018, 07:21 PM) I don't think people will use bank money to top up Bigpay… Only 3 million CC holders in Malaysia so we are the minority. Majority of Malaysians do not own a credit card.Thanks anyway for the new implementation and hope it stays like that without any extra charges or limit reduce in the future… A lot of people will use online banking to top up, just like how we top-up Big Prepaid before BigPay was launched, to buy AirAsia tickets or to perform a retail transaction to avoid monthly fee (RM2.50). |
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Jul 25 2018, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Jul 25 2018, 07:08 PM) Yes. We've actually focused a lot of our attention on building up the infrastructure and our customer support team rather than marketing in the past few weeks. You're 100% right and your concerns are legit! Thanks Jonathan for the explanation. I will rather go back to CC once my cc reload was exhausted. At least other cc still give me some TP/cashback. CASA reload will give nothing.You can still top up with no limit in the app using your banks debit card or online bank transfer. Why? Banks charge us fees for credit card top ups. We absorb these fees so that you can top up easily and for free. We think limiting monthly credit card top ups is a fair way for us to continue to provide a convenient top up method in a sustainable way. That's why we've introduced unlimited online bank transfer at no charge. See my reply above! Thanks for the support! You can still spend and top up more than RM10K per month... The only thing we're limiting is the amount you can top up with credit card per month. (sorry it took me some time to reply, but Tony made an unexpected appearance in our office so things got a little out of hand haha) |
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Jul 25 2018, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Jul 25 2018, 07:43 PM) despite what people say in the past few pages, if you are truly only after the good exchange rate on bigpay, you would topup with online banking. it's nothing to be ashame of that most of us here are after credit card rebate despite what you say. Sorry, I didn't mention using for oversea purchase, my purpose is not to carry so many credit cards and earn extra points with Big points rather than using bank to reload or use credit card to buy stuff directly.and besides to control abuse withdrawal, i suppose one of their concerns is the source of the income to topup? that's why some of our forumers got their card blocked, needing to provide money trail, etc. it's not about withdrawal alone. Anyway I already found ways to top up more than RM10k/month with BP~ |
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Jul 25 2018, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(Fortunekl @ Jul 25 2018, 08:04 PM) Thanks Jonathan for the explanation. I will rather go back to CC once my cc reload was exhausted. At least other cc still give me some TP/cashback. CASA reload will give nothing. you can take advantage of the good exchange rate via bigpay like what others mentioned earlier |
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Jul 25 2018, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 25 2018, 08:07 PM) Sorry, I didn't mention using for oversea purchase, my purpose is not to carry so many credit cards and earn extra points with Big points rather than using bank to reload or use credit card to buy stuff directly. haha i see. anyway the 'you' was referring to every1 in general. pretty sure every1 got their own reasons and we just got to adapt to the new rules.Anyway I already found ways to top up more than RM10k/month with BP~ |
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Jul 25 2018, 08:43 PM
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What a heavy brain storming on the FUP (Top Up) introducted which has gone far beyond the business vision of BP, bro Jonathan shall summarize these to feed the team to save their brain cell on thinking all the discussed.
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Jul 25 2018, 08:45 PM
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Ok, is actually limit to 10k per card per month instead of 10k per month.
Happy now everyone? |
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Jul 25 2018, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 25 2018, 06:06 PM) Exactly, I'm one of the genuine spender instead instead of abusing the cashback. As others have explained, just topup from bank account. Still much better than carrying cash.the Fx conversion rate is best in country however, I'm stuck at 10k reloading limit which I've hit the limit by now as of July. QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 25 2018, 07:21 PM) I don't think people will use bank money to top up Bigpay… If I'm spending that much on an overseas trip monthly I'll top up with online banking. Save 3 % or more on exchange rate will beat almost all reward points programmes for CC.Thanks anyway for the new implementation and hope it stays like that without any extra charges or limit reduce in the future… |
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Jul 25 2018, 08:58 PM
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Jul 25 2018, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(skty @ Jul 25 2018, 04:31 PM) Aiya. Argue so much for what? BigPayJonathan why not this way? unless there is more reason to limit the top up rather than just third party charges.The best method is, remove the cc top up limit, then impose % charges for the amount top up using cc after exceeding 10k per month lo. Win-win situation if the % still can cover by the cash rebate given by credit card and still can cover the third party fee incur to BigPay But I really disappointed with BigPay way of giving “guidelines” regarding potential ban trigger. Keep on giving “indirect” guideline want user to guess. The monthly withdrawal limit guideline until now still a mystery |
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Jul 25 2018, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(skty @ Jul 25 2018, 09:42 PM) BigPayJonathan why not this way? unless there is more reason to limit the top up rather than just third party charges. If they charge cc fee it's against MasterCard/VISA terms and conditions, for one. Also and more importantly that adds friction to people using their card (even if only charged for above 10k, it's the impression it leaves).And what benefit do they get? So that kiasu people can max out their benefits from other cards? |
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Jul 25 2018, 10:42 PM
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New rule with 10k cc top up limitation liao
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Jul 25 2018, 11:23 PM
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