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post Jul 23 2018, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jul 23 2018, 01:35 PM)
Top up boost app using cash back card eg PBB VS entitled for normal cash back & cash back 4u campaign?
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post Jul 25 2018, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Jul 25 2018, 12:19 PM)

Now... We’re introducing a fair usage policy when it comes to credit card top up. From now on, there will be a monthly limit of RM10,000 on credit card top ups only. Top ups via debit cards and online banking remain unlimited. Why are we doing that? Because we’re committed to saving you money and making financial services fair for everyone - but certain services are costly due to third party fees.

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This is fair, but doesn't (yet) cover what we've already asked for in this thread, which is a clear and defined threshold for cash withdrawal. By itself it should help with the more egrerious cases (*ahem* 65k) though.
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post Jul 25 2018, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Jul 25 2018, 12:58 PM)
Wallet limit is only RM10,000.
Max CC top up per month is RM10,000.

Not many people will top up using Debit / Online banking then withdraw cash at ATM as RM6 per withdrawal.

So cash withdrawal per month at RM10,000 is the best scenario.
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I'm concerned regularly withdrawing (let's say) 8k per month will still trigger, as that is still a substantial amount, especially if you have no other spending. Better to have it clearly stated in T&C for avoidance of doubt.

And IMO withdrawal limit needs to be HIGHER than deposit limit, as ideally some would be using BigPay to receive payments (in which case they'd have to keep withdrawing). At least if BigPay is really interested to compete on the ewallet space rather than just the prepaid card space.
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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Jul 25 2018, 03:01 PM)
OMG ....... this limitation cut my cash flow bangwall.gif
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This is more fair really.
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post Jul 25 2018, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(psiloveu @ Jul 25 2018, 03:14 PM)
u may not understand freelance liked me how important of Bigpay to relieve cash flow issue. sweat.gif
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That's not the purpose of this card though. And cashflow should be settled by CC as it allows time gap for repayment, unless you're insisting you must spend in cash.
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 25 2018, 06:06 PM)
Exactly, I'm one of the genuine spender instead instead of abusing the cashback.

the Fx conversion rate is best in country however, I'm stuck at 10k reloading limit which I've hit the limit by now as of July.
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As others have explained, just topup from bank account. Still much better than carrying cash.

QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 25 2018, 07:21 PM)
I don't think people will use bank money to top up Bigpay…
Thanks anyway for the new implementation and hope it stays like that without any extra charges or limit reduce in the future…
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If I'm spending that much on an overseas trip monthly I'll top up with online banking. Save 3 % or more on exchange rate will beat almost all reward points programmes for CC.
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post Jul 25 2018, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Jul 25 2018, 09:42 PM)
BigPayJonathan why not this way? unless there is more reason to limit the top up rather than just third party charges.

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If they charge cc fee it's against MasterCard/VISA terms and conditions, for one. Also and more importantly that adds friction to people using their card (even if only charged for above 10k, it's the impression it leaves).

And what benefit do they get? So that kiasu people can max out their benefits from other cards?
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post Jul 26 2018, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 25 2018, 11:48 PM)
Thanks but no thanks. I am not going to topup Bigpay using online transfer. Is makes Bigpay totally useless.
Keep in mind that Bigpay aren't the only card in the world which offer so cheap exchange rate. Many mat salleh cards have the same feature as Bigpay. I use Bigpay for 2 reason.
1) cheap exchange rate
2) ability to earn cashback anytime, anywhere without restrictions.
Totally useless to topup Bigpay using bank transfer as using Bank transfer, is as good as using cash which earns you nothing.
Agreed.
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Totally useless? It's better than using your Malaysian CC overseas and getting stacking charges and lousy exchange rate. This is just complaining for sake of complaining.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 26 2018, 10:33 AM)
so nobody care to answer my Q on why my invalid referral code issue? will it be user who key in problem or the code problem?

but everyone will flood to PM referral codes whenever someone asked for it.
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This is a discussion forum, technical issue like that straight ask BigPay isn't it better?
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post Jul 26 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Jul 26 2018, 10:48 AM)
IRL meetup, potentially at our offices. I'm thinking presenting our product roadmap, sharing upcoming marketing initiatives, feedback + Q&A session. Freebies, definitely. Tony, I'll invite him. We might get someone to video shoot the entire thing and ask you guys question, but yeah... This would really valuable for us too.

Let me know if there's an interest, and I'll make it happen.
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I'm sure some would be interested, depending on time. Obviously majority won't be able to make due to work/distance etc. though but am sure you'd get a useful number.

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 26 2018, 10:48 AM)
PM will get respond ? I can see many users here, if every single PM responded...

As I'm very new here...

Anyway, thanks will try PM n wait
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Lowyat isn't their support forum... go to their FB page or any other regular Customer support channel. This should be SOP for any technical issue and any company, not sembang in LYN.
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QUOTE(Jason @ Jul 26 2018, 01:48 PM)

I don’t have to be “grateful” to Big Pay. They are a business and I am a user. When I use the card they collect fees from the merchant. It is their call to introduce whatever limit they deem fit, and I’m merely pleading with them not to do this as it was an excellent product to begin with, and now they are just setting a course to be another (in my opinion) “meh” product.

I understand the logic they have a RM10k withdrawal cap. You shouldn’t really need to withdraw so much cash, since you can buy the LV bag by using the card and PIN. And I don’t want to carry RM10k or equivalent in foreign currency. But limiting top up when using credit card hurts genuine users.
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Actually withdrawal doesn't cost BigPay much, it is the credit card reload that is their exposure, as they pay the merchant fees for that. Unlimited CC reload means unlimited liability for them (1.1% or so I think).

10k is already a very high amount for majority of their target market. The fact is you would not be able to use this card to purchase your luxury items since the max credit you can have is 10k anyway (this has not changed).

And I'm pretty sure there's very few 'genuine users' who will be hurt by a 10k CC limit, simply because those who spend (not withdraw) more than 10k a month are divided into a few groups:-

1. High net-worth individuals (these are the only ones who will be both genuine and hurt, though IMO it won't hurt much)

2. Those who use CC for company expenditures. Most CC have regulations against this, even if they're not enforced evenly. These I do not consider to be 'genuine users', as they're taking advantage of both the finance company's and their own business admin's laxness in enforcement.

3. One-off large spend (e.g. annual holiday). These users can reload from debit or online banking.
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QUOTE(hakkai0810 @ Jul 26 2018, 03:19 PM)
actually i am curious if what the original poster mentioned is wrong / funny. any keyword to share so i can google on this to improve my financial mgmt knowledge?
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Basically they're referring to cash flow and interest-free period. Although at the relatively small amounts being discussed here, it really doesn't matter (much more important when you're a business, which is why GST forced lots of smaller shops to close down, cash flow constriction).
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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Jul 26 2018, 03:43 PM)
You don't claim back VAT/GST 20% ?
The VAT/GST refund/credit should go to the Visa/Mastercard that you use. Bigpay can store up to RM10,000 only so it may not be able to receive the VAT refund!
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Wonder how BigPay will handle that though (someone should test it). Reject the refund? Because I suspect their system will not allow more reload when amount is 10k, but if it will reject refund then quite dangerous even for local spend. Imagine you swipe to buy a laptop for 5k, then after that you reload to > 5k. If that large transaction refunded then jia lat eh.
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QUOTE(donhue @ Jul 27 2018, 02:17 PM)

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Please request a way for us to add a description to the cards on the top up sources.
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Yes this is a good suggestion!
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QUOTE(cashie @ Jul 28 2018, 01:52 PM)
actually 10k max limit defeat the purpose.. if I go overseas buy something, 10k cap is very less in MYR
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jul 28 2018, 03:17 PM)
I think that 10K limit is only money from other Credit Card per month.

After you finish that, you can continue to transfer more money from your bank account.
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I think he's talking about max limit in terms of amount in card.

If you're buying luxury item of let's say 8k pounds value you can't use this card di.
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QUOTE(donhue @ Aug 1 2018, 03:05 PM)
Personally I've used my card on Shopee twice this week without issues.. Used the app for both times..

The first time, I think I entered the card information during checkout, so there's no pre-auth required.. The second time, the card was already saved in the app, so I just selected from there..

Not sure if it was CyberSource or iPay88.. not sure how to check..
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Same situation here, I've used it at least 5 times di in the past month. Added during checkout.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 2 2018, 01:39 AM)
Someone mentioned that some shopee sellers provide loan repayment service.
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I've seen those. Sure wanna trust ah? If they miss payment it's very bad for your CCRIS as well as penalty.
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QUOTE(LittleShinyStar @ Aug 4 2018, 10:44 AM)
Hahaha. As long as I reload money into Big Pay, I will still get cash back automatically on my monthly credit card statement right?
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Not related to BigPay, go to your CC's thread. If you're on PBB CC then that's only partially accurate. But yes, go ask that on your CC's thread.
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Aug 6 2018, 08:50 AM)
Dear all sifu,

today good day to reload the pbb, but wanna check with you all, do i still need to wait until 8am only start to reload to BP since BP will backtrack the transaction to 8 hours before as claimed? Or BP already make good the system according to local and real time?

Thanks
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No one (who knows anything) has ever claimed 'backtrack transaction' for BigPay. PBB thread had report for various online selling shop (shopee the most infamous), but nothing for BigPay. I have tested that BigPay is local gateway myself.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 7 2018, 11:36 AM)
Oh ya, I read back "for a fee", I don't know why I read it as "for free". blush.gif
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fruitie too used to getting free things liao =)

I don't see the attractiveness of waving anyway. When I can use I use, if not it's not a big hassle. Convenience benefit is small, not enough for me to pay a fee to replace the card.

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