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 Mazda CX5 Gen 2 Owners Club V2, Kodo: Soul of Motion

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post Feb 25 2025, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 25 2025, 10:12 AM)
yes, the 2.0 and 2.5 both NA are reliable. the 2.5T price used drop so much.
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Is the 2.5T reliable?
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Feb 25 2025, 03:24 PM)
2020 cx5 2.2 diesel rm66k
2020 cx5 2.5T 4WD rm107k

that is a lot of difference.

so far heard many news of diesel engine problem overseas, like Taiwan and UK. But rarely heard any issues with diesel engine for CX5 in Malaysia? not sure why? maybe our version already localised to be more durable?
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No, there are already cases of the diesel engine issue in Malaysia if you are in the Mazda Facebook group. But maybe the number of cases is not as much as people thinks...maybe 0.1% or 1%?
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post Feb 25 2025, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Feb 25 2025, 03:24 PM)
2020 cx5 2.2 diesel rm66k
2020 cx5 2.5T 4WD rm107k

that is a lot of difference.

so far heard many news of diesel engine problem overseas, like Taiwan and UK. But rarely heard any issues with diesel engine for CX5 in Malaysia? not sure why? maybe our version already localised to be more durable?
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Got, read many cases from CX5 fb group. Engine burst. Got warranty, but drawback, takes time, still owner need to pay some few k for puspakom, jpj thingy. Warranty are for those who still maintain at SC, and 100k km capped by Bermaz
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Feb 25 2025, 03:24 PM)
2020 cx5 2.2 diesel rm66k
2020 cx5 2.5T 4WD rm107k

that is a lot of difference.

so far heard many news of diesel engine problem overseas, like Taiwan and UK. But rarely heard any issues with diesel engine for CX5 in Malaysia? not sure why? maybe our version already localised to be more durable?
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There are actually many cases, owners either changed engine or did a quick fix and sell off their CX5 diesel.

Like I said, if you die die want a CX-5, just get the 2.0 NA or 2.5NA, these 2 are very reliable. CX-5 petrol turbo is too thirsty and some are plagued with engine oil consumption issue.

If you really like diesel SUV, like I said yesterday, a Kia Sportage is so much more reliable and better.


In fact, to me diesel and SUV is a good match. The heavy body needs a lot of torque to move the car, horsepower is not that important, it's more the torque. That's why after using Sorento 2.2 diesel AWD for 5 years from 2018-2023, I yet changed to another Sorento 2.2 D tongue.gif

This post has been edited by 4WD_er: Feb 26 2025, 09:10 AM
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post Feb 26 2025, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Feb 26 2025, 09:09 AM)
There are actually many cases, owners either changed engine or did a quick fix and sell off their CX5 diesel.

Like I said, if you die die want a CX-5, just get the 2.0 NA or 2.5NA, these 2 are very reliable.  CX-5 petrol turbo is too thirsty and some are plagued with engine oil consumption issue.

If you really like diesel SUV, like I said yesterday, a Kia Sportage is so much more reliable and better.
In fact, to me diesel and SUV is a good match.  The heavy body needs a lot of torque to move the car, horsepower is not that important, it's more the torque.  That's why after using Sorento 2.2 diesel AWD for 5 years from 2018-2023, I yet changed to another Sorento 2.2 D  tongue.gif
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Actually I was looking at Sorento 2.2D first. Then was surprised to find out that CX5 diesel is actually quite cheap for used unit. Summor it is Japan brand with kodo design and zoom zoom. So thinking CX5 should be more reliable than Korean Sorento 2.2D.

Then go watch bobby review CX5. He was praising how revolutionary mazda made the skyactiv-D diesel engine, low compression ratio, quiet, lighter than petrol engine etc
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Feb 25 2025, 03:24 PM)
2020 cx5 2.2 diesel rm66k
2020 cx5 2.5T 4WD rm107k

that is a lot of difference.

so far heard many news of diesel engine problem overseas, like Taiwan and UK. But rarely heard any issues with diesel engine for CX5 in Malaysia? not sure why? maybe our version already localised to be more durable?
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If you understand Mandarin... CX-5 owner review

https://youtu.be/RuomJ1erirc?si=cC3FpcRLaCXoslOo
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post Feb 27 2025, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Feb 25 2025, 03:42 PM)
Is the 2.5T reliable?
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If you need to get a used car meaning you don't have enough cash. No need to ask for Diesel or Turbo because if anything happens you will not be willing to pay for a new engine because it will cost you as much as what you gonna pay now for the car. Just go get the decent petrol.
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Feb 26 2025, 01:55 PM)
Actually I was looking at Sorento 2.2D first. Then was surprised to find out that CX5 diesel is actually quite cheap for used unit. Summor it is Japan brand with kodo design and zoom zoom. So thinking CX5 should be more reliable than Korean Sorento 2.2D.

Then go watch bobby review CX5. He was praising how revolutionary mazda made the skyactiv-D diesel engine, low compression ratio, quiet, lighter than petrol engine etc
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I am 2.2D owner since 2018, still using now.

Yes, CX-5 2.2D engine is 1 of the best IMO, even compare to Bmw X5 diesel. The torque, smoothness etc.

But the diesel engine head blown is also truth, sweat.gif Happened to mine, still under warranty. I think around 89k km, 2 years ago.

My uncle also have the same 2.2D CX5, bought 9 months earlier than me. He has driven 140k km now, still no problem with his diesel engine.

If let me choose again, I will sacrifice the 'good' 2.2D and get 2.5 NA for my CX-5.
I have waited for 5 months. Warranty approval, all parts to come, swap engine and finally puspakom checking and JPJ to get new car grant cause different engine number.
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post Feb 27 2025, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(buffa @ Feb 27 2025, 06:11 PM)
I am 2.2D owner since 2018, still using now.

Yes, CX-5 2.2D engine is 1 of the best IMO, even compare to Bmw X5 diesel. The torque, smoothness etc.

But the diesel engine head blown is also truth,  sweat.gif Happened to mine, still under warranty. I think around 89k km, 2 years ago.

My uncle also have the same 2.2D CX5, bought 9 months earlier than me. He has driven 140k km now, still no problem with his diesel engine.

If let me choose again, I will sacrifice the 'good' 2.2D and get 2.5 NA for my CX-5.
I have waited for 5 months. Warranty approval, all parts to come, swap engine and finally puspakom checking and JPJ to get new car grant cause different engine number.
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Owner still need to fork out some cash for puspakom inspection, JPJ as new engine need endorsement right? How is it for the procedure, smooth? Last question what if the 1st blown happen after above 100k km, Bermaz will cover it under warranty?
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post Feb 27 2025, 09:09 PM

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2.5 NA - petrol consumption is pretty heavy. TBH I tot I was a torque head until I paid for petrol.
Especially for urban and heavy traffic.

In the highway 2.5 is fun, it’s got bottom end to go.
In town you will also suffer the harshness of accelerating hard to 5k rpm and above if you want it, it’s there.


I’ve tried the 2.2D and it’s really nicely done but if you stamp the pedal beware that 2wd does not have enough traction to avoid wheelspin.

Only 2.5T has 4wd and won’t wheelspin so easily.

Anyway the 2.5 is a good choice if you have any desires or plans to zoom about, and it’s good to know some form of zoom is always on tap.

Just know that you WILL pay 20-30% more fuel in almost any situation compared to 2.0. And RM800 of road tax no matter what.

Then the 2.5T will satisfy 95% of power needs except racing. And it will have even greater power bill. And tyre wear.
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post Feb 28 2025, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(buffa @ Feb 27 2025, 06:11 PM)
I am 2.2D owner since 2018, still using now.

Yes, CX-5 2.2D engine is 1 of the best IMO, even compare to Bmw X5 diesel. The torque, smoothness etc.

But the diesel engine head blown is also truth,  sweat.gif Happened to mine, still under warranty. I think around 89k km, 2 years ago.

My uncle also have the same 2.2D CX5, bought 9 months earlier than me. He has driven 140k km now, still no problem with his diesel engine.

If let me choose again, I will sacrifice the 'good' 2.2D and get 2.5 NA for my CX-5.
I have waited for 5 months. Warranty approval, all parts to come, swap engine and finally puspakom checking and JPJ to get new car grant cause different engine number.
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now considering sorento 2.2D or sportage 2.0D

for the same year car, sportage 2.0D is more expensive than the larger sorento 2.2D. Very strange.
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post Feb 28 2025, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Feb 28 2025, 12:14 AM)
now considering sorento 2.2D or sportage 2.0D

for the same year car, sportage 2.0D is more expensive than the larger sorento 2.2D. Very strange.
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Less demand for larger car in used market, ppl has the mentality that the larger Sorento drinks more diesel, which is true and not so true.

TRUE if you compare it with the smaller Sportage diesel

NOT TRUE because the engine is really efficient if looking at the engine size and car size, some sorento UM member can do 900-1000km on a tank of diesel. That is about 14-15km per L.

On my newer Sorento with new engine and DCT, I could even hit 23km/L on a short trip to Singapore, their expressway is really smooth & quiet, with the strict speed limit my FC was mind blowing. tongue.gif

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post Feb 28 2025, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Feb 27 2025, 08:13 PM)
Owner still need to fork out some cash for puspakom inspection, JPJ as new engine need endorsement right? How is it for the procedure, smooth? Last question what if the 1st blown happen after above 100k km, Bermaz will cover it under warranty?
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I cant really remember did I pay for the puspakom inspection or not. I waited for so long, I just wanted to get the car back asap.
IINM, puspakom part was really fast, they told me repair done, arranged for puspakom and next few day I went to JPJ to take new car grant.


QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 27 2025, 09:09 PM)
I’ve tried the 2.2D and it’s really nicely done but if you stamp the pedal beware that 2wd does not have enough traction to avoid wheelspin.

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Mine is 2wd only, wheelspin happen when turning out junction from stop + full pedal.
Rainy day or sands on the road + full pedal will wheelspin too. Other than that, it is very safe.
Stop to start acceleration straight line will not wheelspin.

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QUOTE(buffa @ Feb 28 2025, 11:31 AM)

Mine is 2wd only, wheelspin happen when turning out junction from stop + full pedal.
Rainy day or sands on the road + full pedal will wheelspin too. Other than that, it is very safe.
Stop to start acceleration straight line will not wheelspin.
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End of the day, if you are on straight line the torque is deliver at 200Nm per wheel. That is a LOT I say this as a good thing haha
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QUOTE(buffa @ Feb 28 2025, 11:31 AM)
I cant really remember did I pay for the puspakom inspection or not. I waited for so long, I just wanted to get the car back asap.
IINM, puspakom part was really fast, they told me repair done, arranged for puspakom and next few day I went to JPJ to take new car grant.
Mine is 2wd only, wheelspin happen when turning out junction from stop + full pedal.
Rainy day or sands on the road + full pedal will wheelspin too. Other than that, it is very safe.
Stop to start acceleration straight line will not wheelspin.
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You were very lucky, my buddy had his CX-5 2.2D FWD exceeding 100k km in 3-4 years. After that the blown gasket happened and Mazda quoted him a big sum for engine swap, no warranty claim possible despite him servicing in SC all the time.

He did a quick fix and just sold it off. And of course, he is happy that the used car dealer will be making a huge loss on that particular car.

He was considered lucky 3 years ago, because his CX-5 was the earlier batch of current model, and at that time the problem just started to happen (since his mileage was high). He could let it go at a very attractive price IIRC. Upgraded to a BMW X4.
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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Feb 28 2025, 12:00 PM)
You were very lucky, my buddy had his CX-5 2.2D FWD exceeding 100k km in 3-4 years.  After that the blown gasket happened and Mazda quoted him a big sum for engine swap, no warranty claim possible despite him servicing in SC all the time.

He did a quick fix and just sold it off.  And of course, he is happy that the used car dealer will be making a huge loss on that particular car.

He was considered lucky 3 years ago, because his CX-5 was the earlier batch of current model, and at that time the problem just started to happen (since his mileage was high).  He could let it go at a very attractive price IIRC.  Upgraded to a BMW X4.
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this is why I dislike the Bermaz 100k km mileage capped, when most other Brand can offer unlimited mileage warranty for Engine/GB for 5 years
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post Feb 28 2025, 12:56 PM

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Just saw a latest post on the blown off issue. And one of the comments in the post.


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having to drive 2.0NA almost entering 7 years now (since 2018) which has been a really reliable car, an upgrade is within the horizon, what SUV can match CX5 zoom zoom zappy through the city kind of feelings with automatic gb? appreciate any advice. how does an used lexus RX or GLC fare against dynamics of CX5?
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QUOTE(b0rhui @ Mar 9 2025, 02:47 AM)
having to drive 2.0NA almost entering 7 years now (since 2018) which has been a really reliable car, an upgrade is within the horizon, what SUV can match CX5 zoom zoom zappy through the city kind of feelings with automatic gb? appreciate any advice. how does an used lexus RX or GLC fare against dynamics of CX5?
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probably CX-60? not sure when mazda going to launch this, apparently it is in some showrooms already (one of it in PJ).
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QUOTE(b0rhui @ Mar 9 2025, 01:47 AM)
having to drive 2.0NA almost entering 7 years now (since 2018) which has been a really reliable car, an upgrade is within the horizon, what SUV can match CX5 zoom zoom zappy through the city kind of feelings with automatic gb? appreciate any advice. how does an used lexus RX or GLC fare against dynamics of CX5?
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BMW should gives better handling but reliability wise questionable.

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