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 Astro Version 13A, All about Astro Malaysia offerings

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Low Li Hao
post Mar 18 2023, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Mar 18 2023, 04:37 PM)
It is time for RTM channels to be added to all platforms for easier access.

And upgrade to HD for TV1/TV2 on the unifi platform.

RTM continues to forget Unifi viewers (no TV Okay, no HD!) I understand that certain sports may be blocked because of no rights (the rights only cover DTT and RTM Klik) but it is 2023!

Awesome TV and TVS are also guilty too for forgetting Unifi TV viewers!

SUKE TV has forgot both Astro and Unifi TV viewers.

It is not about cost, but making free to air channels available as widely to as many audience as possible! There should be a law making all free to air channels (on MYTV) to be available to all households, at its original form!
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SUKE TV still need some time to negotiate with Astro before they allow SUKE TV broadcast on their platform.

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post Mar 18 2023, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Low Li Hao @ Mar 18 2023, 08:40 PM)
SUKE TV still need some time to negotiate with Astro before they allow SUKE TV broadcast on their platform.
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Budak, I don’t need free tv to insert on Astro, it’s just wasting the bandwidth since you can watching it on MYTV platforms which is free. Astro need pay monthly fee.
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post Mar 18 2023, 10:44 PM

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Hey guys, Cable TV Hong Kong services will be terminated on June this year and BBC World News will be merged to BBC News on April.

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post Mar 18 2023, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(feed2doorsmhbm @ Mar 18 2023, 10:44 PM)
Hey guys, Cable TV Hong Kong services will be terminated on June this year and BBC World News will be merged to BBC News on April.

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For Cable TV Kong Kong, yes, you are right.
Btw, Astro is copy them style 50%, which is terminate account need through phone call.

Cable TV Hong Kong Will close shop also because lose the EPL broadcast right. Cable TV Hong Kong is back to the years also because monopoly EPL broadcast right.
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post Mar 19 2023, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Feliex @ Mar 18 2023, 10:07 PM)
Budak, I don’t need free tv to insert on Astro, it’s just wasting the bandwidth since you can watching it on MYTV platforms which is free. Astro need pay monthly fee.
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Well, putting free to air TV on Astro will guarantee a much wider reach for free to air channels, on both Astro and NJOI platforms. Viewers will be able to tune in easily. NJOI viewers will benefit the most because of additional choice. This is the case of Awesome TV which starts on MYTV DTT first before starting on Astro. Media Prima channels too.

QUOTE(feed2doorsmhbm @ Mar 18 2023, 10:44 PM)
Hey guys, Cable TV Hong Kong services will be terminated on June this year and BBC World News will be merged to BBC News on April.

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For Cable TV HK case, it is more to losing EPL sports rights. Their income has also been reducing as a result, and they decided to close their Cable TV business permanently.
They have recently making their news channel free to watch across the DTT platform via their broadcast TV subsidiary Fantastic TV and that had lead to speculation before that they will terminate their pay TV business, which is now a truth.

This situation has lead to monopoly of another pay TV service, NOW TV (owned by PCCW group, which also owns VIU) in Hong Kong. Despite the monopoly, they have to bid hard to keep their sports rights and there are a lot of competition these days, including Netflix, Disney+ and TVB's OTT streaming service MYTV Super (TVB has terminated their traditional pay TV business in 2017 and move into OTT delivery mode.)

As Feliex said, Cable TV is notorious for their service practices, which can be very hard to cancel. Someone had brought knife to one of their outlets and hurt some staff there just to be able to terminate their service!

For the case of BBC news services merger, it is a result to the long term severe budget cuts, that affect the BBC at a whole. They are also funding more services with the same licence fee over the years. The UK government had froze the licence fee for many years, forcing them to cut services in UK and abroad.

BBC also have to get creative to purchase the entirety of their commercial TV arm in UK (UKTV) by using cash, taking up debt, sold some channels and making deal with Discovery. UKTV generates substantial commercial income to fund the licence fee gap BBC had been faced in recent years.

Next year, BBC Four, CBBC and BBC Radio 4 Extra will close and moved online as a result and they had moved BBC Three to online before, only to be revived as a TV channel again recently last year.

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Mar 19 2023, 12:43 AM
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post Mar 19 2023, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Low Li Hao @ Mar 18 2023, 08:40 PM)
SUKE TV still need some time to negotiate with Astro before they allow SUKE TV broadcast on their platform.
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Astro would see if the viewership of the TV first...

If can bring good...

Then would have it at astro platform

It's all about the money 💰🤑
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post Mar 19 2023, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(shaun_kok @ Mar 18 2023, 04:37 PM)
It is time for RTM channels to be added to all platforms for easier access.

And upgrade to HD for TV1/TV2 on the unifi platform.

RTM continues to forget Unifi viewers (no TV Okay, no HD!) I understand that certain sports may be blocked because of no rights (the rights only cover DTT and RTM Klik) but it is 2023!

Awesome TV and TVS are also guilty too for forgetting Unifi TV viewers!

SUKE TV has forgot both Astro and Unifi TV viewers.

It is not about cost, but making free to air channels available as widely to as many audience as possible! There should be a law making all free to air channels (on MYTV) to be available to all households, at its original form!
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QUOTE(Low Li Hao @ Mar 18 2023, 08:40 PM)
SUKE TV still need some time to negotiate with Astro before they allow SUKE TV broadcast on their platform.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 19 2023, 08:54 AM)
Astro would see if the viewership of the TV first...

If can bring good...

Then would have it at astro platform

It's all about the money 💰🤑
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In my opinion, it's more like the other way round.
  • It is up to the channel provider (TV stations like TVS, Awesome TV, SUKE TV...) to pay hefty fees to the pay TV provider to carry their channel onto the platform.
  • Pay TV provider don't necessarily need FTA channels to survive. In most situations, it is the TV stations like RTM and Media Prima that wants their channels to be on pay TV provider (Astro) simply because to expand more audience reach, rather than solely relying on either MYTV digital TV platform or RTMklik/Tonton.
  • The main reason pay TV providers exists is to provide premium paid TV content to subscribers, instead of "provide easy access" of FTA channels to the public, plus they are not obligated to do so, same goes to Unifi TV.
It's true that having the convenience of able to access FTA stations on a pay TV platform is great, but not everyone is keen to that idea.

There are countries out there that has laws where pay TV providers is mandatory to carry certain percentage of national FTA TV stations onto the platform. Whether the Malaysian government would do the same in the future, that remains to be seen.
But if you ask me, I don't think it's going to happen la...
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post Mar 22 2023, 01:40 PM

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What is the minimum TV needed for ulti/ultra box?
I got a 15 years old normal LED TV, 720P
Trying ask installer change to new box, he say maybe not support such old tv

Astro faq no mention

Think to change as now old astro box, fan very loud, like PC CPU USAGE overload, fan speed 100% all the time, and many normal channel no more

This post has been edited by PJng: Mar 22 2023, 01:42 PM
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post Mar 22 2023, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 22 2023, 01:40 PM)
What is the minimum TV needed for ulti/ultra box?
I got a 15 years old normal LED TV, 720P
Trying ask installer change to new box, he say maybe not support such old tv

Astro faq no mention

Think to change as now old astro box, fan very loud, like PC CPU USAGE overload, fan speed 100% all the time, and many normal channel no more
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HDCP 2.x-compliant
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post Mar 22 2023, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 22 2023, 01:40 PM)
What is the minimum TV needed for ulti/ultra box?
I got a 15 years old normal LED TV, 720P
Trying ask installer change to new box, he say maybe not support such old tv

Astro faq no mention

Think to change as now old astro box, fan very loud, like PC CPU USAGE overload, fan speed 100% all the time, and many normal channel no more
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The new box is HDCP 2.x compliance. So if connect to old TV which is normally non compliance just because the standard has not been established yet, then you will have problem. Read here

https://www.howtogeek.com/208917/htg-explai...-how-to-fix-it/
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post Mar 22 2023, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Mar 22 2023, 02:27 PM)
HDCP 2.x-compliant
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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 22 2023, 02:42 PM)
The new box is HDCP 2.x compliance. So if connect to old TV which is normally non compliance just because the standard has not been established yet, then you will have problem. Read here

https://www.howtogeek.com/208917/htg-explai...-how-to-fix-it/
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Just google search, no mention HDCP version
I think old tv no HDCP 2.0, tv that older that 2010

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47175533

Whatever i google searh anything, will come back to lyn

This post has been edited by PJng: Mar 22 2023, 03:04 PM
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post Mar 22 2023, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 22 2023, 02:47 PM)
Just google search, no mention HDCP version
I think old tv no HDCP 2.0, tv that older that 2010

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47175533

Whatever i google searh anything, will come back to lyn
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my ex-TV Sharp 2012 of mesolithic age also no HDCP2.x.
your one from 2010 is definitely from older paleolithic era.
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post Mar 22 2023, 11:44 PM

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just checking some cheap full hd tv, no mention HDCP version
but check those smart tv got mention HDCP 2.2
temporary ignore util ultra box
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post Mar 23 2023, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 22 2023, 01:40 PM)
What is the minimum TV needed for ulti/ultra box?
I got a 15 years old normal LED TV, 720P
Trying ask installer change to new box, he say maybe not support such old tv

Astro faq no mention

Think to change as now old astro box, fan very loud, like PC CPU USAGE overload, fan speed 100% all the time, and many normal channel no more
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Is it Sharp branded TV? What is the model number of your old TV?
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post Mar 23 2023, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Mar 22 2023, 02:47 PM)
Just google search, no mention HDCP version
I think old tv no HDCP 2.0, tv that older that 2010

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47175533

Whatever i google searh anything, will come back to lyn
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If 720p tv for sure not compliant

But IIRC the box itself would only be in HDCP 2.2 mode if you set it to 4K. It will fall back to HDCP 1.X if you set it to 1080p. So a normal 1080p TV should be able to work with the box.
The people who have issues are the ones that has 4K TV's but HDCP lower than 2.2, which means they can't use the 4K capabilities of the box. If you are just using it for 1080p, then it should be fine

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Mar 23 2023, 12:50 AM)
Is it Sharp branded TV? What is the model number of your old TV?
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Already post link model from lyn

Panasonic VIERA TH-L32C4K
QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 23 2023, 09:34 AM)
If 720p tv for sure not compliant

But IIRC the box itself would only be in HDCP 2.2 mode if you set it to 4K. It will fall back to HDCP 1.X if you set it to 1080p. So a normal 1080p TV should be able to work with the box.
The people who have issues are the ones that has 4K TV's but HDCP lower than 2.2, which means they can't use the 4K capabilities of the box. If you are just using it for 1080p, then it should be fine
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Installer say worry no image, did not proccess it
No need 4k content, just not sure 720p astro box got display or not
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post Mar 23 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 23 2023, 09:34 AM)
If 720p tv for sure not compliant

But IIRC the box itself would only be in HDCP 2.2 mode if you set it to 4K. It will fall back to HDCP 1.X if you set it to 1080p. So a normal 1080p TV should be able to work with the box.
The people who have issues are the ones that has 4K TV's but HDCP lower than 2.2, which means they can't use the 4K capabilities of the box. If you are just using it for 1080p, then it should be fine
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I believe it does not matter. The box is looking for HDCP compliance. It is waiting for handshake. If no response, no picture passes through even if the content is not 4k.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 23 2023, 10:29 AM)
I believe it does not matter. The box is looking for HDCP compliance. It is waiting for handshake. If no response, no picture passes through even if the content is not 4k.
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When you first set up the box, you are given the choice to set it to ouput either 1080p or 4K. Choose 1080p and the box won't look for HDCP 2.2. I know because I used a non 4K TV with HDCP 1.4 to first set up the box at my office when it first arrived.

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 23 2023, 10:54 AM)
When you first set up the box, you are given the choice to set it to ouput either 1080p or 4K. Choose 1080p and the box won't look for HDCP 2.2. I know because I used a non 4K TV with HDCP 1.4 to first set up the box at my office when it first arrived.
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That is because the HDCP 2.2 is not backward compatible to HDCP v1.x, not even with 2.0 or 2.1 as far as I know. Your TV has HDCP v1.x at least. My previous point was about HD TV with no HDCP chip at all (ancient - whether if any existed). I believe it will not work. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 23 2023, 11:25 AM)
That is because the HDCP 2.2 is not backward compatible to HDCP v1.x, not even with 2.0 or 2.1 as far as I know. Your TV has HDCP v1.x at least. My previous point was about HD TV with no HDCP chip at all (ancient - whether if any existed). I believe it will not work.  hmm.gif
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Makes sense.

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