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post Mar 11 2020, 12:39 PM

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One problem here : Since Astro is moving their LCNs, why not standardise the LCN of NTV7 (which will move from 107 to 147) , 8TV (channel 708) and TV9 (channel 119) to a single LCN as seen on Unifi TV and MYTV (107,108,109), instead using channels 147, 148 and 149 instead and give the most important LCNs to Astro's rojak channels Warna, Citra and Naura??? This give additional confusion to viewers instead. The LCN for TV1, TV2, TV3 and TV Alhijrah is the same for all TV platforms. And also why move Public service channel TV OKEY to a lower LCN spot (109 to 146)?

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post Mar 11 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Mar 11 2020, 12:46 PM)
Good question. I was wondering the same thing too.
I think it is better that they allocate a range of LCN numbers to use exclusively for FTA TV stations to be used across multiple different TV platforms. Meaning, all DTT, Astro and Unifi TV, as well as any new pay TV providers to use the same LCN number, so that won't have different LCN across different platforms. I have no idea what Astro is thinking. Create public confusion is their goal now?

Out of a sudden, 146 until 149 for TV Okey, NTV7, 8TV and TV9.
Is it because they see that this channels has low viewership, so they don't care much and put those channels numbers to far behind?
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Even if these channels don't have good viewership, these channels doesn't and never deserve lower LCNs on both Astro and Njoi, especially when these channels are available universally across all platforms.

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post Mar 12 2020, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Mar 12 2020, 10:00 AM)
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https://quake.com.my/happening/359-first-in...ia-regional-ads

I think Astro got an idea already.... regional targeted ads
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This mean at least 2 TV feeds for these following channels: Hua Hee Dai, AEC, Wah Lai Toi (to be closed), Prima, Warna and Citra if Astro wants to do regional targetted ads that can be only seen in Northern region and East Coast region.

In the UK, ITV sends 18 SD and 11 HD feeds (due to capacity issues not all feeds are available in HD) on satellite for a single channel for regional news service, localised advertising and allowing some variation for regional programming(It isn't too much nowadays if compare to the past since the ITV channels now have the same programming during primetime). Channel 4 sends 6 SD feeds and 1 HD feed (again due to capacity issues) on satellite for advertising proposes even it is a national channel without program variations.

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post Mar 12 2020, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Mar 12 2020, 11:42 AM)
🤔, this means that Astro is cutting down on their in-house channels( such as Astro WLT) to make up for the cost of having different feed?

I wonder is the feed delivered via which area physically it's located or it uses registered address
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Maybe, as different feed is necessary for regional advertising. The delivered feed is likely based on the registered/installation address as you will need to give an address when you are installing Astro/NJOI service at your home. This concept is not new for Astro, as they had been selling regional spots on their radio stations for some time, even having local stations for Sabah and Sarawak.

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post Jun 1 2020, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Jun 1 2020, 05:52 AM)
Still in SD. Yup they use same channel number for HD and SD. But how come they not uss this system earlier?
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I wonder why Astro is giving confusion on channel numbers when Astro have absolute control of their set top boxes. First the inconsistent channel numbers of some FTA/DTT channels (which government should
make legislation to make all platforms having the same channel numbers for FTA channels regardless of platform, like the Thais had done), then giving separate channel numbers for HD and SD versions of the same channel during the major channel shake up on 1 April if Astro is going to launch a HD channel with the same number as SD channel later.
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post Jun 2 2020, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 2 2020, 10:43 AM)
I believe the same number channel are just numbers mapped to channels. It is just that Astro can set HD tuner to receive only HD program and the SD, by nature, can only see SD channel.

The reason Astro cannot eliminate the SD channel is that not all TV in use now are capable of receiving HD. I think even in the US there are still SD program available.  smile.gif
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SD channels cannot be eliminated is not caused by TV sets but legacy set top boxes in case of Astro, which some are yet to change.

Due to the fears on losing subscribers and viewers, TV operators (free and pay) across the world are still maintaining SD channels using the more than 2 decades old MPEG-2 SD codec. Some countries still have analogue cable TV and satellite TV (Brazil). HD (H.264/MPEG-4 in Astro's case) channels can be received as long as the tuner has the appropriate codec to receive HD channels. HD quality channels, however would be displayed as SD quality if connected using RCA (3 colour) cables.

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post Mar 26 2021, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(surrodox2001 @ Mar 26 2021, 08:25 PM)
for Mediaprima, not sure they'll output all in Hd bc they haven't broadcast all of them in hd at dtt yet...
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As far as I know, Media Prima's playout system has been HD capable since Aug 2017 (Sri Pentas)/unknown date (Glenmarie). It is just that Media Prima chooses not to offer these channels in HD. It could be watched in HD quality (720p) on tonton but it is the standard SD 576i on others.

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post Mar 26 2021, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(weareblahs @ Mar 26 2021, 11:07 PM)
Well, MYTV Broadcasting (commonly known as myFreeview) has TV3 and 8TV on HD - so we still have hope to see some of the Media Prima channels become HD on Astro.
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Obviously this was the case when Media Prima moves to HD playout back then (where these channels can be watched in HD mode exclusively on tonton but not on broadcast platforms), but not nowadays.

Hope that we will see this to be happen on Astro one day, especially Media Prima channels can be now accessed in HD quality in other platforms (Unifi TV, Tonton, MYTV for TV3 and 8TV).

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post Apr 21 2021, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Fazrien97 @ Apr 21 2021, 05:35 AM)
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This is like a total downgrade for NJOI viewers.
I totally cannot understand the logic of Astro asking for paying for channels that are available in SD (which are free) in HD quality. This will simply push more people to MYTV DTT platform and abandon Astro completely.

And laughingly, Astro wants to compare their now downgraded NJOI offering with Sirius TV (new provider) and also the free MYTV when the DTT platform has TV1, TV2, TV3, 8TV, TVS and TV Alhijrah (TVAH has poor HD Quality) in HD.

Even Unifi TV (playtv) offering, which is bundled to most Unifi Fiber Broadband customers, is better than this.

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post Apr 21 2021, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 21 2021, 11:54 AM)
seems like astro trying "forcing" Njoi users to Full Paying subscribers of B.yond or Ultra-box  tongue.gif
u want more Indian content, subscribe to Value Pack  biggrin.gif
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This is more like chasing potential customers away. People are already complaining the high costs of Astro services. This is the first reason why people are converting to NJOI. With such business model Astro will continue to lose more money and get very little customers. The people who are "creative" thinking of this business model should be fired.

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post Apr 21 2021, 05:52 PM

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Here are my complement on the NJOI offering

Comparsion of old and new NJOI offering

Old
30 TV channels (6 HD) + 20 radio channels
11 Free to air channels (channels available on MYTV myFreeview, all in SDTV format except Awesome TV)
3 Go shop channels (TV Shopping)
3 Educational channels (Tutor TV)
NJOI TV (barker channel)
12 in house/foreign TV channels (in SDTV format)

New
18 TV channels (4 HD) + 20 radio channels
11 Free to air channels (channels available on MYTV myFreeview, all in SDTV format except Awesome TV*)
3 Go shop channels (TV Shopping)
3 Educational channels (Tutor TV)
NJOI TV (barker channel)

* In this case, TV1, TV2 and TVS are available as HD format for Astro customers. However, it is available in SD format for NJOI customers.


What are similar in both offerings?
- Viewers can still purchase their prepaid channels via the same method
- 11 free to air channels (i.e. those also available on MYTV myFreeview) remain accessible for free
- No change on radio offerings
- Installation fee remain the same (RM379)

What are different on the new offering when compared to the old offering?
- 12 in house/foreign channels are now available in HD format (except CCM and Makkal TV), however in the new offering, a charge of RM15/30 days will be imposed
- No longer an attractive offering when compared to its competitiors (MYTV myFreeview/Unifi TV pay TV service, bundled for most Unifi Broadband customers for free)

Meanwhile, the picture below is the actual comparison of three services (accurate on the time of posting):

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post Apr 21 2021, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Apr 21 2021, 11:03 PM)
Okay.... Astro TVIQ channel now apparently, has Go Shop product placement slot too.  biggrin.gif
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"Do you want to be healthy, smart and strong? Then you need Vitamin C!"
That host, even uses kids friendly voice tone to talk and interact with the 2 children as what you saw on the screenshot...
So now they target on children products, on a "kids learning" channel, Astro TVIQ?
So, does it means we will see Go Shop product placements on children related products on Astro Ceria and Astro Xiao Tai Yang in the future as well?
Very nice lah.  thumbup.gif

If I am a kid watching that, and I want to be healthy, smart, and strong, I would convince my parents to buy that yummy Vitamin C gummies.

Children are easily convinced, you see....
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Well, this is the reason why advertising mainly targeted to children is banned in some countries as children are so easily convinced.

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post Apr 27 2021, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 27 2021, 03:42 PM)
Disney Shutting Down 18 Cable Channels In Southeast Asia And Hong Kong From 1 October 2021

Disney is closing 18 channels in Southeast Asia and Hong Kong starting 1 October 2021. This marks the end of an era for the company who has a huge entertainment supply chain in the region.

Geek Culture understands that employees were informed about the closure earlier today in Singapore.

The 18 channels closing down in Southeast Asia and Hong Kong after more than two decades are entertainment channels Fox, Fox Crime, Fox Life and FX;
movie channels Fox Action Movies, Fox Family Movies, Fox Movies and Star Movies China;
sports channel Fox Sports, Fox Sports 2, Fox Sports 3, Star Sports 1, Star Sports 2;
kids channel Disney Channel and Disney Junior;
factual services Nat Geo People and SCM Legend.


The decision to close these 18 channels is so that the company can focus on its direct-to-consumer (D2C) streaming model. Only 4 channels made the cut to D2C: Star Chinese Channel, Star Chinese Movies, National Geographic Channel and Nat Geo Wild.

Whilst the move may not be a shock to many, it leaves some questions for consumers of sports content. Fox’s sports channels include the rights to major sports events including Formula One, Australia Open, U.S. Open, Wimbledon and French Open. It is unclear what Disney plans to do for its sports consumers, though rumours suggest that the company may be working towards a D2C sports environment to address this issue.

Pay-TV platforms, such as SingTel Mio and Starhub, will have a giant hole to fill in their line-up. Likewise, consumers who subscribe to pay-TV platforms for access to these 18 channels may have to revise their subscription.

With many Disney staff impacted by the closure, the company has come up with a new staffing structure and unfortunately, let some employees go including Singapore-based marketing head Daniel Tan, Asia-Pacific head of marketing for studio marketing Shoba Martin and Tom Batchelor. Batchelor previously held the positions of VP of studio operations, theatrical and Disney+ content localisation and live entertainment, and Asia-Pacific VP music Southeast Asia. Disney has yet to disclose how many people will be leaving the company as a result of the closure.

Going forward, Fox Network Group content executive Michael Dick is now put in charge of D2C acquisition for the region as well as channels for Southeast Aisa, including Indonesia. Andy Baek has been tipped as head of media networks for Indonesia/Southeast Asia, Hong Kong and Taiwan, with a dual role in direct-to-consumer programming business and Karan Paul, who is currently head of business transformation has been named head of D2Cbusiness operations.

“As part of The Walt Disney Company’s global effort to pivot towards a D2Cfirst model and further grow our streaming services, the company is consolidating its Media Networks business primarily in Southeast Asia and Hong Kong. These efforts will help us align our resources more efficiently and effectively to current and future business needs,” said Disney in a statement announcing the closure to employees earlier this morning.

The company’s D2Cstreaming platform, Disney+, first arrived in Singapore in February this year.

https://geekculture.co/disney-shutting-down...1-october-2021/
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Seriously too premature to close sport channels.

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post Jun 6 2021, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jun 5 2021, 11:56 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/sookamalaysia/about
It says:
The Malay language used in the description is way too casual lingua franca... For non-Malaysians who are reading this thread, basically this is the rough translation:
- catch the best LIVE sports actions events in one place...
- stream the first episode of series or selected movies for free, and many more...
- lots of free shows but you'll have to pay for sports content...
- promotional price of RM15.90 for VIP...


Backup (in case the post got deleted):
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Stream 33 selected matches of the UEFA Euro 2020 for free on Sooka, or subscribe to VIP+Sports to stream all 51 UEFA Euro 2020 matches.

Hmm, what you guys think?  hmm.gif
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That should be interesting. Seems like Sooka will be the home of Astro programs for non Astro subscribers. There were apps available in the past (such as NJOI Now) but unfortunately, terminated by Astro as it was unprofitable.
The existing strategy sends non-Astro customers into pirate sites for their doses of Astro content.
Going to download it soon to see what's there.

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post Jun 8 2021, 04:23 AM

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Based on what I seen in Sooka, the content availablity (for entertainment) is quite limited at the moment. Most of the contents are Astro in house productions, with some foreign productions. There are currently 144 movies (as I counted) for this platform, mostly also Astro production.

The amount of live channels available is quite limited at this stage especially when compared to Astro Go or even NJOI NOW (which has long ceased to exist) although the platform has the better access for sport content, which is a PLUS for Sooka as Astro currently has the access to many sport events.

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post Jun 10 2021, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(indran1412 @ Jun 10 2021, 04:40 PM)
Hi guys, I can't find sooka on my Chromecast with Google tv. It's not compatible with it?
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It is not currently compatible but Sooka aims to support Android TV and Smart TV in the future.
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post Jul 10 2021, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(weareblahs @ Jul 9 2021, 02:35 PM)
Astro's minimum requirements for the IPTV Plug & Play mode is 10Mbps Internet for Full HD, which I can safely assume that the bitrate of the 1080i channels on IPTV Plug & Play are below 6Mbps (if Astro uses VBR encoding / CRF encoding for these channels*). They could be using adaptive streaming (which, technically, they put all the stream information into a MPEG-DASH manifest file) - so depending on your Internet speed, the quality will come out worse when you switch to that channel, then gradually increases the quality of the channel.
* Bitrate less than 1Mbps on 1080p feed is automatically applied on scenes / frames with less detail or still images, or mostly black / white color, and bitrate more than 4Mbps is mostly used on scenes / frames with high detail.

What I know about the IPTV Plug & Play technical details is HD / SD channels uses H264, and Astro UHD / Astro SuperSports UHD uses HEVC. HDR / HLG data is decoded through metadata. The UHD channels uses bitrates like Netflix (or other streaming services that uses 4K).
Astro GO's Audio bitrate is 40 Kbps HE-AAC, which I can also assume that they use Astro GO's Audio Stream to save bandwidth. Ultra / Ulti Box uses the same backend application with Astro GO (which is Cisco IVP).

For your information: unifi TV (the playtv@unifi feed) uses 3500Kbps CBR (Same bitrate when streaming) on 1080p live feeds, and 128Kbps Audio (2 times better than Astro), which is quite better than Astro GO. Some channels on unifi TV uses "fake HD" feeds, such as DW English, Star Chinese Channel and more.
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The more ridiculous is even the online streaming feeds of terrestrial TV stations (not MYTV terrestrial TV) has better audio quality than the Astro Go.
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post Jul 10 2021, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Jul 10 2021, 02:52 PM)
Higher bandwidth = more cost
Therefore, the lower the bitrate, the better.

Lesson learned: At the end of the day, it's all about money
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Even when they need to save money, they can at least use 48kbps HE-AAC V2 (global standard) and not awkward 40kbps, if low bitrates is really necessary.

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post Aug 11 2021, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Aug 11 2021, 12:17 PM)
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Just realized Awani livestream on the site is much better quality over AOTG and 501 one.
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The picture quality should be excellent and exciting with such bitrate! Perhaps Astro is doing tests for their stream?
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post Mar 1 2022, 10:02 PM

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For TV Alhijrah, their HD quality is quite blurry even during 2014/15. It is presumed that something has been wrong that made 1080i broadcast looks like a SD 576i upscale. (it looks similar to some 8TV programmes which are still in SD). Those Go Shop and WOW Shop programmes looks much inferior on Alhijrah than those shown on Astro/myFreeview Goshop 120/TV3/8TV.

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