p/s: just survey only why ppl still support pirated cd/dvd even some local distributor start selling cheap price original cd/dvd games.

buy during dai kam ka la.....i mean discount time....like u buy branded cloth sure at megasales time....who ask u buy at 1st time there launch....(sry all distributor dun flame me just a small idea/comment)

Attn: No Discrimination here (whether u rich/poor) plz do respect ppl feeling.
Reason: This page is about Against Pirated CD/DVD and why ppl still support it, plz dun out off topic.

Sry, i'm not flaming any1 here but i still follow the rules that make by owner of this forum.

This post has been edited by alzert: Apr 3 2007, 04:30 PM

because we despise original suppliers

all those cheap CD / DVD are not up to the standard of Pirated ones, means pirated CD/DVD has more to offer than originals.

for example, after i bought the original Need forr speed most wanted, not long after its lauch, they come up with nedd for speed most wanted "black edition".... W T F !!!! if you gonna publish them, just publish them in one shot lah, why release 2 times ? you want me buy 2 copies ? no way !!!

This post has been edited by 9876789: Apr 2 2007, 12:33 AM

IIRC, both Most Wanted editions came out at the same time, so I don't know where you got that from.

because i like ninjas more than the malaysia goverment

im poor and i prefer a quarter pounder large set @ mcd rather than just a 12 cm in diameter shiny plastic sheet..

If latest original game DVD is around RM40-50 ... then maybe i'll consider to buy original ...

Yeah, i not a pirated supporter but sometimes those "original" stuff make us feel like crap. Like the MS office 2007 for RM800 just a product key without any CD media inside. Comon lah MR Bill earn so many already still wanna save the cost of a single CD? Not 2 mention we bought it at RM800 for just a DVD box lookalike and some useless guide inside.

Edit: For Games, i hope the demo launch 1st b4 the games official launch so tat we can test the game b4 buy it. Not 2 say if possible reduce the price to RM50+, guess most of us will start move over to ORIGINAL

This post has been edited by splinter: Apr 2 2007, 01:45 AM

Firstly, it's because not everyone can afford to fork out RM100+ for an original game.

Also, it's hard to find a shop that sells originals...

I can attest to that since I had a problem finding out where to buy original games when I wanted to buy Battlefield 2 ! >_<

cheap price original dvd/cd game? where got?
i only play the sims 2, where got cheap original dvd/cd?
original one RM100+, chap lanun can get RM15 for dvd, better yet, can download via torrent also can get all la
why waste money for original?
lol

Medieval 2 Total War :RM145
Battlefield 2: RM107
Battlefield 2142: RM79

Total: RM309

And i'm planning to get STALKER and ET:QW next.

CnC3 Kane Edition: Free
NFS Carbon : Free

Two games FOC!

Of course i'd rather have it all cheap or free but i can't.

This post has been edited by Aoshi_88: Apr 2 2007, 08:55 AM

Battlefield 2 Deluxe Edition : RM159
Battlefield 2142 + Northern Strike : RM154

The satisfaction of fragging people online : Priceless !

this kind of topic been discussed dunno how many million times already. it is getting boring. and TS, u already stated the main reasons yourself.

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i buy both, Original and Jack Sparrow's, but seriously...buying original i feel like, every penny we spent worth...errr...certain game - online BF2 series, not a single player game

ah, a never ending quest to rid piracy out of Malaysia.

From a consumer's stand point, it's undeniably affordable and with so many choices at low prices. you can play anything u want, but can you really play everything?

From a developer/publisher's point of view, these products must pay for salaries and of course, intellectually property. no matter how expensive it is, it's their right to charge whatever price they want. it was their property at the end.

so if u can't afford everything, just but what you want. not only do you enjoy the game more, you appreciate it more and remember it in the later years.

reviews exist to help consumers choose, so read more, go buy PC Gamer Malaysia!

like myself, i can't frigging remember what i bought and i finished, then don't appreciate what i played till i stopped and started being selective.

in Singapore, i saw this anti-piracy campaign slogan: piracy kills creativity. simply put: do you see any good Jackie Chan or Chow Sing Chi or Chow Yun Fatt movies anymore? NO! it's because they got tired of making movies that don't pay their salary.

remember, just buy what you want, you can't have everything in this world. choose what you want to play and you'll start enjoying your games more than before.

my comments to posts above:

just consider? then Malaysia has a long way to go in combating piracy.

remember, you're paying for what you use and not some silly box. do u use the box? or the software installed in your PC?

hmm, this has always been a mystery to me. there are a number of shops that sell originals, even them Low Yat shop has.

FYI, Mid Valley, One Utama, Summit USJ, Digital Mall, Sunway Pyramid and The Curve all carry original games now. maybe not all the games but they have originals there.

i will buy original game if the game has many ppl playing online
eg, bf2, cs
but one piece of game for rm100+ is too much for me as i 'm still a student and i need to save for months to get one

I hope they can lower the price to something like RM50-60 per game.

Trying to get original games to be RM50-80 is quite fair to ask for but unless we are able to curb piracy to a greater deal...... we have to stick to the RM100+ per original game........ one side has to make a move and its the consumer's side.........

One thing people have to learn about original games is to TREASURE IT....... make sure you REALLY WANT it and then PLAY it for ALL its worth...... because of how cheap the games are from piracy, we tend to take things for granted, how many of you have gone "This game sucks, but oh well, its only like RM5".......

Some people complain certain games have little people playing it online..... well what do you expect when people have little attention span on a game, since they don't have the incentive (which is the high amount paid for the game) to continue on....... incentive, like World of Warcraft, one of the reason why people keep playing it is cause they have PUMPED money in it, so if they don't play, they feel like they're wasting the money, so might as well SQUEEZE as much as I can from it.......

I bought my bf2 but i feel like the developer like EA jz wan to fish our money.
Instead of bringing finished products to consumers, they release something like beta version of the game. This is also one of the reason i don support ori.
Another example is stalker, luckily i din have original.. The game has many bugs inside that u cant believe although so much yrs of waiting.. they still release a buggy games..

Here's an interesting question. If piracy was wiped out totally, would the people that bought pirated games in the past revert to using originals? Or would they just give up playing games?

Dude,Stalker is not an easy game to make.This game have one of the most complex AI i have ever seen and it's not easy to make it work without bugs.

For me,i'll buy an ori game whenever i can,especially big games with mods like DC or C&C3.Planning to get C&C3 by mid of this year and DoW sequel(if theres any) at the end of the year.Maybe Hellgate in between if i got money left.

Save whenever you can,it's not that hard.Dont support piracy.Piracy kills games and you have to understand how much time a game developer put into a game,not matter how broken is it.

B..U..Y..?

WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF THIS MYTHICAL WORD?????????

as long as u dun buy every single game that are release every mnth i think supporting ori shouldn't be a problem. i onli buy ori for games that i feel worth supporting and that i'll play from start to finish, otherwise i won't buy it not even jack sparrow version.
some games are collected into a single package together with their expansion after a period of time, these are worth buying as its very much cheaper thn getting them separately. like i got Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War Anthology for 130+ (discount from TSB) that's onli 40+ per game as there are 3 games in there. normal price is rm180, which is still cheap

i believe they WILL buy
problem is no matter what the govt do...they still cant totally wipe it (piracy) out.

another interesting question (to those who smoke): how much do you spend for ciggies per month?
every year govt raise up the money for it...but still they buy.

but not for ori game....

This post has been edited by karwaidotnet: Apr 2 2007, 08:21 PM

[sarcasm]I'm so fcuking rich. That's why I buy original games hahahaha! Die you poor scum! You can only buy pirates? Nyek nyeek nyek![/sarcasm]

and what's the release stuff got to do with piracy? it looks to me that you're just plain dumb about releases.

Black Edition was released same time as the standard edition.

same goes to C&C3 where Kane Edition and standard edition are released together.

i know. cos i ordered the NFS:MW Black Edition and C&C:3 Kane Edition. it came same time as the standard edition.

dude, it's the people that drive RM 100k++ cars and using 8800GTX running SLI with high powered PSU and RM 1k+++ processors that frequently are complaining original games being expensive.

heck you don't have to buy EVERY game that comes to the market. i buy less than 5 games a year, this year itself 2 only.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Apr 2 2007, 09:18 PM

Yea, agree wit ya, but still if u buy a car, would u buy it because it comfortable and powerfull but without the "look"? Wad i mean is not because of the silly box, is the "CD media" it self. I cant imagine tat i spent RM800 for something tat cant even provide me a single 50cent CD media with it. Do remember if i format my system, how can i install back? Sometimes getting original bring us even worse!.

So i will say i only choose thing that worth to buy.

This post has been edited by splinter: Apr 2 2007, 10:29 PM

if u guys watched blood diamond , with leo dicaprio in it, cheap pirated dvd and cds fund terrorism, indirectly, all the money all used up in internal warfare.

then again, if we pay full retail dollar, it pays the salary of the workers in the united states. unless they are willing to release a local version, which is the same as local dollar to dollar price sold in the USA, e.g. selling price in USA, USD 25, sold here, RM25, thats fair and reasonable, since it comes with nice packaging and installation guide and manual. but then again, our asian cheap version would be parallel imported overseas too, so i guess none of this will happen

Lets be realistic here. How many of us actually, honestly buy original game just for the sake of supporting developers? Next to none I'd say..

Most people buy original game due to the attraction of being able to play online, promising mods and so on. The thing here is the reward a consumer will get for spending a huge chunk on games.

A real fan of Unreal Tournament or Battlefield game would not think twice to buy its original copy, since using pirated ones will make it almost useless anyway without online capabilities. But breaking our wallet for a single player game with no mode and online capability, its hard to do...

Furthermore, games are priced at price that is OK for developed countries like US, Europe and Japan. But bringing that price here to our country, it cost a bomb...

This post has been edited by Hornet: Apr 2 2007, 11:48 PM

We WANT everything but NOT willing to give anything.........

in singapore and thailand, original entertainment disc come out with affordable price, an ori CnC3 in SG just costs from S$52... when it converted to USD, its almost the same as the price sold in US. This perhaps have to blame on weak RM. Want a localised EA games? which company has such a strong financial basis to persuade those EA boss?

why in malaysia everything got to be freaking expensive? from tolls, cars, home appliances, tolls and cars are obviously overcharged

Oh do tell what bonuses do you get with the pirated version that the original ones don't have? Is it that tiny sheet of paper that is created by the pirates themselves? Wow, I can't believe they're so creative!

Anyway, the issue about NFSMW has been beaten to death by other forumers here. What I'm interested in is this:
Based on your earlier point that pirated versions have more to offer and then you point out how the "Black" version of NFSW was released after the original, which is the version that has more stuff than the normal one, are you implying that the Black edition is the "special edition" made by pirates?

Wait, so you're so cheap that you can't even afford the pirated game DVDs? Man... you're cheap, but at least you don't support the pirates (Financially at least... I'm ignoring the other possibility for now)

If you've read any review of Stalker, I'm pretty sure every one of them points out that it is indeed buggy. If you had read those reviews, you would've known it was buggy and not waste your money on it.

But, instead, you get a pirated version and then have the audacity to b**** about the fact that its buggy and use that as ammo for not supporting originals.

Its like saying "Hey, since a Proton Wira has shoddy workmanship, its therefore perfectly fine for me to steal the car since they asked for it by doing a bad job"

*raises hand*

On "some" occasions at least, I bought a game usually based on the name alone, regardless of original exclusives and so forth.

Me. I buy Winning Eleven Series PC version originals because i want to support Konami efforts in making these great football games!!
However, i also play pirated copies on my PS2

Too expensive. For a country like us, where the percentage of tax increases as your wages increases, tax everywhere, tax used on meaningless things and low wages, we can't possibly buy games everyday, can we?

Yeah, like Hornet says, it costs a bomb.

Your analogy is sorta wrong here:

(1) Jackie Chan is old and has been having too much fun in Hollywood where the pay is good and the work is less. That's why you see all the shitty Jackie Chan Hollywood bombs the last few years. Without a good HK director like Stanley Tong (Police Story 3, possibly the best police story ever), Jackie Chan is not the Jackie of yesteryear already.
Anyway, he's too friggin old already, and he made too many shitty movies to smear his own image in the last few years.(while making mega bucks compared to HK salary, no doubt).

(2) Chow Sing Chi still makes great movies. Now that he's slowly moving to Hollywood, but the difference is, he do it on his own terms. His movies are still very much HK style with the backing of Hollywood production and budget. Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle are worthy films of it's genre. It just that he cuts down on quantity and stick to quality. Stephen Chow is also script writer/director/producer. So you can only expect a movie every few years. Thumbs up for Stephen Chow!

(3) Fatty Chow@Chow Yuen Fatt is also old and fat and not getting much jobs from Hollywood. So far his Hollywood movies are mostly forgetable. He may be big in HK but in the West, he's just a fat old Chinese guy trying to make a dent in the industry.
At least Jackie Chan and Jet Li have a niche market with their martial art skills. But CYF has nothing. In terms of acting, there are gazillion equal or better actors in the west. That's why you don't see him very often. I believe Pirates of the Carribean is his first appearance in a big budget Hollywood blockbuster movie. His previous movies, other than Anna and the King, are just too insignificant.

So really, piracy has nothing to do with those 3 fellas.

I think the government is taking piracy more seriously than ever before. With zero pirated software & games sold in LYP nowadays, except pirated game cartridges since they don't fall into the same CD/DVD category (I don't know how our laws can be so stupid), we have less places to buy pirated materials.

More and more games come with online capabilities that only allow original copies to be played and that is good for consumers because it adds value to the product.

But more needs to be done to combat piracy:
1. Prices need to be cheaper - more locally produced copies would be nice. If we can produce tons and tons of pirated stuff, we can definitely do originals as well. People who buy games at RM10 or less will not pay RM100+ for an original, that's clear.
2. Warranty - in US, you could return a game or exchange it for another within a certain number of days. This should apply as well here (correct me if I'm wrong).
3. Local support line - if we buy a US game, are we getting the same kind of support extended to us? Toll free line? Local support help? Currently, we only have forums to turn to which are hardly any help.

Look at Microsoft products. Most companies are using their originals nowadays. Why? Because Microsoft cared enough to open an office here. They cared enough to actively conduct product launches and promotions and of course, raids with the local authorities. They opened up job opportunities for the local talent. This has worked out much better than just sitting in Redmond and hope that piracy of their software will just go away. To other software/game publishers out there - give some to get some.

Software Boutique, a local reseller of original games has EA rights. They're currently offering up to 50% discounts on pre-ordered EA games. We should help support this genuine effort to help bring down prices of US products sold here. Send a message to the US counterparts that if the price is right, there is a vast untapped market here.

Eh, not really. Our localised versions are supposed to have the box and manual in BM thus making it really unfeasible to be parallel exported overseas.

i buy originals because it's the right thing to do. don't support piracy.




why da heck do you even need to buy games every day or every week, heck or even every month!?!?

each year i buy less than 5 games. i'm happy with it. it's not like you don't have any other things to spend on, right?

Used to buy original games 10 years back during Jeffery era from the TV techology talk, Cyber.... (Something) where it's still cheap. I remember games such as Syndicate only cost RM 49 which I bought it from Bangsar shopping complex.

I still support original game, but it's hard to get the latest game on the shelf when released.

NONSENSE!!!

you just have to be aware of the release date and pre-order them, heck you might get some discounts with pre-orders. and some goodies too.

Heh, I've stopped advocating the "100% ori" moto for awhile now as you tend to get a LOT of negative flak from warez users. This "Buy if you can" moto doesn't generate as much flak, but it certainly generates some other type of flak (Usually, the "You're a goddamned hypocrite" line)

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was, (In Reply to Hornet), not everyone will buy original games on the merits of features that are absent in the pirated version.

Jeffrey Ong (Former national swimmer) and Cyberwave?

Dude, that show came out in '96 or something. Syndicate came out in '93. You were buying a game which was at least 3 years old, hence the low price. Games around that time were in the RM 90- 130 region... Plus, you haven't factored in inflation.

Yes, its true that games are indeed more expensive now, but that was a few years ago when most games were in the RM 180+ region. That time is long gone now and most games are back in the RM 110-170 region.

i see there is pro and con of ori and mr jacksparrow version....

for instance see at what happen to lovely psp... good game stop to come out and of course ori is expensive but just to keep the good game to come ive start to support ori... but only for the game i really want to have and pay.. some game is just to waste time but some game is for having real fun.

so for start just get the game u really like. thats wat i do now.. at least i have few copy already... just start buying one copy first.. then buy another one when u have the cash... but never intend to buy one every day.. make a convenient gap for you, such as one a month or once a year its up to you but just buy one at least...

if no one buy ori game.. so expect there will never be a great game and only crappy game... start now and never regret or regret for ever later..

back in the mid 90s (yeah, when Dynamix and the rest were around) the games were around RM 50ish. i bought my the 1st C&C at less than a hundred bucks.

for the past 3 - 5 years, game prices haven't hiked that much. it's still around RM 100 - 140 range as usual. it's only the SPECIAL packaged versions that are priced higher.

I support piracy because I'm a cheapskate

Really? I would occasionally browse through game stores around 1995-96 and I could've sworn the prices were in the RM 75- RM 120 region. Well, maybe it was the place I go to (It was CompAsia. It used to be in Damansara Jaya)

doesn't matter. nowadays new games, their price won't be below RM 100 already. a while after launch then they'll sell below RM 100. (*#&%(*#&%(*

the pre-order C&C3 was below RM 100 for the standard editions. Kane editions / Kane Steel Edition were more pricey.

Pls, go a little more easy on that person....... he/she/it didn't state that he/she/it got the pirated version of that game.......

On other note....... I tend to get original games, well cause....... I don't have a choice being where I am now, Australia......... there is the option of downloading through torrent but...... I just couldn't wait......

And contrary to popular belief....... original games in KL is cheaper than here...... I got my friend to get me the C&C3 Kane steelbook edition from TSB as the price is cheaper than a standard C&C3 edition here...... Nintendo DS games are cheaper to get in M'sia too and some titles couldn't be found here in AUS or has a later release, the thing is that the DS games bought in KL aren't supported by Nintendo I hear..........

Well, he's been complaining like mad about how buggy Stalker is in the Stalker thread. His first post mentions that he "can't say how he got it"

Regardless, his point was on how buggy games = no buy original.

Anyway, I have a friend in Aus and he's in the same boat as you.

He was quite annoyed that SupCom came out a couple of days AFTER he went back there, and so he paid much more for it there

This post has been edited by H@H@: Apr 3 2007, 08:16 PM

when you convert back to MYR its slightly more expensive, AUS dollar and SING dollar has similar value, if you work in australia, lets say you earn 2000 AUS$ a month, and get that Kane edition for $79.95 from ebay, its still cheaper if you consider dollar to dollar. I still think that the softwares and games are the same (follow the USD, Euro, Yen, etc) in the whole world, unless there's localized licensed version.

anyway, asides from blaming the prices are too high, put the blame on weak RM first, and lower income rate in malaysia, compare to other slightly more developed nation. Why china is also high on piracy? Imagine a vista Ultimate there selling for more than 2000 rmb , thats way more than an average ppl there's monthly wage.

RM 100 buy 1 game or 10 games
which 1 you choise ?

RM 100,000. Buy 1 sedan car or 10 stolen cars.

Which one you choose?

i remember my old 486 days. all my games are original.
"lion king, aladdin...."

Don't blame the currency. Blame the attitude.

10 stolen cars thankyou

This post has been edited by Setsunahq: Apr 3 2007, 09:17 PM

if got choice can buy stolen car i will too

they are making dvd movies cheap now. 2 disc set for 69. thats good value for money instead of forking 100 plus a pop. i stop buying pirated dvd movies since the price drop.but games is a totally different issue. too expansive and i only buy 2-3 ori games per year. some games are buggy too.. to be honest i was glad i didnt buy ori splinter cell double agent.worst game ever in terms of bugs. and ubisoft didnt bother supplying patches after the first month!!

No money no attitude .. If i have RM4000 salary i'll be sure to buy original ..

Someone was comparing cigarette with game earlier.
That's like asking a hardcore gamer not to game but spend the time he could game to look at ants

No....... original games in Australia are actually more expansive than in the US when converted directly........

and yes, buying original games here in AUS is more expensive than buying it in M'sia but that's why I said in my previous post that buying original games in M'sia is not all that bad.........

Pointing this statement back to those cheapskates, hahaha.

to quit game? just because want to support ori? hehehehe must be kidding.. no cant do..

its not the price that matter.. but first salary range.. haha for us here salary range low la to get above 1k+++ need atleast few years of service.. thats fr my case la

hope some one is care enuff to address mater just like the gov staff who get a big raise.. hehehe

never ever do conversion when comparing.

compare $$$$ earned and $$$$ spent.

we're paying more for games, compared to the US (spending vs earning) and same applies to computer parts. that's why i only buy a few games each year.

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This post has been edited by nukienemec: Sep 16 2010, 01:02 PM

Ya i'm agree with him coz not all title really out in Malaysia like Cultures/Cultures2/Northland and 8th Wonder of the World from THQ. Onli hot title will pre-order at Malaysia others title not famous hard to find in any pc games shop....sometimes pirated gt what title games u wan but not original......not mean i support pirated cd/dvd coz it spread virus/gt hacking tool inside

because all the games we are so insane about, are being developed in North America and Europe, and being published by US based companies. Eventhough EA has its base on singapore and hk, its games pricing there are still the same as US after conversion, with ebay as reference ... same to microsoft here, they have a base in MY, but never see them offering vista ultimate for 199.00

once again, its either you can blame RM or income rate in malaysia is just too low, that used to be 1 USD = RM3.00 something, before 1997...

of course, theres much more things that is overpriced, like cars, liquors, cigarettes

I did that for Dawn of War.Bought pirated for the first and fell in love with this game.After that,original all the way.Im doing the same for DoW2 and UT2007 too.

For me,i only buy pirated if i have no confident to the developer in delivering a good product.If not,i'll save till i have enough for an original copy,exactly like what am i doing for C&C3.I have confident in EALA to bring me a good game.

I rather spend 100 on a good,functional game that 10 broken and limited feature games.

Actually,Codemaster have a studio over here.I got no idea what are they working on now in our local studio.

RM40 is ridiculously too cheap.I dont think that amount of money will be enough to pay back the developer for their investment.

Think of the game developer,they have put so much effort to making a game and you still want to get pirated.These poor guys work about 12 hours a day,7 days a week and 365 days per year.Get original to support and appreciate their effort.RM100+ is little compare to the hard work that they have put in.Pity them for gawd sakes.

that's very good point. the price of ori game in malaysia is cheaper than what is selling in Australia. The price of ori game which is below RM120 is fair price for me. All my games now is Ori, but i cant afford the Ori OS and software. They cost hundreds, thousands, esspecially the Microsoft Office and Photoshop.

Same for me,no ori software for me but im finding freewares to replace the pirated bits.

How much are they selling in australia? Have you factored in their average monthly income? Factored in relative prices? Factored in living cost and affordability?

I actually prefer buying original games...more quality,means won't spoil easily but for pirated although it is cheap ,it onli can play for not more than 3-5 times...then totally cd can't run anymore.....
N original games u can easily get warranty n some technical support to solve the problem.............u can also go online for most of the games nowadays to play multiplayer (not for pirated because pirated can't play no cd key can't register)
As i know,most of the original games the box inside sure got 1 simple guide book for the user n sometimes even hav soundtracks cd for tat game onli....all these u can't find in buyin a pirated cd......

but 1 thing tat pissed off mi is everytime when i bought an original for a certain game,n few days ltr when u saw there r ppl who selling pirated cd for tat game....(realli heart-broken)....feel like buyin 1 piece of tat cd jus for breakin it

Well, I can answer one of the above........

New PC games generally sells for AU$99.90 (RM279.72)....... same goes for PS2, Wii, Gamecube, Xbox........

Xbox360 games goes around AU$109 and PS3 goes around AU$118.......

However, sometimes new games starts off cheaper than usual, around the range of $10-$30...... these are sometimes when they're on a limited discount sale or the game didn't do very well overseas before coming in here.........

On a side note..... the C&C3 Kane Steelbook Edition is not available for purchase here, which is why I got my friend to get it for me in M'sia......

i feel u dude, i feel u.

Seems like there are alot of people here who would support Ori games if it were cheaper. The price point (excluding special editions) is currently RM100 - RM140.

What if they were to lower it to RM50 - RM70? I am quite sure they would be able to sell double the quantity, so even if they do make less profit per copy, they are actually making roughly the same total profit, all in an effort to benefit the consumers.

The only reason I believe, why the need to maintain the pricing, is so that people won't start ordering games from here and getting it shipped to other parts of the world. There would definitely be an uproar.

When I was studying in the US, I used to buy original games which cost around USD50 (without tax) which is equivilent to RM175 ringgit. WIth that amount of money, i could buy 35 dvds worth of games. Starting pay for a graduate in Malaysia is around RM2k. For a gamer who likes to play a large variety of games, simply only buying original games is SIMPLY not very affordable for me, unless you want me to sacrifice meals and other priorities just to meet my gaming needs. So what is the solution for this? Buy pirated games or don't buy pirated games and suffer not satisfying my gaming appetite!

What drives me to choose the dark side:
Malaysian's tidak apa attitude: Why should I care about the developers, I don't even know who they are, I just want to satisfy my gaming needs. And the risk of you getting caught for buying piracy is somewhat low, only the risk for the person selling it is high. If somehow the goverment staring fining people for buying pirated games, or give some caning punishment or whatever, maybe people will start considering it, otherwise piracy won't die.

i would like ori games if they can lower 2 rm60-70...more than 100 *ahem* FTW

First, I bought pirated games cos can't afford it -- playing in office computer.

Then, I can afford to buy computer but not softwares

Now, I just bought Vista Ultimate and Office 2007, some original finance software but not original games yet.

Future, it will be totally ori.

Progress of time makes everything affordable.

there are a few types of computer users in Malaysia

1) one is the type that would only buy original and could afford it.
2)one is the type that would prefer to use original and would try to get as many of their stuff original as possible
3) one is the type that would never get originals.

perhaps there's 101 more others anyone else can come up with.

i personally find that it's good to always head for the direction of originals. i'm in class #2 btw.

I am no. 2 as well.

i think i the most cheap person....i dont buy...but dl

Im type 2 too.

Hee hee I always been a jack sparrow version gamer, untill last month I bought the first ori in my life, C&C3. And the reason I bought it is quite disagree by most of you here : To support the developer for this game.

First at all, I am the big fan of it, shame on me never buy ori when I love it so much... (**note 1). But this time, deep in my heart I really really hope the C&C series will back on life, and continue it with more great game, like renegade 2 (I hope they really consider it if C&C 3 make a good sell), C&C 4, RA3... blah blah blah. Due to this, I really feel taht I should support them for making such great game and therefore I buy original.

**note 1: My favorite game all the time, Legacy Of Kain series, I always blame that company, Crystal Dynamic only concentrate on making tomb raider after they bought the copyright, (darn TR Aniversary!) and stop making Legacy Of Kain. But I myself is to be blamed because I never own a single original game of the series...so now the best game series Legacy Of Kain has NO WAY TO TRACK....

So guys, if you really love that game and wish it will come out with sequence, buy original of it, otherwise you will taste the sadness as me when that company don't work on your fav game anymore!

Raziel... Kain... where are you ... ...

This post has been edited by Vorador: Apr 6 2007, 02:29 PM

original games ar, u can buy it at subang parade there coz i bought my ori C&C3 steel kane edtion there.......

they should have a game rental service in Malaysia
we rent original games at a price to try it out .
if its nice we buy the original.
if not simply return the game and forget about it.

No need rent now gt original games which the price is RM20 per month and you can played has many games u liked but problem is games title are limited/old version title from online company, i forgot the company name.

Game rentals for PC games are simply not feasible due to the nature of CD-keys.

The "uniqueness" of a game disc is tied with the CD-key and not the disc itself (Which is the case with console games) and that's why rental services for PC games do not exist.

For this reason as well, warranties are not applicable to PC games as well

alzert: You talking about Jumboplay? They're not as crap as you as their list of titles is pretty recent. Heck, sometimes they get them sooner than retail.

so many ppl bought an ori CNC3 as their first ori game

If Legacy Of Kain got more sequence I sure buy ori.

And when Tomb Raider Anniversary release, I will purposely go buy pirate version.

Really?!! all new version thats mean i can play games like Supreme Commander or CN'C 3...

Reasons I don't buy original games all the time.

1. I was working in the UK for many years where new pc games cost about gbp 30-35 (RM 210 - 250) and I had no problem paying that much for a new game. At the same time i was also earning 3-4 times as much over there. Relative to income games were a lot cheaper.

2. I hate the packaging we get in Malaysia. Games tend to come in oversized boxes which just looks ugly to me. Games in the UK tended to come in normal sized dvd boxes.

3. I really don't feel a moral obligation to support a foreign owned company, especially one like Electronic Arts. I would be more inclined
to pay for games by indie producers (eg introversion: Uplink, Darwinia, DEFCON).

4. Some games are so buggy on release that I refuse to pay to beta test a piece of software for a publisher/developer. And honestly, some games are so bad you'd be doing the developer a favour by pirating them.

5. I don't automatically equate software piracy with theft, which is the message some people are trying to get across.

I've probably spent more than most Malaysians on original software over the years, and I will pay for an original game if the product justifies the expense and i can afford it. But really, I can't justify paying full price for all the games. These are just my personal reasons for using warez.

TS y open this thread??
not only malaysian
even if u go petaling street n ask for the visitors frm others country y u will buy prirated goods frm petaling street they will answer "CHEAP"

Cars doesn't relate to pirated games CD/DVD.my point:
1.Cars are made of solid materials which are known to be expensive such as metal,paint,rubber etc.u can use ur hand to feel those materials.

i feel tht price or ori is too expensive for avg m'sians.sg ppl avg earn 3-4k.m'sia ppl also avg ppl earn 3-4k.but y sg ppl only need fork out 50+ bucks to buy ori while m'sians need to pay double the figure to buy ori.look at the income figure,almost same.y dun game developers decrease prices?if linux can be foc, y not microsoft lower its prices?linux is not cheapskate quality(its much more stable than windows).

conclusion:
1.rich ppl go ahead buy ori nobody will stop u
2.those who cant afford pls dun beg ur parents for hardearned money just to buy lines of coding(games are only made of computer codings)

Please don't read my post out of context... My post was a counterpoint to some bugger's "RM100, buy 1 original game or 10 pirated games". I was merely addressing the point that is it right to get something that's stolen just because its cheaper.


Thank you for proving my point that the average Malaysian doesn't give a rat's ass about Intellectual Property.

Why buy original books? They're just letters strung together!
Why buy music albums? They're just notes put together!
Why buy movie DVDs? They're just pictures in motion!

normally i only buy ori if the games can last me long.such as final fantasy and kingdom hearts series in ps2.wat for buy ori if the games finish so fast.example:




dis is C&C3 kane edition.priced at 100++ bucks.within 24 hrs all the campaign is finished(without using any cheats and trainers) wherelse i need 3 months to finish my kingdom hearts.priced almost the same.dis is lack of replayability though some might argue tht games such as C&C got online multiplayer mode.streamyx has laggy speeds for most of m'sians.so its no fun playing it online also(thts y point of view).i rather go for mmorpg.i'm still waiting for ragnarok 2.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 11 2007, 01:01 PM

ok. so we could always use the streamyx argument on your MMOs as well isn't it?

other that more interested aspect of MMO like RO's PVP / MVP stuff, lvling is damn boring and damn routine. and you're paying for that. haha.

how fast you finish a game is a damn lame excuse for bashing. i finish my games within a week or 2 usually, friends even say i'm crazy to finish it so fast (3 days for some games) but i've no complaints.

more importantly is the fact that it shows how people respect intellectual property.

Cant you play the game slowly and enjoy what is there that the developers have prepared for you?Torture the ai and take your time to finish your game.

I really dont understand why some people likes to rush to finish a game.Whats the point?

Why dont we support ori games to make the price drop in the future. maybe they can start do local packaging which absolutely drop the price to below 100.

Trust me, the Original games price tag will not drop in future even everyone are supporting it

Best to wait after 1 years for a good price but by the time you wont have the mood to play the game anymore

Im already supporting it.Hope the price drops.