and what's the release stuff got to do with piracy? it looks to me that you're just plain dumb about releases.

Black Edition was released same time as the standard edition.

same goes to C&C3 where Kane Edition and standard edition are released together.

i know. cos i ordered the NFS:MW Black Edition and C&C:3 Kane Edition. it came same time as the standard edition.

dude, it's the people that drive RM 100k++ cars and using 8800GTX running SLI with high powered PSU and RM 1k+++ processors that frequently are complaining original games being expensive.

heck you don't have to buy EVERY game that comes to the market. i buy less than 5 games a year, this year itself 2 only.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Apr 2 2007, 09:18 PM

i buy originals because it's the right thing to do. don't support piracy.




why da heck do you even need to buy games every day or every week, heck or even every month!?!?

each year i buy less than 5 games. i'm happy with it. it's not like you don't have any other things to spend on, right?

NONSENSE!!!

you just have to be aware of the release date and pre-order them, heck you might get some discounts with pre-orders. and some goodies too.

back in the mid 90s (yeah, when Dynamix and the rest were around) the games were around RM 50ish. i bought my the 1st C&C at less than a hundred bucks.

for the past 3 - 5 years, game prices haven't hiked that much. it's still around RM 100 - 140 range as usual. it's only the SPECIAL packaged versions that are priced higher.

doesn't matter. nowadays new games, their price won't be below RM 100 already. a while after launch then they'll sell below RM 100. (*#&%(*#&%(*

the pre-order C&C3 was below RM 100 for the standard editions. Kane editions / Kane Steel Edition were more pricey.

never ever do conversion when comparing.

compare $$$$ earned and $$$$ spent.

we're paying more for games, compared to the US (spending vs earning) and same applies to computer parts. that's why i only buy a few games each year.

there are a few types of computer users in Malaysia

1) one is the type that would only buy original and could afford it.
2)one is the type that would prefer to use original and would try to get as many of their stuff original as possible
3) one is the type that would never get originals.

perhaps there's 101 more others anyone else can come up with.

i personally find that it's good to always head for the direction of originals. i'm in class #2 btw.

ok. so we could always use the streamyx argument on your MMOs as well isn't it?

other that more interested aspect of MMO like RO's PVP / MVP stuff, lvling is damn boring and damn routine. and you're paying for that. haha.

how fast you finish a game is a damn lame excuse for bashing. i finish my games within a week or 2 usually, friends even say i'm crazy to finish it so fast (3 days for some games) but i've no complaints.

more importantly is the fact that it shows how people respect intellectual property.

hehe. depends on the individual, some people finish the game fast and complain.

to me, i like to finish the games fast because i enjoy the story.

games like NFS:Carbon is too short la but games like Prince of Persia : The Sands of Time and Warrior Within, i finished within the week. same goes to C&C Red Alert 2, Emperor, Homeworld 1 and 2.

you must understand that different people have different ways to enjoy the game. i don't rush, but i like to finish my games quickly especially when i enjoy the story (and yeah, with my gaming skills i can finish them pretty fast) and it'll also allow me to write reviews in more complete detail.

again that depends.

if the game wasn't short but the gamer finished it fast, then the fella deserves a bash on the head for complaining.

if the game was short, then i think the complaint is justified. for me, NFS:C was short. compare that to the previous NFS, it's really really really short.

so what has 'not being raised in well-to-do environment' has to go with buying original games?

just limit yourself to 3 games a year, averages to about RM 1 per day. is that difficult? or do you people just have this psychological tendancies to MUST get every new game released?

and after 10 years, you still say that you have difficulty affording originals?

a lot of people give lame excuses, imagine you can find college students who say they cannot afford to buy original games. fair enough. after graduated and working for 6 - 10 years and you'll probably still say they cannot afford original games even when their salary is like 36k per annum - in which 5% of the total salary is more than enough to acquire at least 10 titles.

now tell me parrot, i don't come from well-to-do environment as well but even during my college days i could actually save up and buy original games. a few titles a year, but nevertheless i enjoyed what i bought.

what about you? are you a working individual? is it that difficult to buy original games / movies?

seriously, if you look at the general Malaysian mentality - people just don't care. they could use a quad-core processor, 4GB RAM and 8800GTX on SLi, using N95 mobile phone and drive a Honda car and still say they can't afford original game.

it all boils down to attitude.

my first original games were games from Dynamix like Adventures of Willy Beamish, about RM 30++, a bunch of floppy disks.

then my first original game on CD was the 1st C&C. even then i was like only 16 - 17 i think.

i saved up for it. even the games i acquired through out the years, i save up to buy them. even with my starting pay of RM 1,400 many many many years also i can buy what.

ok so maybe you have commitments here and there. i myself am a gamer, a techie and blablablabla - best way is always to be prudent, only buy good games or games that you like. buy about 1 - 5 games a year is sufficient.

last year my purchases were NFS Carbon, Fifa World Cup 2006, BF 2142, Prince of Persia T2T. i think that's it. i might have missed out something.

this year? Supreme Commander and C&C:3. didn't buy CoH and various others.

oh btw - who said it's not easy to find stable job with IT degree? head to the Jobs & Career section. hehe.

yeah. this part i agree.

our $$$ sucks. we pay 4x more for things usually.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Apr 12 2007, 02:14 AM

hehe.

pirate, parrot. sounds alike. and usually pirates are depicted to have a parrot with them.

anyway i understand how it feels to want to play game yet the cheapest available source is from pirates.

it games were cheaper i'll have more games to play too.

yeah consoles games are costly.

however consoles on the other hand
1. cheaper than PC
2. you can play everything released without having to worry whether your console is able to play it, unlike PCs - can my graphic card support this game? will it be slow?




if you're referring to this thread in particular, do know what we are in Gamers Hideout section.

Piracy has been discussed in RWI section before.

i remember seeing original Gran Turismo 2 at Sony Wings and it was rather pricey, definitely above RM 250. that was many years back (as said, GT2 la).

console game pricing can also be found at
http://www.tsb.com.my/index.cfm

strangely a lot of people have this type of mentality, later after working already also come back with the same reason. (car, loan, house, gf, wife, baby, other things........)

even during my student days (pre-SPM and college / uni days) i could buy original games.

even now as a working adult, i only buy 2 - 5 titles a year.

just because you're a hardcore gamer that doesn't mean you need to play everything. and just because you're a student that doesn't mean you should support piracy.

just be selective in your game purchases.

i don't even know if you define "hardcore gamer" correctly. fact is hardcore gamer doesn't have to be someone that plays every game available. you could be focused on a single title alone and still be hardcore gamer.

EDITED : oh hey, i just noticed your siggy. decent rig, decent laptop. can do case modding some more. if you can afford other things in life, don't tell me you cannot afford original games.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Apr 14 2007, 08:33 PM

i think i mentioned it earlier,

there are some who TRY to acquire originals, in the even they cannot they'll opt for pirated.

then there are those who insist never to buy original.

ahhh. there are such factors, i believe there are times when this will happen "son, why buy so expensive thing? go for pirated la."

oh well.

and you are a confused person because you didn't bother to understand that those 2 scenarios are not comparable.

regarding the parents issue, it's fact that while you're under your parents control then it's wiser to understand that they're the boss. then of course, educate them if possible. if they insist that you go for pirated then what can you do?

of course most importantly is that when you CAN, you go for originals. simple as that.

not just that. pre-order copies are usually cheaper too. and you might even get freebies.

even when i was a student, i only buy around 2 - 5 games per year. it's all about finance management.

well my post is just to highlight the possibility of spending less by going through pre-order. for the rest, you can just use demo.



NFS:C was an unfortunate case. even my friend who bought through PO hasn't install the game as everyone said it was horrible.



use demos. better that way. legally speaking.

and yes, i agree with H@H@. some people plop like RM 1.3k - 2.3k for 8800 series graphic card. of course when you have such a card, it's quite understood that you'll have a power supply and processor that matches it too.

and it's even more ridiculous to see people driving RM 100k++ cars claiming originals are pricey.