Agree.   I'm just only a student and don't have so much money to support genuine. Of couse, I'll support if I got the money, like Windows Vista, CS1.6. I'll buy original. But if the price is more than RM100, its too much for me. For OS(Windows), no choice... Because I never use pirated OS and I feel its very dangerous for using cracked OS as it may crash randomly at anytime. For games, its ok, just can't access the online multiplayer features if its not original. At least you can play and enjoy the single-player(story-mode).

That's actually a pretty good rate of return.  That's more than what iphone app developers make per game and about RM2 more than what i paid for defense grid during the steam sale.  OF course your argument there is about as relevant to this topic as a bicycle riding fish.

If everyone here accepts that the transition from jack sparrow to original gamer is a long term educational process, everyone on this forum would be a lot less confrontational.  I'm just happy if more and more people get turned onto gaming.

So did I, I would be a hypocrite if i said i've never pirated before.  It's a slow educational process to get people who were like us once used to the idea of paying for original games.  There's absolutely no need to respond with flames every time some pirate gives a pro piracy opinion.  I'd like to think that today's pirates are tomorrow's customers.

The sooner publishers/distributors wake up to the fact and make getting legit copies easier (pricing/availability) than pirating then we'll get to tomorrow.

From what I see from the posts past few pages, many didn't see the bigger picture of what +3kk! is trying to get across though, I had to say this, didn't agree with "piracy is 100% wrong" does not mean "100% support piracy", thus I personally agree with piracy issue falls into grey area.

The tendency for piracy is broad and includes how the economy does it's full circle, big corp works by capitalism, by the same token, isn't it capitalistic approach to maximize personal gain?

let's take a look at +3kk!'s quote,

Let's say every person is a corp, we can see corps copy stuff and exploit them for corp gain(obviously the real gainer is the CEO or the evil boss), base on +3kk!'s quote marked in bold, isn't it same with someone saving money from pirated goods and use the saved money for real essential stuff(personal gain).

Even with +3kk! saying his neutral, no one understand it seems, I urge a stop to posts which have tones of "you said that, you pirate!"

Isn't PC already dead? The way i see it, PC is a lot of hardware muscle but hardly any interesting games...it's always FPS, FPS and more FPS. I seriously, don't know what's wrong with PC gamers. Occasionally, there's the racing and RPG, but most are cross platform games anyway. So with consoles, u get to play exclusives Ninja Gaiden, Bayonette and most of the PCs good stuff. Even RTS on PC seems quite dead nowadays.

btw, i refused to pirate any FPS games. It's a waste of cost of the CD IT'S burned on. Just ask Captain Jack Sparrow. 

sometime, financial problem, if u wait until the game got promo, sure that time is very hard to past, watching people playing that game...

until the time u got the ori one, no one play that game, then what the point of playing that game?

Even if his English is not perfect, i don't think he's saying that OLD games are worthless - just worth less.  Since the majority of you guys QQ whenever there's no multiplayer support in a game, a 1 year old game that does have multi player support just won't have multiple players to support that multi player support since that game will no longer be a game du jour.  Because the multi player aspect will be more active in the early days, therefore you can assume that a game will be worth more in it's early days and therefore the higher day 1 prices are more or less justified.  "a game in hand is worth two in the bush" or other some such nonsense.

OFC this statement in no way justifies day 1 piracy.  I'm just for consumer advocacy and you too would be in seventh heaven if you saw how heavily discounted older games are at retail overseas.  Unlike here where we have no consumer power and the elitist have the mindset that if you can't pay then don't play.

ps.  Off hand, i can actually think of an old game that's worthless - hellgate:london! lol!

sry, kinda rush typing that post...

what i mean is, when the time the game has launch, everyone is talking about it, after a period of time, there are less people talking about it

get what i mean?

i don't say the OLD games are worthless, until now, i'm still waiting for TF2 promo, and i just bought CoH full pack from steam last month

most gamers here who are so self-righteous to attack other people for piracy are hypocrites.

when you started PC gaming when you were a little kid, unless your father mother is tauke balak don't tell me you actually bought ori for all of the games you played. Most kids only had RM10 average per week for lunch money. What kind of a crazy kid would sacrifice +Rm100 for a game? That's 10 weeks of not eating at all!

even the booming gaming culture in malaysia is in large part due to piracy. How many gamers nowadays know what a Sega Megadrive is? or a SNES? All they know is Microgenius, back when there is almost zero piracy in console gaming. It's during the Playstation era when pirated CDs exist, and gaming got a lot cheaper.

Even in cybercafes, your favorite classic games you play with your friends like Diablo, Warcraft, Starcraft, Counterstrike, Quake, you think such a subculture would exist in the first place without piracy?

After you've all grown up with stable jobs with good pay, now you think of buying ori. Not just that, you persecute other people for not buying ori like you do. Very teh hypocrite.

PS: I know piracy is wrong, but don't be so quick to judge other people for going pirate.

But I have to agree that the attitudes of some of the more pro-ori gamers in this forum is bordering on downright hostile as just about any question about technical problems or anything that is even slightly pro-piracy is met with insane amounts of hyperbolic responses about the evils of piracy.

he said he dun buy pirate.
he did not mention he will not download.

heheh i did not say that he is not a pirate.