student prob is not about pirate game IMO,
is the application like photoshop, ms office which easily cost about rm1k..

The price is letting most people down, most of you guys (students) have their rig been sponsored by their parents. Some of us here is not, and limited funds, especially who don' have MARA, PTPTN and such

I only have 1 original game, and that is because my cousin gives me. All others are pirates (around 30 games in all). Its not like I'm supporting those pirates, but its just not a necessary thing for me, and far too expensive. Toll, fuel, eat, and my PC is fully depends RM100 per week (not including semester break, where I don't given any money), and I travel about 80km per day, and that purely from college to home.

I need to keep some money for emergency too, just in case for rainy days

few days back i talk to one of the forumer here, he playing pirated GTA 4 with 4850 + C2D, given the excuse that he got no money. but he promise me that he will try to support original and need to save money for a month in order to buy a original game.

then, suddenly his router modem spoil, without the 2nd thought, he go to lowyat and replace a new one.
somehow a wireless router modem which cost about rm 200 is affordable immediately.
another friend of mine always try to support original, somehow he buying / downloading pirated is just to test it out, he said if he like the game he will buy original.

i ask him how many pirated he play this year, he answered me more than 20.
then how many original game that he bought? he remains silent.

lolz that's exactly what my mindset is like but this boy here has some problem understanding some ENGLISH my POV here is based on the general public in this country...if everyone like us can have a same living standard like US, this thread would not have exist in the first place...i did not mention i am on pirate side also just 2 let ya know

another think chuck, there is a purpose of graphic settings in the first place 4 every games...so adjust it nicely if your old ass PC is indeed outdated...4 me upgrading is not a problem...so i don't really care

bros，

the game maker purposely make the local version in none english, so that those local version cant sell in other country.

otherwise, i will buy GTA 4 from india online since only selling at RM36. it even cheaper than pirated...

thats the logic, anyone here bought GTA 4 from india ? no right? unless you cant read their language.

Hence the "hypocrites" should stopping yelling at posters who happened to buy pirated games "BAI OLI !!!111!11!11" and add a few angry smileys.

really? than start ur anti-piracy campaign by deleting all mp3's, porn, swares from ur hard disk now! b4 that, turn off ur torrent client please...

No one could do that sudden drastic change but doing it step by step would be the best option.It's just ridiculous to change in a sudden.

If you like playing games,buy a few original games that you enjoy playing.Same thing if you like movies,buy the one you like.

Im not asking to delete all the pirated stuff you have.Dont think anyone here have enough money to replace every single thing they have to original.

Music labels charge more with CDs than cassette tapes, yet it is in fact easier and cheaper to produce CDs compared cassette tapes. Where's the morality in that?

And game publishers say that if we download, buy pirated games, it is the same as stealing. Yet when they make crap games and sell them overpriced, it's not considered stealing.

They always complain about people pirating games. They say that there are a whole lot more people buying pirated games than people buying original games. Yet if they pay more attention to WHY people pirate games (too expensive), and lower their prices, they would net in a WHOLE LOT MORE customers. They gain more profit, and customers get to enjoy cheaper games. I tell you, as a consumer, i would rather pay for RM50-60 ori than a RM20 -30 jack sparrow version, and I'm not even exactly rich. It's a win-win situation, yet nobody is making the first move. Greed wins. Everyone loses.

Here's a fact:
Pirates only pirate big game titles. I mean, you won't find a pirated copy of indie work. Cause they know AAA titles will be a hit once it's released. So they hitch the ride without authorization.

To combat piracy, I see there are only 2 ways: lower down the price/go back to the shareware-way, that is, release a semi-full product for the consumer to try first, if they like it, just buy it. The next way is sell the games through digital distribution (I miss those big manuals..) with full tech support i.e. patch and DLC (I don't like DLC though, to me it kills the modification capability of a game).

most gamers here who are so self-righteous to attack other people for piracy are hypocrites.

when you started PC gaming when you were a little kid, unless your father mother is tauke balak don't tell me you actually bought ori for all of the games you played. Most kids only had RM10 average per week for lunch money. What kind of a crazy kid would sacrifice +Rm100 for a game? That's 10 weeks of not eating at all!

even the booming gaming culture in malaysia is in large part due to piracy. How many gamers nowadays know what a Sega Megadrive is? or a SNES? All they know is Microgenius, back when there is almost zero piracy in console gaming. It's during the Playstation era when pirated CDs exist, and gaming got a lot cheaper.

Even in cybercafes, your favorite classic games you play with your friends like Diablo, Warcraft, Starcraft, Counterstrike, Quake, you think such a subculture would exist in the first place without piracy?

After you've all grown up with stable jobs with good pay, now you think of buying ori. Not just that, you persecute other people for not buying ori like you do. Very teh hypocrite.

PS: I know piracy is wrong, but don't be so quick to judge other people for going pirate.

When someone pirates a piece of software, often he will get an exact copy of the original software (sometimes lacking features eg multiplayer or anti piracy "bugs").  For us gamers who buy original software, we get a feelgood feeling, software that (should) works and some additional value added features.  But otherwise it's practically the same thing.  A lot of people have a problem getting beyond that. 

Sure it's technically illegal and morally wrong - that doesn't change the fact that the illegality is badly enforced and people don't have a moral problem in doing so (and by morality i mean the fact that a pirated videogame vendor does not illicit the same emotional and moral response as say a brothel.)

Does this forum have a responsibility as a community?  Yeah, i would say it does but i don't think that should involve judging people who have not joined the ranks of the "ori" gaming community.  As a forum mod, apart from enforcing the forum rules, you should encourage people to support the people that created these games - as you mention. 

It's about education not persecution.

Putting the moral culpability entirely on the buyer is wrong because there are too many other factors that contribute to the rampant piracy in our country.

It's always good to have a mid-afternoon debate with the mods on this forum on a slow work day. 

You are right that in the sense that the buyers are just as responsible for piracy as the organisations that print (the fake) dvds.  But there are so many other factors to consider apart from the buyer + seller dynamic that i personally feel that it's wrong to criminalise the buyer.  I still stand by my believe that the distribution chains in Malaysia are inherently flawed - investors need to feel a lot more confident in the protection they can get from the government before they start investing or else gaming will forever remain niche in this country.

Yeah there are quite a number people who should know better posting on this forum but (judging from a lot of posts that i see) i suspect that there are quite a lot of teens posting here who are supplied with illicit games by their parents.

You probably don't get this a lot but good job on this forum.  (although i would say that you put up with a lot more crap compared to davidgary on who rules the apple sub-forums with an iron fist )

@Juzjoe your post made me do a rofl irl.