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post Nov 9 2017, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 9 2017, 07:29 AM)
I doubt this will happen.... hmm.gif  By nature, Moderately Aggressive has minimum allocation of 70-80% Equity Funds in portfolio. They cannot lower the ratio too much as this is aganst the Factsheet/fund promise. So the only way for you to avoid losing is to sell your whole portfolio...  whistling.gif

*FSM keep on stressing that dont try to time the market, instead focusing on long term goal. Use Annualized return, instead of Per Annum etc...
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Perhaps not switching between equity and bonds lar, instead switching from Asia funds to emerging market funds during Asia market crash for example. Since inception of managed portfolio they changed a few funds already right?
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post Nov 9 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Nov 9 2017, 10:29 AM)
Perhaps not switching between equity and bonds lar, instead switching from Asia funds to emerging market funds during Asia market crash for example. Since inception of managed portfolio they changed a few funds already right?
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Their funds remain the same, just minor rebalance dry.gif

I think if Asia market crash all markets will mati together as well laugh.gif
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post Nov 9 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 9 2017, 10:54 AM)
Their funds remain the same, just minor rebalance  dry.gif

I think if Asia market crash all markets will mati together as well  laugh.gif
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If what you say is correct then it is a futile exercise to diversify into funds in different regions/countries.
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post Nov 9 2017, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 9 2017, 11:04 AM)
If what you say is correct then it is a futile exercise to diversify into funds in different regions/countries.
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Actually no. There is a difference between Crash vs Turbulence laugh.gif

Diversification is good to reduce market turbulences, but not crash nod.gif
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post Nov 9 2017, 12:01 PM

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Saw FSM HK and FSM sg talking about Japan equities. Affin Hwang World Series Japan growth fund anyone?
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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 9 2017, 10:54 AM)
Their funds remain the same, just minor rebalance  dry.gif

I think if Asia market crash all markets will mati together as well  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 9 2017, 11:04 AM)
If what you say is correct then it is a futile exercise to diversify into funds in different regions/countries.
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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 9 2017, 11:08 AM)
Actually no. There is a difference between Crash vs Turbulence  laugh.gif

Diversification is good to reduce market turbulences, but not crash  nod.gif
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haha I meant to say turbulence la, not crash, gave wrong example. sweat.gif

I just hope with managed portfolio, FSM will do whatever they can to help us pilot thru market turbulence, minimize loss, maximize profit. That's the reason why I sign up for it. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 9 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 9 2017, 11:08 AM)
Actually no. There is a difference between Crash vs Turbulence  laugh.gif

Diversification is good to reduce market turbulences, but not crash  nod.gif
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I doubt your words are industry recognized terms and definition.

In reality, it's going to be difficult to tell when the market is going to crash and when it is going through turbulence.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Nov 9 2017, 12:13 PM
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post Nov 9 2017, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 9 2017, 12:07 PM)
I doubt your words are industry recognized terms and definition.

In reality, it's going to be difficult to tell when the market is going to crash and when it is going through turbulence.
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The Chinese stock market turbulence began with the popping of the stock market bubble on 12 June 2015 and ended in early February 2016. A third of the value of A-shares on the Shanghai Stock Exchange was lost within one month of the event. Major aftershocks occurred around 27 July and 24 August's "Black Monday".


A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a significant cross-section of a stock market, resulting in a significant loss of paper wealth.


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post Nov 9 2017, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 9 2017, 12:07 PM)
I doubt your words are industry recognized terms and definition.

In reality, it's going to be difficult to tell when the market is going to crash and when it is going through turbulence.
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This one i am 100% agree with you laugh.gif
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post Nov 9 2017, 01:29 PM

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Top fund of the month :-

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...denOutputList=1

One year 52.16%.


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post Nov 9 2017, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 9 2017, 01:29 PM)
You need to be a "high value individual" to buy that right? lol
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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 9 2017, 01:32 PM)
You need to be a "high value individual" to buy that right? lol
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Well, that's just a thing for show, to make sure one is brave enough to stomach the risk. You can just click yes yes yes and it will go through.
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post Nov 9 2017, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 9 2017, 01:33 PM)
Well, that's just a thing for show, to make sure one is brave enough to stomach the risk. You can just click yes yes yes and it will go through.
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But minimum amount is rm10k and rm1k for subsequent, that’s quite high for some!
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Anyone still keeping RHB EMB? Seems declining now.
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Nov 9 2017, 01:51 PM)
But minimum amount is rm10k and rm1k for subsequent, that’s quite high for some!
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Sure it can be a problem for some.

But crouching tiger and hidden dragon, I am sure quite a few here will not have problem with it.
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post Nov 9 2017, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(newdnewd @ Nov 9 2017, 01:55 PM)
Anyone still keeping RHB EMB? Seems declining now.
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Sold RHB EMBF a few months ago but still keeping RHB AIF.

RHB AIF gets about half the % return for Cimb Asia Pac Dynamic Income (Ponzi 2.0) but still better than EPF return.
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QUOTE(newdnewd @ Nov 9 2017, 01:55 PM)
Anyone still keeping RHB EMB? Seems declining now.
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Still keeping.
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post Nov 9 2017, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 8 2017, 11:27 PM)
FSM managed portfolio November commentary is out  icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 9 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 8 2017, 03:50 PM)
Sui Jau's ....
"The most important advice I would give to anyone who hasn't started (be it man or woman) and is being held back is to starting investing now, but use a small amount.
Something you are comfortable with even if you suffer losses.
It can be as little as one thousand dollars because that is usually all you need to start investing into a unit trust.
Then, as you invest, you will see how markets and such affect your returns and you will be able to learn from your experiences without suffering too much heartache compared to if you placed your entire life savings into the market and lose half of it in a market crash.
The key thing is you have to accumulate investing experience.
No amount of prior reading up and accumulating of knowledge can compare with actual investing experience which can only be built up by using your own money to invest.
You have to experience the emotional pull that comes from market ups and downs and learn how to handle your emotions during those times.
And learning from mistakes made is the greatest teacher."
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...SJBlog_20141031

just an example......(luckily still under "cooling off" period)

sorry have to use your post as an example....
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Sorry if I get you confused. What I mean is does it diversify enough?

This post has been edited by virgoguy: Nov 9 2017, 02:44 PM
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post Nov 9 2017, 02:48 PM

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Where to view this?
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