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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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Ramjade
post Aug 9 2017, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Contestant @ Aug 9 2017, 11:32 AM)
Wonder why the inconsistency across border? They might start charging in Malaysia soon? Hopefully not.
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Of course I also hope they won't charge. If they start doing that, I have no place to park my EPF money. sad.gif But it's inevitable when you are public listed company. Shareholders come first before customers. sad.gif

Reasons for wanting to charge:
1) recurring growing revenue as long as your customer stays
2) this style of revenue is much more profitable in the long run than one time single charge (eg. adobe, microsoft switch to subscription based from traditional one time charge)

Reason for not charging yet:
1) need to build up customer base first. Once you have large customer, you can do anything (look at public mutual). When customer already park so much money with you, do you think they will change just for few hundred ringgit? This creates some kind of stickiness from the customer.
2) If they start charging now, their competitors will benefit (eut). As shown in SG, when they initiate the platform fees for everything, people start transferring to Phillip SG and dollardex. Of course some didn't transfer cause paperwork. Unlike SG, we cannot just switch to different providers. We need to sell first and rebuy. That's one advantage malaysia side have over their SG part.
So that's why point 1 is very important if they want to implement platform fees in the near future.

QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 9 2017, 11:43 AM)
A speculation of something 5 year down the road. What a waste of time talking about it, some more he is not a FSM staff.
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I may not be FSM staff but the signs are all there.

Signs:
- UI interface upgraded to look like SG version
- Bonds, managed portfoliod all start appearing when before this only UT
- Next to come, stock brokerage.

Like I said it's a matter of time. Why stick with old business ideas when new ideas are much more profitable and sustainable? It's always about the money at the end of the day. Which business model can generate higher and better profits.

Seen this kind of business strategy all over the world (some egs)
- xiaomi (charge everything cheap cheap then slowly hike prices)
- qihoo (give ad free programs to international customers, once customer base becomes big, start introducing ads, paid stuff)
- samsung (strategy same wirh xiaomi, start off cheap)
- microsoft and adobe (because of monopoly, they change to subscription model)

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post Aug 9 2017, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(binnary @ Aug 9 2017, 12:22 PM)
why buy UT from fsm over banks?
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for me...
more convenient to buy/sell
more fund choices to choose
more saving on lower sales charges
more easy to see the portfolios holding status

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post Aug 9 2017, 12:31 PM

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0.8% sales charges for recommended asia ex japan fund. which one worth buying?
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post Aug 9 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(ilpunto @ Aug 9 2017, 12:31 PM)
0.8% sales charges for recommended asia ex japan  fund. which one worth buying?
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unknown to alot of things about you....
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Ramjade
post Aug 9 2017, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(binnary @ Aug 9 2017, 12:22 PM)
why buy UT from fsm over banks?
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Simple. Cheaper service charge. Whoever can give me cheaper price aka better bang for bucks, get my money.

I am an unker scrooge. Why bother paying 5%+ when I just need to pay 1.75%? Big difference you know the 3%+

If I pay service charge of 5% (let's use 5% to make things easier) my fund need to perform/generate 5%+ profit just to break even.

Second, fully online. No need to waste time waiting at banks. No need to go from.one bank to another.

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post Aug 9 2017, 12:47 PM

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Top up myr 1000 to Ponzi 2.0
Top up myr 500 into TA GTF

setting portfolio to cruising speed while I work as hard as I can to top up any amount I earn

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 9 2017, 12:47 PM)
Top up myr 1000 to Ponzi 2.0
Top up myr 500 into TA GTF

setting portfolio to cruising speed while I work as hard as I can  to top up any amount I earn
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after this top up...
how much% you have for TA GTF and Ponzi 2.0 in relative to your portfolio?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 9 2017, 12:49 PM)
after this top up...
how much% you have for TA GTF and Ponzi 2.0 in relative to your portfolio?
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Ponzi 2.0 12%
TA GTF 7%

still in accumulation phase for
TA GTF
RHB embf
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post Aug 9 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 8 2017, 10:26 AM)
Come come. I clear your mind
Amanah saham - parking place. Anytime I want to liquidate, I can get back my money. No need few days. Even if I sell all, they will give me back all my money
FSM - going to liquidate everything.
FSM SG - never even have account with them
Phillip SG - transfer from FSM MY > Phillip SG (hence my portfolio will be all SG UT)
S-reits + S counters - slowly building my holdings. This is my main engine to generate free SGD (I can use the dividend given to buy more shares or throw it into Phillip SG)
Forex - never

Clear?
If -5% for every year that's there's no crash, shouldn't
at 10 year period, you will be holding 40% equities/60% bond?
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By the day, now that you bring this up. Isit easy to buy amanah saham? How to go about it for non-Bumi's? Heard you can only buy when someone else sells. Do advise.
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post Aug 9 2017, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(binnary @ Aug 9 2017, 12:22 PM)
why buy UT from fsm over banks?
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Aiks.. I believe the answer lies in FSM website. Do your due diligence and you would be enlightened.
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post Aug 9 2017, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 9 2017, 12:47 PM)
Top up myr 1000 to Ponzi 2.0
Top up myr 500 into TA GTF

setting portfolio to cruising speed while I work as hard as I can  to top up any amount I earn
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We're almost alike biggrin.gif

I too have top-up 2k since the latest promo to ponzi 2 thumbup.gif

Planning to add more during this promo, as well as starting TA GTF, missed the boat during the last drop.

QUOTE(skynode @ Aug 9 2017, 01:13 PM)
By the day, now that you bring this up. Isit easy to buy amanah saham? How to go about it for non-Bumi's? Heard you can only buy when someone else sells. Do advise.
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Do refer to the ASX thread, lots of useful info there, I have just open an account in their online portal too.

For now can only top up online, cannot sell yet. Maybe in the future.
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post Aug 9 2017, 02:26 PM

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Hi all, would like to ask. When I buy KGF at FSM, do I actually own the fund at Kenanga? If yes, can I check my holdings at Kenanga website?
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QUOTE(9GAG/8FACT @ Aug 9 2017, 02:26 PM)
Hi all, would like to ask. When I buy KGF at FSM, do I actually own the fund at Kenanga? If yes, can I check my holdings at Kenanga website?
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No That's why you don't get any statement letter from them in your letter box. All funds bought via FSM are under FSM name in custodian account.
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post Aug 9 2017, 02:41 PM

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Eastspring Dinasti Fund has overtaken CIMB Greater China Fund both in terms of ROI return and 3 year volatility.

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post Aug 9 2017, 04:12 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong, CMF is like a saving account to park ur money where u can use it to buy ur fund and no lag time in transaction?
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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Aug 9 2017, 04:12 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, CMF is like a saving account to park ur money where u can use it to buy ur fund and no lag time in transaction?
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from an old article....
THE BENEFITS OF THE RHB-OSK CASH MANAGEMENT FUND 2
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...an-Savings-1005
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post Aug 9 2017, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Aug 9 2017, 04:12 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, CMF is like a saving account to park ur money where u can use it to buy ur fund and no lag time in transaction?
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To me there's no difference in lag time compared to FPX transaction.

Compared to cheque , then yes.

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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 9 2017, 04:55 PM)
To me there's no difference in lag time compared to FPX transaction.

Compared to cheque , then yes.
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Oh really?
Hmm that's weird.
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Why North Korea threatened Guam, the tiny U.S. territory with big military power

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldvi...m=.8a34a5601890

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 9 2017, 06:18 PM)
Why North Korea threatened Guam, the tiny U.S. territory with big military power

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldvi...m=.8a34a5601890

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