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Ramjade
post Sep 19 2023, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Sep 19 2023, 12:16 AM)
when can FSM buy LSE stock  sad.gif
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That's why don't use FSM to buy S&P500 lo.
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post Sep 20 2023, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ May 27 2017, 12:55 PM)
I was thinking of investing into this fully managed fund. Then I can truly benchmark DIY vs fully managed.

Quick question are you able to seperately buy this fully managed in a seperate account.
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Just an update
It's been quite a while now since I invested in Managed portfolio Balanced. I've been using it as benchmark for my own DIY.

The result after roughly 6 years is .....

3.2%


Take note I added additional money to make it a round number of 10k a few years later but even that 1 year of FD can outperform managed fund.

You would expect fund managers or the people who does this fund allocation to outperform you since they do this for a living ..... but it shows that even DIY investors can easily outperform fund managers.

This post has been edited by Drian: Sep 20 2023, 02:30 PM
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post Sep 20 2023, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 20 2023, 02:27 PM)
Just an update
It's been quite a while now since I invested in Managed portfolio Balanced. I've been using it as benchmark for my own DIY.

The result after roughly 6 years is .....

3.2%


Take note I added additional money to make it a round number of 10k a few years later but even that 1 year of FD can outperform managed fund.

You would expect fund managers or the people who does this fund allocation to outperform you since they do this for a living ..... but it shows that even DIY investors can easily outperform fund managers.
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That’s why I won’t be bother with it 🤦‍♀️ consider yourself lucky still positive but if you take a look at the aggressive portfolio it will speaks volume on how they perform 🤦‍♀️ and you should also check on how many changes in the portfolio manager changes during your investing term
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 20 2023, 02:27 PM)
Just an update
It's been quite a while now since I invested in Managed portfolio Balanced. I've been using it as benchmark for my own DIY.

The result after roughly 6 years is .....

3.2%


Take note I added additional money to make it a round number of 10k a few years later but even that 1 year of FD can outperform managed fund.

You would expect fund managers or the people who does this fund allocation to outperform you since they do this for a living ..... but it shows that even DIY investors can easily outperform fund managers.
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May I know how Managed Portfolio does the selling to reap profit? Do they do it automatically or will get permission from their client first?
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post Sep 24 2023, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 20 2023, 02:27 PM)
Just an update
It's been quite a while now since I invested in Managed portfolio Balanced. I've been using it as benchmark for my own DIY.

The result after roughly 6 years is .....

3.2%


Take note I added additional money to make it a round number of 10k a few years later but even that 1 year of FD can outperform managed fund.

You would expect fund managers or the people who does this fund allocation to outperform you since they do this for a living ..... but it shows that even DIY investors can easily outperform fund managers.
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3.2 annualized or 3.2 total?



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post Sep 24 2023, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 20 2023, 02:27 PM)
Just an update
It's been quite a while now since I invested in Managed portfolio Balanced. I've been using it as benchmark for my own DIY.

The result after roughly 6 years is .....

3.2%


Take note I added additional money to make it a round number of 10k a few years later but even that 1 year of FD can outperform managed fund.

You would expect fund managers or the people who does this fund allocation to outperform you since they do this for a living ..... but it shows that even DIY investors can easily outperform fund managers.
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Whatever fund is it. Once its managed, really below par. MMF can outperform them anytime. Market are generally bad for 2021 2022 and 2023
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post Sep 24 2023, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 19 2023, 12:23 AM)
That's why don't use FSM to buy S&P500 lo.
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Only IBKR can buy LSE… so sad…
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post Sep 24 2023, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Sep 5 2023, 10:18 PM)
I'm happy with FSM and i feel that the fee is reasonable compared with UT (not IBKR).
I have no bad experience with FSM customer service nor ETF RSP.

Only thing to take note is probably there's a fix schedule monthly to sell partial unit (unit less than 1). and make sure you have sufficient fund in the cash account for the RSP.
I think the 0 processing fee is only applicable to buy orders and not sell order. Not sure anyone has any info about fees when selling.

Started RSP to VOO in May 2022 with RM200 then slowly increased to RM1000/month. So far the return is about 12% (note that the market was really good since June 2023).

Btw, this is my own experience and not financial advice to invest. I'm not an expert nor certified financial planner. Just a small duck trying to save as much as possible for golden years. 
Thanks for advice. Probably I'm just lazy to go through the whole process. Now that there's FSM, I'm happy with FSM for now. Will explore IBKR in the future if FSM disappoints me. For now I don't want to deal with a foreign investment company and I feel safer with FSM since FSM is regulated in Malaysia.
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Bro eventually you need to go IBKR..
easy oni. Set up SG MAYBANK acc also easy. Few clicks settle already.


Btw can share your portfolio haha



Mine will be BRK B, VWRA, QQQ at the ratio of 2.5 :5:2.5
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post Sep 24 2023, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Sep 1 2023, 09:46 PM)
Thanks for the recommendation. SMH looks very interesting.
Thanks for the feedback. It looked pretty same from their top 25 holding. So I did a quick check in chatgpt and got the following answer. Pretty interesting.

==== CHATGPT ====

SPY, VOO, and QQQ are all exchange-traded funds (ETFs) that are traded on the stock market, but they track different indices and have distinct characteristics. Here are the key differences between them:

Underlying Indices:

SPY (SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust): SPY tracks the S&P 500 index, which consists of 500 of the largest publicly traded companies in the United States, covering various sectors of the economy. It is designed to represent the performance of the overall U.S. stock market.

VOO (Vanguard S&P 500 ETF): VOO also tracks the S&P 500 index, so it provides similar exposure to large-cap U.S. stocks as SPY. The main difference between the two is the issuer and expense ratio, with VOO being offered by Vanguard, known for its low-cost ETFs.

QQQ (Invesco QQQ Trust): QQQ tracks the NASDAQ-100 index, which includes 100 of the largest non-financial companies listed on the NASDAQ stock exchange. These companies are often technology-focused, including major tech giants like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and Alphabet (Google).

Holdings:

SPY and VOO primarily consist of large-cap U.S. stocks, offering broad exposure to the U.S. equity market.

QQQ focuses on a narrower segment of the market, with an emphasis on technology and growth stocks. This makes it more tech-heavy compared to SPY and VOO, which have a more balanced sector allocation.

Performance and Risk:

The performance of these ETFs will vary based on the performance of their respective underlying indices. Historically, the NASDAQ-100 (tracked by QQQ) has shown more volatility and the potential for higher returns due to its tech-heavy composition, while the S&P 500 (tracked by SPY and VOO) is considered a broader representation of the overall U.S. market.

QQQ may be more volatile and may have higher potential for gains but also higher potential for losses compared to SPY and VOO.

Expense Ratios:

Expense ratios represent the annual fees charged by the ETF issuer to manage the fund. Generally, lower expense ratios are preferred by investors because they result in lower costs. VOO typically has a lower expense ratio compared to SPY, while QQQ's expense ratio is also competitive.
Dividend Yield:

SPY and VOO tend to have higher dividend yields compared to QQQ. This is because the S&P 500 index includes a broader range of companies, including those that pay dividends, while the NASDAQ-100 includes many growth-oriented companies that reinvest their profits rather than paying dividends.
In summary, the main differences between SPY, VOO, and QQQ lie in their underlying indices, sector exposures, risk profiles, and expense ratios. Your choice among these ETFs should align with your investment goals, risk tolerance, and preferences for sector exposure.
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Damnn long time i dint visit this thread. New batch really good nowadays huh. Noceee
QUOTE(smallydupe @ Sep 2 2023, 09:04 PM)
How about arkk and arkf? Or the lady boss is just full of hotair?
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Sep 24 2023, 08:24 PM)
3.2 annualized or 3.2 total?
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 25 2023, 09:15 AM)
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Better put in EPF, no point.
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 25 2023, 09:15 AM)
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Its been a brutal bear market for bonds and Emerging Markets since 2021.
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QUOTE(ehwee @ Sep 25 2023, 01:29 PM)
Better put in EPF, no point.
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This fund is just a benchmark for my ownself. Just wanted to show that fund managers are not that great and that even a diy investor here can outperform them .
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QUOTE(Drian @ Sep 25 2023, 01:45 PM)
This fund is just a benchmark for my ownself. Just wanted to show that fund managers are not that great and that even a diy investor here can outperform them .
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Basically they are not managed the fund itself 🤦‍♀️ mostly buying feeder funds on top of feeder funds of UT 🤦‍♀️ it is a mish mash of asset allocation while filling in with UT to just to satisfy the asset allocation

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post Oct 4 2023, 05:44 PM

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Any 'sifu' with experience on Bondsupermart? I'm interested in this bond with good yield i.e. LLOYDS 7.086% 31Aug2033 Corp (AUD)

https://www.fsmone.com.my/bonds/bond-express/wholesale-bonds

Never invested before so I'm still in the process of reading up/learning but hoping that experienced people can give some tips.

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post Oct 18 2023, 08:09 AM

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Bumping this tired as used FSM for a year at 2020 and withdrawed around 2021, now wanting to get back to it as getting myself back to the investment scene smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2023, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 18 2023, 08:09 AM)
Bumping this tired as used FSM for a year at 2020 and withdrawed around 2021,  now wanting to get back to it as getting myself back to the investment scene smile.gif
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i'm planning to withdraw everything from FSM. so called managed by professionals, but at this kind of rate, no difference i'm investing myself personally.
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Oct 18 2023, 09:30 AM)
i'm planning to withdraw everything from FSM. so called managed by professionals, but at this kind of rate, no difference i'm investing myself personally.
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you mean not even to hand pick own funds to buy in FSM?
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QUOTE(viktorherald @ Oct 18 2023, 11:08 AM)
you mean not even to hand pick own funds to buy in FSM?
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yea. i believe the reason they're diversifying so much into other areas like bonds, stocks, ETFs, insurance coz unit trust funds tak laku already. anyway, i don't really care. personally, i'm getting older and just prefer something more steady like EPF. all the other excitements from the ups and downs of investments, can leave to those kids/teenagers. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Oct 18 2023, 11:31 AM)
yea. i believe the reason they're diversifying so much into other areas like bonds, stocks, ETFs, insurance coz unit trust funds tak laku already. anyway, i don't really care. personally, i'm getting older and just prefer something more steady like EPF. all the other excitements from the ups and downs of investments, can leave to those kids/teenagers.  tongue.gif
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yea, u should just put your money into EPF if you are not good in investing or knowing what you are investing into biggrin.gif

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