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post Mar 21 2017, 11:06 PM

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Is the Market Expensive?

Food for thought. hmm.gif
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post Mar 21 2017, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 21 2017, 09:59 PM)
the way I see it a marriage is like an investment, you keep putting your time, money and effort into a gamble that the person stays with you and deals with the daily stuff they have to put up with while making sure you don't die from loneliness.

so yeah. it's a definite must have in every person's investment horizon.

then.... there's kids....
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post Mar 22 2017, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Mar 20 2017, 07:52 PM)
Yes boss. Topped up some Manulife US and plan to buy Ponzi 2. But Boss Xuzen prefer RHB Asian Income fund coz lower risk. Hmmmm.. what do u think ?
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 21 2017, 12:22 PM)
RHB AIF has more fixed income and REITs than equities the last time I looked at the fact sheet. Considering you have REITs and Asian bond in the portfolio, perhaps it's a better idea to have an asian equity fund instead. But of course, it's entirely up to your risk appetite and preferences. I can only comment in general terms
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Mar 21 2017, 08:37 PM)
TA global technology.

Risk score 12.5

Wtf lol
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 21 2017, 09:41 PM)
Still acceptable. Not as high as india or china.
It's either manulife us or ta global tech. I choose global tech.
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When I construct a portfolio, I need the stability of RHB AIF and the high risk, high return of TA GTF for the ommph!

The other high risk, high return UTF in my port is Manulife India. I also participate in AMReits and recently RHB EMB for a slight diversification and fixed income play.

In portfolio construction, you need these various UTF to build a good risk-adjusted performance port.

Xuzen


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post Mar 22 2017, 05:31 AM

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US market dropped >1%:

Stocks tumble, bank stocks get crushed

Stocks had their worst day of 2017 on Tuesday, as the S&P 500 broke a 109-day streak without losing 1% in a day.

URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-are-t...-160305393.html
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post Mar 22 2017, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 21 2017, 10:08 AM)
I think I have reached zen in my UT investment. I hardly think about it, check my holdings and even come over to this thread.

Does it mean I have reached enlightenment and become a master? (tongue in cheek post)
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Likewise.. But don't see myself as zen more like don't care anymore because portfolio all time high + haven't reach month end so won't top up.
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post Mar 22 2017, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 22 2017, 05:31 AM)
US market dropped >1%:

Stocks tumble, bank stocks get crushed

Stocks had their worst day of 2017 on Tuesday, as the S&P 500 broke a 109-day streak without losing 1% in a day.

URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/stocks-are-t...-160305393.html
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If my memory serves me right you have switched out a significant portion of your US exposure ?

So I guess you are doing fine.

Actually many think this is long expected, 'finally' is the word they use.

Questions for investors are :-

1. Is it going to trigger further drop in subsequent days ?
2. What is asian market reaction to this ?

I guess the test that if one has attained the zen of UT investment has finally come. sweat.gif

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post Mar 22 2017, 06:40 AM

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Is tis drops or more drops.....is the 1st time happenings?
Historically in the end, will it recovered?....
Diversify, allocate to one's risk appetide, invest with own money that is not to be touched for some time.....maybe that are the zen 😊
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 22 2017, 06:29 AM)
If my memory serves me right you have switched out a significant portion of your US exposure ?

So I guess you are doing fine.

Actually many think this is long expected, 'finally' is the word they use.

Questions for investors are :-

1. Is it going to trigger further drop in subsequent days ?
2. What is asian market reaction to this ?

I guess the test that if one has attained the zen of UT investment has finally come. sweat.gif
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Definitely not me.
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 22 2017, 08:04 AM)
Definitely not me.
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maybe I am the one he is referring to....
currently I only have about 2.5% in US thru EIGL fund
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post Mar 22 2017, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 22 2017, 08:15 AM)
maybe I am the one he is referring to....
currently I only have about 2.5% in US thru EIGL fund
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It would appear to me that Asian Market is not over reacting to this.

So this shall be fairly momentary.

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post Mar 22 2017, 09:19 AM

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Bursa warns of stock market manipulation with pump and dump schemes

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ZPWF2kHpYe4U.99


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post Mar 22 2017, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Mar 22 2017, 09:19 AM)
Bursa warns of stock market manipulation with pump and dump schemes

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ZPWF2kHpYe4U.99
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Ooops.
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post Mar 22 2017, 09:35 AM

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Btw, the FSM rep posted on Cari Chinese forum thread that ponzi 1.0 will have a soft close soon for cash investment. In the next few weeks. Apparently fund manager want to control the fund size

So for those who wants to enter, please take note.
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post Mar 22 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Mar 22 2017, 09:35 AM)
Btw, the FSM rep posted on Cari Chinese forum thread that ponzi 1.0 will have a soft close soon for cash investment. In the next few weeks. Apparently fund manager want to control the fund size

So for those who wants to enter, please take note.
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Interesting. Affin Hwang fund managers are mostly having this kind of idea. David Ng said the same thing to his fund too.
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post Mar 22 2017, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 22 2017, 12:45 AM)
When I construct a portfolio, I need the stability of RHB AIF and the high risk, high return of TA GTF for the ommph!

The other high risk, high return UTF in my port is Manulife India. I also participate in AMReits and recently RHB EMB for a slight diversification and fixed income play.

In portfolio construction, you need these various UTF to build a good risk-adjusted performance port.

Xuzen
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Other than risk adjusted returns, do you also consider correlation of funds or geographical markets?

No Msia equities?
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post Mar 22 2017, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Mar 22 2017, 09:58 AM)
Other than risk adjusted returns, do you also consider correlation of funds or geographical markets?

No Msia equities?
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Good man, of course I do, of course I do!

I am not in a hurry to expose to Malaysia equity at the moment because the risk adjusted performance of Malaysia equity is below par vis-à-vis Asia Pac or other geo-region.

Besides I am indirectly exposed to Malaysia equity through KWSP and that is why I am in no hurry to get into the action.

Xuzen

This post has been edited by xuzen: Mar 22 2017, 10:03 AM
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post Mar 22 2017, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Mar 22 2017, 09:58 AM)
Other than risk adjusted returns, do you also consider correlation of funds or geographical markets?

No Msia equities?
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btw, how do you / where do you get the data for correlation of funds (in MYR context)?
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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Mar 22 2017, 09:58 AM)
Other than risk adjusted returns, do you also consider correlation of funds or geographical markets?

No Msia equities?
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btw, how do you / where do you get the data for correlation of funds (in MYR context)?
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post Mar 22 2017, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 22 2017, 10:17 AM)
btw, how do you / where do you get the data for correlation of funds (in MYR context)?
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My nick already suggested I couldn't get it lor sweat.gif

I wish to have it too. In lieu of that, I do guesswork lor. Like ponzi 1.0 doesn't seem to be highly correlated to ponzi 2.0 although they are in the same segment since ponzi 1.0 is mainly in asean and ponzi is aussie, HK and india
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post Mar 22 2017, 10:48 AM

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