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post Nov 21 2017, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 21 2017, 01:27 PM)
hmm.gif what i would do is depends.....
1) if i have extra money and the allocation on IDS is still a small %...then i would top up
2) if i have other more potential funds that i think can get better returns, i would sell IDS to buy those funds...provided i don't have extra cash and there is no other funds that has over limited the % in their allocation which i could sell off the extras %, and i have other funds that helps cover my M'sia small cap segment of my portfolio.
3) if this current down trends of IDS makes me sleepless....i would sell it off to kill off the pain

why do you want to sell or switch?
does this falls on IDS only or does other similar peers also falls?
(most probably the falls rate of IDS is more than others, but have you observed that it has gone up at a fster rate then others too?)
how much % of IDS is in your portfolio?
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Im holding 50% for IDS.
IDS mainly invest in KLSE, I think KLSE is bearish now. So thinking to switch to some other market in the SEA or ASEAN.

Initially I was holding 20% IDS, then the performance is good, top up until 50%. lol


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post Nov 21 2017, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(tcgien @ Nov 21 2017, 01:13 PM)
Anyone holding Interpac Dana Safi?

The chart is showing bearish. Should I sell or switch it to other fund?
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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Nov 21 2017, 01:23 PM)
Everyone is so interested in the performance of IDS lately. Looks like some may have gotten burned when IDS was hotly promoted here. Steady my friends.. give it time.

I wish they have more updated fund fact sheet though.
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just wondering what happened to the cat that was going big into IDS? forgotten his nick.
is he buying or selling now? hmm.gif no right answer...just outlook.

QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 21 2017, 01:34 PM)
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Only those that might have thought they are an aggressive investor who can cope with a high level of risk. However, in practice, if they find that they always panic too soon every time the market dips, and get overly euphoric and pump in more money whenever markets are on a roll, then high-risk investments may not so suitable for them because they are likely to cause them to lose money.

Sui Jau's ....
"The most important advice I would give to anyone who hasn't started (be it man or woman) and is being held back is to starting investing now, but use a small amount. Something you are comfortable with even if you suffer losses. It can be as little as one thousand dollars because that is usually all you need to start investing into a unit trust. Then, as you invest, you will see how markets and such affect your returns and you will be able to learn from your experiences without suffering too much heartache compared to if you placed your entire life savings into the market and lose half of it in a market crash. The key thing is you have to accumulate investing experience. No amount of prior reading up and accumulating of knowledge can compare with actual investing experience which can only be built up by using your own money to invest. You have to experience the emotional pull that comes from market ups and downs and learn how to handle your emotions during those times. And learning from mistakes made is the greatest teacher."

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this ability to cope with risk is relative to amount too...at least to me.
put in 1 week salary equivalent...crash boom bang no feeling. steel ball.
put in 1 month salary...become tennis ball.
put in 1year salary sweat.gif
of course this also depend on total available liquid asset. if got 10yr saving fund, steel ball again laugh.gif
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post Nov 21 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(tcgien @ Nov 21 2017, 02:23 PM)
Im holding 50% for IDS.
IDS mainly invest in KLSE, I think KLSE is bearish now. So thinking to switch to some other market in the SEA or ASEAN.

Initially I was holding 20% IDS, then the performance is good, top up until 50%. lol
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thumbup.gif to me, you have steel balls.... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
few month back there was a forummer who only has IDS and IDE in his port.... he made abt 30% profits in just few months notworthy.gif
doh.gif if i am at this high 50%, i would switch 40% out to maintain a portfolio of 35% Asia Pac (via Ponzi 2.0) and 5% greater china ....chicken me.

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post Nov 21 2017, 03:20 PM

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what happen to all counters? all reddish.
T231H
post Nov 21 2017, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Nov 21 2017, 03:20 PM)
what happen to all counters? all reddish.
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you mean KLCI counters today?
if yes,...may i suggest you post at the stock market thread
for i think you will most probably find the answers to your post there.
in here, i leave that queries to the FMs of my unit trust funds.

This post has been edited by T231H: Nov 21 2017, 03:29 PM
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post Nov 21 2017, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(tcgien @ Nov 21 2017, 02:23 PM)
Im holding 50% for IDS.
IDS mainly invest in KLSE, I think KLSE is bearish now. So thinking to switch to some other market in the SEA or ASEAN.

Initially I was holding 20% IDS, then the performance is good, top up until 50%. lol
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hmm.gif must have read this eh?.... biggrin.gif

Malaysia Becomes Asia's Worst Stock Market as Election Looms
(Bloomberg) -- Malaysia’s FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index has turned out to be the worst Asian equity gauge so far this year with less than 5 percent growth. 
And an undetermined election date isn’t helping.
Even as it received the most foreign inflows this year in Southeast Asia, the nation’s benchmark measure has continued to lag behind all its major regional peers from Hong Kong to India -- some of whose gauges have rallied more than 25 percent this year. 
https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/news/malays...ocid=spartanntp

sweat.gif Cabut now or die like the rest? devil.gif
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post Nov 21 2017, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 21 2017, 04:16 PM)
hmm.gif must have read this eh?.... biggrin.gif

Malaysia Becomes Asia's Worst Stock Market as Election Looms
(Bloomberg) -- Malaysia’s FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index has turned out to be the worst Asian equity gauge so far this year with less than 5 percent growth. 
And an undetermined election date isn’t helping.
Even as it received the most foreign inflows this year in Southeast Asia, the nation’s benchmark measure has continued to lag behind all its major regional peers from Hong Kong to India -- some of whose gauges have rallied more than 25 percent this year. 
https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/news/malays...ocid=spartanntp

sweat.gif Cabut now or die like the rest?  devil.gif
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So far didnt see any movement from managed portfolio, i would say nothing is fundamentally change... whistling.gif
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post Nov 21 2017, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 21 2017, 04:21 PM)
So far didnt see any movement from managed portfolio, i would say nothing is fundamentally change... whistling.gif
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They could have position it months before when they placed msia at a lower star rating then others....
If those that moves now maybe too late or at a lower end of the trend
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post Nov 21 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 21 2017, 04:27 PM)
They could have position it months before when they placed msia at a lower star rating then others....
If those that moves now maybe too late or at a lower end of the trend
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But if you see the MY funds allocation arent really low, 18% (EQ+FI) or so.... hmm.gif

FBMSCAP -1.07 bye.gif

This post has been edited by funnyface: Nov 21 2017, 04:59 PM
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post Nov 21 2017, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Nov 21 2017, 04:30 PM)
But if you see the MY funds allocation arent really low, 18% (EQ+FI) or so....  hmm.gif

FBMSCAP -1.07  bye.gif
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... no sweat if local fund is 10% or less. Most portforlios could be at record peak... again.

HSI +1.91%
HSCEI +2.91%
TAIEX +1.08%
NIKKEI 225 +0.70%
STI +1.09%

KOSPI also positive... +0.12%

Those who had bought and topped up during last week's dip... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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post Nov 21 2017, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 21 2017, 04:16 PM)
hmm.gif must have read this eh?.... biggrin.gif

Malaysia Becomes Asia's Worst Stock Market as Election Looms
(Bloomberg) -- Malaysia’s FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index has turned out to be the worst Asian equity gauge so far this year with less than 5 percent growth. 
And an undetermined election date isn’t helping.
Even as it received the most foreign inflows this year in Southeast Asia, the nation’s benchmark measure has continued to lag behind all its major regional peers from Hong Kong to India -- some of whose gauges have rallied more than 25 percent this year. 
https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/news/malays...ocid=spartanntp

sweat.gif Cabut now or die like the rest?  devil.gif
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I saw this news too. I think now is year end. CNY is coming. Many people take profit and run?
Lol

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post Nov 21 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 21 2017, 03:19 PM)
thumbup.gif to me, you have steel balls.... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
few month back there was a forummer who only has IDS and IDE in his port.... he made abt 30% profits in just few months notworthy.gif
doh.gif if i am at this high 50%, i would switch 40% out to maintain a portfolio of 35% Asia Pac (via Ponzi 2.0) and 5% greater china ....chicken me.
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Yes. I made 20- 30% for IDS and IDE.
So I keep my many eggs in this basket.
It's time to switch to ASEAN like CIMB China India Indonesia and Asia Pacific

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post Nov 21 2017, 08:49 PM

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3 M = Red non stop.

<5% per annum not far.... LOL
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post Nov 21 2017, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Nov 21 2017, 08:49 PM)
RHB EMB

3 M = Red non stop.

<5% per annum not far.... LOL
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yet they still do distribution...I cannot brain why.
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Nov 21 2017, 08:57 PM)
yet they still do distribution...I cannot brain why.
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I think it is bcos, the fund has made gains or income bcos "Distribution of income should only be made from realised gains or realised income."
Mkts up down is just paper prices variations...no disposal of holdings... no lost or gains ?

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 21 2017, 09:15 PM)
I think it is bcos, the fund has made gains or income bcos "Distribution of income should only be made from realised gains or realised income."
Mkts up down is just paper prices variations...no disposal of holdings... no lost or gains ?
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hmm true it may...it is on apparent diminishing amounts. shakehead.gif
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post Nov 21 2017, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Nov 21 2017, 06:32 PM)
... no sweat if local fund is 10% or less. Most portforlios could be at record peak... again.

HSI +1.91%
HSCEI +2.91%
TAIEX +1.08%
NIKKEI 225 +0.70%
STI +1.09%

KOSPI also positive... +0.12%

Those who had bought and topped up during last week's dip... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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but then ROI kena hit by our strong currency... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Nov 22 2017, 10:08 AM

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Dear sifus, i just started FSM 4 months ago. The below is my current portfolio. Just wanted your opinion if my current allocation is ok? Does anyone invested in Malaysia region funds? It seems my Eastpring Malaysia fund is not that performing.


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post Nov 22 2017, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Nov 22 2017, 10:08 AM)
Dear sifus, i just started FSM 4 months ago. The below is my current portfolio. Just wanted your opinion if my current allocation is ok? Does anyone invested in Malaysia region funds? It seems my Eastpring Malaysia fund is not that performing.
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Suggest you add some global/US flavor into your port, eg TA global tech.
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Current port. not bad. profit still maintain 4 digits

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