bye bye zen 5series.
AMD Ryzen, AM4 / AM5 Platform
AMD Ryzen, AM4 / AM5 Platform
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Oct 14 2021, 05:58 PM
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Elite
6,799 posts Joined: Jan 2003 |
bye bye zen 5series.
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Oct 15 2021, 12:02 PM
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3,466 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: PJ, Malaysia |
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Oct 16 2021, 08:40 AM
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So I recenty got myself 4 sticks of ddr 3600 replacing 2 sticks of ddr 3200.
After installing 4 sticks speed was at 3200. I tried to manually put 3600 which made the system go haywire and it reverted back to a 2400. I then finally used DOCP(something like XMP)to get the RAM running at the advertised speed as per spec. In the long run there wouldn't be any side effects, right? The only issue I presume I will face in the future is during bios upgrades as it will knock it back to 2400. |
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Oct 16 2021, 09:16 AM
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5,261 posts Joined: Oct 2004 From: J@Y B33 |
QUOTE(John Chaser @ Oct 16 2021, 08:40 AM) So I recenty got myself 4 sticks of ddr 3600 replacing 2 sticks of ddr 3200. RAM advertise speed is from DOCP/XMP overclock. Else it only run at default DDR4 speed.After installing 4 sticks speed was at 3200. I tried to manually put 3600 which made the system go haywire and it reverted back to a 2400. I then finally used DOCP(something like XMP)to get the RAM running at the advertised speed as per spec. In the long run there wouldn't be any side effects, right? The only issue I presume I will face in the future is during bios upgrades as it will knock it back to 2400. Possible issues with overclock RAM is memory error. You should run memory test to make sure no error. I usually use Testmem5. John Chaser liked this post
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Oct 22 2021, 07:52 AM
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Elite
24,351 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Setapak, Kuala Lumpur |
New chipset driver for Windows 11 out.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570 Windows 11 performance fix also out on Windows Update. This post has been edited by TristanX: Oct 22 2021, 07:56 AM |
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Oct 22 2021, 08:35 AM
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KB5006746 is the Windows 11 update to fix L3 cache latency. After update, become build 22000.282
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Oct 23 2021, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Oct 22 2021, 07:52 AM) New chipset driver for Windows 11 out. i seem can't find the driver for 5600X.https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570 Windows 11 performance fix also out on Windows Update. |
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Oct 23 2021, 11:52 PM
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Elite
24,351 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Setapak, Kuala Lumpur |
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Oct 24 2021, 09:30 AM
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edmund_yung, krpto88, and 1 other liked this post
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Oct 24 2021, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Oct 24 2021, 09:30 AM) Lol…AMD fans must support support |
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Oct 24 2021, 07:59 PM
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Elite
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QUOTE(AMD64 FX51 @ Oct 24 2021, 05:17 PM) better they keep their dough come this novMY no fans of camp. only white ppl stupid defending stuff they buy so cheap This post has been edited by cstkl1: Oct 24 2021, 08:00 PM AMD64 FX51 and SSJBen liked this post
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Oct 26 2021, 12:33 PM
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AMD's 3D V-Cache-refreshed Ryzen chips are slated to start production in November, hints tipster
QUOTE In AMD's initial announcement, Team Red claimed that the new CPUs could deliver as much as 15 percent higher performance thanks to the V-Cache technology. Those that planning to buy 5000 series, better wait few more months. |
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Oct 26 2021, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Oct 23 2021, 11:27 PM) By right, you have to upgrade your BIOS and chipset driver. You can read thru your motherboard spec and driver available. Whether needed to upgrade BIOS first before upgrade the chipset driver. Usually, if your BIOS is too old version required by the chipset driver, it will prompt you a message and installation will fail.QUOTE(TristanX @ Oct 23 2021, 11:52 PM) Chipset is not motherboard. Chipset is a components on the motherboard to be precisely. |
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Oct 27 2021, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 26 2021, 12:33 PM) AMD's 3D V-Cache-refreshed Ryzen chips are slated to start production in November, hints tipster Basically XT variant. Those that planning to buy 5000 series, better wait few more months. Would be intersting to see vcache be implemented on 5950x..... |
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Oct 27 2021, 04:10 PM
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Elite
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Oct 27 2021, 04:18 PM
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Actually don't have high hopes for their 3D v-cache either. Zen 3 is complicated enough as is, just tacking on massive amounts of L3 isn't going to alleviate the problems it already has. This is just a stop gap for AMD so they can have something to compete with ADL (eventhough it's a futile attempt) so that they have a buffer before launching Zen 4.
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Oct 27 2021, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 27 2021, 04:18 PM) Actually don't have high hopes for their 3D v-cache either. Zen 3 is complicated enough as is, just tacking on massive amounts of L3 isn't going to alleviate the problems it already has. This is just a stop gap for AMD so they can have something to compete with ADL (eventhough it's a futile attempt) so that they have a buffer before launching Zen 4. Im very curious how hot will it be. Right now then zen3 is already running at max 90C all the time... now stacking a super hot L3 cache and then with a thicker die. That's playing with fire. |
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Oct 28 2021, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 27 2021, 04:10 PM) hai. zen ppl report report. Not me. But I also think it's not good to trash talk competitors product just because you don't like it.3d cache just going to make things worse see intel fiasco from 8700k to 10900k cache upping. QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 27 2021, 04:18 PM) Actually don't have high hopes for their 3D v-cache either. Zen 3 is complicated enough as is, just tacking on massive amounts of L3 isn't going to alleviate the problems it already has. This is just a stop gap for AMD so they can have something to compete with ADL (eventhough it's a futile attempt) so that they have a buffer before launching Zen 4. Maybe it to complement their SAM.The main disadvantage I see with Ryzen compare to ADL is it doesn't have efficiency cores to handle background task when main cores doing intensive work. Anyway, ADL hype train marketing have started in the media now. |
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Oct 28 2021, 10:37 AM
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Elite
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Oct 28 2021, 02:44 AM) I have to wait border reopen cuz singkie price is insane markup..... so i may as well skip this gen afterall my 10600K is still blazing fast. I planned to get rocketlake but scrapped the plan because this 10600k is good enough lol. I'll just wait till 13th gen. By then should have many SS to get things started QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 28 2021, 09:52 AM) Not me. But I also think it's not good to trash talk competitors product just because you don't like it. trash talking intel & amd and u see only AMDMaybe it to complement their SAM. The main disadvantage I see with Ryzen compare to ADL is it doesn't have efficiency cores to handle background task when main cores doing intensive work. Anyway, ADL hype train marketing have started in the media now. talking about flaws. not hiding or being in denial about it dude. rkl fixed , adl improved. amd shorterm answer seems like a repeat of intel doing 9th and 10th gen which is flawed with paririty issues. This post has been edited by cstkl1: Oct 28 2021, 10:43 AM SSJBen liked this post
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Nov 11 2021, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 27 2021, 04:18 PM) Actually don't have high hopes for their 3D v-cache either. Zen 3 is complicated enough as is, just tacking on massive amounts of L3 isn't going to alleviate the problems it already has. This is just a stop gap for AMD so they can have something to compete with ADL (eventhough it's a futile attempt) so that they have a buffer before launching Zen 4. Probably enough to claw back the lead in some gaming benchmarks (some titles benefit a lot from memory latency and show huge benefits on Samsung B-die with low timings or specialty CPUs with high cache like Intel's Broadwell quadcores), no improvement in other tools. Might be harder to cool too. |
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