AMD Ryzen, AM4 / AM5 Platform
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 Apr 8 2021, 09:52 PM
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Just to update.. seems after upgrade to latest bios for MSI x570 tomahawk WiFi ; I don't get random BSOD
so all these while it's not cpu issue.. most ppl complaint whea error and rma the CPU... But most likely it is because driver issue on AGESA |
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Apr 8 2021, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 8 2021, 09:52 PM) Just to update.. seems after upgrade to latest bios for MSI x570 tomahawk WiFi ; I don't get random BSOD Can be a combination of many things. One of the frustrations of Ryzen is that it's difficult to pin point the exact problem.so all these while it's not cpu issue.. most ppl complaint whea error and rma the CPU... But most likely it is because driver issue on AGESA  |
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Apr 8 2021, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 8 2021, 09:52 PM) Just to update.. seems after upgrade to latest bios for MSI x570 tomahawk WiFi ; I don't get random BSOD That's what ive been complaining since 2019. AMD makes good cpu but their AGESA messed it up. Regardless of how many time you change cpu, change motherboard, change ram etc, as long as the AGESA is bugged, it will stay bugged.so all these while it's not cpu issue.. most ppl complaint whea error and rma the CPU... But most likely it is because driver issue on AGESA |
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Apr 8 2021, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 8 2021, 09:52 PM) Just to update.. seems after upgrade to latest bios for MSI x570 tomahawk WiFi ; I don't get random BSOD Eh, did it reduce the overall boost / performance or make the boost less aggressive ?so all these while it's not cpu issue.. most ppl complaint whea error and rma the CPU... But most likely it is because driver issue on AGESA This post has been edited by targon: Apr 8 2021, 11:09 PM |
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Apr 9 2021, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(targon @ Apr 8 2021, 11:07 PM) Eh, did it reduce the overall boost / performance or make the boost less aggressive ? im running on stock ; only mem oc to 3600hence no difference to my daily usage..just no random BSOD previously I got random BSOD when using MS Teams |
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Apr 10 2021, 05:50 PM
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After revert to previous firmware I still get hang during idle.
So I change to new beta firmware again and off course still hang during idle. What is that... Later I decide play with manual value input for RAM after select the XMP setting profile 1. The manual value input of multiply totally fixed my issue, now no more hang during idle. I think XMP implementation support in AMD really not that good. Actually I didn’t face idle hang issue very long already but it is return after I turn on resizable bar and more than 4G. Thanks lucky the manual value multiply entry solve the hanging in idle issue. This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 10 2021, 06:20 PM |
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Apr 11 2021, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(MrSpeedy @ Mar 31 2021, 07:17 PM) https://amanz.my/2021279029/ just to let you know, if you don't mind waiting till May/June, 5600x back on Amazon preorder for $350 including import/shipping.TSMC reported to have increase silicon price at 25% by the end of this year. Should I grab 5600X @ RM1599 (RM200 above MSRP) right now??? This is a sad year for PC enthusiasts. EDIT: I also want to blame AMD for not keeping MSRP Ryzen 5 Zen3 as previous Zen2 (5600X is twice the price as 3600). Now 3600 used also sells like new set.  |
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Apr 12 2021, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(svfn @ Apr 11 2021, 08:41 PM) just to let you know, if you don't mind waiting till May/June, 5600x back on Amazon preorder for $350 including import/shipping. Still more expensive than 5600X price at launch, thanks to USD going up again.Hopefully those who bought get their import fees deposit refunded later. |
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Apr 12 2021, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(svfn @ Apr 11 2021, 08:41 PM) just to let you know, if you don't mind waiting till May/June, 5600x back on Amazon preorder for $350 including import/shipping. QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Apr 12 2021, 07:25 AM) Still more expensive than 5600X price at launch, thanks to USD going up again. even though much expensive than retail ; at least its not cut-throat price like gfx cardHopefully those who bought get their import fees deposit refunded later. but if you willing to pay rm200 premium.. maybe can also ask local sellers |
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Apr 12 2021, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(svfn @ Apr 11 2021, 08:41 PM) just to let you know, if you don't mind waiting till May/June, 5600x back on Amazon preorder for $350 including import/shipping. Wow thanks! That’s better than buying from local seller who hike the price AND force bundle. |
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Apr 12 2021, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 12 2021, 08:54 AM) even though much expensive than retail ; at least its not cut-throat price like gfx card local sellers all quote 1.6K with full bundle currently. Been surveying around to build a flight sim rig for a friend... but since it will have like 10+ USB control devices being plug in, that will be another consideration since there's still no news on the USB fix.but if you willing to pay rm200 premium.. maybe can also ask local sellers |
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Apr 12 2021, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Apr 12 2021, 07:25 AM) Still more expensive than 5600X price at launch, thanks to USD going up again. i think import fees also increased, last time it shows as 0 strangely. well, there's still Taobao but it's also around 1400. good for these that itch to upgrade on B450, though i feel it is better to save for next gen unless you need extra juice. intel is better buy for 6 core line if building new, B550 boards also not cheap unless ASrock.Hopefully those who bought get their import fees deposit refunded later. |
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Apr 12 2021, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 12 2021, 02:38 PM) since there's still no news on the USB fix. Didn't they promised to fix this ? So far, they are dragging their feet on this. |
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Apr 12 2021, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 12 2021, 02:38 PM) local sellers all quote 1.6K with full bundle currently. Been surveying around to build a flight sim rig for a friend... but since it will have like 10+ USB control devices being plug in, that will be another consideration since there's still no news on the USB fix. aint it now flood with the USB Fix since 2 week ago? QUOTE Version 3501 Beta Version 2021/04/08 20.43 MBytes ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO BIOS 3501 "- Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.2 - Fix USB connectivity issue Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (C8DH.CAP) using BIOSRenamer. Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usability of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS." SHOW MORE DESCRIPTION Version 3401 2021/03/20 20.43 MBytes ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO BIOS 3401 - Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.1 Patch A - Fix USB connectivity issue Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (C8DH.CAP) using BIOSRenamer. |
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Apr 12 2021, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(targon @ Apr 12 2021, 05:28 PM) Didn't they promised to fix this ? So far, they are dragging their feet on this. Already fixed since AGESA 1201 Patch A.Those complaining still not fixed need to check their devices instead. |
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Apr 12 2021, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 12 2021, 09:54 PM) Already fixed since AGESA 1201 Patch A. My friend one still kena leiii.... I cucuk my HDD then once in a while it will ding dong but this HDD is running fine on my rig. But it did improve la...... last time cannot detect at all, now can tahan like 10+ minutes.Those complaining still not fixed need to check their devices instead. but the USB type C works fine... so he cucuk HDD to the USB C port with an adapter. This post has been edited by Bonchi: Apr 12 2021, 10:53 PM |
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Apr 12 2021, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 12 2021, 10:52 PM) My friend one still kena leiii.... I cucuk my HDD then once in a while it will ding dong but this HDD is running fine on my rig. But it did improve la...... last time cannot detect at all, now can tahan like 10+ minutes. Yesterday I just backed up 10TB worth of movies to a new drive, went without a hitch. Held speed at 150+MB/s constant, which is much better than before where it would fluctuate from 30 to 100MB/s.but the USB type C works fine... so he cucuk HDD to the USB C port with an adapter. |
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Apr 13 2021, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 12 2021, 11:10 PM) Yesterday I just backed up 10TB worth of movies to a new drive, went without a hitch. Held speed at 150+MB/s constant, which is much better than before where it would fluctuate from 30 to 100MB/s. I guess just like forever, the severity of the issue varies between different setup. My current intel rig is not flawless either, Or perhaps it is my MSI Z490 board.. there's one red USB port which is apparently exclusively for mouse with some mumbo-jumbo "advanced gaming" feature but it bugged with my mouse/keyboard lolol. gets "device descriptor request failed error". But it works with my DAC flawlessly so I ignored the issue. |
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Apr 13 2021, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Apr 12 2021, 10:52 PM) My friend one still kena leiii.... I cucuk my HDD then once in a while it will ding dong but this HDD is running fine on my rig. But it did improve la...... last time cannot detect at all, now can tahan like 10+ minutes. I connect plenty USB device and never face any ding dong issue, include external HDD, the copying in and out data is working perfectly fine. I had try in any type of USB up to USB-C.but the USB type C works fine... so he cucuk HDD to the USB C port with an adapter. This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 13 2021, 01:16 AM |
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Apr 13 2021, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 13 2021, 01:15 AM) I connect plenty USB device and never face any ding dong issue, include external HDD, the copying in and out data is working perfectly fine. I had try in any type of USB up to USB-C. Maybe cuz my HDD is an old school USB 2.0 external sata case HDD but it works on my intel rig, so I dunno. I lost this cable, so maybe if I used this then no problems on AMD... but at the moment it didnt work on my friend's AMD but it works on mine own rig. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « But glad to know that it has improved and AMD did try to fix the problem even though it took them 1 year to admit... so it should get better eventually... Now wonder if they will fix the idle boosting problem or not. This post has been edited by Bonchi: Apr 13 2021, 01:33 AM |
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