no worries, I get the frustration when you won't know when WHEA creeps onto you.
My CP2077 gameplay crashed left/right until I was forced to grind so I can end a mission quick before the game crash.
To the extent that I reset bios stock, barebone stock ram, cpu, gpu all stock but then still crashed.
Friend's intel plays the game just fine with no crashes.

ever considered you got a potato chip?

TBH 99% of people who post comments like yours usually are fanboys blowing air on their products and actually don't know anyone behind the scenes. If your sources are right, you can link back to that and say "told you so" once the news actually comes out lol.

DDR4-6000 on air sounds great nonetheless. revE or B-die though?

At any rate that poster on 4650G and the RAM LN2 pot shows one huge advantage monolithic has over chiplet design - RAM speeds can go higher on Zen2/3 APUs vs the Zen2/3 7nm + 12nm IO die design. I'm struggling to get my 5800X + Asrock B550 Phantom Gaming ITX + Ballistix 3200C16 dual rank to 3800 in coupled mode. The RAM does 3800 easily when decoupled from IF, I can boot IF on 3800 and pass TM5 anta777 config with my RAM kit on XMP timings too, but can't seem to do both together. Not sure if it's down to CPU, or BIOS at this point.

problem is problem, whether it be AMD or Intel.

It's just people who can't look at the problem objectively and solve the issue.
normally they comment without really understanding TS's issue, then just proceed to inject their experience that's not helpful at all.

in many cases, just a mock like you guys said.

That's true. I'm sure Zen 2 would still keep selling like hotcakes even if Zen 3 wasn't released last year. AMD like die die want to release something that isn't ready yet just to get the e peen points over intel.

they were already winning.

they could have launched a monolithic version of 5600/5800x and won the gaming part.

so far i see 5950x user the most hit. literally 50:50 can work.

True, those with 2 CCDs seems to report lotta problem while users with single CCD rarely reports any issue.

Single CCD has issues with heat. Rarely see 5800x user not complain about temps.

they were already winning.

they could have launched a monolithic version of 5600/5800x and won the gaming part.

so far i see 5950x user the most hit. literally 50:50 can work.

Single CCD has issues with heat. Rarely see 5800x user not complain about temps.

Ah yes, heat issue.

Meanwhile dual CCDs mostly has PCIE4.0 issue, audio crackling/pop, random reboot, cold boot issue, WHEA error, USB random disconnection.
Then there is an issue with weak cores within 16 cores. Found several users reporting their 5950x/5900x has few weak cores that error-ed the system into blue screen on default idle voltage. They are only able to fix it by using curve optimizer functionality to specifically feed more voltage into the weaker cores on idle.

the whole point of fast ram being beneficial on ryzen is for the coupled mode to increase the IF bandwidth. Without that it’s quite pointless for reaching those ram speeds but sacrificing on the interconnect bandwidth.

If there are other people claiming they can reach those speeds with the same bios then it’s probably down to the cpu/ram/psu already.

That's true. I'm sure Zen 2 would still keep selling like hotcakes even if Zen 3 wasn't released last year. AMD like die die want to release something that isn't ready yet just to get the e peen points over intel.

Single CCD has issues with heat. Rarely see 5800x user not complain about temps.

It's just an epeen contest with high RAM speeds. Although IIRC Anandtech did review a Corsair 5000 kit that showed a small improvement over the fastest kits for Ryzen in spite of the decoupled IF/uncore to RAM clock.

It's just an epeen contest with high RAM speeds. Although IIRC Anandtech did review a Corsair 5000 kit that showed a small improvement over the fastest kits for Ryzen in spite of the decoupled IF/uncore to RAM clock.
Gotta hit their release cycle every 5 quarters for Zen...
All the workload dumped on a tiny 7nm CPU die, no surprise. Saw that with my 5800X on prime95 too. NH-C14S isn't too efficient at cooling it, only 3/7 heatpipes are properly utilised on that one. My old CPU (3770K) also had similar problems vs Sandy Bridge at high clockspeeds too - the smaller die led to less efficient heat transfer to the IHS even with lower power draw vs Sandy, and Intel compounded the issue by switching from solder to paste too.

Another reason monolithic is better on consumer CPUs - the IO/SOC section on the same die can help transfer heat from the cores to the IHS better.

bro. u are confusing anand noobs with actual "5k" ram oc.

but generally for zen the architecture prefers 1:1

wait till u see rocketlake debunk this silly notion

Every time I drop by this ryzen thread sure got some performance haggle issues reported (I havent even drop in OCN even)

It seems that this ryzen zen 3 is only good on paper, and also a straw launch. (not even paper launch, at least RTX 3080 and 3090s comes every 2 weeks or so)
Without a minimum of DDR4 3200 CL14 or DDR4 3600 CL16, I dont know if 5900x can beat i9 10900K. If theres something to learn, its that AMD are shills. And youtubers words cannot pakai wan if you buy a PC to game more than anything else - they run it on High end motherboards, under a controlled setting, maybe also paid reviews some of them.

U are not going to run cinebench, prime 95 all day long, certainly 80% gamers are casual group, also do not overclock like those youtubers do.
U buy the PC to instruct it to game lar. And instruct the CPU, I want you sit at this X Ghz all day long because this is the money I invested on you. 
Until now many of u are still running benchmarks to see whether the zen 3 stable ka, temperature ok ka, voltage ok ka. 2 months + already, waiting for AGESA updates (stability stability stability every update is it even a stability update why every time call it stability update)

Finally good luck playing the bsod roulette.

There is also another aspect to be put into perspective.

A lot of Zen 2 and 3 owners, many of them were upgrading from Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge era. So the perf jump that they are experiencing has already skewed their perception into how large of a jump it has been, thus creating the AMD love.