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post Jan 6 2021, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Jan 6 2021, 11:57 AM)
This is not the only thread. There's other as well in OCN.
Ppl just turned a blind eye if it works.
Failure rate on ryzen 9 5000 is high. Especially 5950x.
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Maybe Linus Torvalds don't know things.
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post Jan 6 2021, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 6 2021, 11:48 AM)
If only Linus Torvalds read this tread then only he will know how unreliable AMD is.
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To be frank, there are posts on this thread that overblows the issue a little too much. Just like the Intel hate threads on reddit and OCN, lots of bs that is overblown there too.

It's just the nature of the internet and open forums.
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post Jan 6 2021, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jan 6 2021, 12:06 PM)
Maybe Linus Torvalds don't know things.
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he’s probably crashing like no tomorrow and end up running on VM right now lol.

Then again he only mention good about the price per core and ECC support on threadrippers/Epyc jer. Which is the basis of his switch laugh.gif. Nothing to do with ryzens.
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post Jan 6 2021, 04:40 PM

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Gigabyte BIOS gone final for AGESA 1.1.0.0 D

https://www.gigabyte.com/my/Motherboard/B55...support-dl-bios

Many Gigabyte B550 and X570 as well.

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post Jan 6 2021, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 6 2021, 04:40 PM)
Bonchi
Gigabyte BIOS gone final for AGESA 1.1.0.0 D

https://www.gigabyte.com/my/Motherboard/B55...support-dl-bios

Many Gigabyte B550 and X570 as well.
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Thanks for the information, Aorus Elite WiFi also got final version of AGESA 1.1.0.0 D, updating now. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 6 2021, 08:44 PM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MAG...-WIFI#down-bios

do u guys think this BIOS covers the undervolt?


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post Jan 7 2021, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Jan 5 2021, 06:45 PM)
Thanks alot for sharing it. I will buy this set then. Cheap and nice. Was considering a very expensive set from Amazon.

Do you want to sell yours since you finished playing with it? Hehe
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post Jan 7 2021, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 6 2021, 04:40 PM)
Bonchi
Gigabyte BIOS gone final for AGESA 1.1.0.0 D

https://www.gigabyte.com/my/Motherboard/B55...support-dl-bios

Many Gigabyte B550 and X570 as well.
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Thanks for the info.
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post Jan 7 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Jan 7 2021, 01:58 AM)
Thanks alot for sharing it. I will buy this set then. Cheap and nice. Was considering a very expensive set from Amazon.

Do you want to sell yours since you finished playing with it? Hehe
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Just buy new 😅
I'll be keeping it n sell the rev e kit I was using. Easier to OC hence easier to assist ppl setting that up.

Just working on the second DJR kit I got, that one is a bit different. Will update my post in OC thread with results of that one by tomorrow night.
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post Jan 7 2021, 11:49 AM

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What 64GB (2x32GB) memory kit/s is/are recommended for Zen 3? Currently, Corsair Vengeance LPX, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, and Gigabyte Designare are available in Shopee. Corsair Dominator Platinum is also available but at a higher price.
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QUOTE(absolut_zero @ Jan 7 2021, 11:49 AM)
What 64GB (2x32GB) memory kit/s is/are recommended for Zen 3? Currently, Corsair Vengeance LPX, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, and Gigabyte Designare are available in Shopee. Corsair Dominator Platinum is also available but at a higher price.
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You are sailing dark waters. Very few people uses 64GB. Check QVL of the motherboard and get the fastest speed and lowest CAS latency.

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post Jan 7 2021, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(absolut_zero @ Jan 7 2021, 11:49 AM)
What 64GB (2x32GB) memory kit/s is/are recommended for Zen 3? Currently, Corsair Vengeance LPX, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, and Gigabyte Designare are available in Shopee. Corsair Dominator Platinum is also available but at a higher price.
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follow what Tristan said.

Technically the situation for DIMM's with 16Gbit IC's (which wiill be on 32GB DIMM's) is pretty easy.

There is
1) Hynix CMR
2) Micron Rev.B
3) Samsung A-Die
4) (SpecTek which is relabeled Micron Rev. B)

All of them are having little issues reaching speeds until 3800 on Ryzen. After that Hynix and Micron ones separate themselves from the Samsung ones.

If you wanna run XMP. Proceed like TristanX proposed.

If you wanna OC you can save a lot money by buying 2400/2666MT/s rated sticks and overclocking them. In that case however you want to make sure to have the same IC's on both sticks you buy.

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post Jan 7 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Jan 7 2021, 03:07 PM)
follow what Tristan said.

Technically the situation for DIMM's with 16Gbit IC's (which wiill be on 32GB DIMM's) is pretty easy.

There is
1) Hynix CMR
2) Micron Rev.B
3) Samsung A-Die
4) (SpecTek which is relabeled Micron Rev. B)

All of them are having little issues reaching speeds until 3800 on Ryzen. After that Hynix and Micron ones separate themselves from the Samsung ones.

If you wanna run XMP. Proceed like TristanX proposed.

If you wanna OC you can save a lot money by buying 2400/2666MT/s rated sticks and overclocking them. In that case however you want to make sure to have the same IC's on both sticks you buy.
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personally using micron rev B sticks. it doesnt like to go on low latencies but speed wise it can go quite high.. like 4000Mhz high.
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post Jan 7 2021, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 7 2021, 04:18 PM)
personally using micron rev B sticks. it doesnt like to go on low latencies but speed wise it can go quite high.. like 4000Mhz high.
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Yup, cmr will behave similarly. Thanks for confirming.

DR 16Gbit (in 2x32GB or especially 4x32GB config) with CMR and Rev. B will hit the limit of the FCLK and even IMC first afaik.
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post Jan 7 2021, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Jan 7 2021, 04:24 PM)
Yup, cmr will behave similarly. Thanks for confirming.

DR 16Gbit (in 2x32GB or especially 4x32GB config) with CMR and Rev. B will hit the limit of the FCLK and even IMC first afaik.
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Another interesting thing to point out is the micronB also tend to prefer lower voltage which is why could not really crank the latencies. Im running my sticks at 3600 CL16 on 1.35v. Temps also low because of that

Cant find much user feedbacks on these IC. Got them by chance when buying a lowcost 2x16GB dimm expecting dual rank but it turns out to be single rank with the micronB. got it at RM300 for 32GB so cant complain.
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post Jan 7 2021, 06:55 PM

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Hi guys , i recently upgrade to 5600x from 2600 , just wonder if i ever need to upgrade my ram too, currently runnin g.skill trident z 3200mhz cl16 at xmp
mainly focus gaming on 1440p with 3080 , so i guess the margin of fps increase is less than 10%?(10-15fps) if upgrade to 3600 cl14 confused.gif
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post Jan 7 2021, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Lagoo00 @ Jan 7 2021, 06:55 PM)
Hi guys , i recently upgrade to 5600x from 2600 , just wonder if i ever need to upgrade my ram too, currently runnin g.skill trident z 3200mhz cl16 at xmp
mainly focus gaming on 1440p with 3080 , so i guess the margin of fps increase is less than 10%?(10-15fps) if upgrade to 3600 cl14  :confused:
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just try to overclock and see can reach that speed or not. Dont need to upgrade.
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post Jan 7 2021, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 7 2021, 07:49 PM)
just try to overclock and see can reach that speed or not. Dont need to upgrade.
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try once , and gotta reset cmos to startup again then gave up lol , sound too complicated to me
also dunno y , thaipoon burner cant show what die my ram is


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post Jan 7 2021, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Lagoo00 @ Jan 7 2021, 08:09 PM)
try once , and gotta reset cmos to startup again then gave up lol , sound too complicated to me 
also dunno y , thaipoon burner cant show what die my ram is
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they should be B-dies. reset cmos when OC settings gone bad is normal. Depending on your mobo, difficulty of setting the overclocking values varies as well. You can start by following dram calculator, when you get the hang of it then you can calculate your own. Maybe more experienced sifu here can help you.

I only made my super cheap 3200mhz cl16 to run at 3600cl16 and didnt really tried to overclock the max out of it.
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post Jan 7 2021, 11:44 PM

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Should just stay between 3600-3800mhz CL16 with tuned sub timings for Zen 3 anyways, don't need to go higher. Eventhough I'm doing 4000mhz, it wasn't easy getting here and the difference is quite small. If you're just gaming, you won't even notice it.

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