QUOTE(MHR @ Apr 13 2017, 08:00 AM)
If you plan to overclock just get the one without X which is 1600. Or you can straight go to 1700
AMD Ryzen, AM4 / AM5 Platform
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Apr 13 2017, 11:20 AM
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Apr 13 2017, 11:44 AM
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B350 board , comparing
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK GIGABYTE GA AB350-GAMING 3 Which one would you all recommend and why ? The price difference is not much though , just having hard time to pick one lol .. |
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Apr 13 2017, 12:03 PM
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Apr 13 2017, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(nkl5499 @ Apr 13 2017, 09:44 AM) Seem no reason to buy 1600X unless u are "non-overclocker". BTW 1600X guarantee 4.0 which 1600 need silicon lottery but mostly can oc to 3.7ghz at least. I won't say guarantee.4.0Ghz is the turbo speed. I got mine to 4.0Ghz and pass the common benchmarks with 1.45vcore though, that's quite hot. |
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Apr 13 2017, 01:19 PM
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Apr 13 2017, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(nkl5499 @ Apr 13 2017, 01:19 PM) do you meant 1600X is not gurantee 4.0ghz by default? >.< Noooooo, I use so many I also don't want to guarantee anything.Ryzen is not OCing hero, in fact it's just quite LOL case at it. Refer http://www.ocdrift.com/amd-ryzen-binned-pr...ilicon-lottery/ QUOTE Ryzen 7 1700 93% reach 3.8 GHz @ 1.376V 70% reach 3.9 GHz @ 1.408V 23% reach 4.0 GHz @ 1.440V Ryzen 7 1700X 100% reach 3.8 GHz @ 1.360V 77% reach 3.9 GHz @ 1.392V 33% reach 4.0 GHz @ 1.424V Ryzen 7 1800X 97% reach 3.9 GHz @ 1.376V 67% reach 4.0 GHz @ 1.408V 20% reach 4.1 GHz @ 1.440V My finding is as such, my 1800X can't touch 4.1Ghz. 4.0Ghz stable also need a lot of effort to tune. For 1600X and 1500X, I manage to run them at 4.0Ghz with 1.45vcore but for others, I also don't guarantee same outcome. |
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Apr 13 2017, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 13 2017, 01:26 PM) Noooooo, I use so many I also don't want to guarantee anything. So does putting 3200mhz ram over cheaper 2400mhz makes more difference than trying to clock the cpu at 4.0ghz over 3.8ghz ?? So far nobody has done this experiment. You improve the infinity fabric speed over just pushing the core clock .Ryzen is not OCing hero, in fact it's just quite LOL case at it. Refer http://www.ocdrift.com/amd-ryzen-binned-pr...ilicon-lottery/ My finding is as such, my 1800X can't touch 4.1Ghz. 4.0Ghz stable also need a lot of effort to tune. For 1600X and 1500X, I manage to run them at 4.0Ghz with 1.45vcore but for others, I also don't guarantee same outcome. |
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Apr 13 2017, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Apr 13 2017, 03:24 PM) So does putting 3200mhz ram over cheaper 2400mhz makes more difference than trying to clock the cpu at 4.0ghz over 3.8ghz ?? So far nobody has done this experiment. You improve the infinity fabric speed over just pushing the core clock . Ehhh, what do you mean no one done this experiment? |
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Apr 13 2017, 06:37 PM
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Apr 13 2017, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 13 2017, 03:57 PM) I wish to see whether worth the fuss of pushing your 3.7Ghz Ryzen 7 to 4ghz at all cost or putting a higher speed RAM makes more difference.I know a quite a few people who hit a wall with just 3.9 Ghz with a R7 1700 because already pumping >1.4v to it. So question now is, is it worth going even higher voltage than 1.4V or just buy a higher speed memory to improve fps. I believe minimum fps is also important so I would suggest getting the minimum fps in the graphs as well.This post has been edited by k!nex: Apr 13 2017, 07:43 PM |
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Apr 13 2017, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Apr 13 2017, 07:39 PM) I wish to see whether worth the fuss of pushing your 3.7Ghz Ryzen 7 to 4ghz at all cost or putting a higher speed RAM makes more difference.I know a quite a few people who hit a wall with just 3.9 Ghz with a R7 1700 because already pumping >1.4v to it. So question now is, is it worth going even higher voltage than 1.4V or just buy a higher speed memory to improve fps. I believe minimum fps is also important so I would suggest getting the minimum fps in the graphs as well. Go with 3.8Ghz or would be enough. No need to die die 4Ghz. RAM also, not beneficial for most purpose. Sure, fine with having faster speed RAM if you have the funds but like what I reported, only beneficial if you're doing work that benefits it. 1700 is 3.0Ghz, can reach 3.7Ghz would be like 1800X with XFR in action and that's plenty fast already. |
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Apr 14 2017, 01:40 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 13 2017, 01:26 PM) Noooooo, I use so many I also don't want to guarantee anything. Hey Goldfries do you have any R5 1600s in your hands now? I am wondering how high can it oc to with stock cooler.... Also, do you think 3.8 GHz is doable on a cheapest B350 MOBO?Ryzen is not OCing hero, in fact it's just quite LOL case at it. Refer http://www.ocdrift.com/amd-ryzen-binned-pr...ilicon-lottery/ My finding is as such, my 1800X can't touch 4.1Ghz. 4.0Ghz stable also need a lot of effort to tune. For 1600X and 1500X, I manage to run them at 4.0Ghz with 1.45vcore but for others, I also don't guarantee same outcome. |
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Apr 14 2017, 01:42 AM
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I only have 1600X. No 1600.
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Apr 16 2017, 05:45 PM
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See how the Ryzen 5 1500X, 1600X, 1700 and 1800X compare to the Core i7-7700K. |
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Apr 17 2017, 09:28 AM
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Are a320 mobos available yet ? Not worth to get the a350 since I don't oc
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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Apr 17 2017, 09:28 AM) From Jayacom pricelist, they listed a MSI A320 Gaming Pro for RM 360 but...https://www.lowyat.net/2017/129400/asus-mal...4-motherboards/ Asus apparently bringing in their A320Prime K for RM 303 but not sure available My post; Hey would like to know between the 1400 and 1500x, how much of a difference can I get with the top up 80 Ringgit and if I want to get a basic b350 board, which one is good, budget for mobo 450 max not more than that I was looking at 350 gaming pro but newegg comment say it is bad and buggy bios, or the asus 350m but same thing on newegg except it is worse with DOA Also found the Gigabyte AB350 DS2 but I can't find reviews on it and whether it can OC at all cause it is AB not pure B Also, anyone know how to get the CPU compatibility bracket, I have a CM Hyper212 X but it says I need to get an AM4 bracket, do I go to the store and ask from them as I bought it from them? This post has been edited by Moongrave: Apr 17 2017, 11:21 AM |
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QUOTE(Moongrave @ Apr 17 2017, 10:59 AM) From Jayacom pricelist, they listed a MSI A320 Gaming Pro for RM 360 but... The more expensive u pay, the bigger chance of better oc silicon lottery u will get. I just read some info, seems many ppl who get 1400 even cant oc more than 3.7ghz. https://www.lowyat.net/2017/129400/asus-mal...4-motherboards/ Asus apparently bringing in their A320Prime K for RM 303 but not sure available My post; Hey would like to know between the 1400 and 1500x, how much of a difference can I get with the top up 80 Ringgit and if I want to get a basic b350 board, which one is good, budget for mobo 450 max not more than that I was looking at 350 gaming pro but newegg comment say it is bad and buggy bios, or the asus 350m but same thing on newegg except it is worse with DOA Also found the Gigabyte AB350 DS2 but I can't find reviews on it and whether it can OC at all cause it is AB not pure B Also, anyone know how to get the CPU compatibility bracket, I have a CM Hyper212 X but it says I need to get an AM4 bracket, do I go to the store and ask from them as I bought it from them? I think u may consider better cpu if u cant afford more a bit price, otherwise please take risk of maybe cant OC higher, somemore 1500X get you larger L3 cache. Why not consider Asrock mobo, its quality not bad, and also good bios update? You may try stock fan for OC 1st, cause u wont know how much u can OC till. Maybe decide to get a new bracket after that? |
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Is this one ok ?
Ryzen 5 1500X + Gigabyte AB350M-DS2 ? What's the fastest RAM can support ? Planned to pair with RX 480 (or RX 580 when it comes out). Target to complete build by September. |
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Apr 17 2017, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Apr 17 2017, 04:57 PM) Is this one ok ? Check mobo lates memory QVL at official site to confirm, cause every mobo bios will result different of support memory. Same 3000mhz memory would come in different result.Ryzen 5 1500X + Gigabyte AB350M-DS2 ? What's the fastest RAM can support ? Planned to pair with RX 480 (or RX 580 when it comes out). Target to complete build by September. B350 mobo is ok for daily OC usage, if need 24/7, better go to X370. For B350 chipset, MSI/ASUS/ASROCK > Gigabyte under VRM quality. |
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Apr 17 2017, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 17 2017, 05:22 PM) Check mobo lates memory QVL at official site to confirm, cause every mobo bios will result different of support memory. Same 3000mhz memory would come in different result. The mobo listed up to 3200 ram but subject to CPU. I think I read somewhere that 1500X may have issues with more than 3000 ram?B350 mobo is ok for daily OC usage, if need 24/7, better go to X370. For B350 chipset, MSI/ASUS/ASROCK > Gigabyte under VRM quality. I list the mobo aincw it's the cheapest I can find. |
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