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Kanuki
post Apr 7 2017, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 7 2017, 11:41 AM)
as usual, local distributors and their profit bye.gif
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ASUS price different is only around RM90 but you will get extra one year warranty
if you register the product online (not sure about this campaign still valid now or not).
It's kinda fair.

ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming
Malaysia price = RM1279.00
Thailand Price = 8,990.00 Bath / 7.8 = RM1153.00

Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5
Malaysia price = RM964.60
Thailand Price = 6,590 Bath / 7.8 = RM845.00
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post Apr 7 2017, 02:06 PM

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how is that rig ? I read all comments and i think no need to pay extra money to Mobo in that case ? biggrin.gif thx a lot everyone ! (still codulnt find any am4 cooler)

MSI MOTHERBOARD AMD AM4 X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM
AMD Processor AM4 RYZEN 7 Series 1800X 4.0GHz WITHOUT CPU COOLER
G.SKILL RAM Desktop DDR4 TRIDENTZ 2X 8GB PC3200 F4-3200C16D-8GTZB (X2)
GIGABYTE VGA GF GTX 1070 WF2 OC 8GB DDR5 (GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD)
CORSAIR Power Supply CX Series CX750M 750W (CP-9020061-UK)
WESTERN DIGITAL HDD INT Desktop BLACK 3TB SATA3 64MB WD3003FZEX
WESTERN DIGITAL SSD M.2-2280 SATA3 BLUE 500GB (WDS500G1B0B)
CM Storm Stryker - White Full Tower Gaming Computer Case
Kanuki
post Apr 7 2017, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 02:06 PM)
how is that rig ? I read all comments and i think no need to pay extra money to Mobo in that case ? biggrin.gif thx a lot everyone ! (still codulnt find any am4 cooler)

  MSI MOTHERBOARD AMD AM4 X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM
  AMD Processor AM4 RYZEN 7 Series 1800X 4.0GHz WITHOUT CPU COOLER
  G.SKILL RAM Desktop DDR4 TRIDENTZ 2X 8GB PC3200 F4-3200C16D-8GTZB  (X2)
  GIGABYTE VGA GF GTX 1070 WF2 OC 8GB DDR5 (GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD)
  CORSAIR Power Supply CX Series CX750M 750W (CP-9020061-UK)
  WESTERN DIGITAL HDD INT Desktop BLACK 3TB SATA3 64MB WD3003FZEX
  WESTERN DIGITAL SSD M.2-2280 SATA3 BLUE 500GB (WDS500G1B0B)
  CM Storm Stryker - White Full Tower Gaming Computer Case
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Maybe you will need to use the cable tie for the cooler first
or maybe you can go for ASUS Crosshair VI Hero that has
AM3 mounting holes.

bpc
post Apr 7 2017, 02:13 PM

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you mean later on i can grab any Am4 cooler right when it is avaliable ? actually i was thinking water cooler but maybe i can wait a bit more time.
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post Apr 7 2017, 02:28 PM

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If i were to cut cost on AM4 Board,
they told me the only major different between X370 and B350 is that X370 got more PCI-E Slots.

How about overclocking parts? Will i lost a lot on B350?
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post Apr 7 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 02:13 PM)
you mean later on i can grab any Am4 cooler right when it is avaliable ? actually i was thinking water cooler but maybe i can wait a bit more time.
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I don't quite understand what you mean exactly.

What I meant is acutally you can just buy most of the water cooler right now because of
most of the high end water cooler brand already promised to give the retention kit for free once
they're ready. You may need to use to use the cable tie to tie the water block to the motherboard first.

Please consult with the seller first before you buy it.



QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Apr 7 2017, 02:28 PM)
If i were to cut cost on AM4 Board,
they told me the only major different between X370 and B350 is that X370 got more PCI-E Slots.

How about overclocking parts? Will i lost a lot on B350?
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I was thinking exactly the same because most of the x370 board has the unnecessary features
that I don't need but I still ended up bought the high end x370 board just because it look nicest
and has AM3 mounting holes. hahaha... tongue.gif biggrin.gif

About the overclocking part is mostly on your luck.... It's what we called 'Silicon Lottery'.
If you get the good chip then you can even overclock to 4.1-4.2GHz easily and low vcore voltage too
but if you get the bad chip then you can't even get it to 3.9GHz even with high vcore voltage.

P.S. Seem like 1700 giving the best odd at the moment.

This post has been edited by Kanuki: Apr 7 2017, 02:50 PM
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post Apr 7 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 02:06 PM)
how is that rig ? I read all comments and i think no need to pay extra money to Mobo in that case ? biggrin.gif thx a lot everyone ! (still codulnt find any am4 cooler)

  MSI MOTHERBOARD AMD AM4 X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM
  AMD Processor AM4 RYZEN 7 Series 1800X 4.0GHz WITHOUT CPU COOLER
  G.SKILL RAM Desktop DDR4 TRIDENTZ 2X 8GB PC3200 F4-3200C16D-8GTZB  (X2)
  GIGABYTE VGA GF GTX 1070 WF2 OC 8GB DDR5 (GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD)
  CORSAIR Power Supply CX Series CX750M 750W (CP-9020061-UK)
  WESTERN DIGITAL HDD INT Desktop BLACK 3TB SATA3 64MB WD3003FZEX
  WESTERN DIGITAL SSD M.2-2280 SATA3 BLUE 500GB (WDS500G1B0B)
  CM Storm Stryker - White Full Tower Gaming Computer Case
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COOLER MASTER / BEQUIET / CORSAIR / THERMALTAKE got the cooler ah..

MSI got their Frozr cooler for AM4 too biggrin.gif
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post Apr 7 2017, 03:02 PM

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@Kanuki got it man thx biggrin.gif

@terrorist, yea man just now found, i didin't know frozr
https://www.lelong.com.my/msi-core-frozr-l-...7-01-Sale-I.htm

btw i found liquid cooler aswell https://www.lelong.com.my/corsair-hydro-ser...8-04-Sale-P.htm

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post Apr 7 2017, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 03:02 PM)
@Kanuki got it man thx biggrin.gif

@terrorist, yea man just now found, i didin't know frozr
https://www.lelong.com.my/msi-core-frozr-l-...7-01-Sale-I.htm

btw i found liquid cooler aswell https://www.lelong.com.my/corsair-hydro-ser...8-04-Sale-P.htm
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If you plan to overclock, might as well just get the 1700. Much cheaper and overclocks about the same.
At least with 1700 you can still overclock it to 3.7ghz with stock cooler while waiting for aftermarket cooler to be come available.
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post Apr 7 2017, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 7 2017, 05:38 PM)
If you plan to overclock, might as well just get the 1700. Much cheaper and overclocks about the same.
At least with 1700 you can still overclock it to 3.7ghz with stock cooler while waiting for aftermarket cooler to be come available.
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yea man just now i was thinking to switch to 1700x. I am not planning much overclock actually, even i am not a gamer, mainly photo/video editing biggrin.gif and maybe some games.
if i go for 1700 i think it will be much more cheaper.
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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 05:41 PM)
yea man just now i was thinking to switch to 1700x. I am not planning much overclock actually, even i am not a gamer, mainly photo/video editing biggrin.gif and maybe some games.
if i go for 1700 i think it will be much more cheaper.
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If you can save,better save.
Get 1700 enough since you gonna overclock. Motherboard maybe you can get other model. That MSI is too expensive.

Boards are not that much different(for x370 models) in terms of overclock because Ryzen overclock is limited by the process not motherboard unless you require that particular motherboard model features. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(bpc @ Apr 7 2017, 05:41 PM)
yea man just now i was thinking to switch to 1700x. I am not planning much overclock actually, even i am not a gamer, mainly photo/video editing biggrin.gif and maybe some games.
if i go for 1700 i think it will be much more cheaper.
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you can overclock just fine with a B350 mobo.
the asus b350 prime seems to be quite decent
msi b350 tomahawk also not bad

the only major reason you'd want an x370 is you want to do 'extreme overclocking' because they generally provide higher spec power phase design, and SLI support.
4GHz OC with below 1.45Vcore should be fine on most current B350 mobos.
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post Apr 9 2017, 04:51 PM

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does anyone have this (or know where to get this)?
http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit
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post Apr 10 2017, 03:22 PM

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Couldn't find one for R5 1500X. No benchmark on Total War though. sad.gif
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post Apr 10 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(grimreaper05 @ Apr 9 2017, 04:51 PM)
does anyone have this (or know where to get this)?
http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit
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Just need to fill this form and wait.

http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit-order-form

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post Apr 10 2017, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Apr 10 2017, 03:22 PM)


Couldn't find one for R5 1500X. No benchmark on Total War though.  sad.gif
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I think most Ryzen stuck at 4.0ghz for OC, it wont much different since 1400 already OCed to 3.8ghz just the gap would be closer.
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QUOTE(nkl5499 @ Apr 10 2017, 08:52 PM)
I think most Ryzen stuck at 4.0ghz for OC, it wont much different since 1400 already OCed to 3.8ghz just the gap would be closer.
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Too bad. Since I primarily only plays Total War, I think I should stick with i5. Only another video I saw, ryzen 7 even got beated by i5s for Total War.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 8 2017, 11:17 PM)
4GHz OC with below 1.45Vcore should be fine on most current B350 mobos.
You need about 1.45vcore to touch 4Ghz. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(grimreaper05 @ Apr 9 2017, 04:51 PM)
does anyone have this (or know where to get this)?
http://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit
Not that i know of. I have it, but mine's directly from Noctua.


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