Actually la, AMD processors has been good. The FX for example was nice, like FX-8320 and 8350.

They released the FX-8320E but it was a little late. And they've been stuck with old processor technology for years now.

Ryzen should be interesting.

er, AMD heating issue is for real if you're using the FX-9370 and FX-9590.

They used to but not for the past 2 - 3 years though.

Looking forward for them making a come back.

FX-8320 / FX-8350 were good, FX-8320E was awesome but came late.

FX-9590 / FX-9370 sucks so bad I hentam them kau kau.

APU - mixed feelings, overall good stuff packed with technology but raw processing power not as good as the Intel Core i3, very hard to recommend in the end.

From what I heard so far, Ryzen 7 is set to arrive first. Ryzen 5 and 3 later on.

1. I have no details on when reviewers get their samples.
2. No details on launch date yet.

However, do leave all your questions here la. At least I know what to prepare for my Ryzen video.

*No, I don't have it yet but the products are bound to be released and I'll get a copy sooner or later.*

Also, the first AMD Ryzen rig powered up last night.

https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...25814997445010/

Ryzen 7 1800X is awesome!

I found out that the board reads the CPU temp different from software.

They're very far apart. So yeah, now I'm checking with AMD on what's the temperature thing like.

Until then, I can't say which one is correct. It could be the MSI BIOS reading wrongly.

The flaw or your thought is you're trying to apply the "Intel" side of the camp logic to AMD. You can't expect them to emulate Intel exactly, that would defeat the entire purpose of AMD's purpose.

The ZEN range CPU are fresh start build from scratch, providing awesome price to performance ratio and those board are already the flagship models.

I'll cite you from my personal setup.

I have an Intel Core i7-5960X with ASRock X99 OC Formula and that i7-5960X had to be OCed from 3Ghz to 4.3Ghz just to have a slight edge over the 1800X based on the numbers you see on slides / videos.

At this point of time, that i7 is priced $1,134.99 on Newegg. Around RM 5k if Malaysia price.
Compare that to the $499 Ryzen 7 1800X which is around RM 2.6k Malaysia price, HALF.

You can go with the cheaper boards (half the price of the top models) and still get same performance, minus the XFR boost.

And you also have to think - what's those high-end board on the Intel side for? Mainly for Overclocking.

Ryzen is not about Overclocking, it's about performance out of the box. It can be overclocked but it's not a great overclocker.

Haiyoh you think whole world is about gamers meh?

I spent whole day with AMD and games is just one tiny portion of presentation.

Games benchmarks I have also, but details cannot share to you guys just yet.

What I can tell you is that even when AMD presented the details on games, they didn't say AMD beat Intel or what. They just say both perform equally well.

Refer to my video below, jump to around 14:30 mark.



They talk about games but not much, you must understand that AMD's ZEN series products here is built for the future.

For current games, I don't think you'll see any difference and from my experience assuming the IPC is now on par with Intel products, then the Ryzen will be a little behind the Core series for gaming. Not much, just slightly behind.

However as overall performaner (games and productivity) the Ryzen has the edge, what it is now is that the Ryzen opens more avenue for developers to make content that is able to utilize even more cores for better experience.

In a nutshell : Ryzen - Future.

My goodness, you need to broaden your perspective on technology.

Here are some points you need to understand ..............

1. It is a CPU that's made to be able to handle stuff that's available today, and further down the road. That's what 'FUTURE' means. It enables developers to go further. What for make something to match Intel, right? Make something better.

2. Gamers are just 1 of the many target market. There's the VR industry, there's the data center industry, there's the work / rendering / computation industry. If you still don't get it, let me illustrate to you.

My Core i7-5960X Extreme Edition CPU with X99 board comes to around RM 5000 - 6000 range. My Ryzen 7 1800X with X370 board comes to only around RM 4000 but performance wise the R7 1800X out of the box out performs the 5960X by so much, the 5960X had to be OCed from 3Ghz to 4.3Ghz just to barely beat that 1800X ............ .STOCK.

Here's my video again, listen to the first 5 minutes. The key word is "high performance computing".



3. What many people don't know is how Ryzen is a totally brand new design, even to the extent that future CPU can continue using the same socket.

Please do not assume 'enthusiasts' = gamer. Enthusiasts can be in many forms.

4. i3 can beat 8 core CPU from AMD ......... .yes but what extent? Gaming yes it can but work, not so.

Eh you see the average FPS - it's just 4 frames apart, practically negligible difference.

Considering that the 1700 is 3.0Ghz vs that 4.2Ghz 7700K.

And what's worse is that you're already disappointed looking at that single benchmark?

There's really nothing disappointing about it actually.

Many people misinterpreted the chart, as in misinterpreted it badly. The MAX and MIN are there but that doesn't mean it's sustained. You look at the average, that's the most important.

Point to ponder : Why is it that the article said that the 5Ghz 7700K widens the gap but average result is lower than 7700K on stock?

Ehhh, got pic liao mah https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...?type=3&theater

AMD gave us 3000Mhz RAM.

I'm running at 2666.

War? Which group ah? Probably those nonsense group, know nothing but talk a lot and speculate based on info here info there only.

I'm not in those type of groups. Waste time.

Technology is here for people to embrace and appreciate, not for people to debate who is better.

If one likes to debate so much, go choose a BPL club to support. Have plenty of opportunity to debate.

Depends on how far the OC is, like say the amount voltage boost. And whether or not people mind the fan noise when RPM is high.

eh what PSU problem?

How old a PSU do you need?

3 -4 year old enough? Like CM V700?

I don't have problem with Haswell either.

Ehh, I have M12II. Does that count?

Yes.

Windows 7 can work but AMD will not be providing any fix aka support if it doesn't work.

But seriously, since when does processor require drivers la?

If anything needs driver, that'll be the motherboard's component like LAN port and audio system, and USB ports.