New BIOS is on the way, not so soon though.
Anyway, RAM speed is not the important part to gain FPS.

Multithreading in some tasks run slower than single thread due to task coordination and dispatch overhead. 7700 is still better in gaming, however, if other heavy things in background kick up, then more cores will run better as the queue for dispatch is lesser, tasks fed into the core faster

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/61ccp...hw9&sh=5fb8f74b
it is getting interesting

The CCX (Bus that connects different core modules together) runs at half of the RAM speed, that could explain why faster RAM would give higher performance

Wait for the one with Zen. Bristol Ridge is still on Excavator 2.0 architecture. The poor single threaded performance will hold the iGPU performance back.

It is a pretty common case. More like motherboard issue, as manufacturers have been giving beta BIOS. Expect better BIOS is coming.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/a...te-1155146.html
Mobo VRM count

Don't think you will get a X570 board at that price. Just get X470, B550 only comes next year.

The PBO already do the job for you.

Looks like there is no decent X570 M-ATX board, probably will get B450M Mortar (Titanium if possible) + 3700X and start spawning multiple VMs concurrently.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jul 7 2019, 09:51 PM

Yes, piece of cake to take over 9400. The 9400F is still tempting though.

Yup, think of pairing it with my white casing.

Shopee

Not going for 3950X?

By right many boards can support the first PCI-E and M.2 to run at PCI-E 4.0, but the choice is up to manufacturer to implement it in BIOS. And there is no guarantee that it can support future device that runs at higher bandwidth. This is the catch.



Just ordered 3700X + MSI B450M Mortar & 3200G + MSI A320M Pro-VH+

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jul 10 2019, 06:44 PM

That makes use of the BIOS flashback feature (flashing bios with bare board).
The voltage is probably due to PBO.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9..._3rd_gen_ryzen/
This worth a read too.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jul 12 2019, 07:21 AM

Nothing much except the power throttling (the motherboard doesn't have enough capability to deliver the power to processor, so it stops telling the processor to continue clocking up.). If you don't plan to overclock (pretty much pointless on Ryzen 3000 as the factory clock already close to the limit), a top B450 / cheap X470 board will work just fine even with 3950X.

Nope for the bottom 2 statements.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jul 15 2019, 03:05 PM

Done upgrading to 3700X. Did a clean Windows installation and randomly run into system_thread_exception_not_handled BSOD from hal.dll. Need more debugging now.

Anyway, the initial impression is it is fast, really fast.

Yeah, probably. Less likely is due to RAM since I've been using the sticks on Xeon for 1 month without issue.
And also.. there is chance that running 3200MHz ram speed will cause the mobo to stuck at self health check. MSI tester acknowledged that and will be fixed in next BIOS release by reducing the start speed to 2400/2666MHz.

It is 4+1.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jul 16 2019, 09:45 AM

Mine directly with OC fail , need to clear CMOS (as the error happens prior to where BIOS can handle).

Did clean installation (again!) + disable PBO + AMD chipset driver from MSI website, works fine so far with 3200MHz RAM.

Since July 8