Its sure cheaper since amd ready ryzen 5 for against i5 @@

msi coz heatsink for VRM? XD Both not really different much

The more expensive u pay, the bigger chance of better oc silicon lottery u will get. I just read some info, seems many ppl who get 1400 even cant oc more than 3.7ghz.
I think u may consider better cpu if u cant afford more a bit price, otherwise please take risk of maybe cant OC higher, somemore 1500X get you larger L3 cache.

Why not consider Asrock mobo, its quality not bad, and also good bios update?

You may try stock fan for OC 1st, cause u wont know how much u can OC till. Maybe decide to get a new bracket after that?

Check mobo lates memory QVL at official site to confirm, cause every mobo bios will result different of support memory. Same 3000mhz memory would come in different result.

B350 mobo is ok for daily OC usage, if need 24/7, better go to X370.
For B350 chipset, MSI/ASUS/ASROCK > Gigabyte under VRM quality.

Its can support 3200mhz ram, but not every 3200Mhz ram can run in full speed, depends on the mobo and bios update.

Example, asrock taichi can support only gskill ram to 3200 currently, but if u use corsair 3200, ur speed may not get at the performance its should be.

Gskill QVL


Corsair QVL


And as you stated, ryzen 5 and 7 had different on memory compatibility.

Better survey more for choose right ram for right mobo =w= Anyway, u still have time cause ryzen will get better and better its memory compatibility.

But due to rumor, DDR4 should get more expensive as time ongoing, cause most of DDR4 produced by samsung etc, but seems they get failed a lot stock before, plus current smartphone commonly using ddr4, tats why these year's dd4 increase like hell.

Yup, u can go with B350 as well, cause ryzen not hungry power cpu XD

Just X370 commonly got better VRM, better for full load 24/7, similar as the quality of PSU effect those lifespan and stability.

Anyway, there's only few ppl need full load 24/7 or someone who OSD needed.

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 17 2017, 08:26 PM

OSD ppl and ppl who dun care lifespan and elec bill XD

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/65v7f...50_motherboard/
The answer u need @@

Test at 720p to compare a cpu ipc performance at gaming, coz not everyone can accept ryzen cincai, they want the best gaming CPU without lost any 1% performance, just OSDer. =w=

Truth that ryzen IPC is lose to i7 7700k, even a i7 6900k which can OC 4.3 and above. Tats why ryzen also slower in Photoshop =w=

Vega should ok cause they done demo with ryzen before.

Ringgit Jatuh, economy rosot, everything even expensive after sudah convert...
Used to working in new zealand before, thought gov need money for better enviroment and economy, tats why NZ pc parts its about 30-35% expensive than US amazon price.
Currently, malaysia pc parts almost 15~25% than amazon price, but hard afford than NZ resident.

Amazon usd 530 gtx 1080 (approx RM 2330), but u get same card in malaysia with RM3099. FTW~~~

We dont worry, if Vega price at USD500 in US, we will need to pay bout USD650 www


People need to =w=

More details:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/65w9r...2017_or_how_to/

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GTX1080TI SLI on 7700k and ryzen @ 4k gaming






p/s: urgh only usd 230-250 @ rx 580 compared with malaysia RM1600++ =.=|||

Is it because of bottleneck or because optimization, still cannot confirm yet. Since there here lot of small buggy around @@
I think just give time to see whats going on ~ Can conclusion after time given.
I means wait for Vega which an really perform against gtx1080, CF vega will get us see how's ryzen can done in 4k gaming.

Anyway, i dont really care all game run 4k 60fps XD coz i cant afford 2 gtx1080ti at the moment of performance/dollar XD

My opinion, ryzen make a right point currently, for targetting most of ppl can run faster cpu power demand job even its not the fastest.
If as bulldozer, thats called failure, coz make the wrong point.

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Apr 20 2017, 02:02 AM

Becoz of lame economy, ,ppl who gaming will more go to console for cheaper option and save up space, especially ps4 @@ Playstation price is not much different with US price, better ass than overprice low end pc.

Ryzen hit right point for end user onli, coz its unnecessarily ryzen for decent gaming, even i7 7700k is better for high end gc rig, commonly pentium will done job right.