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arsenwagon
post Jun 20 2009, 05:01 PM

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i think its called psychic surgery in phillipines.
i remember there's one famous actor named andy kaufman ( i wouldnt know, he's not famous in the 1990's and 2000's lol) who underwent psychic surgery in phillipines ...
and he died not long after that.
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post Jun 21 2009, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 20 2009, 05:57 AM)
I dont know weather I'm a "slowpoke" or not but this fake and misleading "Professor Dato' Dr Raden" has to be exposed fast.

His background information

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The following videos are made by one who claims to be able to "miraculous surgery by divine intervention from God":


His method of "diagnosing" disease:




- if that is the diagnosis method he learned in the Indonesian university.... god help our medical students there..

His "surgeries":




- things to ponder while watching these videos: anatomy, anesthesia, aseptic technique, respiratory support, sterile condition, surgical equipments, etc~


His "surgeries" vol.2:




- No pain and not even a scar????
- How did he managed to take out a heart without even opening the thorax?? and how the hell did he maintain the blood circulation in the patient with the heart outside of her body?
- Notice how SMALL the heart is ??

This guy hides behind religion and claims to be able to perform miracles..
I Quote from one of his fanatic supporter's blog:

"I received a comment from a Doctor Ahmad Farouk Musa, from the School of Health and Medical Sciences, Monash University lambasting me as one who has a Stone Age mentality for believing in modern day miracles and libeling me as wanting to drag you my readers back to the so called Dark Ages by sharing with you here about these amazing miracle healings being carried out by unconventional Islamic Spiritual Healings of Professor Dato Dr.Raden Johari Mansur of the Pusat Rawatan Keraton, based at Sentul Raya Boulevard, Kuala Lumpur!" - Mahaguru58


"He (the "Prof") says that the charges for operations at the Pusat Rawatan Keraton is RM3000+ for above navel areas of the body and RM2000+ for areas below it."



Source: http://mahaguru58.blogspot.com/2008/06/pus...ton-defies.html
He disgusts me and he is an insult to modern medical science~!

To ALL DOCTORS in MALAYSIA - GO REPORT HIM TO MMC AND THE POLICE~!! Get this SwiNDLER OUT oF MaLAYSIA~!!
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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 20 2009, 10:35 AM)
If CyberSetan or anyone else wishes to start contacting some people to bring this matter up:

Minister for Health:  Liow Tiong Lai (through you might want to find someone who can write in Mandarin)

The MOH also has a complaints form, through they cynical side of me says it points to /dev/null

Unfortunately, we can't deal with the MMC, as they cannot "deal with concerns or complaints against anyone who is NOT a registered doctor".

MMA president: Dr David Quek Kwang Leng

Then there's everyone's favorite Uncle Lim, and probably the most famous political blogger, Jeff Ooi.
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Another one of his "surgery"



Who's jurisdiction is it for alternative medicine + scam medicine in Malaysia? This As*hole needs to get locked up..
cygoh9
post Jun 25 2009, 03:26 AM

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lets change a topic, lol, why is it so dead.
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:38 AM

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any lincoln college student here?? pm me pls...nid some help.
CyberSetan
post Jul 7 2009, 08:48 PM

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I have reported to the Ministry of Health regarding this matter using the given link, lets see weather they will respond or not.

http://www.moh.gov.my/eaduan/formAduan.jsp

by the way, I'm thankful to Palmdoc for highlighting this matter in his website:

http://medicine.com.my/wp/

Original thread of discussion: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1070318

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jul 7 2009, 08:48 PM
cygoh9
post Jul 12 2009, 12:03 AM

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any news yet? lol

and oh yea, when will the "doctor's market" in msia become oversaturated? year 2012?
onelove89
post Jul 27 2009, 09:52 PM

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I heard from my friends that there are 6 new schools of medicine opening? O.o thats alot.
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post Jul 28 2009, 11:53 PM

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i need some opinions here.i'm thinking of buying a pharmaco book. will be choosing btwn tripatti n lippincott. any ideas which is better?
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post Jul 28 2009, 11:55 PM

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i'm using lippin now, it's not bad i suppose, using harpers as cross reference.
CyberSetan
post Jul 29 2009, 04:50 AM

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QUOTE(brownydoggy @ Jul 28 2009, 11:53 PM)
i need some opinions here.i'm thinking of buying a pharmaco book. will be choosing btwn tripatti n lippincott. any ideas which is better?
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KD Tripati is an Indian-made pharmacology book, a standard book for Indian MBBS.

Choose KD Tripati if you want more hardcore pharmacology book (you can kill a dog using it too if you wish), otherwise Lippincot is just fine~
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post Jul 29 2009, 10:58 AM

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brownydoggy : are you a med student (phase I or II) or a pharm student?

personally i think phase I med student doesnt need a pharmaco book.

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Jul 29 2009, 10:58 AM
Jedi
post Jul 29 2009, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 20 2009, 05:57 AM)
I dont know weather I'm a "slowpoke" or not but this fake and misleading "Professor Dato' Dr Raden" has to be exposed fast.

His background information

user posted image
The following videos are made by one who claims to be able to "miraculous surgery by divine intervention from God":


His method of "diagnosing" disease:




- if that is the diagnosis method he learned in the Indonesian university.... god help our medical students there..

His "surgeries":




- things to ponder while watching these videos: anatomy, anesthesia, aseptic technique, respiratory support, sterile condition, surgical equipments, etc~


His "surgeries" vol.2:




- No pain and not even a scar????
- How did he managed to take out a heart without even opening the thorax?? and how the hell did he maintain the blood circulation in the patient with the heart outside of her body?
- Notice how SMALL the heart is ??

This guy hides behind religion and claims to be able to perform miracles..
I Quote from one of his fanatic supporter's blog:

"I received a comment from a Doctor Ahmad Farouk Musa, from the School of Health and Medical Sciences, Monash University lambasting me as one who has a Stone Age mentality for believing in modern day miracles and libeling me as wanting to drag you my readers back to the so called Dark Ages by sharing with you here about these amazing miracle healings being carried out by unconventional Islamic Spiritual Healings of Professor Dato Dr.Raden Johari Mansur of the Pusat Rawatan Keraton, based at Sentul Raya Boulevard, Kuala Lumpur!" - Mahaguru58


"He (the "Prof") says that the charges for operations at the Pusat Rawatan Keraton is RM3000+ for above navel areas of the body and RM2000+ for areas below it."



Source: http://mahaguru58.blogspot.com/2008/06/pus...ton-defies.html
He disgusts me and he is an insult to modern medical science~!

To ALL DOCTORS in MALAYSIA - GO REPORT HIM TO MMC AND THE POLICE~!! Get this SwiNDLER OUT oF MaLAYSIA~!!
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what type of nonsense is this? i saw all those surgeries, the techniques applied are wrong and not according to medical practices.. and the surgery lasts for less than 20 minutes "3 minutes to open n heal, 10 minutes to "sew using somesort of telekinesis" and "awaken" the patient" no scars after surgery and kudos to Allah the Almighty O_O He thinks he is some sort of new prophet? he and his religion..sleep.gif makes me hate the :extremists" more

This post has been edited by Jedi: Jul 29 2009, 01:04 PM
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post Aug 5 2009, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 29 2009, 12:56 PM)
what type of nonsense is this? i saw all those surgeries, the techniques applied are wrong and not according to medical practices.. and the surgery lasts for less than 20 minutes "3 minutes to open n heal, 10 minutes to "sew using somesort of telekinesis" and "awaken" the patient" no scars after surgery and kudos to Allah the Almighty O_O He thinks he is some sort of new prophet? he and his religion..sleep.gif makes me hate the :extremists" more
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I've sent several complaints online through the MOH website and I have YET to get ANY response from them...
THis is utterly disappointing....

Maybe they want me personally to come directly to their HQ?? ugh....
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post Aug 6 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Aug 5 2009, 11:30 AM)
I've sent several complaints online through the MOH website and I have YET to get ANY response from them...
THis is utterly disappointing....

Maybe they want me personally to come directly to their HQ?? ugh....
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Thats exactly what our MoH usually does isnt it? lol
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post Aug 6 2009, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(bsb85my @ Jul 7 2009, 03:38 AM)
any lincoln college student here?? pm me pls...nid some help.
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i used to be in lincoln..'Graduated' there last yr..would be glad if u require assistance
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post Aug 7 2009, 08:36 PM

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hi all, i just came from pharmacy. they had a book that had the list of all drugs in malaysia and their prices in some cases. can i find this list on internet? im looking for some medications and i want to know if they are available in malaysia or not.
thanks.
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QUOTE(CatDog @ Aug 7 2009, 08:36 PM)
hi all, i just came from pharmacy. they had a book that had the list of all drugs in malaysia and their prices in some cases. can i find this list on internet? im looking for some medications and i want to know if they are available in malaysia or not.
thanks.
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http://www.mimsonline.com/index.aspx

Select Malaysia... but you'll need a login password to gain access.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Aug 8 2009, 12:09 AM
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post Aug 8 2009, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 8 2009, 12:09 AM)
http://www.mimsonline.com/index.aspx

Select Malaysia... but you'll need a login password to gain access.
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that sure did help me! thanks a lot.

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post Aug 8 2009, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Aug 5 2009, 06:30 AM)
I've sent several complaints online through the MOH website and I have YET to get ANY response from them...
THis is utterly disappointing....

Maybe they want me personally to come directly to their HQ?? ugh....
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What can you expect? Been through similar situation with other agencies and same thing happened. Some will send an acknowledgment but at the end of the day, never give you follow up on your complaint. Either way, nothing gets done.

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post Aug 9 2009, 01:55 PM

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for those considering to work in spore, do take note that they are slowly changing their postgrad trainings from UK to US style. which means from the current HO-MO-Reg-Consultant to residency program.

Compared to UK system, residency program selects trainees among new graduates and the training duration will be shorter (eg 5 years in ortho than the previous 6 yrs).Trainees are not required to sit for any external exams, eg MRCP/MRCS.

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